If Aaron Rodgers returns, he needs to be all in, all year

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In early 2008, the Packers told quarterback Brett Favre that they needed to know ASAP whether he’d be returning for another season. Favre chose to retire.

In early 2023, will the Packers send a similar message to Aaron Rodgers?

And it could be more than simply asking Rodgers if he’s willing to play. To get the most out of another season from Rodgers, the Packers need to know that he’s all in. That he’s willing to, for example, show up for the offseason program, in order to help the team’s receivers get more comfortable, more quickly.

It’s a point Peter King made on Friday’s PFT Live. Given the apparent link between Rodgers doing the bare minimum in the 2022 offseason and the time it has taken for the team’s young receivers to get comfortable, the Packers would be far better off if Rodgers had been fully engaged in the voluntary phase of the offseason program.

So it’s not unfair for the Packers to ask Rodgers in January 2023 whether he’s willing to go above and beyond the call, in exchange for his ongoing compensation in excess of $50 million. Really, for that much money, is expecting him to show up for the offseason program really going above and beyond?

Of course, Rodgers will have to want to keep playing. He may decide to call it quits after a disappointing 2022. But remember this — Brett Favre had a very bad year in 2006. It was the last time, before this season, that the Packers started 4-7. Favre came back for another year, and he had a great final season with the Packers.

If this is Rodgers’s final season with the Packers, it’s anything but great. And, frankly, the team may need to know at some point before the end of the season whether he’s all in for 2023. If he isn’t, the smart move could be to pivot to Jordan Love for the balance of the season.

65 responses to “If Aaron Rodgers returns, he needs to be all in, all year

  1. And suppose he won’t commit to optional offseason practice but he’s willing to play again and collect $50 million? That’s the Packers’ fault for giving him that contract.

  2. I went to be a financial seminar years ago where he was a guest speaker…he’s already set himself up for his next chapter in life.

  3. He really doesn’t need to be. He has them on the hook for as long as he wants, they have no viable alternative.

  4. The Packers and LaFleur are too meek to tell Rodgers anything. Rodgers tells them what to do, not the other way around. Rodgers cusses out LaFleur on the sideline and the next day LaFleur apologizes.
    However 3rd string bubble players get publically called out by the Packers

  5. Green Bay’s problems go far beyond #12 – they’re not very good on draft day. There are only 4 players on the current roster who were drafted in the 2018 and 2019 drafts. Rodgers isn’t the problem – the salary cap goes up every year and QB’s all over the league are paid high salaries after their 5th year in the league. Having 30 years of hall of fame quarterbacks and just three Super Bowl appearances should tell you what you need to know.

  6. This guy has been overrated for some time. He isn’t an MVP by any stretch and the Packers have nothing to lose by sitting him and throwing Love out there. At this point, the receivers would probably play harder for Love than to catch drama from Aaron while he’s out there throwing terrible balls to wide open receivers.

  7. This entire season just feels like a rehash of 2015 all over again – the star WR from the previous year is gone [Nelson/Adams], Rodgers was coming off an MVP year [2014/2021], he had missed a chunk of offseason stuff, we had to rely on an old Packers WR that we previously cut [James Jones/Randall Cobb] to pick up the slack in production. The biggest difference however is injury – Rodgers thumb injury clearly is affecting his accuracy and zip he can put on the ball. He needs to stop powering through the season and just shut it down so it can heal. Once healthy, he can decide if he wants to play or not.

  8. I’d say he might want to go to the Seahawks since it is one of the few teams west of the Mississippi that will be looking for a QB in 2023 and he may want to be closer to the West Coast, but the Seahawks will have 33 players under contract and just 34 mil in cap space. They’d need to be able to sign 19 more players plus practice squad while trying to swallow Rodgers 31.6 mil cap hit in 2023. The Saints, Bucs (if TB12 hangs em up), and Panthers would like him but won’t have the cap space. The Falcons, Giants, and Bears all have the cap space to do it. You know who else might have the cap space to do it? The New England Patriots….and Rodgers and BB seem to have a mutual man crush. Unlikely, but not out of the question.

