Andy Reid going for his 20th postseason win; only Bill Belichick has more

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Chiefs coach Andy Reid is going for Postseason Win No. 20 tomorrow against the Jaguars.

Reid is currently third all-time among NFL head coaches with 19 postseason wins. Tom Landry is No. 2 with 20, and Bill Belichick is No. 1 with 31. So if the Chiefs win on Saturday, Reid will move into a tie for second with Landry, and only Belichick will have more.

Reid is also attempting to lead the Chiefs to the AFC Championship Game for the fifth time. Reid also led the Eagles to the NFC Championship Game five times, and getting to a 10th conference championship would also tie Landry for second all-time. Belichick has coached the Patriots to 13 AFC Championship Games.

In addition to Belichick, Landry and Reid, the all-time Top 5 head coaches in postseason wins are Don Shula with 19 and Joe Gibbs with 17.

95 responses to “Andy Reid going for his 20th postseason win; only Bill Belichick has more

  1. So if the Chiefs make it to the AFC Title game, that’s 5 IN A ROW. When do we start saying “give someone else a chance”, you know like many did for that other team?

  2. Unlike BB who can’t win without Brady, Andy has won in the postseason with several QBs.

  3. If Reid ran more and passed less, he would have banked at least 2 or 3 more Lombardi trophies

  4. MortimerInMiami says:
    January 20, 2023 at 8:55 am

    Unlike BB who can’t win without Brady, Andy has won in the postseason with several QBs.

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    Lol. Let’s switch Mahomes with Mac Jones and see how many postseason games Andy wins.

  5. Of the five coaches named above, only two average more than 1 playoff win per season coached: Belichick (1.11) and Gibbs (1.10).

  6. “He should run more and pass less.” “He should manage the clock better.” The man is one of the best to ever do what he does and all the haters can do is criticize.

    Just sad.

  7. Unlike BB who can’t win without Brady, Andy has won in the postseason with several QBs.

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    He’s a great coach. But he also has five one and dones in the playoffs in 24 years of coaching. His playoff record is 19-16. He has been to 3 SBs and won 1. Two of those appearances and the win were with Mahomes , who is great. Before Mahomes he coached for 20 years and went 12-13 in the playoffs with 1 SB appearance

  8. Doug Pederson is a better coach than Andy Reid. The Chiefs will probably win this weekend, but next year and beyond The Jags will be a real force to reckon with.

  9. Good for Andy. He’s made great strides as a coach, and overcome the horrific clock management baffles that plagued him early in his career. Won the golden ticket with Pat Mahommes, as well.

  10. All the great players and coaches have just about been eliminated from the record book as the league progressed towards passing and longer seasons.I realize the NFL from the pre 80s would be considered boring by today’s standard but those men built this league and their names get erased with each rule change and additional game .

  11. MortimerInMiami says:
    January 20, 2023 at 8:55 am
    Unlike BB who can’t win without Brady, Andy has won in the postseason with several QBs.

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    Unlike Brady who just failed miserable with a sub .500 season, his first ever as Coach and GM after havint the coach fired, now to leave Tampa in a shambles. No Gronk and Antonio Brown to make it easy on him. Those cap hell decisions last a VERY short amount of time.

    NE trending UP, Brady’s team trending down. Get it?

    Brady owes his entire existence to Bill Belichick drafting and developing him.

    You saying the same Goebbelsesque misiformation over and over doesn’t make it true. BB owned 2 SB rings when Brady was shuffling through the Victoria’s Secret catalog back in the early 90s.

    He’s won PLENTY without Brady. Matt Cassel, Garoppolo, etc, all say hello.

  12. It must just be me but these numbers seemed low when I read the article. I would have guessed much higher across the board.

  13. touchback6 says:
    January 20, 2023 at 10:01 am
    MortimerInMiami says:
    January 20, 2023 at 8:55 am
    Unlike BB who can’t win without Brady, Andy has won in the postseason with several QBs.

    ——————-

    Unlike Brady who just failed miserable with a sub .500 season, his first ever as Coach and GM after havint the coach fired, now to leave Tampa in a shambles. No Gronk and Antonio Brown to make it easy on him. Those cap hell decisions last a VERY short amount of time.

