Packers once again fail to get an upgrade at receiver

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In 2021, Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers nearly retired over disillusionment regarding the front office’s failure to accept his input regarding moves the team should make. Since then, they’ve begun to accept his input — even if they don’t really act on it.

Beyond bringing back receiver Randall Cobb, what have the Packers really done to upgrade the position? They sort-of tried to land Odell Beckham, Jr. in 2021, and they reportedly made an effort to get Chase Claypool on Tuesday.

Ultimately, the Packers missed out on Claypool because the Steelers believed the second-round pick from Chicago would be higher than the second-round pick from Green Bay.

Couldn’t the Packers have done a little more, if they really wanted him? Throw in another pick. Add a conditional selection, based on his performance or wins or whatever. Tack a 2024 selection onto the package. Do something to break the tie with the Bears.

If the Packers really wanted him. Maybe they didn’t really want him. Maybe they just wanted to make Rodgers think they tried to get him.

The Packers have been, for 30 years, a draft-and-develop team. They don’t make big moves for established players. They don’t take chances. It likely traces to the lack of an owner to provide the impetus or supply ultimate approval quickly and efficiently. But it’s also baked into the DNA of the team.

Draft. Develop. Play it safe. No sudden moves. Slow and steady wins the race.

How often do slow-and-steady teams win a Super Bowl in today’s NFL? Look around the league. Which teams are currently displaying urgency, and which ones aren’t?

The Bills, Ravens, Chiefs, and Vikings are. The Packers aren’t. They never do. Currently, they apparently think it’s enough to make their franchise quarterback believe they’re making an effort.

Even if it’s half-hearted.

55 responses to “Packers once again fail to get an upgrade at receiver

  1. The Packers will spend just barely enough to placate their fans and quarterback but in reality they are one of the cheapest teams in the NFL (outside of maybe the Bengals).

  2. Yea those Vikings do things so much better. That is why they have won the North so often, oh wait.

  3. alvinmack says:
    November 2, 2022 at 9:47 am
    The Packers will spend just barely enough to placate their fans and quarterback but in reality they are one of the cheapest teams in the NFL (outside of maybe the Bengals).

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    Top paid QB, LT, ILB and CB. It is a salary cap league. Can’t pay everyone and sign everyone.

  4. When you’re paying your QB 60 mil per, and in a cap hell that will rage for years because of that 1 contract, how many invested WRS do you think they can be competitive for?

    They should have fleeced Denver in a Rodgers deal like I said, 2 years ago, and they’d be well on their way with a new QB, a youth movement and a very deep roster, being a viable SB contender for years to come.

    Instead, they let Rodgers control the narrative like Brady is doing in Tampa.

    They were warned.

  5. I really think both the Packers and Rodgers want a divorce. A bad season will make that a lot easier for everyone.

  6. Draft. Develop. Play it safe. No sudden moves. Slow and steady wins the race.
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    They spent a ton of money on the defense. (Za Smith, Preston Smith, Amos, Douglas, Campbell)

    What good has that done?

  7. alvinmack says:
    November 2, 2022 at 9:47 am
    The Packers will spend just barely enough to placate their fans and quarterback but in reality they are one of the cheapest teams in the NFL (outside of maybe the Bengals).
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    Tell me you’re stuck in 1995 without saying it…The Bengals are in the top 10 for cap dollars allocated this year. Meaning 20 other teams are “cheaper” than they are. They have for the last decade used nearly every cap dollar they had available to use.

  8. The Packers will spend just barely enough to placate their fans and quarterback but in reality they are one of the cheapest teams in the NFL
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    And yet they’ve been competitive for the overwhelming majority of the last 30 years…….

  9. So the brains want the Pack to take the couple draft picks they got for the best WR in the NFL, and trade them away for Claypool. Nope

  10. Rodgers is the most unpopular star in the NFL and right up there with Kyrie Irving as the most unpopular in all of sports . His diva attitudes have rubbed the Packers front office for a very long time many think and i agree this is was a plan designed to make him realize he’d be wasting his last few years in GB and demand a trade it’s a brilliant plan .

  11. You missed a hanging curveball, Mr Florio;

    Reggie White and Charles Woodson are two of the top FA signings of all-time, and cornerstones of the Packers only Championship teams the last 30 years.

  12. One thing missed in the article is the effect of the salary cap. Big contract money went to Rodgers, Bakhtiari, Clark, Alexander, Jones, Campbell and Smith. Whether all were wise or not can be debated. The Packers know that those contracts will once again handcuff them in free agency next year so not much talent will be coming from that route. So the draft picks become much more important. I may not like it as a fan but it is a reality not mentioned here.

  13. Expecting the Packers to make a trade to placate a star or show everyone else they’re now “all in” is what other teams do. Remember the fans who were upset when GB didn’t get Julio or AJ Green? How’d that work out.

