Derek Carr should refuse to accept a trade by the Raiders

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From the moment the Raiders benched quarterback Derek Carr with two games to play in the 2022 regular season, it became clear that they did it to avoid owing him $40.4 million as of February 15, the third day of the 2023 waiver period.

Carr won’t be back. We already knew it. On Thursday, he said so.

The question now becomes whether he’ll be traded or released. The answer should be easy. Carr should be released, after making it clear to the team that he’ll do nothing to cooperate with any effort to trade him.

He has a no-trade clause. If they ask him before February 15 whether he’ll waive it, he should refuse to do so. Actually, he should refuse to even answer the question.

Why would he want to be traded? Some would say that’s the only way he’ll get his $40.4 million in guarantees. But that’s wrong. Any team that would assume Carr’s contract and give the Raiders value for it would pay Carr at least that much as a free agent. A new team would pay him more if they didn’t have to send a draft pick or a player or both or whatever to get Carr.

Some would say Carr will cooperate with the Raiders, that there’s no bad blood. First, there’s definitely bad blood. They’re dumping him, after he made it clear he never wanted to play for any other team.

Second, and more importantly, it’s regarded as bad form for a team to cut a player before the vesting of guarantees that become due in the days after the commencement of the annual waiver period. That’s a device aimed at managing the funding rule and the escrow requirement. If/when the moment of vesting will be used as an opportunity by the team to decide whether to keep or cut the player, the deadline comes in the days after the start of the league year.

Really, why would Carr have replaced the last year of his latest contract with a raise of roughly $5 million for 2022 if he didn’t think the team would keep him for 2023 and 2024?

As it stands, the team has the right to cut him before the 2023 and 2024 guarantees become due — and he has the right to insist on being cut.

He should. It’s simple. It’s clear. It’s obvious. If he doesn’t do it, he’d be doing the team a favor that few if any teams ever do for any of their players.

That said, Carr could go along with the effort to trade him for now, if only to give his agent a head start on gauging the market, once Carr is released. However it plays out, Carr should never agree to a trade.

Worst-case scenario? The Raiders would keep him and owe him $40.4 million. And they won’t. He’ll be free, a month before the unrestricted free agents become available.

46 responses to “Derek Carr should refuse to accept a trade by the Raiders

  1. No team will trade for him with that contract. I also doubt he will get $40 million on the open market. Surprised that Florio thinks he will get more than that.

  2. If Carr assessed the open market, and he would get less than his planned 2023 salary, wouldn’t it benefit him to assist in the trade?

  3. They gave up on him before season ended, no reason to work it out. Raiders made the business decision to bench, now Carr’s business decision is to get released and play where he wants.

  4. Derek still loves his teammates and the fans and he’s religious he’s not looking to stick it to anybody.

  5. If he wants less money. No one is paying him that on the free market. It might be a moot point though since no one is trading for him and paying that either.

  6. This is business, and it shows what an agent does. This “vest on” date is set to favor the player. He will be out there, and be the top sub 40 free agent QB. He should get a chance to pick his own team. If I were his agent, I would make it known quietly that he is not going to waive his no trade clause. Teams then know to deal with the player not the team.

  7. jjfootball says:
    January 12, 2023 at 1:36 pm
    Derek still loves his teammates and the fans and he’s religious he’s not looking to stick it to anybody.
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    It’s not a religious/moral issue. It’s the structure of how things work. The reality is that the Raiders are asking him to continue his career with someone else. His loyalties should lay with that future team. If they have to give up compensation (draft picks) for him, they will be worse off. Why would he “stick it” to his new team?

  8. great production put into words only Florio can create…..but that aside…looks like Carr has the Raiders by the short hairs…

  9. jjfootball says:
    January 12, 2023 at 1:36 pm
    Derek still loves his teammates and the fans and he’s religious he’s not looking to stick it to anybody.
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    How does looking out for one’s own best interest & that of his family that causes no harm to others have anything to do with how he should best proceed or take into account any of the above points you listed….. he needs to make the absolute best business decision he can make to HELP ensure stability throughout his children’s lifetime if possible

  10. For some reason I think it’s Carr and a midround pick for Lance with SF.

    Then Vegas signs Jimmy G to be the starter until Lance is healthy. McDaniels gets a qb he is familiar with along with a “5 star athlete” Vegas can use as their franchise qb for 5-10 years

  11. He’ll make more in guarantees but nobody is giving this dude 40 million for one year of work.

  12. bigeasystyle says:
    January 12, 2023 at 1:30 pm
    No team will trade for him with that contract. I also doubt he will get $40 million on the open market. Surprised that Florio thinks he will get more than that.
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    Yes they would. Why would Carr not want to redo his contract to get some guaranteed money in exchange for lowering the current $40 mil hit?