    NE trending UP, Brady’s team trending down. Get it?

    Brady owes his entire existence to Bill Belichick drafting and developing him.

    You saying the same Goebbelsesque misiformation over and over doesn’t make it true. BB owned 2 SB rings when Brady was shuffling through the Victoria’s Secret catalog back in the early 90s.

    He’s won PLENTY without Brady. Matt Cassel, Garoppolo, etc, all say hello

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    All that needs to be said is for the first time Brady didn’t have elite coaching (Belichick and Arians) and he finished with a losing record. I will not acknowledge Tommy making the playoffs because he didn’t belong there and his showed. It was a complete failure. If Tommy is only great with elite coaching… is he really great at all?

  14. Andy Reid is a fantastic coach. He helped make the eagles relevant after the dark Braman years. He took the chiefs from a long stretch of mediocrity to a perennial contender. His players have all spoken highly of him and his coaching tree is highly successful. When he decides to hang up his clip board there will be a gold jacket tailored up for him.

  15. MortimerInMiami says:
    January 20, 2023 at 8:55 am
    Unlike BB who can’t win without Brady, Andy has won in the postseason with several QBs

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    And yet Shula had Marino and won squat

  16. Lol. Let’s switch Mahomes with Mac Jones and see how many postseason games Andy wins

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    Ok, let’s switch me and McNabb and see how Belichick does

  17. If he’d stop getting the 1 seed, he’d have 4-5 more wins just from not having the bye. Cmon Andy, lose more regular season games man, pad those stats! (Sarcasm).

  18. BB owned 2 SB rings when Brady was shuffling through the Victoria’s Secret catalog back in the early 90s

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    Bill Parcels owns those rings. And without Tom Brady, BB’s record makes Jeff Fisher look good

  19. Andy is a great coach but his clock management and his ability to get out schemed either pre game or 2nd half is the reason why he’s only won one Super Bowl. I also believe McNabb was the quintessential choker too (literally). Reid should at least have one Super Bowl title with Philly.

  20. Brett Favre, Donovan McNabb, and Patrick Mahommes. Being good at your job and a bit of good fortune will help advance your career.

  21. bigbluedeadhead says:
    January 20, 2023 at 8:44 am
    Wow, Eagles really let go of a big fish.

    Yes, but then the they won the Super Bowl!

  22. GoodellMustGo says:
    January 20, 2023 at 9:05 am
    Took two different teams to the Super Bowl and won one so far. Respect

    Lost three of the four NFC championship games he was in…and his team was favored.

  23. Reid wasn’t far off from coaching the first repeat since Bill in 2003-04.

    If the Chiefs starting tackles weren’t injured he very likely would have gotten it. Either way I think he’s getting close to the top tier of coaches if he’s not there already.

  24. Lol. Let’s switch Mahomes with Mac Jones and see how many postseason games Andy wins


    Eh not gonna go there. Why talk Reid down. He’s a great coach. Every coach needs good players to win. Bill too. It’s a players game.

  25. minime says:
    January 20, 2023 at 10:46 am
    And only ONE championship.

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    Yep.

    He’s Schottenheimer with a ring. Or, Dick Vermeil. Nice career, certainly consistent, but not elite.

  26. pats92 says:
    January 20, 2023 at 9:02 am
    If he managed the clock better, he’d be top 2 all time with Belichick.

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    With Mahomes, he still might finish very high on the list if he can keep coaching for a while.

  27. nhpats2011 says:
    January 20, 2023 at 10:33 am
    BB owned 2 SB rings when Brady was shuffling through the Victoria’s Secret catalog back in the early 90s

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    Bill Parcels owns those rings.

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    Parcells minus BB on his staff = Dave Wannestedt. It’s true. That is his W-L record without BB on his staff.

    We do know for sure that Tommy minus elite coaching (BB, Arians) = losing record. I don’t acknowledge that playoff berth, he didn’t belong there and proved it. He’s a failure without elite coaching. Weird.

