Dolphins could make a play for a franchise-tagged Lamar Jackson, after the draft

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The signs currently are pointing to the Ravens applying the non-exclusive franchise tag to quarterback Lamar Jackson, if they can’t sign him to a long-term contract.

That would allow other teams to negotiate with Jackson and sign him to an offer sheet. If the Ravens don’t match the offer sheet, they would get two first-round draft picks from Jackson’s new team.

Some believe that Jackson would like to return to his hometown of Miami and play for the Dolphins. Jackson, given the ability of coach Mike McDaniel to draw up game plans that get the most out of the talents of his players, could work very well as a runner and a passer in Miami’s attack.

But there’s a problem. The Dolphins don’t have a first-round pick in 2023, thanks to the tampering investigation and sanctions arising from the failed effort to lure coach Sean Payton and quarterback Tom Brady to Miami.

There’s another way to skin the cat. If Jackson doesn’t sign an offer sheet with another team before the draft, the Dolphins could sign Jackson to an offer sheet after the draft. Then, if the Ravens don’t match, Baltimore would get Miami’s first-round picks in 2024 and 2025.

Before the Ravens would be in a position to match or take a pair of first-round picks, Jackson would have to negotiate a multi-year offer sheet with a new team. He has been unable to do that, so far, with the Ravens.

If the Ravens apply the non-exclusive franchise tag to Jackson, they’ll be inviting any other team to do what the Ravens have been unable to get Jackson to do. If the Dolphins wait until after the 2023 draft has come and gone, they’ll have a chance to give it a try — if they want.

97 responses to “Dolphins could make a play for a franchise-tagged Lamar Jackson, after the draft

  1. Yeah I don’t know, the draft is well after free agency and it’s hard to see the Ravens waiting around with an unsettled situation at QB on Miami when other teams will also be interested. All I know is Tyler Huntley is no QB1

  2. Why do people think Lamar is the answer to their quarterback needs? The guy QUIT on his team during the PLAYOFFS. No thank you!! I want a gamer not a selfish me me guy

  3. Why isn’t anyone talking about the Bills vs Bengals game? I mean, they took home field away from KC. Why didn’t that happen in the Buffalo vs Cincy game? Cincy was winning, and going to win. Yet, Buffalo gets the home game. Makes zero sense

  4. What a terrible idea. Why trade for an older, just as injury prone, less accurate, extremely more expensive in both salary and draft compensation QB?

  5. I would love for this scenario to play out. The way the Ravens draft, having 2 first rounders in 2024 and 2025, would set this franchise up for the rest of Harbaugh and DeCostis’ career.

  6. This is garbage, like when you said the Panthers might trade for Tomlin. It’s a total waste of time speculative non story.

  7. He is not going anywhere. He will be a Raven for a long time. If anyone needs to go away then it is John Harbaugh the special teams coach who became a non technical HC. One playoff win in the last Nine, repeat last nine appearances

  8. So they’d move on from Tua who has an injury history, but can throw the ball extremely accurately for someone who has an injury history as well but can’t throw the ball accurately. Yeah sounds like a good plan Florio. Out here hot takin’ like Stephen A. Smith. Lol

  9. It’s obvious the Ravens don’t value Lamar as Lamar value himself. But too much investment has been made in the Dolphins receiver corp to now jump on a run-first QB. So why would the Dolphins need to do this and not the Commanders, Texans, Buccaneers, Panthers, Saints, Colts, Broncos or Raiders? All of those teams are in worst QB shape than the Dolphins.

  10. Not worth two 1st round picks, especially when you consider what you’ll have to pay him.

  11. The problem with this theory is the person negotiating any new contract is Jackson himself. His expectations for any new contract are unrealistic.

  12. They should put a package together to somehow pry away one of the top 3 QBs in the NFL – first ballot HOF QB Russel.

    NOW while Denver’s too messed up to realize they stole him from Seattle.

  13. jonathankrobinson424 says:
    January 18, 2023 at 8:18 pm
    Tom Brady will not like that.

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    Miami cannot go after Brady after being caught tampering/cheating. Additional draft picks would
    need to be taken as a “repeat offender” and thumbing their noses at the league’s already very light punishment tampering with 3 different teams.