  13. He should definitely force them to cut him. While he’s not a superstar he’s still an upgrade for about a dozen teams in the league.

    Why handicap his next destination with the loss of picks and prevent his agent from negotiating the best possible deal?

  14. Whatever the terms of the contract are, both parties should honor it. If something has changed by one party, the contract should be voided. But we should not have someone who has routinely lied here on this site dictate what should or should not happen.

  15. You do as Garaappolo did – as a pro. There’s no point in anything more like playing poker.

    If they ask him what teams he wants to be traded to – he just answers, I’m not thinking about that right now.

    If they waive him. he says thanks for the memories. Why waste. time on anything negative. (plus the better you forget Mark Davis’ haircut the faster the better).

    If by some weird circumstance, they don’t waive him. He’ll collect $40mm for doing nothing just like Garapolo didn’t put when they basically refused to let him even practice, he was smart. WHATEVER. (as long as the check clears …)

  16. Get him a line he can feel comfortable in and his is the most accurate QB in the league!!!!

  17. He’s the best available QB out there. He will get paid. Plus – the league knows how good he can be when he’s not coached by Josh McDaniels.

  18. As long as he’s gone I don’t care if we get nothing for him. That 40 million in savings is enough for me. He should be grateful to the Raiders. Any other team would have held him to some sort of accountability over the last nine years with nothing to show for it. He always got a free pass for throwing it away on 4th down, constantly checking down on third and long, having no escapability, staring down receivers…Good Riddance!

  19. He hasn’t done a ton but anyone saying he wouldn’t get paid on the open market haven’t been watching some of this terrible QB play. Think of what the Commanders, Jets, Dolphins, Ravens, Colts, 49ers etc etc could do with him. QB’s are getting $40mil per year easy and paying him 2 years $50 mil for a win now team is absolutely nothing. Who else are these win now teams going to sign….Dalton, Marriota?

  20. There’s also the competitive factor that his new team would have less draft capital to build around him if he accepted a trade. Why would he do that to help the team that just gave up on him?

  21. he’s not looking to stick it to anybody.
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    They have a deal in place AND the Raiders aren’t going to go out of business honoring the deal. He wouldn’t be sticking it to them in any sense at all. Like when your landlord wants the rent on time is he “sticking it to you”?

  22. So the millions that Carr has made from the Raiders was not a favor to a midlevel at best QB? Carr is a cardboard cutout that stands in place & throws into the dirt.

  23. It depends on what carr can make on the open market.

    If his current contract is more than he could make if he was cut then he should accept the trade, provided its somewhere he wants to go.

  24. Who else is available plays into how much he might make. Don’t know which other QBs will be released/not resigned until after the playoffs, etc. Doubt someone gives him $40 mil for next year like the Raiders must, but I’m always surprised at how much teams dump into QB position.

  25. He’s going to have to find a balance between going to the right situation and maxing out his salary. I don’t see him making $40M next year with anyone, so trying to get traded and at least guarantee himself that money is the best way to maximize his money, but I assume he’s thinking long term and also probably wants to win some games to show the Raiders it wasn’t his fault.

  26. Raiders should hold him – let the guarantee kick in and trade him then. The team takes on the guarantee no? And they can offer to pay some of next years salary. Carr is not going to settle to be a backup on the Raiders he’ll ok any trade to be a starter.

  27. Business is business, he failed to perform with great tools regardless of the circumstances, time to move on with a trade for the good of everyone. If Gruden hadn’t been targeted and maliciously attacked to get him out, things probably would have worked out differently, that’s the NFL.

  28. I think he would be a nice upgrade on the Texan’s. We have a solid RB, the O-lime is decent, and we can use the draft picks to get a WR or 2, and upgrade where needed!

  29. LiLcommentJom says:
    January 12, 2023 at 2:12 pm
    He hasn’t done a ton but anyone saying he wouldn’t get paid on the open market haven’t been watching some of this terrible QB play. Think of what the Commanders, Jets, Dolphins, Ravens, Colts, 49ers etc etc could do with him. QB’s are getting $40mil per year easy and paying him 2 years $50 mil for a win now team is absolutely nothing. Who else are these win now teams going to sign….Dalton, Marriota?
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    Tom Brady, Lamar Jackson, Jimmy Garoppolo. Depending on those 3, possibly Tua Tagovailoa. That is 4 names Id take before Carr. Teams looking to upgrade at the QB position will make moves, creating more free agent QBs. What if the Titans get rid of Tannehill for one of the big names? Tannehill is now a 5th name ahead of Carr.

