Could Sean Payton, Tom Brady join forces in Carolina?

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A year ago, no one knew that Saints coach Sean Payton and Buccaneers quarterback Tom Brady were trying to join forces with the Dolphins. Eventually, word got out and the shit hit the fan and yada yada yada the Dolphins don’t have a first-round pick in 2023.

Now, with Brady poised to become a free agent in March and Payton currently drawing the interest of multiple teams, could Brady and Payton land on the same team next season?

Four teams are interested in Payton — the Broncos, Cardinals, Texans, and Panthers. The first two have quarterbacks under massive contracts. The Texans need a lot more than Brady to become competitive.

Enter the Panthers. The last to officially join the Payton chase, Carolina has a very good defense, very good receivers, a solid running game, and an offensive line good enough to make it all go.

They also have an owner who has been desperate for a great coach and a franchise quarterback. Even though Brady would be a short-term option, he’d fill the stadium and create a ton of excitement.

Also, the NFC South currently is, to put it simply, not good. The Panthers would instantly become the favorites to win the division. They could fatten up their record enough to become one of the top seeds, especially with the schedule rotation having them face the teams of the AFC South and NFC North in 2023.

A Payton-Brady duo (Payton joked last month on Brady’s podcast about the possibility) would also send a massive middle finger to 345 Park Avenue. In 2012, the league suspended Payton for a season over trumped-up bounty charges. Six years ago, the league suspended Brady for four games over trumped-up air pressure charges. And with their attempt to partner up costing Miami a first-round pick in 2022, finally making it happen would surely create consternation and chagrin at league headquarters.

It makes plenty of sense, and it’s hiding in plain sight. We’ll find out in the coming weeks whether it happens.

77 responses to “Could Sean Payton, Tom Brady join forces in Carolina?

  1. Saints letting Payton go to the Panthers? Lol. I don’t care what the Panthers would offer up.

  2. Brady will only go to a team that has a shot at a title. His kids are in Miami and NY. Miami has the offense. The Jets have the defense. The Giants have the coaching. I don’t see him going anywhere else. Unless he stays in TB.

  3. Just no. How many more games does it take to show that TB12 is d.o.n.e.? Payton to Carolina I can see, but with a rapidly declining 40-something QB? Nada.

  4. Tom Brady is done. Don’t know why any team outside of Tampa would bring him in. The idea of SF for example is ludicrous. Purdy is far better than a 45 year Brady who will only decline while Purdy has upside even as well as he is playing. Purdy is quick, elusive and moves the chains with his feet when the pressure comes. Raiders would be foolish to bring him in. They need to build something. They need to find a future QB not bring an old man for one year with zero chance of making it to AFC Championship let alone a Super Bowl. They would never get past KC, Buffalo and the Bengals. Brady will either stay in an improved Tampa Bay or retire. Sean Payton does not need Brady, he needs only to pick his fit. Brady is not going to help any team to a Super Bowl at his age. Father Time is undefeated.

  5. I hope it does happen. The thing I now care most about in the NFL is anyone who does give the middle finger to them. They deserve it. I rather see that over my favorite team winning the Super Bowl tbh. Tired of the NFL screwing over it’s fanbase.

  6. Trumped-up charges? What? Both of those things actually happened and punishment was handed out accordingly.

  7. This I would applaud on principle alone, but I don’t see it happening. Carolina lacks all kinds of talent and Brady doesn’t have much time left.

    Brady’s criteria is:

    1. Loaded weaponry to help his ego.
    2. The best defense he can find and a coach he controls.

  8. That division is a joke so it would be an easy way into the playoffs. Owner has endless amounts of cash so overpaying Payton won’t be a problem.

  9. Nailed it… This is a done deal. Under the new deal practice will be optional and he will serve as his own offensive coordinator. He will bring Gronk and Edelman with him. Edelman will bring Amendola aboard just to make some fun videos. They will win at least 3 superbowls and then make a ten part docu-series.

  10. To make that happen, all Carolina needs to do is give the Saints there 1st and 2nd this year plus 1st and 2nd in 2024

  11. I’d rather hope for the best in the 2024 draft.

    I think it’d take a MAJOR winning streak to bring around the fanbase

  12. As a Carolina fan since the day the franchise was born, this unfounded speculation is the worst idea ever and I absolutely hate it. And if somehow it DID happen, I would disavow my Panthers allegiance immediately. With both New Orleans and Tampa Bay as division rivals, those teams would demand more in trade returns than either guy is actually worth. Besides, at this point Brady is not a true QB solution – especially long term; he really didn’t play well most of the season. The Panthers would be better off using their draft capital to improve the on-field product than trading for a coach and a 46-year-old shell of a legend. Perhaps they should try to trade up in the first round for a shot at Stroud or Levis.