  14. No way, no how. If the guy can’t get it done in Baltimore with an entire offense built around his skill set, it sure isn’t going to be better anywhere else.

  15. Would someone get this dummy an agent, jeez.

    There are a couple of very good QB prospects in this draft. Way cheaper and they won’t quit on their team in the playoffs. Jackson is the first QB I ever seen that cost his team a “L” without even playing..

  16. Sorry but Miami is running it back with TUA, Skylar and a veteran Back-Up in addition to the core you saw on offense this year. They were good enough.

    Year two in the system is invaluable.
    Pay Ahmed. Draft OL & LB.
    Get healthy and younger on defense as a whole.

    Go Dolphins.

  17. What a brilliant idea! Why not get a Quarterback that has proven his inability to read defenses, accurately throw the ball, and quits on his teammates. That way the two speedster Wide Receivers can just watch their new Quarterback run for 80 yards per game. Miami would lose the Wide Receivers they have and wouldn’t get any new ones to play with Jackson. Look at Baltimore….there’s a reason they can’t get any free agent Wide Receivers, a reason why the Wide Receivers they had left. Baltimore needs to send him to the Houston Texans. The same Houston Texans that have two 1st round picks this year.

  18. Lamar has great rep, good alround guy. He deserves benefit of doubt he is seriously injured. If it was contractual, he would set out season.

    Lamar will be fine, he will be great for Falcons , Panthers who are in very winnable division. Authur Smith at Falcons or Mike MacDaniel at Fins with Lamar would be immense. Jets with their weapons too.

  19. If the Ravens can get two first-round pics for Jackson, they should take them! A 26 year-old running QB who can’t throw and has multiple serious injuries is unlikely to live up to a 5-year, big money contract at this age.

  20. The Ravens will do it but I think the Falcons would be the team to sign him if they have the cap space.

  21. All he does is win with lesser talent, on a rookie contract, that’s pathetic.

    He wants out bad. Can’t blame him. What other QB has ever been treated this way?

    Haters gonna hate. Lamar is gonna ball in a new city.

    I don’t think it will be Miami…….Tampa on the other hand?

  22. We know Stephen Ross is not above tampering. I’m sure he’s already met with Lamar on the yacht.

  23. bostonblows says:
    January 18, 2023 at 8:59 pm
    All he does is win with lesser talent, on a rookie contract, that’s pathetic.

    He wants out bad. Can’t blame him. What other QB has ever been treated this way?

    Haters gonna hate. Lamar is gonna ball in a new city.

    I don’t think it will be Miami…….Tampa on the other hand?

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    Tampa is dead last in cap space after GM and Coach Brady ruiined them with an old team, and Brady will leave it with a path of roster deatruction for years. It makes no sense for Tampa to deal picks, pay 50 mil per and watch Lamar Jackson’s career fade away.

  24. So basically it’s on the ravens to get more than 2 1st round picks between now and the draft

  25. The problem with any hypothetical is Jackson’s outlandish demands. A 5-year fully-guaranteed contract is ridiculous, and for a player who hasn’t been able to finish two seasons in a row, doubly so.

    One playoff win and 2 out of 5 seasons lost to injury. Who would offer that enormous guaranteed contract for that?

    He’s very talented and clearly deserves a big contract. And Baltimore wants to give him one. But his results are somewhere between Cousins and Prescott and far south of Allen, Burrow, and Mahomes. Watson’s contract is a ridiculous outlier that no sane team recognizes as a reflection of value.

  26. Those still claiming Jackson “can’t throw” are living on another planet; one where there is no football. This dude can make EVERY throw on the field and some that 60% of other QBs couldn’t even imagine. In addition, he’s faster and a better athlete than your QB. I’m no Ravens fan, but my eyes work.

  27. bozobiden says:
    January 18, 2023 at 8:17 pm
    Why do people think Lamar is the answer to their quarterback needs? The guy QUIT on his team during the PLAYOFFS. No thank you!! I want a gamer not a selfish me me guy
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    The guy played the entire year without an extension. He never quit on anyone. How did playing through a major injury workout for RGIII? He should have never played the regular season without an extension.

