SoFi Stadium gets an ‘F’ for its performance in the rain

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After Super Bowl XLI, Miami fell out of the rotation after a driving rain made the experience less than ideal for the high rollers in attendance. At a time when it’s widely presumed that SoFi Stadium in Los Angeles will host the NFL’s championship game every four or five years, Monday night’s NCAA championship becomes a red flag.

It rained in Los Angeles on Monday night, contrary to the meteorological skills of noted composer Albert Hammond. And even though Stan Kroenke’s multibillion-dollar venue has a roof, it’s not a dome. There are gaps. And when the rain blowed sideways, people got wet.

Far more importantly, when people walked on surfaces covered in rainwater, they slipped. Some got injured.

That part is astounding. It represents a failure of imagination for the engineers and lawyers, who should have ensured that any surfaces that could become wet would have a non-slip surface.

It’s inexcusable, frankly. Especially since the facility relies on people showing up for events there. Basic safety measures are a must, and SoFi Stadium obviously bears responsibility for every injury that occurred.

Kroenke also should immediately order a full study to be conducted of all surfaces on which human beings may be walking. If a new covering is needed to minimize the possibility of slipping and falling, it should be selected and implemented as soon as possible.

Beyond the liability and customer-service realities, it’s a basic matter of right and wrong.

And he’s one thing I’m sure we’re right about: All surfaces on the deck of Kroenke’s superyacht definitely have a non-slip coating.

39 responses to “SoFi Stadium gets an ‘F’ for its performance in the rain

  1. It’s basically a huge hole in the ground with a sort-of lid over top of it and the sides that are exposed, open. I’ve always wondered how it would do in less than ideal SoCal weather and now we know.

  2. Putting non-slip surface on after the fact looks bad for defense again anyone suing now. I would think any such changes will be done pretty quietly.

  3. I’ve been to 3 games at SOFI including the last SuperBowl, it is a 5 billion dollar disaster in many ways, particularly for VIP seats. Hard Rock Stadium in South Florida and Mercedes Benz in Atlanta are much better experiences. (Allegiant is just ok too)

  4. I work in the AEC industry (Architectural, Engineering, Construction). You can use a grinding machine to scar the surfaces of the smooth concrete to bring it to a rough surface. That’d be much cheaper than trying to add some type of covering over the concrete. The real problems will come if the contractor did not ensure enough clear cover between the top of the rebars and the top of concrete. Scarring the surface 1/8 of an inch shouldn’t be a problem. I’ve seen this exact scenario come into play on several high school projects where the architects want polished concrete at entry ways to large gymnasiums. They seem to think a walk off mat (a rug) is enough. The entire area will need to be roughened to a non-slip surface.

  5. “Putting non-slip surface on after the fact looks bad for defense against anyone suing now.” On the flip-side, if they don’t do anything after people have already gotten injured, it becomes gross negligence. Legally speaking, they’ll be better off publicly making a fix.

  6. You cited Albert Hammond but seems Warren Zevon is more in order (LGM) to clear this mess up.

  7. Pretty terrible stadium design. It not only allows water in when it rains, but there is also no air conditioning, so it gets ridiculously hot inside when it’s hot outside. How any engineer thought this design was a good idea in southern California is baffling.

  8. There hasn’t been one good thing about this move to LA. A great football city in St. Louis got robbed. Then it costs the NFL money to remedy that. They spent all this money on a stadium that has so many flaws. They tried to generate interest in the city by literally rigging the Super Bowl for them in that same stadium. It’s just beyond ridiculous at this point.

  9. LOL. It’s not just SoFi. All of the SoCal infrastructure is based on the premise that it will never rain.

  10. Under rules of evidence remedial measures are inadmissible to prove negligence. Otherwise no one would ever fix a dangerous condition.

  11. Much as I dislike Kroenke, I have no problems with that stadium. Open air (to the sides), not some giant air conditioned box. Yes, that means that sometimes it will be hot, sometimes it will be cold, sometimes it will be wet. So what? Most other teams play in the weather; SoFi gets some weather, but is shielded from much of it and feels fresh and open most of the time. For sure the surfaces need to be ground to make them more grippy, but otherwise no need to change anything.