  13. Just on the surface, Tepper would appear to be the kind of owner Brady would b be eager to work for.
    He could get all kinds of advice about investing his money.
    I bet if Tom asked him, Tepper would have told Tom to forget about getting into bed with crypto.

  14. The Panthers aren’t good enough. Winning the NFC South isn’t Brady’s goal, so it doesn’t matter that the competition in that division is poor. He’s going to need more talent than that to have a shot at the Super Bowl.

  15. Don’t the Saints have to approve this move? Why would they allow Payton to go to a division rival?

  16. If Carolina has a very good defense, very good receivers, a solid running game, and an offensive line good enough to make it all go then they would have made the playoffs in their lousy division.

    Brady isn’t going anywhere that is years from contention.

  17. No chance TB12 goes to Carolina. It is Raiders, Dolphins, or Fox tv booth and that is it. All other options are not happening.

  18. I don’t think the league would mind one bit. They would laugh at anyone thinking they suffering any kind of embarrassment as they rake in the ratings in a market that doesn’t do well.

  19. Carolina would have to cough up more than pick #9 in the 2023 draft. A Division rival has to massively overpay.

  20. Why? You seen their roster? It’s not likes it’s a QB/coach combo away from competing for a Super Bowl. Brady is gonna go some place with a decent defense in place, a decent line, and a bunch of skill players. Carolina isn’t it.

  21. Payton only wants Brady to sell tickets. He’ll get Lamar Jackson if he wants to win.

  22. Even though I think he takes the Bronco job, that’s the other one I think he might take. The Panthers can be really good with a decent QB and not a moron for head coach, which they had in Rhule.

  23. Payton won his Super Bowl in 2006. 16 years ago. 9-8 in the postseason. It was more Brees being one of the best QBs ever than Payton just like we saw it was 70-30 Brady over Belichick. The QB is the most important person in the entire organization.

  24. Brady is a perfectionist, He can’t possibly sit in the film room after games and continue to see how many open receivers he misses multiple times a game and be okay with it. He has some moments of magic left in him here and there, but for the most part he has become a below average QB and will continue to water down his legacy if he keeps going.

  25. Carolina would have to give up quite a haul to get Payton’s contract from New Orleans, a direct divisional rival. I don’t see it happening.

  26. The Panthers should just keep Steve Wilks and find a quarterback that won’t be 46 years old at the start of training camp.

  27. Do it Panthers , it will at least make you interesting for a year or two. I might even go a game next fall.

  28. No one cares about Brady any more. He’s going to end up like Alex Smith if he keeps pushing it

  29. Looks like Brady’s team selections is getting collectively worse….I wonder if it’s because no one wants an old washed up qb.

  30. That would be interesting….looking forward to seeing Brady play into his 90’s.

  31. I don’t see the Saints letting Payton go to a division rival without debilitating compensation

  32. Would the Saints let that happen? They have to agree to compensation for Payton. I doubt they will ultimately trade him to a team within their own division.

  33. As a Panther fan for their entire existence this would not be a move I would want. I’ve hated both of them forever and Brady is obviously on the decline and most likely will be worse next season. The Saints will charge a division rival just enough to make Payton not worth the price if they have any sense.

  34. Peyton has already stated that the owner and the QB are strongly important in his decision…..QB OK but the owner is the outlier here….this match up will never happen

  35. We’re gonna need 2 firsts and 2 seconds.

    Or Sean can enjoy his television time until his contract is up.

  36. Saints aren’t going to create a division rival but may use the Panthers to help set the price higher for Payton.

  37. The Saints aren’t stupid enough to allow Payton to remain in the division and have to face him twice each season. Not without extracting significantly more draft capital than they would from other teams. If they ARE that dumb, they deserve what they have to deal with as a result.

  38. Good luck If any team signs Brady, those last few games he was looking like a 40 something trying to play a young mans game…. When anyone gets close, you can tell by his body language that he plays scared of getting hit!

  39. All this speculation is cracking me up. Like everybody knows what’s really going on?? NOT but it’s fun to watch.

  40. Seriously? After DJ Moore (just 63 receptions in 2022), the Panthers have Laviska Chenault, Terrace Marshall Jr, Chi Smith, Tommy Tremble, Andre Roberts, Rashard Higgins, C.J. Saunders, etc. etc. What are you TALKING about “very good receivers?”

