Trey Lance raises eyebrows with social-media post on Ran Carthon

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The news from Tennessee on Tuesday was that 49ers director of player personnel Ran Carthon has become the Titans’ G.M. Then came an interesting P.S.

49ers quarterback Trey Lance posted on his Instagram story a photo of Carthon. Beneath the image were a trio of fingers-crossed emojis.

Whatever Lance’s intent, it’s reasonable to wonder whether Lance has his fingers crossed in the hopes that Carthon will, in his new job, trade for Lance.

Even if that’s not the message Lance intended to send, people will assume it’s what he meant. And, frankly, it would be hard to blame Lance for wanting out.

They went all in to get him in 2021, devoting three first-round picks and a third-round pick to the acquisition of Lance. The expectations and the pressure became immense. And it feels as if he’s never fully been embraced.

From sticking with Jimmy Garoppolo in 2021 to keeping Garoppolo around in 2022 to the obvious implications of the emergence of Brock Purdy, who could blame Lance for wanting out?

The Titans may be in the market for a quarterback in 2023. Ryan Tannehill has a $36.6 million cap number and a $27 million base salary in the final year of his deal. The Titans are potentially considering their options.

Maybe Lance is one of them. Maybe Lance, based on his social-media post about the team’s new G.M., hopes he’ll be.

63 responses to “Trey Lance raises eyebrows with social-media post on Ran Carthon

  1. What would someone realistically trade for a QB that hasn’t really played yet and is coming off a broken ankle? I would agree that Ryan Tannehill isn’t your answer, but is Lance?

  2. As a Niners fan, I always hated the Trey Lance pick. I didn’t care about the 1st round picks they gave up because the draft is a literal crapshoot and the Niners usually draft well in the later rounds. (Little, warner, Purdy to name a few), but Trey is just too raw and looks lost. It’s not his fault that he got chosen that high, but lance has never shown that he has it. Again, he’s just too raw and not developed yet. I hope the Niners trade him and he can start his career somewhere new. Idk if Purdy is the guy, but right now he’s better than Lance and deserves his shot next year to be the guy.

  3. At this stage, Lance is still a bit of an unknown. The 49er’s would not get anything near what they put in. I’d imagine the Titans pick him up for a 2nd or 3rd round pick? Maybe that’s off but, thats what i would offer. Hell he may still be a bust

  4. If SF does not win the SB in the next 2 years, this draft pick and the eventual downfall of the 49ers franchise over this move, will be a disaster.

    And, don’t think because you picked him #3 overall that somehow he’s worth a high draft pick.

    TB is already heading down a path of destruction for years to come and SF won’t be far behind.

    And, I am not sure why anyone would be trading or investinng in a QB that is on social media acting all passive-aggressive either. The immatutrity is off the charts.

  5. IN that draft, the 49ers scouting personal came into question immediately!
    WAY overpaid for him with so little experience…

  6. There isn’t a better place to play QB right now than SF. They are stacked everywhere you look. I think people are reading way too much into this. This might just be hoping a guy he knows does well. I wouldn’t put too much stock in what a young twenty something writes on social media.

  7. The Patriots should trade Mac Jones for Trey Lance. It make sense for both teams.

  8. Trade Trey Lance for a first round pick and move on. Don’t get caught up in recouping the other two picks. Purdy is the guy. You don’t want that qb controversy nonsense all off-season if you’re the niners.

  9. Trey, stay healthy and you can control your own destiny – as opposed to having to cross your fingers.

  10. patsfan4lifedynasty says:
    January 18, 2023 at 9:57 am
    The Patriots should trade Mac Jones for Trey Lance. It make sense for both teams.

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    Laughable.

    Your Jets just scapegoated the OC because Joe Douglas actually took Wilson #2 overall and he’s not worth anything for a return.

  11. chickensalad43 says:
    January 18, 2023 at 10:10 am
    Trade Trey Lance for a first round pick and move on. Don’t get caught up in recouping the other two picks. Purdy is the guy. You don’t want that qb controversy nonsense all off-season if you’re the niners.
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    I don’t think they will get a first round pick for him. Purdy may be the guy, too early to say. He’s looked good so far but many QB’s look good for a few starts then fade.

