John Mara will get Giants players’ input into new field surface at MetLife

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In a nod to NFL players’ growing concerns about the safety of synthetic fields, Giants co-owner John Mara says he’ll consult with players before a new field is installed at MetLife Stadium.

The stadium, where both the Giants and Jets play, will get a new surface after this season. But while stadium authorities have previously said it will remain a synthetic turf, the Giants released a statement to the New York Daily News suggesting that all options are on the table.

“The next field in the stadium is the subject of ongoing discussion between the Jets, the stadium and us,” the Giants’ statement said. “John has heard from the players and other experts about playing surfaces as part of his roles on the player safety and health committee, competition committee and management council. He expects to have conversations with our players as we move along in the process of selecting a new field.”

If it’s up to the players, the surface will be grass. Despite the NFL’s stance that grass and synthetic fields are equally safe, there’s been an organized movement among players this year to demand grass fields. Mara is willing to listen, but whether he’s willing to act on what he hears is a separate question.

38 responses to “John Mara will get Giants players’ input into new field surface at MetLife

  1. Wonder if they can actually grow grass (on top of dirt of course) on top of a rubbery surface so the impact of a fall will not be as bad. One thing for sure that is a step in the right direction, I hope other owners will follow.

  2. Grass is a safer option when done correctly. Fedex field was literally dirt painted green when rg3 blew out his knee. But proper ownership wouldn’t allow that to happen. Baltimore has 2 back up fields on a farm in north Carolina just in case it gets chewed up during the season.

  3. What’s this?

    Ask employees their opinion?

    Mara must be a commie or a very devious owner.

  4. Not sure the difference between a high quality natural grass turf and a high quality synthetic turf is all that much as related to injuries. Near as I can tell proponents of both sides make good arguments backed by hard numbers. The Mara’s are highly reputable in NFL circles and their decision will carry a lot weight.

  5. The data does show the surfaces are equally safe so the move against turf is a reaction to public perception.

  6. footballpat says:
    November 26, 2022 at 7:46 am
    The data does show the surfaces are equally safe so the move against turf is a reaction to public perception.
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    The data shows exactly the opposite. The NFL’s own expert consultant found that grass fields have two to three less injuries per season.

  7. miltonwiltmellow says:
    November 26, 2022 at 6:52 am
    What’s this?

    Ask employees their opinion?

    Mara must be a commie or a very devious owner.
    _____________

    According to some here being a business owner entitles one to treat people anyway they like, to do anything they wish. Those folks would never consider consulting with employees. They consider it to be a sign of weakness.

  8. Since I know John Mara , he is fair minded guy and it amazes me that anyone would knock him for inviting the players ON HIS TEAM, to see what they think!
    Can’t seem to satisfy the fans!

  9. JIMMIE D says:
    November 26, 2022 at 9:39 am
    Since I know John Mara , he is fair minded guy and it amazes me that anyone would knock him for inviting the players ON HIS TEAM, to see what they think!
    Can’t seem to satisfy the fans!

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    No you don’t

  10. One would hope and think that with all of the money being made some of it could be spent in a collaborative approach that would look into methods to grow grass. There has to be a better way to do it using today’s technology. Ideally softer for impact, warmer to prevent freezing, a good root system to hold up better etc…

  11. I foresee a new 8 billion dollar domed stadium in the Giants/Jets future. Eh, make that 10 billion.

  12. The data is only part of the story. They examined non contact injury incidence rate for 2020, 2021 and preseason 2022. They didn’t look at type of injury, severity, and player activity when the injury happened. Those talking about softening the impact of the turf don’t get the issue. It’s not the turf hardness. It’s the traction and how it grabs during pivoting, etc. Anyone who has even walked on it knows it’s true. I want to see data on non contact knee injuries resulting in missing multiple games.

  13. gibson45 says:

    November 26, 2022 at 9:08 am

    footballpat says:
    November 26, 2022 at 7:46 am
    The data does show the surfaces are equally safe so the move against turf is a reaction to public perception.
    ______________

    The data shows exactly the opposite. The NFL’s own expert consultant found that grass fields have two to three less injuries per season
    ———-
    That’s not accurate but not surprising Gubson45 is making up facts as usual 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ The data shows that overall the playing surfaces are equally safe HOWEVER those same studies do show that leg and lower leg injuries happen more on a synthetic surface than on grass but overall injuries on synthetic vs grass is the same

  14. There are 20 NFL games held on this field every season. Plus a number of high school and college games, concerts, wrestling, WWE, etc events every season. The team is also in the northeast, with colder temperatures during football season. In all honesty, regardless of what the players or pundits might want, I don’t think a grass field would hold up under these conditions. So it will likely be some form of synthetic field.