  41. Brady, for whom a Lombardi Trophy is the only successful outcome, will want to stay in the NFC where the path to the Super Bowl is much easier than the loaded AFC. Carolina and San Francisco are the most likely landing spots, although the Niners are becoming less and less likely as Brock Purdy continues to amaze. A third NFC option for Brady/Payton, a longshot I admit, is New Orleans, another team with good weapons and a stout defense. Whatever happens, this will be a prime topic for speculation and discussion in the off-season.

  42. This would check a lot of boxes for Brady. This is a team with most of the necessary pieces in place but wanting a better QB, it’s a warm(ish) weather city, it’s located within fairly easy distance from his kids in Miami and NYC. Their cap space situation isn’t great, but probably manageable.

    I don’t think this would cause any ill will with Payton, Brady and the League. Bountygate and Deflategate were all about Goodell ginning up fake cases to use for him to establish and consolidate power. He got what he wanted out of the cases, and ever since he’s acted as if they never happened. Neither Payton nor Brady seems to dwell much on the past, either. Maybe they’ll let it all hang out once they’re done with the NFL, but not before.

  43. mhouser1922 says:
    January 18, 2023 at 9:22 am
    Brady, for whom a Lombardi Trophy is the only successful outcome, will want to stay in the NFC where the path to the Super Bowl is much easier than the loaded AFC. Carolina and San Francisco are the most likely landing spots, although the Niners are becoming less and less likely as Brock Purdy continues to amaze. A third NFC option for Brady/Payton, a longshot I admit, is New Orleans, another team with good weapons and a stout defense. Whatever happens, this will be a prime topic for speculation and discussion in the off-season.
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    Why would Brady go to Carolina? He’d be better to just stay in Tampa, regardless of where Payton goes. If Payton did become the HC of Carolina, why would he want a short-term solution at QB? The 49ers? They have Purdy and Lance, who they gave up draft capital for. They’d be better to keep all three QBs and just have a competition. The Saints for either? Laughable.

  44. As a Panthers fan, absolutely no. Payton had Brees for years and was inconsistent at best.

    Pass on Brady, too. We need to build a team, not a band aid.

  45. Not going to happen. Build for the future? Naaaa. Tick off the knowledgeable fanbase? Absolutely. Give a division rival draft picks? C’mon. Payton is a good coach, not the Almighty. Brady definitely looked his age Monday.

  46. Tom Brady just led the Bucs to a 10 loss season… TEN!!! It took like 4 years to reach that total in his prime!

  47. Tom Brady is done. Don’t know why any team outside of Tampa would bring him in. The idea of SF for example is ludicrous. Purdy is far better than a 45 year Brady who will only decline while Purdy has upside even as well as he is playing. Purdy is quick, elusive and moves the chains with his feet when the pressure comes. Raiders would be foolish to bring him in. They need to build something. They need to find a future QB not bring an old man for one year with zero chance of making it to AFC Championship let alone a Super Bowl. They would never get past KC, Buffalo and the Bengals. Brady will either stay in an improved Tampa Bay or retire. Sean Payton does not need Brady, he needs only to pick his fit. Brady is not going to help any team to a Super Bowl at his age. Father Time is undefeated.

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    Should SF bring in a 45 year old Brady, especially with Lance, Jimmy G and Purdy all in the mix? Absolutely not. Is Purdy better than a 45 year old Brady? No way. If Brady was there right now they would be monstrous favorites to win the Super Bowl as opposed to 3.5 point favorites to beat Dallas at home.

    Purdy either wins it all this year and becomes a guy in the league for a while, or, most likely, he loses and is on his way to becoming the next Trevor Siemian or at best Ryan Fitzpatrick. Looks good in his rookie year, gets progressively figured out and is just a decent player.

    I feel like Brady is most likely to retire. Not because he can’t play right now, but because it most likely will take a few years to have a good chance in another city. He would have to commit hard to get the team to the right level like he did year 1 in Tampa. He was fortunate in Tampa and it isn’t likely happen again. I don’t see him living across the country from his kids either. Tampa aren’t going to be good enough for him to win next year, so I don’t see the point of staying.

    That said, he’s probably worth 100 million dollars in team revenue to a new franchise that signs him for 2 years, so if he acts like MJ and Gretzky he will go play somewhere else and likely not win and be a great value to that franchise.