  12. Earlier this year I thought a Lance for Zach Wilson would be an interesting “change of scenery” type deal for both teams and players. But now Brock has emerged.

  13. Trade what? A 5th? A 6th?

    What is a lottery ticket worth after the numbers are called and you didn’t win?

  14. 2 young qb’s on the cheap is a dream for a roster that needs to sign Bosa, Aiyuk, McGlinchey and friends.

  15. Best case scenario for both Trey and the 49ers is for Trey to stick around one more season as a backup. I love Brock but doubt he starts all 17 games next season due to his smaller frame and his style of play where he tries to keep plays alive.

    Trey can likely show what he can do in a QB friendly offense in a limited capacity next year, and as Jimmy G showed, you can parlay a limited number of starts into a huge payday if you play your cards right.

  16. It makes a lot of sense, if you’re the guy the team traded three 1sts for, and you’re now the 3rd best QB on your team, that you’d want to get out and go somewhere with absolutely zero expectations for success.

  17. Ya I don’t think that’s what Lance meant at all I just think he’s supporting a friend, fingers crossed everything workouts for you. People read wayyyyyy to much into what players post now a days.

    And the emergence of Brock Purdy will be short lived, he hasn’t been all that impressive he’s making wide open throws a lot of the time. Every defense Purdy has went up against has been bad, he’s an elite run game, great protection weapons. Purdy hasn’t been pressured , hasn’t had his run game shutdown, hasn’t had to play from behind and throw SF back into a game, the game has been very very easy with open well defined reads for him. Wait until he plays a good defense and faces some adversity this weekend we will then see why he was a 7th rd pick. People forget that UDFA QB Nick Mullens looked like a world beater in this same offense for a long stretch similar to Brock and when he faced adversity he came back down to earth.
    I think Purdy will be a very good backup and game manager type in this league but I don’t look at him as a franchise caliber QB by any means and I don’t think SF is ready to give up on Lance who They mortgaged their future trading away years of picks they haven’t begun to feel yet for Brock Purdy.

  18. Remember when Jimmy G was 7-0 as a starter and the 49ers had absolutely fleeced the Patriots for a true franchise QB? Maybe we should hold off on crowning Purdy for a just a little while.

  19. A young twenty-something should certainly know what emojis to use on social media. Thumbs up would have been a better choice, in this instance, unless he meant what people are speculating…

  20. pbdisciple says:
    January 18, 2023 at 9:34 am

    What would someone realistically trade for a QB that hasn’t really played yet and is coming off a broken ankle? I would agree that Ryan Tannehill isn’t your answer, but is Lance?
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    Why do PFT posters seem to think great QBs grow on trees? You said Tannehill isn’t the answer, so where else are you going to turn? The thing with Lance is his sample size is so small, he isn’t proven or unproven, so why not give the guy a shot? There isn’t a Mahomes or Brady around every corner as you guys seem to think.

  21. If Lance is not developing as some have mentioned, that says a LOT about his future. Shanahan has greatly developed all the skill players wherever he’s coached.

  22. chickensalad43 says:
    January 18, 2023 at 10:10 am
    Trade Trey Lance for a first round pick and move on. Don’t get caught up in recouping the other two picks. Purdy is the guy. You don’t want that qb controversy nonsense all off-season if you’re the niners.
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    Brock Purdy isn’t the guy long term just like Nick Mullens wasn’t and no one in their right mind is giving up a 1st round pick for a QB who’s proven to be a bust this far . Lance cannot read a defense or throw with accuracy consistently to save his life, he’s still a very bad Uber raw passer and with this latest injury he’s barely thrown any passes the last 3YRs. In 4 starts he has 3 injuries, no one is giving up a top pick with his injury history with what he’s put on tape. You’d be lucky to get a late 2nd and someone would have to really want him. If SF tries teasing him now they’d take a massive loss.