  28. Parcells minus BB on his staff

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    In Giants, while Parcel gave Belichick all the resources a DC could ask for to build defense, Parcel still gave him top offense in 1986 with a RB of 1500+ yards; in 1990 season playoff, Parcel’s offense stayed on field for 39 minutes in NFCCG against 49ers, and 40+ minutes in SB against Bills.

    “Parcel call Terry Glenn ‘She'”. I think you are old enough to know it. Parcel wanted to draft a defender for Belichick the garbage, but overruled by Mr. Kraft. Basically, Parcel couldn’t build the team after Giants like the way he built Giants.

    Belichick’s way of building a team is exact the same way Parcel built Giants, but Belichick the garbage simple didn’t know how to build offense to save his defense. That is why he couldn’t even won a divisional title without Brady.

    Belichick the garbage not only stole credit from Brady, he also stole credit from his mentor.

  29. MortimerInMiami says:
    January 20, 2023 at 8:55 am
    Unlike BB who can’t win without Brady, Andy has won in the postseason with several QBs.
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    These are the worst takes. It doesn’t make sense to penalize a coach for having a long run of success with a single quarterback. Who’s better, Coach A that wins 2 Super Bowls with different quarterbacks, or Coach B that wins 3 Super Bowls with the same quarterback. No easy answer, but with Bill also being the GM, I would think he would get credit for keeping a winning QB on the team for so many years.

  30. Of course, only a modern coach is going to have that many postseason wins since the profileration of playoff games makes it possible.

    Jim Thome has more postseason home runs than Babe Ruth. But it’s not because Thome was the better player.

  31. bigbluedeadhead says:
    January 20, 2023 at 8:44 am
    Wow, Eagles really let go of a big fish.

    ——

    But at the time, they had gone 8-8 twice and then fell to 4-12 in his last year. It was the “dream team” era.

    The locker room of players that he himself had acquired (he was basically the personnel guy) had tuned him out.

    Parting ways with Andy worked out well for the Eagles. They have made 7 playoff appearances since he left, and won a SB *after* he left, not while he was there.

  32. nhpats2011 says:
    January 20, 2023 at 10:33 am
    BB owned 2 SB rings when Brady was shuffling through the Victoria’s Secret catalog back in the early 90s

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    Bill Parcels owns those rings. And without Tom Brady, BB’s record makes Jeff Fisher look good

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    Bill Parcells talked a big game and said a lot of quotable things, but don’t forget: he was only around a foot wide right from being the only head coach to lose a SB to the Buffalo Bills.

    And he and BB would’ve only had one ring if that kick was good.

  33. legionofzoom says:
    January 20, 2023 at 9:23 am
    “He should run more and pass less.” “He should manage the clock better.” The man is one of the best to ever do what he does and all the haters can do is criticize.

    Just sad.

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    Oh please…until he won a SB in KC, he was a walking punchline who couldn’t win the big one, because a., his run-to-pass ratio was so out of whack and b., the bigger the game and the closer the score, the worse his clock management was.

    Lots of near misses didn’t matter to most people. Then after one SB win we’re all supposed to just shake our heads disapprovingly at anyone who points out the flaws of his coaching? What are we supposed to do? Pretend those problems didn’t exist?

  34. Andy is going to walk into the Pro Football Hall of Fame when he retires. If he gets to the Super Bowl this year that would be his fourth appearance. Not many in the history of the NFL have his credentials.

  35. One of Ron Wolfs biggest mistakes; not promoting Andy when Holmgren left for Seattle.

    Still stings, for this fan.

  36. Lots of wins, not a lot of SB wins.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Eagles would have been a greater dynasty with Brady and Andy Reid.

    The team built by Belichick wouldn’t have won a single SB with any other QB, because the talents he put around Brady wouldn’t be enough for other QB to do what Brady did.

    FYI, 1999 Rams offense scored only 11 points against Bucs defense in NFCCG; scored only 23 points against Titans #15 defense. 2000 Rams offense scored only 7 point till the scored was 7-31 with only 9:30 minutes left.

    Lot of coaches could have done what Belichick did or could have done better with the resource he invested on defense.