    You stick to your plan and offer what’s fair and if it doesn’t work, oh well. The NFL today is too often viewed from the lens of the gambler (just sweeten the pot – ignore the plan) and I’m shocked so many fail to realize that.

    I’m Ok with GB not making the playoffs this year. And I’m OK to see these young WRs grow the second half of the season to show the team what it has in them.

  14. Given all the problems with this team, one average to above average receiver wasn’t going to help them much.

  15. Someone in the scouting department said they liked Christian Watson from FCS North Dakota State to be the replacement for Davante. The coaches picked that up and ran with it. By the time the season arrived, I actually heard commentators hailing the arrival of the “next Davante Adams,” Christian Watson. The kid dropped the very first ball thrown to him, a sure touchdown to open the season, and hasn’t been able to stay on the field since. Either the coaching staff was just trying to puff him up with the pre-season praise or they’re idiots who got sucked into the hype that Green Bay could somehow sustain the level of success they’ve been having with an extremely unbalanced salary sheet. Which is it?

  16. When you’re paying your QB 60 mil per, and in a cap hell that will rage for years because of that 1 contract, how many invested WRS do you think they can be competitive for?
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    2022 – $28.5~mil
    2023 – $31.6~mil
    2024 – $40.7~mil
    2025 – $59.3~mil
    2026 – #53.4~mil

  17. Not a Packers fan, but they spent two draft picks on two very good wide receiver prospects.

    Watson is still a little raw and was banged up, but his physical talent is undeniable. He’s big and runs by defenders. Doubs was an offseason star and has flashed on the field in games already. Lazard has proven he’s at-minimum a serviceable #2; Cobb isn’t as fast as he used to be but is a reliable slot receiver; and Watkins may be near the end but started a Super Bowl not long ago.

    Combined with Tonyan, who is a proven pass-catching tight end, and Jones, one of the best dual-threat running backs the NFL has seen over the last decade, and I don’t think they have a problem if Rodgers is as good as he’s supposed to be.

    The question: is he? We’ve literally never seen Aaron Rodgers without elite wide receivers.

  18. “… the Packers missed out on Claypool …”

    I find it odd one team “missed out” on a trading for a player when his present team — the team that presumably knows him best — is looking to “miss out” on him going forward and forever.

  19. Nothing is more amusing on this site than all the resident cap experts.. that know absolutely nothing.

  20. Rodgers is the problem, not the receivers. Rodgers could make any receiver look like an All-Pro. Key word: Could. Those days are gone, and yes it can happen overnite.

  21. alvinmack says:
    November 2, 2022 at 9:47 am
    The Packers will spend just barely enough to placate their fans and quarterback but in reality they are one of the cheapest teams in the NFL (outside of maybe the Bengals).
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    Tell me you’re stuck in 1995 without saying it…The Bengals are in the top 10 for cap dollars allocated this year. Meaning 20 other teams are “cheaper” than they are. They have for the last decade used nearly every cap dollar they had available to use.

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    Bengals ownership frugality extends well beyond player salaries — the stories are legion. I doubt that leopard has suddenly changed spots.

  22. Looks like Gutekunst wants Rodgers to retire. What other explanation is there?
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    Doubtful.

    It would cost the Packers $40.8 mil if he walks away… Only $31.6mil if he played in 2023.

  23. It’s over Tommy. It’s over! says:
    November 2, 2022 at 10:09 am
    The Packers will spend just barely enough to placate their fans and quarterback but in reality they are one of the cheapest teams in the NFL
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    And yet they’ve been competitive for the overwhelming majority of the last 30 years……
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    Because they’ve been lucky to have 2 back-to-back HOF QBs in that time period, something NO other NFL team has been fortunate enough to have. That’s what’s been carrying this team, nothing magical in terms of drafting and coaching, ect. Wake up to reality. Unless you get a 3rd HOF QB or win the lottery instead, face it, it’s back to the 1980’s and a years long rebuild because I doubt Rodgers will stay after this year. Heck, I bet he’s kicking himself for not leaving last year when he was MVP and 13-3.

  24. Aaron Brett Favre Rodgers is the problem. His run around and then chuck it deep, and hope for a penalty is no longer working

  25. His diva attitudes have rubbed the Packers front office for a very long time many think and i agree this is was a plan designed to make him realize he’d be wasting his last few years in GB and demand a trade it’s a brilliant plan
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    Sure. Makes sense.

    I mean, why not pay a guy over a quarter of a billion if you can’t stand him…

  26. The Packers have 7 (!) of their own first round picks on defense. Think about how crazy that is. So many resources invested on that average unit and not one elite player. Maybe a few good ones in Jaire and Clark. Gary is okay.