  23. Yeah, because the fingers crossed emoji has always been a simple representation of very complex, deep-seated thoughts and feelings.

  24. Is there something wrong with my eyes? Brock Purdy looks like he’s 5’9″ and about 180 lbs soaking wet. How is it that his half season of success suddenly annoints him as a “sure thing” such that the Niners should be pushing their other qb options out of town? He looks like he’s one bad hit away from Tua land.

  25. So Brock is small and Lance is bigger so somehow that translates into Lance being better?
    Drew Brees is small, he’ll be a HoFer. Stetson Bennett is the same size as Bryce Young, and Stetson just won his 2nd CFB National Championship. If QB size equates to success then Bryce Young should NOT be drafted in the 1st round.
    Accept that Lance sucks, trade him or keep him, no one cares.

  26. Trey is in an ideal position right now. Between Jimmy and Brock, the 49ers are in no hurry to get him back on the field, meaning he can continue collecting a paycheck in a professional league he is wholly unsuited for. The moment he’s traded for anything more valuable than a one legged kicker, he’s going to get exposed and the NFL money spigot will be cut off.

  27. Trey Lance, Zach Wilson – some of these top picks aren’t cutting it and later or late round guys like Mac Jones, Bailey Zappe, Brock Purdy, Kenny Picket are doing better. For every top 5 QB success is a top 5 QB flame out.
    So is it coaching or the players or the scouting?
    Remember the debate over Drew Bledsoe or Rick Mirer as #1? (NE took Bledsoe). Rick who, you say?

  28. Accuracy… That is why Purdy is far better than Lance. Purdy hits WR’s in stride, allowing for their insane YAC numbers…. I watched Lance live, the kid is not accurate at all. WR’s have to stop and wait for the ball to get to them.

  29. Haven’t fully embraced him?? The Niners embellished his injuries to cover for how awful Lance looked in 2021. Then they handed him the starting job in 2022 with no competition in camp, until they realized he couldn’t cut it and brought back Jimmy. It’s on the Niners for making a terrible pick in Lance, but they’ve given him every opportunity to show he’s an NFL QB and he hasn’t been able to do it.

  30. I hope being traded is not what Trey meant. That would mean he feels entitled to a starting spot.

    Right now Trey’s best value is to the 49ers as a QB that’s been in their system for the past 2 years. Trey is of little value to anyone else because he hasn’t played much and is coming off an injury. The 49ers would be lucky to get a 4th rounder and a case of beer for Lance (and I like the kid…I think he has talent). So Lance is most valuable to the 49ers as knowledgeable (in the offensive system) back up and potential starter (should Purdy stumble).

    Unless Ran Carthon offers up a first rounder for Lance….then the 49ers should take it and run. And Titans should just fire Ran Carthon now if he did that.

  31. The blind luck factor with Purdy was cosmic retribution for the colossal mistake the 49ers made with Lance. With drafting, you win some, you lose most. Cut your losses, move on and marvel in the fact that you got so lucky with the last pick in the draft. Moving forward, Lance is nothing more than a distraction for the 49ers.

  32. I don’t get why he would post that, but my sense is that he’s crossing his fingers that he still has a place to compete for the starter in SF given all that has happened.

  33. It’s not Lances fault the Niners reached for a kid who truly wasn’t ready for the NFL.

  34. He’s simply wishing him good luck. If he’s the type of QB that would allow Purdy to “transfer” him without a fight then he’s definitely not the QB the 49ers thought he was when they drafted him.

    But no, he’s just wishing Carthon good luck and best wishes.

  35. they have Malik Willis. Honestly, think that’s the same as having Trey Lance. And they spent only a third rd pick on the young man. Give Willis some time, some TLC, some actual receivers and an offseason to get it all down, and see what you’ve got. Much cheaper salary, much cheaper price tag.