  28. Lamar hasn’t even played in weeks, coming off an injury, and would demand a big contract

    Your logic, as usual, doesn’t make sense.

  29. Russell Wilson commanded 2 firsts, 2 seconds, a 5th rounders, 3 players for Russ and a 4th.
    Tyreek was a 1st, a 2nd, two 4ths, and a 5th rounder.

    We live in a world where 2 first round picks is insufficient compensation for a QB. Daniel Jones is probably worth more than 2 first-round picks. If Miami and the Ravens are to do a deal for Lamar, it’s going to be for a lot more than 2 first-rounders.

  30. chue says:
    January 18, 2023 at 8:47 pm
    What a brilliant idea! Why not get a Quarterback that has proven his inability to read defenses, accurately throw the ball, and quits on his teammates. That way the two speedster Wide Receivers can just watch their new Quarterback run for 80 yards per game. Miami would lose the Wide Receivers they have and wouldn’t get any new ones to play with Jackson. Look at Baltimore….there’s a reason they can’t get any free agent Wide Receivers, a reason why the Wide Receivers they had left. Baltimore needs to send him to the Houston Texans. The same Houston Texans that have two 1st round picks this year.

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    The dreaded “can’t read defenses card” is only played by internet comment section analysts exclusively towards QBs who look a certain way. The reason the Ravens have no receivers is because they have a bad GM. Hollywood Brown got traded because he was mediocre and wanted a huge contract. His numbers were far worse. Jackson with Thoses receivers mean defenses have to pick their poison every play. Two safety deep? get gashed on the ground. Stack the box? Get beat deep. The Ravens were poorly constructed on offense and invited stacked boxes. 3rd in the NFL behind only Mahomes and Allen (who is Less accurate and more turnover than Jackson by the way) since taking over as a starter.

  31. Lamar Jackson’s knees are as fragile as Tua’s head so why would that make ANY sense for Miami to make a play on him? If anything it’s maybe 2 or 3 possibilities in a QB change – 1) Derrek Carr 2) Jimmy Garappolo OR still… and I think this is a stretch 3) Tom Brady. And lost in this equation is the fact that Jackson is nothing more than an average RB masquerading as a less than average QB.

  32. I know Lamar has putting a lot of Lions love out there this season, but i don’t want him at all. If you trade everything you have to just got get him here, then sign him to a ridiculous Watson contract, it would bury everything we have been doing here. The team that trades for him say bye to your draft, tell your WR’s sorry because there numbers will be terrible, and you better get a great, big TE because that’s all Lamar is good at is throwing to a big target with a big radius. Oh yeah and your going to trade your future, ruin your cap space, for a guy who will either run the I formation or Run. Being hurt the end of the season and during the playoffs, no ty.

  33. The Texans got 3 first rounders for Watson, who isn’t as good as Lamar. So the Ravens will not use the non-exclusive tag and allow a team to swipe him for only 2 firsts. They will use the exclusive tag.

  34. Didn’t the Dolphins just sign Hill and Waddle to catch passes? That won’t be happening if Jackson is the QB. Why don’t people understand that WRs don’t want to play with this guy??

  35. @bostonblows:

    Don’t know if I would say ALL he does is win, considering he’s not made it past the 2nd round and has a grand total of one playoff wins (same number as Brock Purdy and fewer than Ryan Tannehill). Also, he wouldn’t still BE on a rookie contract if he had an agent, or realistic expectations…he would’ve been extended before this season, as the Ravens tried to do. His lack of financial “security”, according to PFT and most reports, is his own doing. He has every right to ask for 5 years, at top dollar, fully guaranteed….and the Ravens have every right to tell him to kick rocks (as will every other team, I suspect).

  36. What Lamar’s asking for is guaranteed money that’ll keep the Dolphins cash strapped for years, and even more money if he’s injured again. Also if they speak to Lamar’s camp and don’t land him, it’s almost certain Tua won’t want to sign with the Phins after his rookie contract is up. That sounds fine right now, but if Tua plays a full season in 2023, pushing him away will look like the biggest mistake of the last decade if he plays above average at all.