  37. He’s Schottenheimer with a ring. Or, Dick Vermeil. Nice career, certainly consistent, but not elite.
    ==========

    Vermeil was just enshrined in Canton…………

  38. Good for Andy. He’s learned over the years, gotten better and risen to the top. He and Mahomes respect and compliment each other very well, and Andy is the first to acknowledge Mahomes’ brilliance.

  39. He’s Schottenheimer with a ring. Or, Dick Vermeil. Nice career, certainly consistent, but not

    You seem to forget two gentlemen never had to cheat to win or get punished for it. Also they were able to treat the media as people which Grumpy Ole Bill can’t seem to master.

  40. Counterpoint: he is going for his 17th since it is clear to everyone that the SB run was 100% engineered by Mahomes and his overcoming Reid’s playoff coaching deficiencies.

  41. William Lee says:
    January 20, 2023 at 11:54 am

    Lots of wins, not a lot of SB wins.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Eagles would have been a greater dynasty with Brady and Andy Reid.

    The team built by Belichick wouldn’t have won a single SB with any other QB, because the talents he put around Brady wouldn’t be enough for other QB to do what Brady did.

    FYI, 1999 Rams offense scored only 11 points against Bucs defense in NFCCG; scored only 23 points against Titans #15 defense. 2000 Rams offense scored only 7 point till the scored was 7-31 with only 9:30 minutes left.

    Lot of coaches could have done what Belichick did or could have done better with the resource he invested on defense.

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    Todd Bowles and all the fired Tampa coaches would disagree.

  42. MortimerInMiami says:
    January 20, 2023 at 11:09 am
    BB minus Brady = Jeff Fisher

    57Rate This

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    Fisher doesn’t have 2 rings as a DC and a gameplan in Canton, OH.

    Terrible example.

  43. patsfan4lifedynasty says:
    January 20, 2023 at 9:22 am

    MortimerInMiami says:
    January 20, 2023 at 8:55 am

    Unlike BB who can’t win without Brady, Andy has won in the postseason with several QBs.

    ————

    Lol. Let’s switch Mahomes with Mac Jones and see how many postseason games Andy wins.
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    Exactly, and no way am I a Patriots fan. But I’m so sick of these shots aimed at BB since Brady left. BB has done a fantastic job as head coach, especially in the early years when Brady was nothing but a game manager winning most games with a late FG. That’s coaching!! And the fact that he went to playoffs with Mac Jones and inferior players proves his greatness. BB is a better coach than Reid, don’t get it twisted. One guy is offense and one is defense and BB has engineered some incredible historical NFL wins, Reid not so much.

  44. It’s a fact that Andy Reid has done this with a #1, #2, and #10 OVERALL Draft Pick at QB. It’s very difficult to win without a top flight QB. People are ragging on Belichick but short of having Bledsoe for one rebuilding season, he has had #199, and then a broken down Cam Newton and a #15 for two seasons. Belichick’s list of Division, Conference, and Super Bowl Championships dwarfs Reid’s. Belichick teams also were 4 of the top 20 scoring offenses of all time. Reid is good, but I’d hold off on handing him any crowns.

    For the cheating crowd, be aware that most teams if not all have had rules violations. For example, the Steelers were secretly starting training camp six weeks early up in Wisconsin in the 70’s when they won the bulk of their accomplishments. They lost a 3rd round pick when caught. Should have been more. Then there is the steroid issues and painkillers. So enough with the “he video taped from the wrong angle/location,” or “ball pressure” crap. The Patriots were destroying the NFL’s precious parity and had to be stopped. Docking 1st round picks is one way to help accomplish that….but it did not work. Nobody will ever match the Patriots and Belichick’s records. It should ne noted though that this all started in 1993 when Kraft bought the team. They are the NFL’s winningest franchise of the last three decades, which was also ironically the beginning of the salary cap era, so there was no hand picking and stacking of teams like there was in the past. It’s not close. Toss in Belichick being the defacto GM and nobody does more and accomplishes more then Belichick. He should be the next NFL Commissioner, or hold some other position where he can help direct the future of the game. His first move would be to make all plays subject to a Coaches Challenge and eliminate the subjective control the NFL maintains in crucial game situations.

