Saints say Cardinals, Texans, Broncos are “well aware” of compensation for Sean Payton

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Three teams have been given permission by the Saints to interview Sean Payton to be their next head coach, and those three teams know that kind of compensation the Saints will demand to hire Payton.

That’s the word from Saints General Manager Mickey Loomis, who said today that those three teams are the only ones that have sought permission to speak to Payton, and all three were given that permission only after the Saints made clear that they’re not giving Payton away.

“We haven’t settled on exactly what the compensation is going to be yet, but they’re well aware that there is going to be compensation,” Loomis said.

Loomis said he hasn’t offered a specific price for Payton because different teams have different combinations of draft picks that they’d be able to send the Saints.

“It’s going to be different for every team because they have different picks and different things available to them,” Loomis said. “They have to get our permission to have a discussion with him, and then we have to have the compensation settled before they can actually hire him.”

The Saints are in rough salary cap shape this year and don’t have a first-round pick. It’s going to be tough for them to rebuild their roster, but draft picks for Payton would be helpful, and it would benefit the Saints if one of those other teams hires him.

36 responses to “Saints say Cardinals, Texans, Broncos are “well aware” of compensation for Sean Payton

  1. This is something these teams need to think about carefully, and I don’t see it being brought up at all:

    If this somehow doesn’t pan out, not only have they given the Saints a veritable fortune, but now they’re on the hook for whatever the remainder of his contract would be that he eventually signs (which you know won’t be cheap).

    I’m aware Sean Payton is no Jeff Fisher, but we also have zero clue what he’s like without Brees.

  2. Loomis is aware that if he makes the compensation too high, then the teams may look elsewhere. In addition, if he can’t reach agreement on compensation, Payton can simply wait another year, when the compensation likely will be lower, or two years, when his contract with the Saints expires and no compensation will need to be provided. Payton is enjoying life – he’s getting a paycheck from FOX, has a new wife, owns homes in Idaho and New Orleans, and gets the benefits of SoCal without having to pay property taxes. Plus he can wait for the Cowboys or Rams jobs to become available if he chooses

  3. What if no team wants to meet the Saints asking price, but Payton really wants to coach again. Does he come out of retirement and force the Saints to fire their current head coach? How much leverage does Payton have in picking the team he wants to coach?

  4. I don’t think I’d ever trade for a coach, especially with a first round pick, or more.

  5. A two or three tops. SP isn’t even a current coach. The Saints need picks and you get nothing by keeping him under contract. The Cardinals don’t even have a GM at the moment.

  6. If they’re truly seeking at least a 1st then I’m not sure why they’d engage the Broncos.

  7. Well, they aren’t going to get much in the way of picks from the Broncos. They traded them all away for Wilson and now the only thing they have left is a late 1st rounder from the 49ers. Considering how the 49ers are playing that pick may end up being the 32nd.

  8. Quote: domefieldadvantage says:
    January 13, 2023 at 2:00 pm
    Loomis is aware that if he makes the compensation too high, then the teams may look elsewhere. In addition, if he can’t reach agreement on compensation, Payton can simply wait another year, when the compensation likely will be lower, or two years, when his contract with the Saints expires and no compensation will need to be provided. Payton is enjoying life – he’s getting a paycheck from FOX, has a new wife, owns homes in Idaho and New Orleans, and gets the benefits of SoCal without having to pay property taxes. Plus he can wait for the Cowboys or Rams jobs to become available if he chooses /End Quote

    That’s not how contracts work. If he hasn’t fulfilled his years they continue perpetually.

  9. One thing the NFL teaches is that compensation for moves that basically *have* to happen aren’t nearly what is expected. This isn’t the first round pick the Patriots gave the Jets for Belichick, back when draft picks weren’t quite so valuable and the Jets had *wanted* Belichick before he spurned them – Payton doesn’t want the Saints and they’ve moved on from him, so there isn’t really any room for a backtrack and thus the leverage isn’t there to make sky-high demands. The one caveat there is that nothing prevents a bidding war, and thus multiple teams involved could drive the price up if they don’t stick to a hard line. Then again, if/when Payton decides where he wants to go, that bidding would dry up pretty quickly. All of which says to me: 2023 second round pick.

  10. Andy Reed was thrown out the door by the Eagles….many of the same complaints…but all he did was win games. I’d love to have SP in AZ. I’d give up our 3rd which is at the top…so it’s a good pick. I wouldn’t touch our 1st or 2nd. I’d rather have Jim Harbaugh…his .695 win percentage is amazing and he turned the 9ers from losers to winners.

