Matt LaFleur on Joe Barry: If I thought there was an issue there, we’d make a change

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The Packers have had no shortage of things fail to come together for them this season and the defense has been at the top of the list in recent weeks.

Sunday night’s loss to the Eagles was the third straight time that the Packers have allowed more than 400 yards and they gave up 363 yards on the ground over the course of the evening. That’s the third-highest total in franchise history and it led to renewed questions for head coach Matt LaFleur about defensive coordinator Joe Barry.

LaFleur was asked on Monday if there was any thought of letting Barry go or replacing him as the defensive play caller and LaFleur said that wasn’t on the table.

“We’re not going to go down that road,” LaFleur said, via Tom Silverstein of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. “If I thought there was an issue there, then I would certainly, we’d make the change. But we work as a staff. And collectively, we’re all in this sucker together.”

Given the way this season has gone, there’s not much left to salvage over the final five games of the year. The disappointment of this season will lead to changes come the offseason, however, and it seems unlikely that the status quo will reign on defense.

33 responses to “Matt LaFleur on Joe Barry: If I thought there was an issue there, we’d make a change

  1. Oversaw a horrible defense on Detroit. Oversaw a horrible defense in DC. How does he keep getting hired?

  2. LaFleur is a leader of none, he is soft, he looks lost, to stand by one of the worst defensive coaches in the league is just not smart.

  3. Seems like Mike McCarthy style loyalty. Jim Leonard could be available. I’d take that risk vs keeping Joe Barry on. I’d even consider making that move now.

  4. The issue is you spent like 7 of your own first round picks on that defense over the years and it’s a below average unit, with no special player to speak of. The only special defensive player for the Packers this past decade is in Minnesota now.

    Imagine if they spent 4 of those picks on the offense. Maybe a receiver?

  5. chickensalad43 says:
    November 29, 2022 at 9:24 am
    The issue is you spent like 7 of your own first round picks on that defense over the years and it’s a below average unit, with no special player to speak of. The only special defensive player for the Packers this past decade is in Minnesota now.

    Imagine if they spent 4 of those picks on the offense. Maybe a receiver?
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    No special player? Jaire Alexander, Rashan Gary, and Kenny Clark all say hi.

  6. The only special defensive player for the Packers this past decade is in Minnesota now.
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    Alexander is arguably the best corner in football.

    Kenny Clark would start for every team and could be unstoppable if he was paired with anyone remotely decent.

    Campbell was an All-Pro last year and is easily the best ILB this team has had the last decade.

  7. Imagine if they spent 4 of those picks on the offense. Maybe a receiver?
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    Defense has been this teams downfall since 2011.

    I have no problem with their strategy. Big investment in free agents as well (Amos, the Smith Bros, Campbell, Douglas, Reed)

    I think this is a coaching problem. I think there are defensive coaches all over the League that could get more out of this talent.

  8. An apt analogy for Mr. LaFleur’s denial:

    The wife leaves a note behind after leaving: “This isn’t working.”

    The husband wonders why? What was the issue?

    Similarly, Mr. LaFleur is at the bewilderment stage…..the oblivious moment will soon be over
    in January when he replaces Mr. Barry.

  9. Obviously there’s a serious problem with the Packers’ defense. Even when considering the injuries, the unit is still far less than the sum of its parts. Given the lack of offensive weapons, if the defense could have been just “good” this year they could have had a chance to win games with the ground and pound approach that’s more suited to their current offensive talent.

    That being said, Lafleur is in a tough spot. The season is lost and it’s unlikely that anyone on staff could suddenly improve the defense if Barry was let go mid-season. The only value left to this season is to get a look at young players so that more informed roster decisions can be made for next year.

  10. “titanic Captain: “full steam ahead!” Not quite,more like a warship Captain whos ship has been damaged in battle.you try to keep it floatable and head to the nearest friendly port for serious repairs then get back into the war.After the season is over they will make some serious changes in personnel and coaches.now is not the time,the battles are not yet over in 2022.

  11. Since the Packers have no owner the tough decisions are made my the GM after serious discussions with his coach and other hierarchy.the coach is simply the mouthpiece for decisions made by those above him.

  12. Fundamental tackling would solve 75% of the problem.
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    Man, I just don’t think so.

    The coverages are awful. The safeties always seem to be 2 steps behind everything. Savage got benched, and Amos has been terrible. Alexander is a lockdown guy, the way they use him in coverage is an abomination.

  13. Oversaw a horrible defense on Detroit. Oversaw a horrible defense in DC. How does he keep getting hired?
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    It’s the NFL way. Insular to a fault. Nathaniel Hackett will be an OC within a year of getting canned by the Broncos. Kliff Kingsbury will get an OC job at some point. Both those sound crazy but will absolutely happen.

  14. I don’t think it’s all a personnel issue on defense,… and granted injuries don’t help either.
    It’s a scheme issue on defense. I realize ZONE is what is popular in the NFL right now,.. but our opponents are taking advantage of Zone Defense.
    I’d prefer to see this defense run a lot more man defense. Get the corners up on the WR’s,… no cushion. Disrupt their routes and timing.

  15. Of course Joe Barry will be fired less than 3 days after the final game, more importantly, the entire defensive staff will be dismissed as this is a case where the entire coaching staff failed to maintain a standard.

    To some small degree, there is an advantage in keeping Joe Barry in place. First, the Packers will likely improve their draft position, secondly, the next guy to be hired will be somewhat impressed by the loyalty shown Joe Barry given the poor performance on the field, and lastly, a clean break from the entire coaching staff is needed so set the stage for next year. Because that’s all the Packers have right now, next year.

  16. I think Matt LeFleur has already decided to fire Berry at the end of the season. He just doesn’t want to do it mid-season. Unless there’s a miraculous turn-around.. (nobody’s taking that bet.)

    Packer fans should remember Ron Wolfe and the Ray Rhodes debacle. During the middle of the season he was asked if he would fire him, and he said absolutely not. Then after the season Rhodes was gone. When asked Wolfe said that he wouldn’t fire somebody during the middle of the season. I believe LeFleur is taking the same path. He has no choice. If he doesn’t make any changes at the end of the season, he’s automatically on the hot-seat for the 2023 season.

  17. There is an “issue” there Coach LaFleur. Evidently the issue is you are stubbornly delusional. You just had 10 days to come up with a game plan for a running QB, and you let him run for 100 yards in the FIRST QTR! The week before they “contained” Derrick Henry, but let a middling QB put 330 on them with the worst receiving corps in football.

    The guy didn’t win 13 games three years in a row because he’s stupid, but good lord is he stubborn and slow to see reality.

  18. I don’t understand why he was hired in the first place?? Granted we had a good defense last year but it ranked the same as Pettine’s the year before, so he basically inherited it. Now that we have lost a couple good players he just can’t adapt.

  19. Barry was hired by Washington to be their DC. That should be a stain that would preclude him from being hired by anyone seeking a defense that can do more than put on a uniform.

  20. Aaron Fraudgers is still better than your QB says:

    Savage got benched, and Amos has been terrible. Alexander is a lockdown guy, the way they use him in coverage is an abomination.
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    Savage left the game with an injury, he did not get benched because of performance.

  21. Clearly he’s just trying to prop the guy up till the season is over — can’t blame him for that comment. Two thirds of the state of WI is clamoring for Leonard, but maybe the vaunted Pack defenders aren’t that good and over-achieved in 2020 and 2021 after the offense got big leads.

  22. What is it with this team and letting qb’s set rushing records against them. I honestly think if the 85 bears or 2000 ravens were cloned, opposing offense would still do whatever they want. GB can develop qb’s but not field a decent defense.

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