Is Josh McDaniels on the hot seat? Lose to the Colts, and maybe he will be

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Two weeks ago, as Broncos coach Nathaniel Hackett faced potential replacement during his first year on the job if his team had lost to the Jaguars in London, a fairly well-connected league insider asked why Hackett is getting so much criticism, while Raiders coach Josh McDaniels gets a pass?

The easy answer at the time was that Hackett got his job before current ownership arrived. In Las Vegas, owner Mark Davis hired McDaniels. The idea of Davis firing McDaniels during or immediately after his first season seems like a stretch. Even for someone as unpredictable as Davis can be.

Since then, the Raiders suffered a shutout in New Orleans. Last Sunday, they blew another big lead, this time in Jacksonville. The team that lost to Hackett and the Broncos in London a week earlier.

And now here the Raiders are. At home again. For the first time since a Week Seven win over the Texans.

That was supposed to be the start of a post-bye surge. They went 1-4 through five difficult games to start the season, beating only the Broncos. With the schedule softening, the Raiders were supposed to be toughening up.

Enter the Colts. Only days after an unprecedented degree of self-inflicted turmoil, they’re coming to town with an overmatched quarterback, an unqualified and inexperienced head coach, a play caller who was getting Frank Reich’s dry cleaning three years ago, and an overall sense of confusion and dysfunction.

If the Raiders can’t win this one, how can McDaniels survive?

It would still be highly unlikely for McDaniels to get the heave-ho during the season. But he could be in grave danger of getting fired after 2022 ends, if he loses on Sunday.

Then what? Given the affinity and affection Mark Davis has for Jon Gruden, could anyone rule out a return?

It sounds crazy. But not as crazy as Colts owner Jim Irsay firing Reich and hiring Jeff Saturday.

If Saturday and the Colts upend the Raiders on Sunday, crazy could be arriving on Monday in Las Vegas.

49 responses to “Is Josh McDaniels on the hot seat? Lose to the Colts, and maybe he will be

  1. He should be on the HOT seat. He needs to run back to N.E. and just realize he doesn’t have what it takes to be a head coach.

  2. The Indy Dolts beat the KC Chefs, so they can beat the LV Raiduhs, theoretically. But McDaniels is not goong anywhere: FACT: because Mark Davis cannot afford to pay him not to coach. He is safe for another year at the very least.

  3. Top to bottom the organization needs a fresh start. Even the owner should go but that won’t happen and at least he’s not like the clown in Washington.

    You can’t fail THAT many times. Mark Davis is clueless as to the hiring process (not that many of the other owners aren’t too).

    Raiders fans should at least take solace in knowing the Carr era is ending.

    Trading Adams has to be objective No.1 in a rebuild., if that’s possible. I see his contract has a lot of money guarantees coming in March 2023 so it might make sense to try and get a second round pick for him. A first is unlikely with the huge salaries.

  4. Boy, what a disappointment he’s been. And the AFC west exempting The Fighting Patrick Mahomes’.

  5. The other reason that can’t be overlooked is that Hackett has had multiple standalone games in primetime for the whole world to see, while McDaniels has been failing over there in local obscurity.

  6. Davis is the poorest owner in the NFL. There’s no way he blows it up this quickly. They’ve lost a lot of close games. They were stuck with Mayock’s roster after some ridiculous picks. Which is why they’re 28th in D. Carr has been Carr. Good, but never good enough. Now they signed his Fresno St buddy, so that’s an issue. New systems on both sides of the ball. Knee jerk fans want to blow it up after 9 games? Sorry, that’s just dumb.

  7. Don’t worry. The Colts won’t easily let anybody lose to them, currently constituted.

  8. I hope the Colts win this one. Not because I’m a Colts fan but because if they win it will drive the media insane.

  9. He’s getting 2 seasons at minimum in Vegas.

    Doubtful Mark Davis will fire him and be willing to pay 3 separate head coaches at the time same. Plus Davis knows the Raiders will not be an appealing job at all if he fires McDaniels after just 1 season, especially if Carr is still around.

  10. While I cannot speak on behalf of the organization, as a Patriots fan, I would be happy to take Josh back. We are looking for an experienced offensive coordinator, with three Super Bowl rings in that position. Matty P can go back to his consulting job, or whatever he did last year.

  11. I agree with those who say Davis needs to go, he does. He’s a bigger issue than McDaniels. The Raiders were worse with Chucky.

    I theorized that LV would trade for Mac. LV will have an early draft pick now. Could they draft a QB and tolerate waiting for QB to blossom? I still don’t think so. So I still like the Mac theory… but maybe the GM doesn’t want to tie himself to a QB who needs McDaniels. So I say Mac or Minshew. Minshew is a cheaper investment and not dependent on system. Raiders could then draft game changing best defensive player, since the top of draft will be all QBs.

  12. I doubt it,… but it makes good fodder on here. I doubt there’s been more than 1 or 2 NFL head coaches fired in their first season over the past 25 years. You need at least 3 years to turn a roster around so it fits the offense and defense schemes.

  13. If they lose to the Colts, they should fire McDaniels and hire Raiders legend Jamarcus Russell.

  14. Colts are playing for a top 5 pick…Saturday is perfect coach to prevent Raiders from stealing draft position from Indy.

  15. He’s come crawling back home to Uncle Bill begging for his job. He should have never left.

  16. Plus Davis knows the Raiders will not be an appealing job at all if he fires McDaniels after just 1 season, especially if Carr is still around.
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    I agree with everything you said. I will mention one thing related to the excerpt above. I think Carr is 100% gone. Whoever included the opt-in at season’s end for his contract should be celebrated. It’s not because Carr is bad. He’s a starter. It’s because the Raiders aren’t close. The mirage last year fooled people.

