Sean Payton is doing a great job of generating interest, leverage

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Three of the five teams that have coaching vacancies have received permission to interview former Saints coach Sean Payton. And that’s very good, for both Payton and the Saints.

It’s the coaching equivalent of the Deshaun Watson trade. The Saints wouldn’t be granting permission to the Broncos, Cardinals, and Saints without a loose understanding as to what it would take to acquire his rights. And if Payton can in turn create a sense of competition for his services, his price will go higher and higher and higher — especially since there’s no salary cap for coaches.

The situation quite possibly will drive the league office batty, given that it pushes the balance of power back toward the league’s coaches. Or at least toward the best of them. The best of the best should be paid more than they get. The best of the best are also worth the first-round pick or whatever else it will take to get him.

A great coach can make a huge difference for a team. Payton has proven to be a great coach. Brilliant, creative, works hard and works smart. Gets results. Makes the most out of the guys he has.

He’s now potentially making the most out of his opportunity to find a new team. And more quite possibly will be interested.

The Cowboys have pursued him in the past. The Cowboys supposedly are sticking with coach Mike McCarthy, no matter what.

But what if Cowboys owner Jerry Jones suddenly faces the prospect of having Payton down the road in Houston, turning around the Texans? That could be the thing that gets Jerry to pivot from McCarthy to Payton. To speak now or forever hold his peace. To finish the job that he started four years ago.

Yes, this one is interesting. And it could get a lot more interesting in the coming days and weeks. Especially if the Cowboys lose on Monday night.

66 responses to “Sean Payton is doing a great job of generating interest, leverage

  1. It’s called desperation. So far, the organizations who are talking to him are horrendously run.

  2. If the Cowboys were smart they would bring in Payton. Cowboys have a great roster and you can win with Dak. Plus being an NFC team should help, why take an AFC job and have to have Mahomes, Burrow, Allen, Herbert, Lawrence and Lamar if he stays in the playoffs every year. He should take Cowboys or Cardinals job, Cowboys are built we win now.

  3. 2-7-2010 Payton won a Superbowl Nearly 13 years ago. Since then a lot of very mediocre years. I don’t get all the fuss about this guy. Sure don’t get the $15-20 Mil a Year talk in regards to his compensation. Why?

  4. Payton has an aversion to knuckleheads, (whether it be owners or players) which is why he won’t go to to AZ and Murray. He’s not afraid of a rebuild, having done an all timer in a city gutted by a natural disaster that left over 1,000 dead, and taking over a 3-13 team with a QB that could barely throw 10 yards in his first preseason game.

    He knows Jerry Jones very well, having worked for him previously as an assistant to Parcells. Jones comes across like a kook sometimes, but unless he is getting senile, he actually is a really good businessman and knows some football (having himself started for a national champion in college) If the Cowboys poop the bed against Tampa Bay, Payton will never have more leverage to get the terms, pay package, and staff he wants. My second guess is LA – or maybe a return to the Saints (Mickey Loomis has been noticeably quiet about Dennis Allen’s future). The wildcard in this is his wife – it is rumored that one of the reasons he resigned was that his wife was concerned about the crime in New Orleans.

  5. The best of the best should be paid more than they get.
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    Really? You get what someone is willing to pay you. If you don’t like the offer, go elsewhere and you’ll be offered what the next someone will pay you.

  6. Why haven’t we been calling Sean Payton the GOAT all these years? Belichick and Payton both had legit unanimous first ballot HOF elite franchise QB’s for about twenty years. I mean these were two of the greatest QB’s of all time. Brees and Brady. Belichick won six super bowls, while Payton only managed to win one. But now we see Belichick can’t win without the elite QB. If we’re expecting Payton to be able to do what the GOAT can’t do, why aren’t we calling Payton the GOAT? Seriously, isn’t that insanity? Yet we’re on here every day criticizing others. Amazing.

  7. Had a Hall of Fame QB and won one Super Bowl. Not saying he’s a bad coach, but I think you’re overestimating his ability.

  8. Hmmm proven great? makes the most out of guys he has? How many Super Bowls was that again with a first ballot HOF QB?
    Just the one, which had some serious taint to it? Yeeeeeeah so…

  9. “The Saints wouldn’t be granting permission to the Broncos, Cardinals, and Saints”

    The Saints granted permission to themselves?

  10. Sean Payton is not the best of the best. Let’s see him rebuild a team and win a SB. He had Brees, a good defense and lots of talent on offense and won one SB.

  11. Just like Belechik “great” coaches cheat pften and sometimes get caught, but win at any cost os the name of the game

  12. As a Saints fan, I could care less where he goes (other than in the division) as long as the Saints get the best deal for themselves. FYI people, the Saints will start with NOTHING LESS than 1ST ROUND PICK plus. Anyone that thinks that the Saints will take ANYTHING less than that doesn’t know what they are talking about.