  37. I can just hear Nina Simone crooning “Baltimore” with a somber voice right now.

    I’d say the same for Lamar but I doubt he has any idea who she was.

  38. That type of speculation will bring more desperate teams like NY Jets and Falcons to the table with three #1s. An auction isn’t about value its about needing at least 2 bidders to compete for services and drive up the price.

  39. People rate Lamar really high,and he DOES make some highlight reel plays, but… he doesn’t win.
    HE is outstanding, but he doesn’t lead the team to win in the playoffs.
    And if you’re gonna be your own agent, you need to be really, really savvy.
    This isn’t trying to get a $2 per hour raise outta your boss. If he isn’t careful he’ll make teams reluctant to work with him. Baltimore has an excellent coach and system, about as good as it gets, and he can’t settle in there.

  40. The Ravens are still his best fit whether he likes it or not. Also on all seriousness, nobody is giving them 2 firsts when they also have to pay him a top 10 QB contract.

    The tag will just lock him down for a year so they can trade him but what do people think is reasonable compensation… A first and third like the Lions got for Stafford? More? Less?

  41. They could trade Hill and Waddle for him since they wouldn’t been needed or useful anymore with Lamar at QB.

  42. It’s amazing how much play the media gets out of their narrative that Lamar is a good QB and lots of teams would want him. Outside of the media and Baltimore, everyone else sees Lamar for what he is: a great athlete who can scramble, who can’t throw accurately or outside the numbers, can’t read defenses or handle any pressure, and now is injured and worse, someone who quit on his team and lost the respect of his locker room. Oh, and he can’t win in the playoffs either, so there’s that fact as well. Can we move on from hyping up Lamar? 2019 was 4 years ago.

  43. bostonblows says:
    January 18, 2023 at 8:59 pm
    All he does is win with lesser talent, on a rookie contract, that’s pathetic.

    He wants out bad. Can’t blame him. What other QB has ever been treated this way?

    Haters gonna hate. Lamar is gonna ball in a new city.

    I don’t think it will be Miami…….Tampa on the other hand?
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    Yes, shocked, yes shocked I tell you, that teams aren’t lined up to give a guy a $251M fully guaranteed contract who misses more and more time because his true talent is running the football.

    I’d love Tamp, Dolphins, or anyone else but Hawks sign him up.

  44. Makes sense for Miami to make a play for Lamar, given they have Tyreek, Waddle, but maybe not Tua anymore. It would create a salary cap nightmare down the line, but manageable.

    It seems like the Ravens and Lamar are done. Baltimore is very saavy with their cap and roster and would be one of the last teams to backup the Brinks truck for a QB with injury concerns.

  45. PhinsJunkie says:
    January 18, 2023 at 8:28 pm
    It’s obvious the Ravens don’t value Lamar as Lamar value himself. But too much investment has been made in the Dolphins receiver corp to now jump on a run-first QB. So why would the Dolphins need to do this and not the Commanders, Texans, Buccaneers, Panthers, Saints, Colts, Broncos or Raiders? All of those teams are in worst QB shape than the Dolphins.
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    Please tell us all how the Broncos could afford to pay Jackson when they are stuck with Russell’s contract. I’ll wait.

  46. Poor Lamar ain’t getting much love anymore. It would be interesting to see Lamar running that Miami offense with the 2 fastest WR’s and himself. Tyrek wouldn’t have the most accurate QB in the NFL so it might not work.

  47. Now Mike Daniels after one year with one of the fastest teams in NFL history is a coach getting the most of their talent? The Jets won some games this year and where in the playoff hunt too. Pump the brakes on him. Trading Lamar would be a great move for the Ravens. Lamar isn’t worth more than $25 to $30M a year for a QB. If he isn’t backed by a great roster your team has a low ceiling.

  48. Miami would have to go through a complete rebuild if they brought in Jackson! The current offense is designed for Tua and the money was spent on receivers getting open quick and the QB being very accurate which Tua is! You being in Jackson and you have to have an offensive line that can run block really well,like top 5 in the league. And have big physical receivers that can go up and get the ball because Jackson isn’t very accurate! He isn’t hitting Hill or Waddle like Tua! I’d like to see a more dependable QB in Miami but bringing in a running back that plays QB isn’t the answer! And if you’re going to strengthen the run game anyway then keep Tua and run it! He’ll cost far less and you’ll have the money for linemen!