  17. Why davis hired this guy is beyond me. He’s a terrible head coach. Dreadful. Awful. Him, judge and Patricia should just be happy to have a job in NE.

  18. If you keep firing HCs how can you expect to get good HC candidates applying for the position?

    Are the raiders bad 100% because of Josh McD or is the team not that good? You need to give a coach 2 years to evaluate them.
    Maybe the GM isn’t good and that brings everyone down.

  19. rodgers will be traded to the raiders in the off season. raiders wont fire Josh, they will give him another season..

  20. McDaniels failing again as a head coach. What a surprise! Another failed guy from the barren tree that is Belichick’s legacy.

    Ah, maybe give mcdaniels some more time. Who knows….

  21. The raiders unfortunately fell for the Patriot way bs… so many teams have tried it and have failed. New England has not produced good or even decent head coaches other than Vabrel(who has his own style) not even Belichick is winning games after brady left .

  22. How many coaches are going to fail to win until they realize they don’t have a QB? Excuses are fine, but they don’t produce wins and they get coaches fired. If Bill Belichick is the greatest coach of all time, and he has never won anything without an elite QB, why on earth would any coach who’s not the greatest of all time be expected to do so? Did anyone notice Tom Brady going down to Tampa Bay and winning a super bowl with a team that hadn’t won a single playoff game in 18 years? Nope. Nobody noticed. Ok, just keep firing coaches. We’re the fans, and we’re not all that bright. Neither is Mark Davis. It’s hard to complain about the owner, when we’re just as lame.

  23. Let’s see maybe having Belicheck run the defense and Brady run the offense makes you look a whole lot better than you really are.

  24. jonathankrobinson424 says:
    November 12, 2022 at 3:00 pm
    Would love to see the return of Gruden!!

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    One question, why? Raiders never made the playoffs under him and he reached for more 1st round draft picks than most GM/Coaches get to make in a career.

    Another poster mentioned Vrabel. Vrabel never coached with the Pats, just played for them. That shouldn’t be reflected in his coaching career but after the Colts hire, maybe?

  25. charliecharger says:
    November 12, 2022 at 5:06 pm
    How many coaches are going to fail to win until they realize they don’t have a QB? Excuses are fine, but they don’t produce wins and they get coaches fired. If Bill Belichick is the greatest coach of all time, and he has never won anything without an elite QB, why on earth would any coach who’s not the greatest of all time be expected to do so? Did anyone notice Tom Brady going down to Tampa Bay and winning a super bowl with a team that hadn’t won a single playoff game in 18 years? Nope. Nobody noticed. Ok, just keep firing coaches. We’re the fans, and we’re not all that bright. Neither is Mark Davis. It’s hard to complain about the owner, when we’re just as lame.
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    Joe Gibbs! He won a lot without elite QBs. That itself should tell you that Belichick is not the greatest coach of all time. In fact, there are other coaches who have better winning % than belichick has without TB12.

  26. Even in this weird year, the Raiders and Colts are the most baffling stories of all.

    They have everything they need on paper. They’re just complete messes in practice. It’s kind of stunning.

  27. Vrabel never coached for the Pats is true, but he learned more about FB under Belichick than any where else. He’s said it before. This BB coaching tree is barren is just troll fodder. Daboll is a leading candidate for COTY. Bill O’Brien was a success in Houston, with many playoff appearances, until he took over GM duties. Flores was doing well in Miami, until extracurricular things took over. College coaches include Saban, KFerentz and Pat Hill. Several successful executives, Including Pioli, Robinson and Dimitroff. Not a perfect tree, but way underrated.

  28. Are Raiders fans opposed to Mac Jones? He would come at a discount. They could compete day 1 with him. Or do you prefer a rookie? It would probably be years to competitiveness with a rookie QB. In which case, the rookie would probably cost McDaniels his job and the QB would have to learn a new offense. I would like to hear from Raider fans on this. How do you proceed? Pray tell.

  29. Raiders have the same problem the Broncos have a very crappy front office and GM. You can hire all the headcoaches you want but when you’ve parted ways with every #1 draft pick you’ve taken in the last 5 years there’s no coach that can win with a wasted draft year after year

  30. Maybe some people don’t realize, but the GM/front office come in with McDaliels this year. Yes they’re dumping Mayock’s 1rst round picks. Know why? THEY CAN’T PLAY! They need to clean house. They aquired the best WR in the NFL. They signed CJones. Waller. Renfro and Parker have been on the field together for 62 snaps this year. It takes mare than half a season. Raiders need to draft a clue and donate it to their fans.

  31. How about giving the man a little time to put the team together the way he wants it? They’re installing totally new schemes on both sides of the ball and are cleaning house on a lot of players from the past regime.

  32. danceformemarionetteboy says:
    November 12, 2022 at 5:12 pm
    Who would have guessed that BB’s coaching only works when you have TB as QB?

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    Bob Kraft notices

  33. Yeah. . . blowing it up after 9 games is insane. There are concerns, but McDaniels deserves the season and probably a 2nd. Mayock and Gruden made countless disastrous draft picks, a new system and coach takes time to gel. McDaniels is NOT my favorite coach, I wouldn’t have hired him, but crappy owners/ teams make knee jerk reactions and don’t give coaches time. It takes 2 yrs to assess a coach. Unless a new hire loses the locker room or is completely out of their depth (maybe N. Hackett), they deserve time.

  34. Colts don’t want to win any more games this year and the Fade started early this year and they don’t look like they know how to win.

    Should be a riveting contest, rivaling the Colts vs Broncos thriller from a month ago.

  35. The fate of the Patriots lies with the Raiders! Fire McDaniels and the Patriots will be reborn! We could be great again! Let’s go Clots!

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