  9. Thinking like ego boy, he comes back not wanting to not be remembered for bombing his last year. Throw in another 50 mil and ya he plays but last year

  10. Play another year for the garenteed 50 million and decide after next year. He’s in the driver’s seat

  11. Aaron Rodgers is the least of the Packers’ worries. This is one of the most talentless Packer squads I’ve ever seen. Receivers can’t catch the ball, they run the wrong routes, the O-line is soft.

  12. Laying the blame of this subpar season for the Packers at Rodger’s feet is asking a lot. Sure, he’s had a down year and deserves some of the blame, but if you remember at the beginning of the season, the Packer’s defense was proclaimed to be the “latest and greatest” and they’ve turned out to be the “same old, same old”.

  13. Not totally accurate so need to make a correction.. 06 the packers finished 8-8 (actually started 4-8 but sure, 4-7 as well) however, it wasn’t a very bad year for Favre and considering the finish to the season – 4 straight wins, cut down on ints, developed an emerging Greg Jennings & a prime Donald driver plus the good feels of 4 wins to end the season.. & more importantly about Favre, he did have an improved year over his 2005 season (that was VERY bad). So, though 06 was sub par, and the context here is a bit off. That said, 07 was phenomenal, one of his best as a packer.

  14. I went to be a financial seminar years ago where he was a guest speaker…he’s already set himself up for his next chapter in life.

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    I would hope so, considering the guy has made over $300 million not including endorsements and is slated to make another $150 million on his current contract. What financial advice could Aaron Rodgers possibly give the average Joe?

  15. Packers fan for over 50 years and there’s much more important work to be done with this team then just Rodgers showing up for a voluntary camp with the rookies, although I agree he should. Watkins and Cobb will be gone and it’s Lazard, Tonyans & Williams contract years. They should all be gone and the Packers need to throw any resources they, have money and draft capital, into building a legitimate WR corp, Rodgers or no Rodgers. And the first order of business is to dismiss DC Joe Barry.

  16. Packers have some decisions to make. My guess is…I don’t know. Is Aaron just going to quit? Go out like this? I don’t take him, as a competitor, as a guy who would do that. But maybe towards the end of the season have a good run to make it easier to retire. I could see that. I don’t think they’ll make the playoffs. So hopefully they’ll win enough to drop that draft pick and Lafleur can keep his job.

  17. The only thing better this season than watching the Packers implode is watching the Vikings go 8-1.

  18. “That he’s willing to, for example, show up for the offseason program, in order to help the team’s receivers get more comfortable, more quickly.”

    No. And I am still not going to retire. What about voluntary do you fail to understand?

  19. They literally have no leverage. If the Packers cut Aaron Rodgers he will count towards $99M of the cap in 2023. If they chose to split that it would be $31M in 2023 and then $68.2M in 2024.

  20. Rodgers doesn’t have to show up for pre-season practice to “help” his receivers. They have another QB on their roster that they selected in the first round. Certainly, a QB who was drafted in the first round is fully capable of helping run practice. That’s why so many head coaches were backup QB’s. If their backup QB isn’t capable of doing his job, why did they waste all that draft capital on him? The Packers have been so close to winning another super bowl since wasting those precious picks. Those picks could have possibly been used to draft a couple decent players. Could have won another super bowl. Rodgers has won two MVPs since that draft. Rodgers has obviously been “all in”. My question is why haven’t the Packers been “all in”. So, the team squanders two draft picks on a backup QB who can’t even do his job, yet Rodgers, with two MVPs is the bad guy? Ok. Got it.

  21. donnymacjack says:
    November 18, 2022 at 8:43 pm
    This might be the biggest fall-off from an MVP season in the history of the NFL.
    ——
    Mark Mosely had an off year after he was MVP. Dropped from 95% accuracy to 70%.

  22. I have seen this before, one good example is Shaun Alexander. He was at his very best, I think even winning an MVP and then disappearing the next year and never to be seen again.

  23. Let’s get real both sides would love a divorce he won’t win a SB with the Packers anymore so trade him to a contender he’ll be happy and hopefully we can still get 2 2nd rd picks for him.
    Keeping him another year is a very bad idea.

