Josh McDaniels: I wouldn’t be standing here if it wasn’t for Bill Belichick

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When Josh McDaniels was in his first year with the Broncos in 2009, he coached against Bill Belichick and the Patriots in Week Five.

Denver ended up winning that game 20-17 in overtime, with Kyle Orton leading the charge at quarterback.

So Sunday’s game between the Raiders and Patriots won’t be the first time McDaniels is across the sideline from one of his biggest football mentors as a head coach. Plus, Las Vegas and New England met in the preseason this year.

But it has been a long time since McDaniels went against Belichick in a game that counts.

“Honestly, it’s a unique opportunity. And I would say that I look forward to all these opportunities, they don’t come out around often,” McDaniels said in his Wednesday press conference. “I know he’s going to get his football team ready to play on Sunday at [1:05]. I don’t think he’s going to care a whole lot about how much he mentored me or what he did and vice versa.

“And that’s not a bad thing. I don’t think he would expect anything less from me than to just compete and do everything we can to help our team win, and I know that’s what he’s going to do. So, I look forward to the competition. I know they do it the right way. Eager to have our team go through our week of preparation here and get ready for a hell of a football game on Sunday.”

McDaniels called Belichick a “great mentor for me” not just in football, but also in life.

“Look, it’s obvious I wouldn’t be here, or even in the National Football League, if it wasn’t for Bill,” McDaniels said. “Robert [Kraft], Jonathan [Kraft] gave me a great opportunity a long time ago. He’s been invaluable to me in a lot of ways. Hard to measure all of them.

“I got to see firsthand how to try to do it the right way. His philosophy on everything; offseason, training camp, in-season, postseason, evaluations, draft, free agency. He gave a lot of his time to me, and I was able to hopefully pick up as much as I could.”

McDaniels added going back to New England after his failed stint in Denver and as an offensive coordinator with the then-St. Louis Rams was a “real important period of time for me.”

“I’m watching him the second time around, and maybe the first time I didn’t even know to look for it, and now I’m looking for different things,” McDaniels said. “How he handles adversity, what he’s doing here in the offseason, how he’s handling the bye week? What’s he doing in April, May, June, etc. that maybe I wasn’t even clued in on that existed before I left.

“And so, it gave me a great opportunity to kind of look at it through a different lens and really try to take some time to process those things while I was watching somebody that’s obviously the best that’s ever done it do it again. … [H]e’s always given to me time, attention and information. He’s been very open and honest with me about everything, and I wouldn’t be standing here if it wasn’t for him.”

We’ll see if McDaniels can push his record to 2-0 against Belichick on Sunday afternoon.

59 responses to “Josh McDaniels: I wouldn’t be standing here if it wasn’t for Bill Belichick

  1. No, no, ya wouldn’t. Nor would Tom Brady and dozens of others who became millionaires after being hired by BB.

  2. touchback6 says:
    December 15, 2022 at 10:03 am
    No, no, ya wouldn’t. Nor would Tom Brady and dozens of others who became millionaires after being hired by BB

    ———-

    Without Tom Brady, BB’s career winning percentage is less than Jeff Fisher’s. Looks like you may have it backwards

  3. Josh McDaniels will have to explain why he drafted QB Tim Tebow in the 1st rd for the rest of his life.

  4. Finally he admits he isn’t a coach and rides the coat tails of BB.

    Some integrity and honesty.

  5. Without Tom Brady, BB’s career winning percentage is less than Jeff Fisher’s. Looks like you may have it backwards

    ——-

    Yup, because one player can win super bowls all by himself, I mean just look what Brady is doing this year with the Bucs, they are absolutely killing …. Oh wait….