  49. The Ravens will send him to any team ( including an inter-divisional team) that offers them (2) 1st rounders.

    He’s good as gone.

    And Decosta will have turned a 32nd pick into (2) 1st rounders while making the playoffs 4 out of 5 years along the way.

    Taddaaaaa!!

  50. lowlyfinfan88 says:
    January 18, 2023 at 8:27 pm
    So they’d move on from Tua who has an injury history, but can throw the ball extremely accurately for someone who has an injury history as well but can’t throw the ball accurately. Yeah sounds like a good plan Florio. Out here hot takin’ like Stephen A. Smith. Lol

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    Tua’s on target percentage was 76.7%. Lamar Jackson was 75.4% so their accuracy is actually about the same. Plus we have seen Jackson make it through an entire season and Tua is totally reliant on the offensive scheme. If you make Him hold onto the ball he gets flustered. The Ravens have no scheme. Lamar is the best improvisor in the league. Not to mention he has a much bigger arm and won’t constantly underthrow his receivers. This would be a huge upgrade and Tua would give the Ravens a solid QB to rebuild around if he can remain healthy long enough because without Jackson the Ravens will be amongst the worst in the league.

  51. It would be hilarious to see the Ravens tag then trade Lamar to Miami, but the amount of future draft capital the Fins would have give up, never gonna happen. Lamar seems to think he’s better than and worth more than Watson, fine. The Texans picked up 3-1st, 1-3rd, and 2-4th’s. So by Lamar’s twisted logic, Miami wouldn’t have a first round pick until 2027 or 2028? Sorry Florio, somebody’s getting fleeced, but it won’t be the Dolphins…my bet is on the Jets. Now there’s a team that has never had a superstar QB, there’s a team dumb enough and desperate enough to pull a Browns.

  52. When they traded Hollywood Brown in an attempt to sabotage Lamar’s contract I felt bad for him. Ravens did him dirty.

  53. Why would the Dolphins want to swap out a concussion-prone QB for an injury-prone QB who is looking to take a franchise hostage with an unreasonable demand for a five year fully guaranteed contract?

    Is there a team that even exists that is dumb enough to hand an now proven me-first injury-prone QB a five year fully guaranteed contract, knowing he won’t last or certainly be effective beyond three years, max?

  54. bostonblows says:
    January 18, 2023 at 8:59 pm

    All he does is win with lesser talent,
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    Where does that narrative keep coming from? What has he won? Baltimore fans and players keep saying “if we had Lamar we would`ve won” but he`s 1-3 in the Playoffs with 55% comp and NEVER scored more than the 17 points they got without him! He`s a great athlete but not a great QB!
    They don`t score over 17 points because the offense isn`t designed to score points it`s designed to fit Lamar! The only place Baltimore has lessor talent is WR because none of the big ones available wanted to go there and block for Lamar. He`s a great talent that can beat any team on a given day but he is not a good enough QB to win 3-4 post season games against good teams so if you want to make the Playoffs keep him and if you want to win Super Bowls trade him!

  55. DrewSports says:
    January 18, 2023 at 8:48 pm
    Dolphins need to trade for Brock Purdy
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    You misspelled the JETs.

  56. Given what the browns got for watson.

    Ravens would be foolish not to do the exclusive tag and demand a kings ransom for lamar

  57. UB! The season isn’t even over 2 weeks and already you have Miami as a landing spot for Brady, and today they could make a play, and are going to give up a 2024 and 2025 1st round draft pick for Lamar Jackson?! That is hysterical. Is Miami going to be a landing spot for every QB available this offseason?! This wild speculation is ridiculous considering they already have a QB who finished FIRST in the league in several categories. Yes, he has had concussion issues this year, but still has played in more games than Jackson has in each of the last two seasons. jackson wants to break the bank yet has thrown for 3,000 yards just once and will continue to get injured running as much as he does. Neither is going to happen.