  45. WLee:
    Belichick the garbage not only stole credit from Brady, he also stole credit from his mentor.

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    Don’t hurt yourself doing all those gymnastics.

    Parcells is .500 coach with BB….and Parcells knows it, otherwise he wouldn’t have hired him for three different teams and had him on staff for 15 years

    Unless you think Parcells doesn’t know what he’s doing

  46. We are Very Lucky to have Andy Reid in Kansas City.
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    Reid is very lucky he has Mahomes in KC.

  47. The Birds have a nasty habit of firing their best head coaches.
    Amazing how much success those 2 are having now that they escaped Philly.

  48. Bill Parcells talked a big game and said a lot of quotable things, but don’t forget: he was only around a foot wide right from being the only head coach to lose a SB to the Buffalo Bills.
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    If the Bills had won that game, who knows how it may have changed their fortune going forward.

  49. He has a chance of catching belichick. As long as mahomes is healthy and Reid continues to coach he could own tue record in 4-5 years.

    And Brady having one losing season without an ‘elite’ coach is indicative of him but Belichick having one playoff win in 9 seasons without Brady still means he’s the goat coach. Makes sense 🤔

  50. therealtrenches says:
    January 20, 2023 at 11:34 am
    nhpats2011 says:
    January 20, 2023 at 10:33 am
    BB owned 2 SB rings when Brady was shuffling through the Victoria’s Secret catalog back in the early 90s

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    Bill Parcels owns those rings. And without Tom Brady, BB’s record makes Jeff Fisher look good

    —–

    Bill Parcells talked a big game and said a lot of quotable things, but don’t forget: he was only around a foot wide right from being the only head coach to lose a SB to the Buffalo Bills.

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    Parcells also managed only a .500 record with the Patriots despite having Drew Bledsoe from the very beginning. His contributions to the Patriots beyond his name brand and bringing Bill Belichick into the organization are overstated.

  51. the bottom line, ‘cuz Stone Cold says:
    January 20, 2023 at 1:19 pm
    Bill Parcells talked a big game and said a lot of quotable things, but don’t forget: he was only around a foot wide right from being the only head coach to lose a SB to the Buffalo Bills.
    ==========

    If the Bills had won that game, who knows how it may have changed their fortune going forward.


    Yes they went to 4 in a row but realistically that probably was their one and only shot at a Super Bowl during that run.

    The next season they were still really good but ran into Washington which was one of the best teams in league history. The two Bills teams that lost to the Cowboys were not nearly as good as the first two teams.

  52. BB has done a fantastic job as head coach, especially in the early years when Brady was nothing but a game manager winning most games with a late FG.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I suggest you to compare Pats between 2001 and 2006 to the Browns in 90s under Belichick, the talents were on the same level.

    With that squad, Brady had to help the team get first round bye (3 comebacks in 2003 and 5 comebacks in 2005), deliver winning drives in SB, score 24 or more in back to back playoff games.

    Name another QB who would be able to do it with the squad given by BeliCHEAP.

  53. 3 comebacks in 2001 and 5 comebacks in 2003

    and in 2002 and 2005, with below average defense from Belichick the garbage, Brady had to produce top offense to keep Patriots afloat.

  54. touchback6 says:
    January 20, 2023 at 10:01 am
    MortimerInMiami says:
    January 20, 2023 at 8:55 am
    Unlike BB who can’t win without Brady, Andy has won in the postseason with several QBs.

    ——————-

    Unlike Brady who just failed miserable with a sub .500 season, his first ever as Coach and GM after havint the coach fired, now to leave Tampa in a shambles. No Gronk and Antonio Brown to make it easy on him. Those cap hell decisions last a VERY short amount of time.

    NE trending UP, Brady’s team trending down. Get it?

    Brady owes his entire existence to Bill Belichick drafting and developing him.

    You saying the same Goebbelsesque misiformation over and over doesn’t make it true. BB owned 2 SB rings when Brady was shuffling through the Victoria’s Secret catalog back in the early 90s.