  30. Dan Oregon says:
    January 12, 2023 at 2:10 pm
    He’s the best available QB out there. He will get paid. Plus – the league knows how good he can be when he’s not coached by Josh McDaniels.

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    Carr shows flashes of brilliance and then baffles you with poor choices, fumbles and interceptions. He’s done it for every coach, every year. Just when you think he’s doing well he’ll fumble a few times and throw three picks.

    Good luck with this.

    And, it’s not all on the defense. There is only so much a defense can do when the QB turns the ball over or goes 3 and out over and o0ver.The defense does not play QB. The coach does not play QB. Carr does and he has failed.

  31. Also, why would Carr want to go to a team that has diminished draft picks because they traded for him – therefore guaranteeing a weaker supporting cast?

  32. not sure I agree with that

    why show everyone you are difficult to deal with

    play along with the Raiders but don’t agree to anything that negatively affects your pocketbook

    keep up appearances – that would be the smart play

  33. “It depends on what carr can make on the open market.

    If his current contract is more than he could make if he was cut then he should accept the trade, provided its somewhere he wants to go.”

    If nobody is willing to pay him his current salary in the open market nobody is going to give a draft pick AND pay that salary in a trade. Get it?

    Anybody that would pay for it and give a draft pick would pay more to not include the draft pick. Florio is 100% correct.

  34. Carr isn’t wired that way. He’ll do what’s best for himself and his family. He’s not out to spite anybody. That’s just a lot of wasted energy. He’s going to want to turn the page as quickly as possible, and get his family settled in. If they’re moving, I’m sure his wife is anxious to start making plans. Being in limbo can be unsettling. I’m sure Derek’s new team would like to see he’s 100% focused on his new team. There’s a lot of positive motivation for Carr to want to get a deal done asap. Nobody wants to sit around stressing and playing the blame game. Derek has plenty of money. He could still decide to retire. He can work in TV. He doesn’t have to work. He can do whatever he wants to do. I’ve seen Jim Plunkett and Tom Flores doing Raiders’ broadcasts. Once a Raider, always a Raider!

  35. Autumn Wind says:
    January 12, 2023 at 2:52 pm
    Raiders should hold him – let the guarantee kick in and trade him then. The team takes on the guarantee no? And they can offer to pay some of next years salary. Carr is not going to settle to be a backup on the Raiders he’ll ok any trade to be a starter.
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    Agreed. No way the Raiders let Carr walk without compensation. They will keep him for another year before letting him walk. The 49ers showed that this year with Jimmy G and it worked well. It will have to be a win for Carr, the Raiders — and the new team. Best way to do this is to couple Carr with other top players into a bigger trade. Carr would be set up to compete, the new team would have a better offense immediately and the Raiders would be loaded with draft picks. Everyone wins.

  36. fantasyfootballstud says:
    January 12, 2023 at 3:16 pm
    I think he would be a nice upgrade on the Texan’s. We have a solid RB, the O-lime is decent, and we can use the draft picks to get a WR or 2, and upgrade where needed!
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    The Texans are on a death march towards rebuilding. With annual coaching changes, this will take a decade! Time to be BOLD. Go big or go home with this Raiders trade idea. Go get Derek Carr, Darren Waller, Josh Jacobs (tag & trade), Hunter Renfrow, Andre James – help the D with Chandler Jones. Eff them picks. With one side of the ball now ready to compete, maybe we can attract a REAL coach. Hire HC Vic Fangio to fix the D and convince Gruden to settle with the NFL and come be our OC and to coach his boys again. Everyone wins. We got plenty of picks McNair. LFG! Make this happen!

  37. a great take on this Florio, and yes, DA had to be on board with it.. but whats not being talked about is what it would take for Rogers to come to the Raiders, more expensive than Brady, but also more up side..

  38. If Derek likes a team, of course he shouldn’t refuse a deal. The Raiders gave Derek everything. A business decision was made. Of course feelings are hurt but there is no need for anyone to be salty.

  39. No team that knows what it’s doing will trade for Carr. The Raiders have to ge the deal done 3 days after the Superbowl and any team that agree’s(it would be a handshake deal) can back out before the league year starts in March. So essentially the Raiders would be on the hook for $40 million if someone backs out within a months time.

    That’s a no win situation for the Raiders, so just release him and let him broker his own deal.

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