  12. It’s a matter of right or wrong. Are we really confident this guy will do the right thing?

  13. I love the comments on the Twit that it was “cold”. 57 degrees, and they say “cold”.

  14. I have a friend who works for Kruger Industrial Smoothing who did the finishing work for the surfaces there. Is there a problem?

  15. The stadium in Miami isn’t completely covered either but rain never seems to be a major issue anymore – extreme heat from direct sunlight on opposing sideline is another matter though.

  16. I’m gonna provide you lawyer wannabes with some actual edification involving possible changes to So-Fi’s slippery walking surface now: Fed Rule of Evidence 407 (Subsequent Remedial Measures) prevents injured people from using the after the fact changes as proof of negligence at the time of the incident at issue.

    You’re all welcome.

  17. buzzw says:
    January 10, 2023 at 12:33 pm
    I’ve been to 3 games at SOFI including the last SuperBowl, it is a 5 billion dollar disaster in many ways, particularly for VIP seats. Hard Rock Stadium in South Florida and Mercedes Benz in Atlanta are much better experiences. (Allegiant is just ok too)

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    You love to see it. We know stadiums will continue to get less normal-fan-friendly in favor of those in the “VIP Seats,” so it at least warms my heart to hear that some of those “VIPs” consider a new stadium a disaster for them.

  18. This is the coveted Walmart slip and fall scam, just on a grander scale. Trial lawyers are salivating as I type

  19. “A great football city in St. Louis got robbed.” Really? They’ve lost two teams in the past, what, 30 years? Not exactly a ringing endorsement of football fanaticism, is it?

  20. California environmentalist wackos probably demanded no HVAC in SOFI stadium, then they probably cited birds nests that cannot be disturbed, which is why rain comes through the roof.

  21. Mortifying. To think the SB was played there and the owners loaned money for Kroenke to build this to share with another team.

    Disgusting.

  22. While Subsequent Remedial Measures can not be used as proof of negligence, one can introduce inspections conducted before the remediation was performed and have an expert opine that the original design was flawed and that the dangerous condition was avoidable by technology that existed and was available at the time of construction.

  23. If Kronke thought that St. Louis got into his wallet for moving the Rams to LA, just wait until the lawyers clean his clock over this incident.

  24. First the Boy Wonder prepares to bail, and now the new stadium is a glorified $5 billion tent (lets in the rain, and no insulation from the cold). Couldn’t happen to a better team owner

  25. While Stan Kroenke has people check the surfaces people walk on there, he should also replace the artificial surface athletes play football on there with grass.

  26. While Stan Kroenke has people check the surfaces people walk on there, he should also replace the artificial surface athletes play football on with grass.

  27. “Putting non-slip surface on after the fact looks bad for defense again anyone suing now. I would think any such changes will be done pretty quietly.”

    Wrong.

    Making something more safe is not relevant evidence to show prior conditions were unsafe or to show negligence. Safety improvements after a claim do nothing to prove claim validity and are not admissible in negligence cases.

  28. “…That part is astounding. It represents a failure of imagination for the engineers and lawyers, who should have ensured that any surfaces that could become wet would have a non-slip surface…”

    It’s pretty baffling that you’d spend $5+ billion on something like this without considering what might happen with heavy rain.

  29. Anyone who has lived in LA knows it rains. And it rains hard at times. Obviously Stan the man should’ve asked Elon to drill some tunnels into the ground to chill the air. Can’t believe there is no A/C.

  30. The stadium is nice. Anyone who has been in Sofi when it rains, knows you may get wet. People here in LA lose their minds in the rain. It is what it is. How much alcohol did these people have in their systems? Which human being is unaware of the concept or has never heard of or seen a sign that floor surfaces are “slippery when wet”? I was in Sofi in December, no issues whatsoever, except for the untrained ticket ushers. If there were no “roof” and it as raining, and you got wet, would you also be complaining?

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