  6. The Raiders are the biggest disappointment of 2022.

    Top 3 mistakes that screwed the Raiders:
    1: moving to Vegas
    2: Gruden scandals and drama
    3: Devante Adams trade

  7. nhpats2011 says:
    December 15, 2022 at 10:27 am
    touchback6 says:
    December 15, 2022 at 10:03 am
    No, no, ya wouldn’t. Nor would Tom Brady and dozens of others who became millionaires after being hired by BB

    ———-

    Without Tom Brady, BB’s career winning percentage is less than Jeff Fisher’s. Looks like you may have it backwards

    —————

    Tom Brady didn’t show up like 2007 Brady. He was a 4th string QB. You can’t really Separate BB and Brady. Together they worked.

    Sure, Brady won a Super Bowl without BB. He took everything he learned for 20+ years to another team that had winning talent and he instantly changed their culture for a year. That has a ton to do with Belichick.

    2001 Brady or even 2007 Brady could not have done that.

    Looking at it in a very binary way is short sighted.

  8. Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, says all the right things but as a HC can’t hold a lead. He’ll soon be back at Bill’s side where he belongs.

  9. Top 3 mistakes that screwed the Raiders:
    1: moving to Vegas
    ==========

    Was Oakland going to build them a stadium?

    I think the Raiders would have had more success than the Rams in Los Angeles, but Kroenke had the money, Davis did not.

    Vegas was the only move for Davis.

  10. nhpats2011 says:
    December 15, 2022 at 10:27 am
    touchback6 says:
    December 15, 2022 at 10:03 am
    No, no, ya wouldn’t. Nor would Tom Brady and dozens of others who became millionaires after being hired by BB

    ———-

    Without Tom Brady, BB’s career winning percentage is less than Jeff Fisher’s. Looks like you may have it backwards
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    To be fair, Todd Bowles record WITH Tom Brady isn’t any better…Guess Brady can’t elevate a team after all like Montana or Elway could.

  11. McDanials has already proven ONCE AGAIN he is not a HC. Any other owner would realize their mistake and make him a ‘one and done’ employee. Mark Davis won’t , so Raiders nation will have to live with him for years to come.

  12. jokersc says:
    December 15, 2022 at 10:48 am
    Without Tom Brady, BB’s career winning percentage is less than Jeff Fisher’s. Looks like you may have it backwards

    ——-

    Yup, because one player can win super bowls all by himself, I mean just look what Brady is doing this year with the Bucs, they are absolutely killing …. Oh wait….

    ****

    So you’re looking at 1 down year for Brady as a 45 year old player, but ignoring the fact that BB had 10+ years of coaching below .500 without Brady … makes sense.

  13. GoodellMustGo says:
    December 15, 2022 at 11:18 am
    nhpats2011 says:
    December 15, 2022 at 10:27 am
    touchback6 says:
    December 15, 2022 at 10:03 am
    No, no, ya wouldn’t. Nor would Tom Brady and dozens of others who became millionaires after being hired by BB

    ———-

    Without Tom Brady, BB’s career winning percentage is less than Jeff Fisher’s. Looks like you may have it backwards
    —-
    To be fair, Todd Bowles record WITH Tom Brady isn’t any better…Guess Brady can’t elevate a team after all like Montana or Elway could.

    ****

    Is that really fair though? A 45 year old QB having a down year, when most QBs don’t even play pass 40. It’s like taking Michael Jordan’s 2 years in Washington, and saying, “See, MJ is no good without Phil Jackson. All those 30+ point games and clutch shots were the byproduct of the triangle offense.”

  14. Sure, Belichick would have a worse head coaching record if it weren’t for Tom Brady. You know what though? Belichick drafted Tom Brady, unlike the 31 other GMs who had a chance to do so.

  15. 1) Brady and Belichick were arguably the best QB and best coach of their era, quite possibly of all time. I don’t think that either achieves the success they had without the other.
    2) Joe Montana was great but he didn’t bring huge success to KC at the end of his career (age 38). The team re ord wasn’t bad but Joe’s numbers weren’t outstanding.
    3) Brady did put the Bucs over the top in his first year there. Yes, the Bucs were already a strong team but they desperately needed an elite QB. How did virtually the same team do with Winston at QB? Brady was 43 at the time and if you think that was a fluke you’re not paying attention. In 2020 Brady threw for over 4600 yards, 40 TDs and only 12 INTs. Just last year he followed that up by leading the league with over 5300 yards, 43 TDs and again only 12 INTs. At age 44.