  13. No way i’d give up a 1st round pick for this guy. Other than the Super Bowl year his record in the playoffs is 6-8. Given that he had Drew Brees and some pretty good talent for virtually all 15 years he coached, his record isn’t that impressive. And the notion he’s worth more that a 1st round pick is straight up insane.

  14. “The situation quite possibly will drive the league office batty”. Come on Mike! What the heck does that have to do with it. Your hate for the NFL continues….

  15. Sean Payton has the same amount of Super Bowl rings as Jon Gruden. I think Payton’s next stint will mirror Gruden’s (sans faux controversy).

  16. Some owner will give up picks and a big pile of guaranteed money. That owner will regret it. I hope he ends up in Dallas.

  17. One SB with Brees, multiple below .500 seasons, one year suspension, and “retired” as soon as the team was in cap hell and no franchise QB.

    But by all means, worth 20M+ a year.

  18. I could see both Peyton and Brady moving to LA if Sean leaves and Stafford retires. I could also see only Peyton going to LA and Brady going to LV or SF. Harbaugh to AZ might work and he gets to exact some revenge on Jed. The rest of the teams don’t really matter. If the Cowboys are humilated in Tampa, Peyton could land there, as has been suggested.

  19. “The Saints wouldn’t be granting permission to the Broncos, Cardinals, and Saints without a loose understanding as to what it would take to acquire his rights. “

    Hey Florio, let us all know what you think the Saints would have to give in a trade to acquire Payton from the Saints.

  20. logicalone says:
    January 11, 2023 at 8:33 pm
    Sean Payton is not the best of the best. Let’s see him rebuild a team and win a SB. He had Brees, a good defense and lots of talent on offense and won one SB.

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    Such a lazy argument.

  21. ozzman64 says:
    January 11, 2023 at 8:36 pm
    As a Saints fan, I could care less where he goes (other than in the division) as long as the Saints get the best deal for themselves. FYI people, the Saints will start with NOTHING LESS than 1ST ROUND PICK plus. Anyone that thinks that the Saints will take ANYTHING less than that doesn’t know what they are talking about.
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    I guess you know Gayle Benson and she told you what the minimum is. I’d say the Saints would want Payton on an AFC team and whichever offers the most in trade value. Can you also tell us who the Saints are going to place at the top of their draft board and what free agents they plan to Perdue?

  22. Seems to me lately the “great” coaches has “great” skill players QBS or O-D lines yadda yadda yadda …. take all that away n well ya got average to pretty bad .. lets see him go to a place like Houston with all those draft picks n actually build a team .. going to a place like Dallas which is rather already stacked smells more like hitching a ride and taking advantage of someone else’s work .. and I just see him as a guy who skipped out on the Saints when it all caved in and was time to go into the tank !! .. but time will tell and the end of next year and where he eventually goes.

  23. Anyone know if Drew Brees is still in Nola? He would make a killer Offensive Coordinator with any QB! I’m surprised he hasn’t moved into a coaching position in the NFL

  24. As other commenters have said, it’s hard to understand why teams are foaming at the mouth to hire Payton. Mike McCarthy (for example) has won a Super Bowl more recently, and has a similar career winning percentage (despite fewer years of having a HoF QB), but no one seems to think he’d be a great catch if/when the Cowboys let him go.

  25. I would like to see Rex Ryan go to the Cowboys if Quinn gets a HC job. As for Sean Payton let him stay in the studios until he is not under contract with the Saints, no sense in selling your franchise by giving up what they will be asking when you can have him shortly for not near as much.

  26. He’s doing a better job of generating interest than his actual job of coaching after the Super Bowl win.
    So much talk for someone so middling…

  27. “Generating”? Or maybe just a really good coach who some teams should fire their Current head coach and go after.

  28. He was only good when he had Drew Brees, when Drew Brees retired they started going downhill and he wanted out

  29. logicalone says:
    January 11, 2023 at 8:33 pm
    Sean Payton is not the best of the best. Let’s see him rebuild a team and win a SB. He had Brees, a good defense and lots of talent on offense and won one SB.

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    As opposed to the team he took over in 2006 that had won one playoff game in its history, was 3-13 in 2005, signed a QB with a broken shoulder that couldn’t throw 10 yards that no one wanted, and whose home city was gutted by the greatest natural disaster to hit a US city in the previous hundred years and left over 1,000 dead five months before he arrived.

    Or did you have another definition of rebuild??

  30. Payton will sign with a team with seasoned veterans like had in New Orleans. What quarterback did he develop other than Brees. He almost changed Winston but Winston got hurt last year. Without Payton around Winston turn back to Bucs Winston. I think if Payton signs that particular team will have a seasoned veteran at quarterback. Payton isn’t a rookie quarterback developer. The only fit I see is the Rams with Stafford/Mayfield. I wouldn’t be surprised if he replaced McVey.