  24. He’ll be back, he craves attention, if ne was a mans man he would show up for every little off-season program, he would also play for less money so the team could sign more top tier free agents, but he won’t.

  25. Yeah this is what happens when you give big money to players like this. The entitlement of Rodgers is pretty sickening but i get his gripes. The packers not dong enough to get him weapons to make a serious run and him being at constant odds with the front office over that mace this is his revenge? However it is Rodgers knew he was going to have a new and inexperienced cast this year and he just casually strolled into the off-season like it was any other year after the packers kneeled down to him. Like the previous poster said it’s the packers fault

  26. Matthew Stafford has same number of wins following the Super Bowl. Do him next? You only care a out criticizing the packers and Rodgers. It’s blatant. You even did it wearing a Vikings jersey recently.

  27. Jordan Love stinks. They’re not pivoting to him under any circumstances. They’ll draft somebody else. Should have traded him to the 49ers when they offered their whole draft. GM should be fired for that non-move.

  28. I don’t believe there is any disagreement with that outside the Packers’ locker room. The irony is, with Jordan Love fully participating in the off-season program, he probably had greater rapport with his young receivers than Rodgers did, when Rodgers strolled into camp.

  29. bucsandbolts says:
    November 18, 2022 at 10:00 pm
    This guy has been overrated for some time. He isn’t an MVP by any stretch and the Packers have nothing to lose by sitting him and throwing Love out there. At this point, the receivers would probably play harder for Love than to catch drama from Aaron while he’s out there throwing terrible balls to wide open receivers.
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    Play harder how? Suddenly they can run faster, or cut better to get open? How long do you think they’d “play harder” for him when he tosses more interceptions than TDs, fumbles the ball, or can’t get them the ball when they are wide open. You do know his completion rate is under 60%, which is in the realm of terrible.

  30. look how the contract was structured. Rodgers is coming back. Packers would have way too much dead money if he was traded or retires. He has said he wants to keep playing. He’s not going anywhere. 2023 is his last year in Green Bay. Rodgers won’t demand a trade either because he’s not mad at them anymore-all he wanted was a new deal and he got it. No way he walks away from that cash.

  31. We all kind of know the guy has a mean streak about him. If he is as smart as some say, he would have figured wow I need to get into the OTA’s and work with these new guys to see what I got and I darn well should do a little pre season work to go get rolling before the season kicks off.

    He didnt do because he was pissed he lost Adams, MVS and St Brown. His way of tacitly giving the management the finger.

  32. All on the owners that caved to give their employees the players all this control. Millions of dollars and we hear words as only if they are all in.

  33. Someone evidently doesn’t know what “needs” means.
    All Rodgers “needs” to do is fulfill his contractual obligations.
    To suggest otherwise is just stupid.
    If the Packers think Love would do a better job at QB then they should by all means play him.
    Radgers then only “needs” to be a backup and collect his $50 mill.

  34. This same team could have easily gone 12-5 with Rodgers’ and the rest of the team healthy. Watson is showing you how he can stretch the defense and he is practically now just playing his third game. Bakhtiari was mostly unavailable early and then key injuries mounted throughout the squad – Lazard, Cobb, Watkins, Watson, Jenkins, Doubs, Barnes, Campbell and now Gary. The offense was depleted and Rodgers wasn’t good enough to compensate. The defense stayed on the field far too long and couldnt keep up. The biggest short term stupidity was letting Amari Rodgers keep fielding punts – oh and LeFleur gets schematically outcoached and usually fails to respond.

  35. lionsnati0n says:
    November 19, 2022 at 5:22 am
    I have seen this before, one good example is Shaun Alexander. He was at his very best, I think even winning an MVP and then disappearing the next year and never to be seen again.
    —————-
    Alexander broke his foot in week 3 of the 2006 season, missed 6 games. He was never the same after that injury.