  36. He just needs to accept the fact that he’s not a superstar and be happy collecting a paycheck on the sidelines.

  37. Based on a small sample, the 49ers went with Kaepernick and traded proven QB Alex Smith away in 2012. Now I’m not saying Lance is proven, but having two good QB options is something teams like Miami and yes, the 49ers should be happy to have after experiencing how quickly and easily you can be down to the third stringer.

  38. Solid RB and a good coach. Why wouldn’t he wanna be the guy? I think Purdy has given us enough tape to earn the start, lance is expendable. Picks aside, I just think this season was so weird for the team and they had no idea what they had in Purdy that it’s just too hard to not ride with him? I don’t know. Seahawks fan. And frustrated that Mr Irrelevant ate our lunch.

  39. I don’t think “fingers crossed” is how you wish someone luck with a job they already have. You cross your fingers when you’re hoping for something that hasn’t come to pass – like that someone gets a job when they’re up for one. Or, that someone gets an opportunity that hasn’t materialized yet.

    I can’t blame him for seeing the writing on the wall and wanting a shot somewhere else.

    It’s kind of funny how it goes. If not for Garoppolo’s injuries, they wouldn’t have drafted Lance. If not for whatever way Lance didn’t seize the day, they wouldn’t have drafted Purdy. Purdy is arguably already worth it, but if they make it to the Super Bowl, they will have accomplished everything they set out to do with the huge price they paid for Lance, but in the most roundabout way imaginable.

  40. Hey Mike

    Have to hand it to you.
    You know how to create content that fans respond to one way or another.

    But really – seriously c’mon man…….

  41. I like to drop Jordan Love in my comments now but seriously, why not him over Lance?? Love will want out of GB if AAron stays.

  42. They are not going to trade Trey. If he is trying to send a message this is the worst time to do that while they’re making a playoff run. The players on the team as well as other teams would realize he doesn’t want to fight for a starting job.

  43. Why not trade Lance to a team like Houston, loaded with picks and will need to time to build a team and give Lance a chance to grow as QB. Cut our losses, we won’t get two first round picks back for him, that was a mistake on our part in the first place. Maybe wait until pre-season and see what we can for Lance. I don’t think it will be good for anyone, having a guy with a high draft pick sitting on the bench behind a guy that was drafted last.

  44. The reality of this season proves you wrong. The 49ers, regardless of what happened in 1 draft, has survived just fine without any production from that deal.
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    touchback6 says:
    January 18, 2023 at 9:38 am
    If SF does not win the SB in the next 2 years, this draft pick and the eventual downfall of the 49ers franchise over this move, will be a disaster.

    And, don’t think because you picked him #3 overall that somehow he’s worth a high draft pick.

    TB is already heading down a path of destruction for years to come and SF won’t be far behind.

  45. getem says:
    January 18, 2023 at 9:57 am
    I’d offer a carton of eggs for him, but with the cost of eggs so high it’s a hard pass.
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    My local store was entirely out of eggs last week. I wonder if they’d trade him for future eggs in 2024 & 2025.

  46. Lance was “embraced” immediately when they traded 3 first round picks for him. What happened was that Lance wasn’t very good and they knew they made a huge mistake. But hats off to San Fran, as they are still one of the best teams in the NFL despite the waste of 3 high picks and a lower one. Actually amazing.

  47. touchback6 says:
    January 18, 2023 at 9:38 am
    If SF does not win the SB in the next 2 years, this draft pick and the eventual downfall of the 49ers franchise over this move, will be a disaster.

    And, don’t think because you picked him #3 overall that somehow he’s worth a high draft pick.

    TB is already heading down a path of destruction for years to come and SF won’t be far behind.

    And, I am not sure why anyone would be trading or investinng in a QB that is on social media acting all passive-aggressive either. The immatutrity is off the charts.
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    Not sure if you watched any football the past few years but the fact that San Fran literally got nothing from the multiple picks used to draft Lance yet they’ve still not skipped a beat, and have been an elite team, says they are going nowhere. I think they will do the right thing in most likely trading him and moving on because Purdy looks legit, but having two dirt cheap potential QB”s isn’t the worst problem to have. Jets would kill for just one.

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