    He’s won PLENTY without Brady. Matt Cassel, Garoppolo, etc, all say hello
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    NE is trending up? Their division is getting tougher. NE was 1-6 against opponents that finished 2022 with a winning record. Won plenty without Brady? In his 10 total seasons as a HC without a guy named Brady behind center, BB has never been to the SB. In those 10 seasons, 7 were finished with a losing record. BB developed Brady? Then he should’ve had multiple Brady in waiting QBs to take over. Right?

  55. BB has done a fantastic job as head coach, especially in the early years when Brady was nothing but a game manager winning most games with a late FG.

    The False narrative that Brady was Just a game manager from 01-06
    Charlie Weiss himself called this false

    2002 Brady was third in the league behind Bledsoe and Gannon with 602 passes. Sorry but if you are throwing over 600 times you are not just “managing the game

    Threw the ball over 500 times 4 out of those 5 seasons. Led the league in passing yards in 2005

    Brady 2002 pass attempts 601 3764 yards 28 tds (led the league) and 14 int.
    Manning 2002 pass attempts. 591 4200 yards 27 tds 19 ints

    So the stats are almost the same But one is a “game manager “ the other was a “field general “

  56. “..The real number that counts is Super Bowl wins! Not post season game wins!!..”

    The real number that counts is Super Bowl wins without cheating.

  57. I am a long-term Patriots fan with memories f watching the team in the last couple years of having Jim Plunkett as a QB and having a Steve Grogan poster in my room next to my Jim Rice poster.

    I couldn’t care less if Belichick needed Brady or Brady needed Belichick. That’s the nature of a true relationship right? The fact remains, the combination of the coach and QB worked and a team was constructed that was a two decades long dynasty. That is all fact.

    Play “what-ifs” all you want because they are not reality, records are reality and won’t be changed.

    At the end of the day, what have the Jets, Dolphins, Bills, Browns, Chargers, Bears, and Jaguars done over the past two, three, or four decades? The answer is a simple “nothing.” They have been a revolving door for coaches, staffs, and especially QBs. They also gave teams that have lots of higher draft picks.

    The teams that win consistently in the NFL, or at any professional level, have stable coaching staffs and stability at key positions like quarterback.

    My what-if? What if the Jets or Dolphins or Browns or name any losing franchise had Belichick and Brady, and stable ownership for two decades? I bet their fan bases would’ve been pretty happy.

  58. 3 comebacks in 2001 and 5 comebacks in 2003
    =========

    2001 Patriots – allowed 17 points per game
    2003 Patriots – allowed 15 points per game (14.9)

    Trent Dilfer was capable of putting up 17-20 points per game…….

  59. Yes they went to 4 in a row but realistically that probably was their one and only shot at a Super Bowl during that run.

    The next season they were still really good but ran into Washington which was one of the best teams in league history. The two Bills teams that lost to the Cowboys were not nearly as good as the first two teams.
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    That 1991 Washington team is one of the most underrated teams of that era. Dallas was obviously a juggernaut. But if you have them coming in as a young team, facing a 2x champ?

    Fun to speculate. We’ll never know.

  60. the bottom line, ‘cuz Stone Cold says:
    January 20, 2023 at 2:47 pm
    Yes they went to 4 in a row but realistically that probably was their one and only shot at a Super Bowl during that run.

    The next season they were still really good but ran into Washington which was one of the best teams in league history. The two Bills teams that lost to the Cowboys were not nearly as good as the first two teams.
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    That 1991 Washington team is one of the most underrated teams of that era. Dallas was obviously a juggernaut. But if you have them coming in as a young team, facing a 2x champ?

    Fun to speculate. We’ll never know.

    —-
    Yup. Good point

  61. the bottom line, ‘cuz Stone Cold says:
    January 20, 2023 at 2:35 pm
    3 comebacks in 2001 and 5 comebacks in 2003
    =========

    2001 Patriots – allowed 17 points per game
    2003 Patriots – allowed 15 points per game (14.9)

    Trent Dilfer was capable of putting up 17-20 points per game…….

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    Tom Brady had 145 yards passing in his first Super Bowl. Was under 100 until 2 minutes left in the game.

    And he won MVP lolololol. He wouldn’t even be in my top 3 on my ballot.