  27. I would mostly agree with Florio here, although I think one can argue that the Packers brass have been more aggressive in “going for it” than in past years. They’ve spent up to the cap, brought in the Smiths, etc.

    However, that also coincided with inexplicably trading up to draft Jordan Love immediately after a 13-3 season instead of getting Rodgers another weapon to get them over the hill. And broadly speaking, this has been their approach. Keep the team competitive to make the fans happy (and keep their jobs), but don’t take significant risks to win a SB because the consequences could result in unhappy fans and the front office getting fired.

    To me, the bigger story here is what happens now this spring. If Florio is correct about this being Rodgers last season with the Pack (and I tend to think he’s correct), then one would have to think some serious rebuilding is going to take place in the off season. Why keep high-priced veterans when the QB spot is a question mark? We could be seeing the first true rebuild in Green Bay in several decades.

  28. Someone in the scouting department said they liked Christian Watson from FCS North Dakota State to be the replacement for Davante.
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    Who doesn’t like those measurables?

    Its the coaches job to make the translate to the field. Its Watsons job to put in the work.

    Its a little early to write him off.

  29. alvinmack says:
    November 2, 2022 at 9:47 am
    The Packers will spend just barely enough to placate their fans and quarterback but in reality they are one of the cheapest teams in the NFL (outside of maybe the Bengals).

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    Pretty sure Packers are among highest spending teams currently. One of closest to the cap this year, and committed spending next year gives them little wiggle room. They pay their own players. They just don’t (usually) pay for players from other teams…Reggie White and Charles Woodson notwithstanding!

  30. It’s over Tommy. It’s over! says:
    November 2, 2022 at 10:44 am
    When you’re paying your QB 60 mil per, and in a cap hell that will rage for years because of that 1 contract, how many invested WRS do you think they can be competitive for?
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    2022 – $28.5~mil
    2023 – $31.6~mil
    2024 – $40.7~mil
    2025 – $59.3~mil
    2026 – #53.4~mil

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    I don’t care how they structured it. I know what the guaranteed money is over the life of the deal.

    He was handed 153 million in guaranteed dollars. They’ll be paying a cooked QB in 2024 or eating dead money. Either way you slice it, it’s a horrible contract for GB which is why they can’t pay any one else there. Bloated contracts on the market are just that. You can’t keep just adding them. KC has this problem, too. It’s why Tyreek Hill was dealt.

    55-60 million at that age is atrocious. I would even argue 40 mil in 2024 is such.

    Ironic that your board name is “It’s over Tommy”, when it’s also over for Aaron Rodgers.

    Who do you think is coaching him and his antics?

  31. alvinmack says:
    November 2, 2022 at 9:47 am

    The Packers will spend just barely enough to placate their fans and quarterback but in reality they are one of the cheapest teams in the NFL (outside of maybe the Bengals).

    So who should we have traded for? And you say cheapest as many have pointed out that we have top paid players at multiple positions which in turn already has us $2 million over the cap next year without signing any of our free agents. So please tell me how we fit in Cooks $18 million next year, or with Claypool in his final year of the rookie contract he will want to be paid, so I ask you again where do we fit just say $14 million into that cap situation? I personally give the Packers a B+ grade for trade day. They were the main landing spot and best offer until the Bears snuck in and they are blindly thinking the Bears will have a worse record than the Packers. They didn’t make a trade just to make an aging qb feel good and thinks he runs the team.

  32. It took the Vikings one day to replace a receiver(Smith jr) that we didn’t even know was missing with Hockenson from Detroit. It may take the New Vikings administration to move Packers off the dime. Think about it. Retire Rodgers right now and how many wins does this clown show of players figure to get? ZERO.They are and have been for years, paper tigers. Two HOF QBs in succession is the ONLY reason anyone is talking about them.

  33. Rodgers is the problem, not the receivers.
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    Nah, I’ll go with coaching.

    The young receivers clearly aren’t ready for primetime. In their defense, it doesn’t help that Cobb and Watkins are injured zeros.

    How is the pass blocking so bad all of a sudden? After being their major strength
    Why did it take LaFleur 7.5 games to realize the running game was his best chance to win?
    Why can’t the defense stop 3 backup QBs? Or carry the team through this rough stretch?
    How are the special teams STILL terrible after brining in the alleged best ST coach?

    You can hate Rodgers all you want. This team has MAJOR issues that aren’t going to be resolved this season.

  34. I give the Packers a grade of B+ because they realized they are not going to compete for a Super Bowl this year so they didn’t make a trade just to make a trade. They drafted 3 receivers this year and why not let them grow with Love or a new qb you draft next year. I think this was a statement to our QB that he doesn’t run this team.

  35. This article is essentially accurate. As a Packers fan, the truth hurts. On the other hand, 3-Super Bowl appearances, 2 Super Bowl titles and 15-20 division titles/playoff appearances over the last 30 years is top 5 in the league, so maybe their way works.