    I’m not a Patriots or Bucs fan but I can appreciate great talent. Actually, generational talent.

  16. Brown nosing coaches love brown nosing players. If not they get released or traded. If they do they see the field.

  17. jvotoronto says:
    Is that really fair though? A 45 year old QB having a down year, when most QBs don’t even play pass 40. It’s like taking Michael Jordan’s 2 years in Washington, and saying, “See, MJ is no good without Phil Jackson. All those 30+ point games and clutch shots were the byproduct of the triangle offense.”
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    I get the age argument but this year isn’t his first down year. 2013 and 2019 come to mind. He wasn’t very good in those seasons either. Clearly can’t elevate an inferior team to greatness like I would expect from someone called the GOAT.

  18. 3) Brady did put the Bucs over the top in his first year there. Yes, the Bucs were already a strong team but they desperately needed an elite QB. How did virtually the same team do with Winston at QB?

    It wasn’t the same team. Brady’s team was so much better. They added Gronk, AB and Fournette. Winston would have put up huge numbers with them and probably would have won it all if the defense including Vea stepped up like they did.

  19. jvotoronto says:
    December 15, 2022 at 11:19

    So you’re looking at 1 down year for Brady as a 45 year old player, but ignoring the fact that BB had 10+ years of coaching below .500 without Brady … makes sense.

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    Except BB has had only 6 losing seasons in 28 years. All in rebuilding years. Nice “facts”.

  20. Let’s just say that TOGETHER BB & Brady terrified the players, coaches & fans of other teams on such a basis that many are STILL trying to overcome the damage inflicted on their psyche……

  21. 2) Joe Montana was great but he didn’t bring huge success to KC at the end of his career (age 38). The team re ord wasn’t bad but Joe’s numbers weren’t outstanding.
    ==========

    The Chiefs were one of the best teams of the 1990s. 9 winning seasons, 6 10-plus win seasons, 2 13-win seasons.

    Montana is the only QB in that span to get KC to an AFC Title game.

  22. 3) Brady did put the Bucs over the top in his first year there.
    ==========

    2019 Bucs offense – 3rd
    2019 Bucs defense – 29th

    2020 Bucs offense – 3rd
    2020 Bucs defense – 8th

  23. the bottom line, ‘cuz Stone Cold says:
    December 15, 2022 at 1:52 pm
    3) Brady did put the Bucs over the top in his first year there.
    ==========

    2019 Bucs offense – 3rd
    2019 Bucs defense – 29th

    2020 Bucs offense – 3rd
    2020 Bucs defense – 8th
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Exactly. That’s why they won the Super Bowl.
    I doubt there are many QB’s in the league who couldn’t win a game where the defense holds the other team to 9 points.

  24. GoodellMustGo says:
    December 15, 2022 at 2:01 pm
    the bottom line, ‘cuz Stone Cold says:
    December 15, 2022 at 1:52 pm
    3) Brady did put the Bucs over the top in his first year there.
    ==========

    2019 Bucs offense – 3rd
    2019 Bucs defense – 29th

    2020 Bucs offense – 3rd
    2020 Bucs defense – 8th
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Exactly. That’s why they won the Super Bowl.
    I doubt there are many QB’s in the league who couldn’t win a game where the defense holds the other team to 9 points.

    So based on this argument , Joe Montana doesn’t get any credit for the SB the 49ers won 55 to 10 over the Broncos because his D only allowed 10 points and “I doubt there are many QBs in the league that couldn’t win a game when the defense holds the other team to 10 points”..

    So ANY QB that has won a SB where his D played well shouldn’t get any credit???