  62. 2001 Patriots – allowed 17 points per game
    2003 Patriots – allowed 15 points per game (14.9)

    Trent Dilfer was capable of putting up 17-20 points per game…….

    Dilfer led a team that had a top 10 scoring offense

    Patriots scoring offense from 01 -06 , was a top ten scoring offense 5 out of those 6 seasons

    So regardless of the points allowed the offense was also good

    2001 6th in scoring offense
    2002 10th in scoring offense
    2004 4th in scoring offense
    2005 10th in scoring offense
    2006 7th in scoring offense

  63. Ty Law should have been selected MVP of the Pats first Super Bowl win, but Tom Brady is the Greatest NFL Player of All-time, and Bill Belichick is the Greatest NFL Coach and Head Coach of All-Time.

  64. I have a new appreciation for Reid after his hilarious spot in the State Farm commercial.

  65. So the stats are almost the same But one is a “game manager “ the other was a “field general “
    _____________________________________

    Right, we all saw the games. Brady threw 5-yard passes with YAC. Manning made incredible downfield throws fooling the D at the line and won MVP trophies. Don’t twist it.

  66. “The real number that counts is Super Bowl wins without cheating.”
    Still don’t 7th grade science??? Seriously!!!

  67. All-time great quarterbacks are the key to all-time great coaches. Think Reid would have a SB win if he stuck with Alex Smith? No chance.

  68. FoozieGrooler says:
    January 20, 2023 at 2:28 pm
    “..The real number that counts is Super Bowl wins! Not post season game wins!!..”

    The real number that counts is Super Bowl wins without cheating.
    —-
    Guess your Steelers have zero then. #DrRydze

  69. thaswussup says:
    January 20, 2023 at 12:47 pm
    It’s a fact that Andy Reid has done this with a #1, #2, and #10 OVERALL Draft Pick at QB. It’s very difficult to win without a top flight QB. People are ragging on Belichick but short of having Bledsoe for one rebuilding season, he has had #199, and then a broken down Cam Newton and a #15 for two seasons. Belichick’s list of Division, Conference, and Super Bowl Championships dwarfs Reid’s. Belichick teams also were 4 of the top 20 scoring offenses of all time. Reid is good, but I’d hold off on handing him any crowns.

    For the cheating crowd, be aware that most teams if not all have had rules violations. For example, the Steelers were secretly starting training camp six weeks early up in Wisconsin in the 70’s when they won the bulk of their accomplishments. They lost a 3rd round pick when caught. Should have been more. Then there is the steroid issues and painkillers. So enough with the “he video taped from the wrong angle/location,” or “ball pressure” crap. The Patriots were destroying the NFL’s precious parity and had to be stopped. Docking 1st round picks is one way to help accomplish that….but it did not work. Nobody will ever match the Patriots and Belichick’s records. It should ne noted though that this all started in 1993 when Kraft bought the team. They are the NFL’s winningest franchise of the last three decades, which was also ironically the beginning of the salary cap era, so there was no hand picking and stacking of teams like there was in the past. It’s not close. Toss in Belichick being the defacto GM and nobody does more and accomplishes more then Belichick. He should be the next NFL Commissioner, or hold some other position where he can help direct the future of the game. His first move would be to make all plays subject to a Coaches Challenge and eliminate the subjective control the NFL maintains in crucial game situations.

    31Rate This

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    Yep.

    When you learn later that the Pats never cheated and Goodell was caught lying/framing to be able to steal picks, it makes what Goodell and the cheating owners tried to do, and had some success with it (SB 42 distraction, SB 46 no 1st pick on the field and SB 52 with stolen 1st and 4th over another lie), it makes the Pats accomplishments even that much more impressive.

  70. Parcells also managed only a .500 record with the Patriots despite having Drew Bledsoe from the very beginning. His contributions to the Patriots beyond his name brand and bringing Bill Belichick into the organization are overstated.
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    Belichick went 5-11 in 2000, with Bledsoe starting all 16 games. The previous 2 seasons, Bledsoe was 8-8 and 8-6 as the starter under Carroll. It was all me. All of it.