  36. It’s over Tommy. It’s over! says:
    November 2, 2022 at 10:09 am
    The Packers will spend just barely enough to placate their fans and quarterback but in reality they are one of the cheapest teams in the NFL
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    And yet they’ve been competitive for the overwhelming majority of the last 30 years…….
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    Packers fans are probably gonna wanna hang onto that little tidbit for the next few years when they don’t make the playoffs.

  37. One receiver isn’t going to fix all the problems the team has. The question is, do you rebuild around Rodgers or do you use the picks you get from trading Rodgers? If you choose to rebuild around Rodgers, what capital do you have?

  38. cribbage12 says:
    November 2, 2022 at 10:34 am

    Expecting the Packers to make a trade to placate a star or show everyone else they’re now “all in” is what other teams do. Remember the fans who were upset when GB didn’t get Julio or AJ Green? How’d that work out.

    You stick to your plan and offer what’s fair and if it doesn’t work, oh well. The NFL today is too often viewed from the lens of the gambler (just sweeten the pot – ignore the plan) and I’m shocked so many fail to realize that.

    I’m Ok with GB not making the playoffs this year. And I’m OK to see these young WRs grow the second half of the season to show the team what it has in them.
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    So you’re cool with the Packers wasting a season when they absolutely could’ve avoided it yesterday??? The Bills game really showed everybody the GB can’t compete with adding RECEIVERS(plural). Rodgers is already old & getting older, he can’t afford to waste a season at this point.

  39. Packers fans are probably gonna wanna hang onto that little tidbit for the next few years when they don’t make the playoffs.
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    I’ve enjoyed the last 30 years, beyond words really. (outside of some considerable angst the way the Favre fiasco went down)

    Would have loved another Super Bowl or two. But, they got to as many Super Sundays as they deserved.

    Its going to end at some point. I think most of the die hard fans are at peace with that.

  40. It’s over Tommy. It’s over! says:
    November 2, 2022 at 10:56 am

    It would cost the Packers $40.8 mil if he walks away… Only $31.6mil if he played in 2023.
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    Worth it.

  41. Rodgers could never be as good as Brett Farve. He always acts like the league owes him something. Work with the players you have on the roster and encourage them to play better rather complaining about them.

  42. GB front office wants AR12 to get so mad he walks. They are preparing to respond to a flood of Rodgers’ passive aggressive comments to the media.

  43. I don’t care how they structured it. I know what the guaranteed money is over the life of the deal.
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    When translated;

    You don’t understand how the NFL salary cap really works.

  44. We could be seeing the first true rebuild in Green Bay in several decades.
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    2005 was a total nuke job by Ted Thompson.

  45. If you draft and develop, you better hit on the draft.
    2019 Draft #12 Gary- Hit. #21 with addt’l #4’s to move up and dradt Savage-Major Miss. players drafted after. RB Jacobs(LV),M Sweat(Wash),WR’s D Samuel(SF),AJ Brown (now Phil), DK Metcalf(Sea), and wr McLaurin(Wash) after we pick TE Stenberger
    2020 Draft QB Love and add a 4th to move up. Players drafted after WR T Higgins(Cinn),M Pittman and J Taylor(Ind), S A Winfield(TB, WR C Claypool(Pitt) CB’s J Johnson and T Diggs….#128 G Davis (Buff). Easy to see why Packers are in trouble

  46. The Packers ownership and GM deserves to be ripped. They pushed Favre out of town clearly before they should have and neglected in his last couple of years to get him the weapons he needed too, just like they are doing now with Rodgers.

    On the other hand, Rodgers has few to blame but himself. Whether or not he was even coming back to the team was an open question that teammates AND the front office could hardly ignore. By the time he made up his mind Adams decided to leave (who could blame him?) and the team moved an impact player like Smith to a division rival of all things to do.

    In the Brady era the lack of playoff wins and Championships in spite of the QB play they’ve enjoyed is 100% on the organization. They have underachieved mightily.

  47. The Packers ownership and GM deserves to be ripped. They pushed Favre out of town clearly before they should have and neglected in his last couple of years to get him the weapons he needed too, just like they are doing now with Rodgers.
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    They didn’t push Favre out soon enough.

    After 2003, it was clear he wasn’t going to get to another Super Bowl, let alone win one.

  48. In the Brady era the lack of playoff wins and Championships in spite of the QB play they’ve enjoyed is 100% on the organization. They have underachieved mightily.
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    They’ve gotten exactly what they deserve.

    For the overwhelming majority of the last 20 years, they haven’t fielded respectable defenses.

  49. Claypool would’ve just been another WR who runs the wrong route in Green Bay. It makes more sense for Chicago – they’re used to that.

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