  15. Money and statistics can be used to validate any position. Common sense would say the only opinions that are truly valid are the guys who are actually playing on the field. Let the players decide. But whatever it is, it should be the same in all stadiums.

  16. Has anyone noticed that when the players get tackled, or make a cut, or slide on turf a black cloud goes up into the air. That “cloud” is ground up tires. The players have to be breathing in that stuff. I wonder if, in the future, some players will develop lung issues from inhaling the tire material. It can’t be good for them.

    Having said that, I think that it’s insane for Met Life to have an artificial field. It’s an outdoor stadium.

  17. Players can’t be the only consideration in a multipurpose outdoor stadium. Whatever they come up with has to be forgiving enough for NFL games but durable enough for tractor pulls and arena sized concerts. That’s no easy task with real grass.

  18. They have grass in Green Bay. So…it can be done in cold weather. Seems like this should be a no brainer as the increased cost will be split across 2 teams

  19. Sunday Swami says:
    November 26, 2022 at 11:08 am
    gibson45 says:

    November 26, 2022 at 9:08 am

    footballpat says:
    November 26, 2022 at 7:46 am
    The data does show the surfaces are equally safe so the move against turf is a reaction to public perception.
    ______________

    The data shows exactly the opposite. The NFL’s own expert consultant found that grass fields have two to three less injuries per season
    ———-
    That’s not accurate but not surprising Gubson45 is making up facts as usual 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ The data shows that overall the playing surfaces are equally safe HOWEVER those same studies do show that leg and lower leg injuries happen more on a synthetic surface than on grass but overall injuries on synthetic vs grass is the same
    ____________

    Incorrect. The NFL/NFLPA consultant found that players have a 32 percent higher rate of non-contact knee injuries on turf and a 69 percent higher rate of non-contact foot/ankle injuries on turf compared to grass.

  20. One of the many downfalls of a shared stadium. Played on both, grass is far superior – when in good shape. Come December, re-sod will be required, doesn’t always work out well.

  21. allinforallen says:
    November 26, 2022 at 9:56 am
    What do they do if the Giants want grass and the Jets synthetic or vs.?
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    LOL…You’re not a New Yorker. We all know the answer. What the Jets want is irrelevant. 2nd class citizens. Just the way it is and everyone within 100 miles of NYC knows it.

  22. Synthetic fields are nice for that “perfect” surface feel. But that turf bite and little extra give while making a cut are noticeable. That being said, at least astroturf over concrete is no longer an option.

  23. allgasnobrakes says:
    November 26, 2022 at 12:12 pm
    They have grass in Green Bay. So…it can be done in cold weather. Seems like this should be a no brainer as the increased cost will be split across 2 teams

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    The Packers also have heating coils in the field and synthetic fibers “stitched” into the real grass to stabilize the underlying layer of sand. The sand is critical for proper drainage and without that little bit of synthetic “help” the sand can get worn away really fast, creating all kinds of havoc.

    There are very few synthetic fibers, relatively speaking. They’re about 3/4″ apart from one another and stick up less than an inch above the soil.

  24. The field should be made of pillows.
    Helmets should be made of pillows.
    Shoulder pads should also be made of pillows.

  25. gibson45 says:

    November 26, 2022 at 12:36 pm

    Sunday Swami says:
    November 26, 2022 at 11:08 am
    gibson45 says:

    November 26, 2022 at 9:08 am

    footballpat says:
    November 26, 2022 at 7:46 am
    The data does show the surfaces are equally safe so the move against turf is a reaction to public perception.
    ______________

    The data shows exactly the opposite. The NFL’s own expert consultant found that grass fields have two to three less injuries per season
    ———-
    That’s not accurate but not surprising Gubson45 is making up facts as usual 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ The data shows that overall the playing surfaces are equally safe HOWEVER those same studies do show that leg and lower leg injuries happen more on a synthetic surface than on grass but overall injuries on synthetic vs grass is the same
    ____________

    Incorrect. The NFL/NFLPA consultant found that players have a 32 percent higher rate of non-contact knee injuries on turf and a 69 percent higher rate of non-contact foot/ankle injuries on turf compared to grass.
    ———-
    Which are leg and lower leg injuries🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ or do you need an anatomy lesson to understand where your knee, feet and ankles are located…

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