  58. This proposition doesn’t seem realistic, if I were EDC. But what’s hilarious are the posters who THINK they know Jackson quit on his team or that he can’t throw. Please stick to whatever your day job is.

  59. I’d argue that Lamar is no more available to his team than Tua. Tua is much cheaper right now (could probably even be extended for value this offseason). Lamar is more dynamic for sure, probably a better QB overall, but Lamar+Hill+Chubb+Armstead would probably eat up about 1/3 or more of the cap. Dolphins are already $16M over the projected 2023 Salary cap and will have to make some cuts/restructures already. How are they gonna add Lamar without gutting that team? They could trade Tua and save about $4.5 of that, but that’s not even close.

  60. Any thought to the Dolphins extending Tua while he’s probably willing to accept a lesser deal? It’d be a gamble for both of them, but he’s probably 1 concussion away from teams not wanting to risk him playing again. Dolphins could get a steal if he stays healthy while Tua could get some financial security if the contract has heavy guarantees. There’s gambling on your talent and then there’s gambling on freak head injuries. I’d guess Tua wouldn’t want to gamble.

  61. The Ravens entire offense is built around this kid, I don’t see them getting rid of him if they can help it. On the other hand, if they can get another runner like the kid in Chicago then maybe but I’m not sure he’s on the table.

  62. One of the main reasons he has less talent around him is no WR worth anything will come to the Ravens because of him and his lack of passing the ball. Now he is going to create less talent on the whole team by eating all of the cap space. So while you call it hating, others call it simple common sense that a run first QB who has been injured and miss multiple games the last 2 years is not worth a ridiculous contract. Every QB who is barely top 15 who wants top money gets treated this way. He is on a rookie contract the same amount of time as anyone else, so what is your point? He had the same time to earn his big contract as every rookie and he really has not earned what he is wanting.

  63. Do not see Miami trading for Lamar. Ravens will either franchise or sign him. Ravens have built their offense around him, not too many other teams willing to do that, imo.

  64. touchback6 says:
    January 18, 2023 at 9:06 pm
    bostonblows says:
    January 18, 2023 at 8:59 pm
    All he does is win with lesser talent, on a rookie contract, that’s pathetic.

    He wants out bad. Can’t blame him. What other QB has ever been treated this way?

    Haters gonna hate. Lamar is gonna ball in a new city.

    I don’t think it will be Miami…….Tampa on the other hand?

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    Tampa is dead last in cap space after GM and Coach Brady ruiined them with an old team, and Brady will leave it with a path of roster deatruction for years. It makes no sense for Tampa to deal picks, pay 50 mil per and watch Lamar Jackson’s career fade away

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    At least Tampa Bay brought home a SB. Meanwhile BB is overpaying for guys like Jonnu Smith, Nelson Aghlor, Davante Parker and the always injured Isaiah Wynn. And it’s increasingly looking like he will need to find a new QB. And all that to make one playoff appearance in three seasons where the team was completely embarrassed

  65. Stop it. He is a terrible fit for what McDaniels does on offense which is a very QB friendly system and that QB needs to be disciplined and accurate. Lamar is great but there is no need for it in Miami. They can get a guy in this years draft to teach and be ready when Tua gets popped again.

  66. That makes so much sense. You’ve got Tyreek Hill and Jaylen Waddle so pay a guy who can’t throw $60M and make those two completely worthless. Great strategy!

  67. For anyone saying that Jackson’s accuracy is comparable to Tua’s is fooling themselves! Tua is letting it go right away through tiny holes and hitting receivers in front of their routes. Look at the yards after catch! He’s putting it through holes that receivers aren’t in yet and they are coming out the other side with the ball! Jackson isn’t doing that. Jackson’s percentage comes from his ability to run and keep the play alive,nothing wrong with that but that isn’t his ability to locate the ball that’s earning his percentage.

  68. Ravens are happy to let the market set Lamar’s value. And take 2 first round picks if someone wants to overpay.

    The Ravens are built specifically for Lamar, but I dont know many QBS that arent improved with a great OL, strong running game and top TE. Spend that money you woulda spent on Lamar on a reasonbly priced QB and a couple proven WRs

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