  25. Joe Montana doesn’t get any credit for the SB the 49ers won 55 to 10 over the Broncos because his D only allowed 10 points
    ==========

    Can anyone see past the 5 td passes and the near perfect QB rating? (147.6)

  26. the bottom line, ‘cuz Stone Cold says:
    December 15, 2022 at 2:38 pm
    Joe Montana doesn’t get any credit for the SB the 49ers won 55 to 10 over the Broncos because his D only allowed 10 points
    ==========

    Can anyone see past the 5 td passes and the near perfect QB rating? (147.6)
    —–
    Against the #1 defense in the league.

    Brady has never done anything like that and never will.

  27. Sure, Brady won a Super Bowl without BB. He took everything he learned for 20+ years to another team that had winning talent and he instantly changed their culture for a year. That has a ton to do with Belichick.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    If so, Belichick the garbage would be calling plays now instead of Patricia.

  28. Can anyone see past the 5 td passes and the near perfect QB rating? (147.6)

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I just know that Brady would have won all the SB if he had the defense Montana had.

    I am sure that Brady wouldn’t have scored only 3 points with Jerry Rice and Roger Graig.

    I am sure that Brady wouldn’t have played only 21 minutes, the key reason that 49ers lost to Giants in 1991 NFCCG.

  29. No, no, ya wouldn’t. Nor would Tom Brady and dozens of others who became millionaires after being hired by BB.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    The reason Belichick the garbage doesn’t have to worry about feeding his family was because of Brady.

    SI : When No One Believed in the Belichick Way
    “His belief was steadfast, and that meant leading his coaching staff through a daily steeplechase of rigorous scouting, preparation and planning WHILE THEY THEMSELVES WERE NOT SURE IF THEY SHOULD PUT THEIR HOMES ON THE MARKET “

  30. People on here with all of these arguments about how defenses won those games. Maybe study the games and learn football. Most of the time a great offense keeping the ball and scoring keeps the D fresh and forces the other team to be predictable in their offense. It is called complimentary football. A great offense is in effect a great defense.

  31. William Lee says:
    December 15, 2022 at 10:21 pm
    Can anyone see past the 5 td passes and the near perfect QB rating? (147.6)

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I just know that Brady would have won all the SB if he had the defense Montana had.

    I am sure that Brady wouldn’t have scored only 3 points with Jerry Rice and Roger Graig.

    I am sure that Brady wouldn’t have played only 21 minutes, the key reason that 49ers lost to Giants in 1991 NFCCG.
    —-
    Brady would be out of the NFL quickly in those days where you could pummel the QB. Period.

  32. Brady would be out of the NFL quickly in those days where you could pummel the QB. Period.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Saints’ Cam Jordan still mulling over playoff loss to the Buccaneers

    “If you limit them to the air it’s not like they’re really going to beat you. Tom Brady does such a phenomenal job getting the ball out hot. You know, they talk about how vaunted their offensive line has been this past year, you just looked at who they’ve been guarding. WHEN YOU’RE RELEASING THE BALL AT 2.5 SECONDS, IT DOESN’T MATTER WHAT OFFENSIVE LINE IS IN FRONT OF HIM. Tom Brady is Tom Brady for a reason because he’s able to release the ball as fast as he does. He’s able to dissect defenses as fast as he does. He lives for the next down.

  33. So ANY QB that has won a SB where his D played well shouldn’t get any credit???

    ——
    So you’re saying Brady is “any QB” and not the GOAT where the bar should be much higher?

    Works for me! 🙂

  34. The reason Belichick the garbage doesn’t have to worry about feeding his family was because of Brady.
    ==========

    Won 2 Super Bowls as Giants DC

    Built the Ravens organization, which has won 2 Super Bowls

    The Jets named him head coach and he didn’t even want the job.

    Belchick wouldn’t have had any problem putting food on the table.

  35. I am sure that Brady wouldn’t have played only 21 minutes, the key reason that 49ers lost to Giants in 1991 NFCCG
    ==========

    Interesting theory.