  48. If Brady goes somewhere it’s going to be an NFC Team, but Carolina is unlikely as they aren’t any better than the Bucs. I could imagine him going to the 49ers because they are Championship-ready with their defense, offensive playmakers and coaching team. Do they want him? Does he want to go to the West coast with his children on the East coast? We‘ll see, but Carolina is unlikely as his destination.

  49. steelersbandwagon says:
    January 17, 2023 at 11:39 pm
    Payton only wants Brady to sell tickets. He’ll get Lamar Jackson if he wants to win.

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    I don’t think the reports of Brady and Payton being pursued by Miami have any bearing on the current situation.

    I don’t think Payton is asking for Brady to be on any team he is interviewing with.

  50. kingbags says:
    January 17, 2023 at 10:02 pm
    Brady to Oakland

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    I really don’t see Brady living across the country. Gisele will want to be close to South America within the US. Zero chance Brady wants to uproot his kids and create an issue where he can’t see them regularly.

  51. austinspencer says:
    January 17, 2023 at 11:55 pm
    Payton won his Super Bowl in 2006. 16 years ago. 9-8 in the postseason. It was more Brees being one of the best QBs ever than Payton just like we saw it was 70-30 Brady over Belichick. The QB is the most important person in the entire organization.

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    It’s really hard to judge that. The QB is the most important position, but not more important than the entirety of everything else. However, as we saw with Brady in 2019 in NE, if you have no one to throw to you don’t look very good. Also if you have no OL you don’t look very good.

    Brady going to Tampa, who had all the parts to win now, and taking Gronk and getting a bit out of Fournette and AB, made a huge difference. That team was stacked.

    Every position matters. The coaching matters. You just need a great player at the QB position to win consistently too.

    Brees, as good as he was, only won a single Super Bowl because of the roster. Not because of the coach and the QB. After his SB the defense was never the same until near the end of Brees’ career.

  52. bullcharger says:
    January 18, 2023 at 11:05 am
    Tom Brady is done. Don’t know why any team outside of Tampa would bring him in. The idea of SF for example is ludicrous. Purdy is far better than a 45 year Brady who will only decline while Purdy has upside even as well as he is playing. Purdy is quick, elusive and moves the chains with his feet when the pressure comes. Raiders would be foolish to bring him in. They need to build something. They need to find a future QB not bring an old man for one year with zero chance of making it to AFC Championship let alone a Super Bowl. They would never get past KC, Buffalo and the Bengals. Brady will either stay in an improved Tampa Bay or retire. Sean Payton does not need Brady, he needs only to pick his fit. Brady is not going to help any team to a Super Bowl at his age. Father Time is undefeated.

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    Should SF bring in a 45 year old Brady, especially with Lance, Jimmy G and Purdy all in the mix? Absolutely not. Is Purdy better than a 45 year old Brady? No way. If Brady was there right now they would be monstrous favorites to win the Super Bowl as opposed to 3.5 point favorites to beat Dallas at home.

    Purdy either wins it all this year and becomes a guy in the league for a while, or, most likely, he loses and is on his way to becoming the next Trevor Siemian or at best Ryan Fitzpatrick. Looks good in his rookie year, gets progressively figured out and is just a decent player.

    I feel like Brady is most likely to retire. Not because he can’t play right now, but because it most likely will take a few years to have a good chance in another city. He would have to commit hard to get the team to the right level like he did year 1 in Tampa. He was fortunate in Tampa and it isn’t likely happen again. I don’t see him living across the country from his kids either. Tampa aren’t going to be good enough for him to win next year, so I don’t see the point of staying.

    That said, he’s probably worth 100 million dollars in team revenue to a new franchise that signs him for 2 years, so if he acts like MJ and Gretzky he will go play somewhere else and likely not win and be a great value to that franchise.

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    The one team nobody is talking about that I can see making a full court press for Brady is the Jets. Just for the publicity and getting on the back page over the Giants.

    The same team that actually traded for Tebow for the same reason…

  53. austinspencer says:
    January 17, 2023 at 11:55 pm
    The QB is the most important person in the entire organization.

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    I agree. Gute, Murphy and La Fleur know it all to well. McCarthy thought it was the coach. Big mistake, which is why he was sent packing (no pun intended).

  54. GoodellMustGo says:
    January 18, 2023 at 6:53 am
    Career playoff passer ratings:
    Tebow 90
    Brady 89.8

    🤔🤭

    ___________

    To have an unbiased and accurately comparable stat you’d need to take the average using the same number of games both of them played and during the same time period. On the other hand if you want a biased and inaccurate stat, leave it the way it is.

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