  36. And suppose he won’t commit to optional offseason practice but he’s willing to play again and collect $50 million? That’s the Packers’ fault for giving him that contract.
    ==========

    2023 – $31.6~mil
    2024 – $40.7~mil
    2025 – $59.3~mil
    2026 – $53.4~mil

  37. This might be the biggest fall-off from an MVP season in the history of the NFL.
    ===========

    Kurt Warner, and its not close.

    Went from MVP to not even being able to hold down a job as a starter for 5 years, thanks to the poundings Martz subjected him to.

  38. look how the contract was structured. Rodgers is coming back. Packers would have way too much dead money if he was traded or retires.
    ==========

    $40.3mil in guarantees if he retires after this year. That can be split over 2 seasons. Thats hardly insurmountable.

    They can’t afford to trade or release him. Its impossible. The cap his is nearly $100mil.

  39. Its pretty hard to be in Green Bay for offseason work with the team when you are in South America getting your mind blown and staying spaced out.

  40. While one of those new receivers does have 5 TDs over two games, he also has like only 7 receptions. The jury is still out on all of them. But, what isn’t a beautiful mystery is the fact that Rodgers is coasting and has no desire to work hard. He is done, even if he keeps playing. But people will remember the past and still insist he’s a great QB. At this point, the rest of the nfl wants him to keep playing.

  41. We’ve had a great run for 30+ years here in GB. We all knew that someday that would end. But it sure was fun while it lasted. Who knows what the next 10 years will look like,.. But I’ll guarantee you Lambeau Field and the sports bars and parking lots surrounding the area will still be rockin’ on game days.
    It’s a city wide party on game day. And a big part of this small town economy.

  42. Kinda weird to be here at the end of November blaming the Packers difficulties on 10 days of otas in spring. That’s more media bs than reality. The reality is a combo of things. Rodgers has no confidence in his receivers, the play calling is awful (look at how many times all of his receivers are 20 yards down field when we need to pick up 5 for a first down), his QB coach is gone, the oc is gone, and the defense has regressed bigly, no longer able to cover for the struggling offense. Ad in Rodgers being a little older and a bad thumb, it all adds up to where we are.

  43. The only way GB doesn’t play 12 is if he’s injured – whether a real one or a feigned one – and they decide to “shut him down for the year.” Then we’ll see Love.

    I’d like that feigned injury scenario to pop up and see Love the rest of the year.

  44. Jordan Love might not fail as the fourth seventeen-year Packer HOF quarterback to come along. I’m not writing off this historic franchise just yet.

  45. donnymacjack says:
    November 18, 2022 at 8:43 pm
    This might be the biggest fall-off from an MVP season in the history of the NFL.
    ———————–
    He didn’t deserve the MVP last season… He threw 1,200 less yards and 6 TD’s than Brady.
    Rodgers finished – 10th overall in yards and 4th overall in TD’s.

  46. If Packer management had any brains at all (fortunately they don’t) they would find a way to get another talented young rising team to take him next year and his contract and play Jordan Love and find out if he can play. Gonna be a lot of tough years coming for Packer fans. LOL

  47. The Packers are a mesd. The QB is a jerk and a pariah. The coach is meek and uninspirational. The GM gets his marching orders from the QB. And the fans that usually turn on players after they leave have now turned on current players. Hoot!

  48. flastayred says:
    November 19, 2022 at 7:18 am
    It’s time for Rodgers and Brady to hang it up.
    ………………………………………………………………………
    No way does Rodgers retire and leave all that money on the table.

  49. Rodgers is playing with a broken thumb. Give it a rest!!!

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++

    That is not an excuse that he missed open receivers.

  50. Longtimepackerfan says:
    November 19, 2022 at 4:46 pm
    Rodgers is playing with a broken thumb. Give it a rest!!!
    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    He tried to rest it. In fact, he sat on both his thumbs for most of the summer.

  51. He tried to rest it. In fact, he sat on both his thumbs for most of the summer.
    +++++
    And he hurt his thumb in the fall.

    All of those who beat the anti-Rodgers drum so incessantly should show better restraint.

  52. That is not an excuse that he missed open receivers
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    He’s trying your Brady theory.

    Throw to vacant areas of the field and pray receivers can get there………

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