    Who’s defense was that… that nearly ended Montanas career for the second time…..

    And btw, 1991 NFCC Game was Washington Vs Detroit

  36. Belichick drafted Tom Brady, unlike the 31 other GMs who had a chance to do so.
    ____________

    He also passed on him for 5 rounds giving every other team in the league 5-6 opportunities to steal him. BB deserves credit for PLAYING Brady when many would not have but the DRAFTING was total luck because no way does he think “this kid is going to be great” and then sits back for 5 rounds just hoping nobody else takes him.

  37. mogogo1 says:
    December 16, 2022 at 9:54 am
    Belichick drafted Tom Brady, unlike the 31 other GMs who had a chance to do so.
    ____________

    He also passed on him for 5 rounds giving every other team in the league 5-6 opportunities to steal him. BB deserves credit for PLAYING Brady when many would not have but the DRAFTING was total luck because no way does he think “this kid is going to be great” and then sits back for 5 rounds just hoping nobody else takes him.


    That’s right he didn’t think that and he shouldn’t have with that scouting report that came with Brady.

  38. People on here with all of these arguments about how defenses won those games.
    —–
    The defense and kicker won every single one of Brady’s Super Bowls. Fact.

    Brady had one chance to change that… he had the ball down 5 with 2 minutes left vs the Eagles… and he fumbled away the game. Had James White open in the flat but decided to play hero ball to pad his own stats at the expense of the team and paid the price. That’s a shame.

  39. Won 2 Super Bowls as Giants DC

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I just know that to expect Belichick’s defense to hold in 4th quarters when needed is like to expect Brady to fail putting offense in FG range to win with 2 minutes left. (how can such a coach be a defensive genius is beyond my understanding, care to explain?)

    Belichick’s career in Giants proved it, like 1990 loss to Rams in playoff, like 1991 SB against Bills in SB. (BTW, the NFCCG against 49ers was in Jan 1991) Belichick’s career in Pats prove it, NOT ONLY IN PLAYOFF, ALSO in regular season, like the loss in last game against Dolphins in 2019 season that cost Pats HFA. (What was in your mind when Pats led 24-17 in 4th quarter against Rodgers and Packers? DID YOU HAVE FAITH IN BELICHICK’S DEFENSE?)

    BTW, in SB against Broncos, Giants offense took over in 3rd quarter. Given the history of defense, we can be 99% sure that Belichick’s defense would fail in 2nd half if Giants offense had failed.

  40. WHEN YOU’RE RELEASING THE BALL AT 2.5 SECONDS, IT DOESN’T MATTER WHAT OFFENSIVE LINE IS IN FRONT OF HIM.
    ==========

    Have you watched this year? (rhetorical, I know you have..)

    28th ranked offense (bottom 5), negative point differential.

  41. This just amuses me to no end.

    I am not a fan of Mike Sherman or Mike McCarthy in any way shape or form. I think both made their living solely off their HOF QBs.

    If they had been to 9 Super Bowls, I would have shrines set up to them everywhere. I wouldn’t even care if they had lost all 9 games.

    Worse; I’m sure Parcells recommended Belichick to his buddy Ron Wolf at some point along the way.

  42. This just amuses me to no end.

    I am not a fan of Mike Sherman or Mike McCarthy in any way shape or form. I think both made their living solely off their HOF QBs.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I don’t remember Mike Sherman or McCarthy ever took the credits they didn’t deserve. No one ever tried to take credits away from Aaron Rodgers for his sole SB win, even though he played like a garbage against Bears in NFCCG.

    I am sure if Rodgers had been able to do what Brady did in SB 2002 against Rams, with the garbage squad given Belichick the garbage, Rodgers would be hailed as a hero that saved the team.

    Again: I just know that to expect Belichick’s defense to hold in 4th quarters when needed is like to expect Brady to fail putting offense in FG range to win with 2 minutes left. (how can such a coach be a defensive genius is beyond my understanding, care to explain?)