  11. The Broncos have a 1st this year, a 1st and 2nd next year, some good players to trade (like Simmons, Jeudy, Sutton, Surtain,) and a huge wad of cash. They can make a good offer if they decide it’s worth it.

  12. When the Raiders traded Gruden to the Bucs, they received two first-round picks, two second-round picks and $8 million.

    That should act as a precedent and a baseline for the start of negotiations.

  13. Texans: Franchise QB or Payton? That’s the question for them. Can’t have both in 2023.

  14. If Payton gets back into coaching, he’s going to have a pretty short list of teams he’d coach. He might be talking, but he’s not signing anything

  15. In this age of parity, where most teams have good players, the biggest difference is the coaches. I really don’t like Payton, but have to admit that he’s a good coach.

    Having said that, It would be funny if, just like with Russell Wilson, Denver mortgages their future and things don’t work out.

  16. andyreidsmustache says:

    January 13, 2023 at 1:57 pm

    This is something these teams need to think about carefully, and I don’t see it being brought up at all:

    If this somehow doesn’t pan out, not only have they given the Saints a veritable fortune, but now they’re on the hook for whatever the remainder of his contract would be that he eventually signs (which you know won’t be cheap).

    I’m aware Sean Payton is no Jeff Fisher, but we also have zero clue what he’s like without Brees
    ————-
    “We also have zero clue what he’s like without Brees” is blatantly false. Even taking away games Brees missed over the years Payton coached the year after Brees retired and went 9-8. So you may have zero clue but for everyone paying attn and every nfl decision maker they do have clue 🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️

  17. As if trade compensation for players wasn’t subjective enough, gauging the trade value of a coach against players (draft picks) seems like it won’t be easy finding a package both parties will agree upon even if there is precedence.

  18. bigeasystyle says:

    January 13, 2023 at 3:41 pm

    When the Raiders traded Gruden to the Bucs, they received two first-round picks, two second-round picks and $8 million.

    That should act as a precedent and a baseline for the start of negotiations.
    —————
    The Browns foolishly signed Watson to a fully guaranteed deal and set precedent but as shown with Lamar Jacksons negotiations that doesnt make it a baseline or a starting point. Just because someone overpays once, doesn’t mean everyone will just as well value and analysis changes over time. Your referencing something from 20 years ago where now the value that teams place on picks has changed.

  19. domefieldadvantage says:
    January 13, 2023 at 2:00 pm
    Loomis is aware that if he makes the compensation too high, then the teams may look elsewhere. In addition, if he can’t reach agreement on compensation, Payton can simply wait another year, when the compensation likely will be lower, or two years, when his contract with the Saints expires and no compensation will need to be provided. Payton is enjoying life – he’s getting a paycheck from FOX, has a new wife, owns homes in Idaho and New Orleans, and gets the benefits of SoCal without having to pay property taxes. Plus he can wait for the Cowboys or Rams jobs to become available if he chooses
    ———————-
    Please explain to us all how he owns a home in those states and doesn’t pay property tax.

  20. I get why teams hold rights but in todays game, seems like a better system can be made. If a player or coach sits out a full year while in a 2nd or 3rd contract, they should be able to move on. Its not like Peyton had to buy out his contract or got paid this year….

  21. The Broncos would be better served to save the compensation and offer Harbaugh 20 mil. Harbaugh has won at every stop. Payton had great success coaching Drew Brees, but even with Breese, was inconsistent. There were a few sub 500 season mixed in through there. Like a previous poster said, if he really wants to coach again n retire and make the Saints make a choice.

  22. Anyone who mentions Jon Gruden trade as a precedent should stop.
    The difference was the Buccaneers already had a stacked team. Trading those 2 first round picks was not going to hurt them.

    The teams requesting an interview for SP can not afford to give up a 1st round pick. At least not a current one.

  23. First, neither he or Harbough is going to Dallas, both of them will want power along with GM , Jerry is Boss 1, he aint giving that to nobody
    Personally I would love Sean in LA, w/ the chargers, with Herbert thats a match made in football heaven

  24. I don’t get the hype. He’s 9-8 in the postseason. 1 super bowl appearance, 1 win. 17 years ago.

  25. There won’t be a bidding war. Payton will decide where he wants to go. That team will strike a bargain with the Saints.

  26. can anyone tell us which quarterback draft choice did sean peyton develop after his 17 years with the saints?

  27. I don’t know if Payton is worth the price or not (whatever the price turns out to be), but would he want to be tied to Murray as his QB in AZ? Or would he want to go to a team as dysfunctional as Houston?

    Maybe I’m wrong, but of those three choices, Denver seems like the best option, even if he’s stuck with Wilson for the next few years.

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