Dennis Allen on Chris Olave catch being overturned: I don’t know what a catch is anymore

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Among the things that didn’t go the Saints’ way during Sunday’s 13-0 loss to the 49ers was a replay review of a 30-yard pass from Taysom Hill to Chris Olave in the second quarter.

Olave appeared to catch the ball and possess it while getting both feet down on the ground before losing control after being tackled. The ruling on the field was a catch, but 49ers head coach Kyle Shanahan challenged that it was actually an incomplete pass.

That was the ruling after a review with Fox rules analyst Dean Blandino explaining the decision by saying that Olave failed to perform an act common to the game and “goes to the ground, he loses the football, he doesn’t complete the process.” The Saints would have been on the eight-yard-line, but wound up punting after a penalty pushed them even further back.

After the game, Olave said he disagreed with the call but has “to move on from there.” Saints head coach Dennis Allen also expressed his confusion about the ruling.

“I don’t know what a catch is in our league anymore,” Allen said, via Luke Johnson of NOLA.com. “It’s changed multiple times. Their explanation to me was that he didn’t survive the ground. Yeah. I don’t know what a catch is.”

Two Alvin Kamara fumbles, a missed field goal, and several ill-timed penalties combined with the 49ers defense and the overturned catch to make it a very long day for the Saints.

22 responses to “Dennis Allen on Chris Olave catch being overturned: I don’t know what a catch is anymore

  1. Blandino is a shill for the refs and the NFL. He’s there to add some faux validity to the arbitrary officiating.

  2. “If a player, who satisfied (a) and (b), but has not satisfied [act common to the game], contacts the ground and loses control of the ball, it is an incomplete pass if the ball hits the ground before he regains control, or if he regains control out of bounds”. No matter what the rule is, there will always (literally) sooner or later be a non-catch that comes incredibly close to being one while still falling short. While Olave very nearly got a third step in and/or turned upfield and/or tucked the ball away, he didn’t actually do any of those “acts common to the game” before beginning to go to the ground. By rule, under that circumstance if the ball comes loose upon ground contact and then the ball touches ground…that’s it. No catch. Super close, stinks that it falls just short, but it is what it is (and what “it is” is a correct ruling). Change the rule, and it would just change which play becomes the closest-but-not-quite.

  3. Umm, they removed the stipulation of “surviving the ground when the player has possession and reaches for the line to gain. It’s literally right in the new rule.

    Blandino and McCaulay cheated on live tv because they are told to.

    They want the viewer to forget that the rule was changed, ironically from backlash of the correct ruling on the Jesse James incompletion, ironically setting up the fake TD by Corey Clement in the sb between Philly and NE.

    All Goodell does is move the goalposts to help one team over another.

  4. surviving the ground should be eliminated – this would clean a lot of this nonsense up

    when a guy has the ball with his two hands and no bobble he caught it

    if he bobbles it then gets two hands on it again then he caught it

    surviving the ground opens up too many gray areas for anyone to interpret

  5. 6ringsnewengland says:
    November 28, 2022 at 11:09 am
    surviving the ground should be eliminated – this would clean a lot of this nonsense up

    when a guy has the ball with his two hands and no bobble he caught it

    if he bobbles it then gets two hands on it again then he caught it

    surviving the ground opens up too many gray areas for anyone to interpret

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    It is eiminated in the 2018 new rule!!!

    Right from NFL.com:

    “The new rules defining a catch include:
    Control of the ball.
    Two feet down or another body part.
    A football move such as:
    » A third step;
    » Reaching/extending for the line-to-gain;
    » Or the ability to perform such an act.

    The key change to the rule eliminated the “going-to-the-ground” element of the previous rule.”

  6. The NFL has taken too many great catches away from some players.

    I know what the rule says, but in reality, it comes down to that particular play in that particular moment. Whatever the ref decides is, is. Holding? Pass Interference? All up to the interpretation of the referee.

    Today? Not a catch. Tomorrow? Could be a catch. HD tvs and multiple angles showing each play 1 frame at a time makes for great controversy and social media clicks. So the NFL is continuously getting engagement.

    “All press is good press” apparently.

  7. If you watch the video of this he seems to make a clean catch and then take 3 steps – it is beyond bizarre that this would be called a non-catch.

  8. It is eiminated in the 2018 new rule!!!

    Right from NFL.com:

    “The new rules defining a catch include:
    Control of the ball.
    Two feet down or another body part.
    A football move such as:
    » A third step;
    » Reaching/extending for the line-to-gain;
    » Or the ability to perform such an act.

    The key change to the rule eliminated the “going-to-the-ground” element of the previous rule.”

    THIS IS INACCURATE BECAUSE THE NEW RULE ESSENTIALLY IS THE SAME IT JUST DOESN’T USE SPECIFIC WORDING “SURVIVING THE GROUND” BUT ITS INTERPRETED THE SAME WAY

  9. That was a catch the End. The ref’s are beyond horrible every single game has these type of calls and the NEVER get it right its always the opposite of what it should be. Perfect example was in the Seahawks vs Raiders yesterday. DK caught the ball it waas called a catch. They spent almost 5-10 minutes looking at it and reversed it! And the Raiders are my team.

  10. Dennis Allen on Chris Olave catch being overturned: I don’t know what a catch is anymore.

    Seems to be a lot of that going around in our cancel culture.

  11. He didn’t make a football move, he didn’t survive the ground, he didn’t make a common football act, and nobody knows what any of this means

  12. Well they awarded Kamara a deep reception that was never under complete control and he lost it. So even steven

  13. Correct call. He didn’t catch it. Saints had another long “catch” that would have been overturned earlier in the game too.

    0 points.

  14. They called this against the Patriots in their game, Hunter Henry clearly caught the ball and then held it out to break the plane before going to the ground and bobbling it as he rolled. Was called a non-catch. NE is not full of babies so there wasn’t a lot made of it.

  15. Depends on how much money the officials have on the teams that are playing, and which team benefits from the ruling.

  16. If it’s against my Saints it will always be a BS call. Even when we have a losing season Goodell hates us.

  17. They need a time limit on these things, if you’re analyzing 10 shots from 9 different angles for 10 minutes that can’t be happening

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