  43. BTW, in SB against Broncos, Giants offense took over in 3rd quarter. Given the history of defense, we can be 99% sure that Belichick’s defense would fail in 2nd half if Giants offense had failed.
    ==========

    Yes. Simms was amazing.

    From the 2nd Q on, the defense was fantastic. No evidence whatsoever to back up your claim. Polar opposite; a huge safety, a goal line stand, ANOTHER stop inside the 5 at halftime.. half of the Broncos points were garbage time scores.

  44. (What was in your mind when Pats led 24-17 in 4th quarter against Rodgers and Packers? DID YOU HAVE FAITH IN BELICHICK’S DEFENSE?)
    ============

    All I will remember about that game was the Packers couldn’t stop a 2nd and 3rd string QB.

    Turns out the Packers D isn’t any good, but I thought otherwise at the time.

  45. I just know that to expect Belichick’s defense to hold in 4th quarters
    ==========

    2001 Rams – 17 points, (was) #3 scoring offense of all-time
    2004 Colts – 12 points, (was) #4 scoring offense of all-time
    2016 Falcons – 28-3.. #9 offense of all-time.. how did that 2nd half go?
    2018 Rams – #10 offense of all-time.. 3 points.. T-h-r-e-e

  46. Don’t bring up the games against Colts, because EVERY good defense in playoff was able to stop Peyton.

    Again, my point IS that Pats wouldn’t have won SB with any other QB, with the squad given by BeliCHEAP. Like the 6th SB, the reason they had chance against Chiefs was because Brady played 39 minutes.

    So it really doesn’t matter what Belichick’s defense did in ONE of 3 playoff games.

    Again : I just know that to expect Belichick’s defense to hold in 4th quarters when needed is like to expect Brady to fail putting offense in FG range to win with 2 minutes left. (how can such a coach be a defensive genius is beyond my understanding, care to explain?)

  47. No one ever tried to take credits away from Aaron Rodgers for his sole SB win, even though he played like a garbage against Bears in NFCCG.
    ==========

    The offense absolutely dominated the first half of that game. It was like 3-to-1 yards and time of possession.

    As always, Lovie made adjustments. That defense always gave Rodgers fits.

  48. Don’t bring up the games against Colts, because EVERY good defense in playoff was able to stop Peyton.
    ==========

    Really?

    The record shows he won 14 post-season games……

  49. (how can such a coach be a defensive genius is beyond my understanding, care to explain?)
    ==========

    9 Super Bowls
    6 Championships
    12 and 8 if you count his time as an assistant

    No coach in NFL history has a resume like that.

    Denial. Not just a river in Egypt anymore.

  50. The offense absolutely dominated the first half of that game.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Jan 18th 2004, AFCCG, Patriots vs Colts
    First 3 drives by Brady’s offense : 65 yards, 67 yards, 52 yards

    Jan 16th, 2005, divisional round, Patriots vs Colts
    Scoring drives : 78 yards (3 pts), 48 yards (3 pts), 87 yards (7 pts), 94 yards (7 pts)

    They were won by offense, not defense.

  51. It will be super super funny if 49ers win a SB with Brock Purdy, even if just making to SB.

    What will Belichick believers say? Kyle Shanahan is a genius? Kyle Shanahan has developed Brock Purdy?

  52. If Kyle Shanahan had signed Brady, I have a pretty good idea what you would be saying about him.

  53. Did I ever claim Brady made Bruce Arian? No, I never did that, because Bruce Arian put enough talents around Brady to do what Bucs needed from Brady.

    Did BeliCHEAP ever do it? NEVER. That, is the point that the fans of the garbage have tried very hard to ignore.

  54. Tom Brady has a losing record when Belichick or Arians is not his coach.

    He is also not even .100 in his last 12 games without Gronk when his team’s opponent scores less than 17 points.

    Those are facts and there is nothing else that needs to be added. Not the GOAT not even close. Wouldn’t put him in the top ten.

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