An offseason push to make roughing the passer reviewable is coming

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From time to time, the controversy regarding roughing the passer calls that actually are, as Chris Simms calls them on PFT Live, “nothing the passer” subsides, with no flags flying for otherwise legitimate physical contact with a quarterback.

And then it happens. A play that causes football fans to wonder whether the sport is still football.

On Sunday night, Dolphins pass rusher Jaelen Phillips sacked Chargers quarterback Justin Herbert. It looked fine. Referee Scott Novak disagreed, flagging Phillips.

Novak, who wasn’t questioned by a pool reporter after the game, likely would say he thought that Phillips fell on Herbert with his body weight. But, at some level, that’s what a tackle is. One body falls onto another one.

There was nothing from Phillips that seemed to suggest he didn’t try to brace his fall or that he did try to inflict some sort of physical indignity on Herbert. Nevertheless, a penalty was called.

Tweeted Phillips after the game: “If I’m about to be fined $15,000 for ‘roughing the passer’ then there needs to be some accountability and a review of what constitutes that penalty.”

We’ll throw in another wrinkle. As a league source told PFT earlier this year, there will be an offseason push to make roughing the passer calls subject to replay review.

The league has pushed back against the possibility of taking replay back to the realm of the quasi-subjective, citing its horrendous failure to properly handle replay review of pass interference calls and non-calls in 2019 as the justification for it. But the fact that the league bungled replay review of pass interference should never be a shield against any expectation that it properly implement replay review of other calls.

Moreover, roughing the passer is one of the rare rules that instructs referees to lean on the side of throwing a flag. “When in doubt about a roughness call or potentially dangerous tactic against the quarterback, the referee should always call roughing the passer,” the rulebook states.

Earlier this year, when the nothing-the-passer controversy reached critical mass, NFL executive V.P. of football operations Troy Vincent appeared on ESPN’s Sunday NFL Countdown and linked the league’s “when in doubt” approach to maximizing TV viewership of games.

“It’s a different game today,” Vincent said. “It’s a safer game today. It’s a better game today. . . . Ninety-one of the top-100 shows last year on television were NFL games. Why? Because of the quarterback play. They want to see points and scores. I think we all have an appreciation. If you don’t have a QB, you don’t have a chance to win. As a defender I knew that, you can’t score points, you can’t win.”

A team can’t win a game, and the NFL can’t win the broader game of getting the most possible people to watch.

Setting aside whether the good of the game should take a backseat to the good of the business of the game, the deeper issue isn’t whether replay review is available or whether the referee should be accountable. It’s whether the “when in doubt” language should be removed from the rule.

If it isn’t, then replay review absolutely should be available to fix any situations in which the doubts of the referees weren’t warranted.

17 responses to “An offseason push to make roughing the passer reviewable is coming

  1. I’m all four player safety but it doesn’t need to be a reviewable call it needs to be redone as an entire rule. The new rules on roughing the passer are just ridiculous. Especially about the body weight. How can you tackle someone without your body falling on top of them?

  2. NFL officials stink and always have – get rid of these guys & slim down the rule book. Too many rules compensating for bad officiating.

  3. I’m not gonna say the roughing the passer called on Phillips was a bad call because there was an element of his weight that landed hard on Herbert. That is what they are looking for. But, the problem is where is the weight supposed to go? He braced with both arms and reduced the weight that fell on Herbert, but the QB is going to feel some weight. It is a tackle after all.

  4. Setting aside whether the good of the game should take a backseat to the good of the business of the game.

    Baseball has already shown you that if you allow the game to evolve to “optimal” play that it can very easily lead to a business that’s fading. As teams optimize offense and defense there always need to be rules adjustments to maintain the balance least you end up with an unwatchable product.

  5. Mike white was hit harder multiple times in buffalo, but it was ok since they didn’t land on him. I understand protecting the QB, but by the ‘QBs equal ratings logic’ outlined by Vincent—Milano should have been flagged for unnecessary roughness. Didn’t he hit Mike white harder than was necessary?

  6. Why? Why do we keep asking for a band aid when it doesn’t address the real problem? Do we really think we’re making progress? It’s a bit comical. Have you ever seen a dog running around a tree trying to catch his tail? That’s what this is like. Enjoy!

  7. I disagree.
    The powers that be demanded ‘less violence’ in football, they want a “touchy-feely” type of football.
    I quote the immortal Jack Lambert who famously, and correctly, said “QBs should wear dresses”.

  8. How far away from this are we: six plays per game will be flagged for post-game review. Each play will be looked at and points either deducted or awarded according to some stupid formula. All of the actual game winners will then be announced at noon on Tuesday. Lol.

  9. This was a Sunday night prime time game with an egregious call that should have been overturned immediately by the replay officials watching in New York. If not for correcting this type of potentially game-changing call, what are they doing? The silence indicates that some games and certain teams are selected for off-site intervention, but others aren’t. That doesn’t smell like the “level playing field for all 32 teams” mantra the commissioner pushes to the public.

  10. How about make roughing the passer only for egregiously late or violent hits. That’s it. No “contact with the head”, below the knees, or body weight fouls. It should be a rare penalty and we should know it when we see it.

  11. Officials also have to understand that if 2 helmets slightly bump into each other without an egregious hit to the QB, that is not roughing. Common sense needs to step in at some point.

  12. Fortunately, it had no real bearing on the game as Miami forced a point and Hill scored that 60 yard TD moments later. I was expecting to see a tiny amount of helmet to helmet on the replay. But, there was nothing. On such a late flag, too. What kind of conversation does there have to be to throw that? I could see a bang bang flag thrown by accident. But this was atrocious…

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    finfanjim says:
    December 12, 2022 at 9:18 am

    Fortunately, it had no real bearing on the game as Miami forced a point and Hill scored that 60 yard TD moments later.
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    It gave the Chargers extra precious time to eat off the clock. That was the real bearing on the game it had.

  14. Defenders have a massive incentive to crush the QB. Hurting the QB wins games, gets on TV and socials, and leads to big contracts. The rules protecting QBs can either err on the side of protecting QBs or rewarding vicious hits. I think the NFL should, at most, overturn these penalties when replay shows that there was a clear error, eg no helmet contact.

  15. NFL Pundit says:
    December 12, 2022 at 8:49 pm

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    finfanjim says:
    December 12, 2022 at 9:18 am

    Fortunately, it had no real bearing on the game as Miami forced a point and Hill scored that 60 yard TD moments later.
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    It gave the Chargers extra precious time to eat off the clock. That was the real bearing on the game it had.
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    Not to mention it dictated how J.P. and the rest of the defense had to restrain their intensity the rest of the game or else the Zebras would get them again.

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