  31. I’m with the others in the comments–super overrated. Rode a HOF’er to one SB and ditched the team right when it was at its lowest. Super convenient he is back now. Someone will overpay, however. It happens every year.

  32. Here’s worth whatever he gets.
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    Gruden got $100 million. Was he “worth it”?

  33. Media hype machine.
    Payton has won a grand total of one Super Bowl. Why is he so brilliant?? Seriously??

  34. If the Cowboys were smart, they’d hang onto McCarthy, who essentially has the same record as Payton. So Florio must have a low bar for greatness if one Super Bowl and two NFC title games In 15 years with a Hall of Fame quarterback is all it takes to be called great.

  35. There was nothing better than watching the refs explain the rules to Kliff Kingsbury during games. “You see, when your offensive linemen move before the snap, that’s called a false start. There’s a 5-yard penalty for that”

  36. Why couldn’t he just show up in NO and say “I’m back” and force them to release his rights?

  37. If this isn’t just a Jerry Jones disguised tampering caper why did he leave the Saints in the first place?

  38. touchback6 says:
    January 11, 2023 at 8:07 pm
    It’s called desperation. So far, the organizations who are talking to him are horrendously run.

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    Its because the well run ones don’t need to replace the people already running them.

  39. mrmota says:
    January 11, 2023 at 8:55 pm
    “The situation quite possibly will drive the league office batty”. Come on Mike! What the heck does that have to do with it. Your hate for the NFL continues….

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    I think in this case he is right though. What this situation is representing is a shift in negotiating power tothe coaches. The League office does not like that for coaches or players. They want to keep the negotiating power with the teams and owners.

  40. It strikes me that if you are a coach who has had a team give up a first round pick to obtain the right to hire you, then you are about to take over a team that is short a first round pick along with whatever issues got the orevious guy fired.

  41. 2 things. One Payton is overrated. Very good coach but in reality his record beyond the SB with Brees is not much better than many other coaches including MM in Dallas.

    Two, why do Patriots fans think everything has something to do with them and why are they so insecure and pitiful they have to bring up the fake genius BB every time they comment? He has steadily proven what the smart folks always knew, he can’t draft, is just another coach for the most part and only has an talent for defense.

  42. You people are nuts.

    He was coach of the year last year, almost making the playoffs with a monster defense and literally nothing else.

  43. Maybe he can do a better job of keeping the bounty under wraps this time around. ’09 was a fraud and every coach and player involved got to stick around, collect paychecks, and ride off into the sunset after putting a hit out on opposing players. Ya know, the kind of thing people go to jail for outside a football field.

  44. He chokes and over coaches himself all the time. Trust me I’m a Saints fan. We should’ve won several SB’s with some of the teams we’ve had while under Sean Payton. I’m glad he’s gone but still rather anyone over Dennis Allen.

  45. Big deal…have you looked at the other candidates? Nothing to special out there…just a bunch of retreads as usual.

    Would LOVE to see a team interview Urban Meyer just to mix things up a bit 🙂

  46. Just get us some picks you quitter.

    The only other thing that I want besides picka is trade for taysom and take that utterly stupid contract with you.

  47. I honestly do not get the obsession with Sean Payton. Outside of the SB year his teams never had more than 1 playoff win in a season. 6 playoff wins total in the 14 years outside the SB year. He has one less playoff win than Mike McCarthy and one less NFC title game appearance than McCarthy. Both coaches should’ve had more than 1 SB win with HOF QB. Oddly there are a lot of Cowboys fans who think Payton should replace McCarthey yet they are pretty much the same HC. Payton is 152-89 (9-8 playoffs), McCarthy is 155-99 (10-9 playoffs). If McCarthy is fired, are teams lining up for him to be their HC? Doubtful. They really were not lined up after GB fired him.

  48. At the end of the day cash is king and jerruh will break the piggy bank but there’s no way payton puts up with the general manager extraordinare .

  49. If the Cowboys were smart they would bring in Payton.
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    Until Jerry steps out of the picture they’re never going to have an A-list coach who has tons of other options. Guys like Payton will demand full control and Jerry will never allow that. Check out all the league’s top coaches and see how many have owners doing interviews several times a week giving out all sorts of internal info and hot-takes. Nobody with multiple job options wants that.

  50. I think people are giving Payton too much credit for “rebuilding” the Saints and underestimating the job Mickey Loomis did as the GM. Payton is a good coach but not a great one.

  51. This guy is way overrated as a coach. No way he deserves a big contract. 1 Super Bowl is the same as a lot of coaches and nobody is asking them for an interview.

  52. tyreehelmetcatch says:
    January 12, 2023 at 9:33 am
    At the end of the day cash is king and jerruh will break the piggy bank but there’s no way payton puts up with the general manager extraordinare .

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    The Walton family could buy Jerry Jones.

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