  71. This is mainly happening because BB had Brady & Reid has Mahomes & secondarily becuse they are as old as dirt.

  72. Belichick went 5-11 in 2000, with Bledsoe starting all 16 games. The previous 2 seasons, Bledsoe was 8-8 and 8-6 as the starter under Carroll. It was all me. All of it.

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    The team BeliCHEAP gave to Brady was like a copy of Browns of 90s under BeliCHEAP.

  73. Yep.

    When you learn later that the Pats never cheated and Goodell was caught lying/framing to be able to steal picks, it makes what Goodell and the cheating owners tried to do, and had some success with it (SB 42 distraction, SB 46 no 1st pick on the field and SB 52 with stolen 1st and 4th over another lie), it makes the Pats accomplishments even that much more impressive.
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    Brady cheated. Those text messages and the smashed cell phone don’t lie,

  74. GoodellMustGo says:
    January 20, 2023 at 5:10 pm
    Yep.

    When you learn later that the Pats never cheated and Goodell was caught lying/framing to be able to steal picks, it makes what Goodell and the cheating owners tried to do, and had some success with it (SB 42 distraction, SB 46 no 1st pick on the field and SB 52 with stolen 1st and 4th over another lie), it makes the Pats accomplishments even that much more impressive.
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    Brady cheated. Those text messages and the smashed cell phone don’t lie,

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    The text nessages submitted actually absolve Brady. He was pissed on 10.14.14 that the warm weather made them feel over-inflated.

    There is no way you read the Wells Reporr with its 56 lies in it.

    And, again, there is no way you are a Pats fan. I don’t know one Pats fan that didn’t think it smelled from the beginning and then eventually saw Goodell exposed in a federal court with it. And, that’s even counting the Goodell use of ESPN to lie to shape public perception. It’s scary you keep triplling down on your embarrassing naivete.

    There is no evidence whatsoever, or science or reality that McNally went into a private bathroom and in 90 seconds (why would he need to rush? lol), speedily deflated 12 balls. lmao

    The security footage was available trom prior games and it wasn’t submitted in the Wells Report. Hmm. Gee, I wonder why?

    Submitting an out of order and nonsensical series of joke texts, is not evidence. Cops and prosecutors try to do that stuff to get convictions and it’s usually easily blown wide open in a court because it’s so obvious what the desperation is by the prosecutor to get a conviction.

    There is no way you are a Pats fan. No way. There is not one person in the world who is a Pats fan believes Goodell and there is no wat Brady would ever lie to Kraft and BBs face either because they want to do right by the league and certainly didn’t want all that drama, which is partly why the cheating owners were callin weekly asking Goodell to do anything to frame them. He resisted for while, but on e Brady verbally slapped Whinebaugh the week before, the framejob was on. Any Pats fan knows this. You are not a Pats fan so you don’t know the facts.

    Like the “smashing” of the phone…That’s Goodell’s language. Brady offered his phone to Wells. Wells refused it because they were going to use the equipment guys phones anyway to frame.

    Brafy bought a new phone because Goodell was leaking out the emails Brady submitted and he got creeped out like anyone would.

    There are even Haters out there that finally admitted it to avoid the continued embarrassment Goodell duped them with, yet you still run around spreadibng misinformation like a certain person with orange skin does?

  75. In a situation where you had to pick between the two to win one very important football game, I think most if not all people would pick Belichick, even if only because you knew deep in your heart that when crunch time comes, Reid was going to blow the clock management. Equally, you would sense that if you needed a miraculous finish, pulling a rabbit out of your hat, taking advantage of some obscure rule or strategy, be it a 4th down call, taking a safety with minutes left while behind, only to get the ball back and score, a forgotten formation, a drop kick, a near mathematically impossible come back, what-eva, Belichick is the man.

  76. TB6- I read the report. Maybe you didn’t. It was not “Goodell language” he literally smashed his cell phone by stepping on it. Brady himself testified that’s what he did. Knowing full well the investigation wanted it. Only someone hiding something would do such a thing. And no he wasn’t handing over the phone to anyone so there was zero chance anything personal would be leaked. The investigation just wanted Team Brady to search it themselves for keywords they were looking for. Seems like a reasonable request so why did Tommy say no? Clearly the Second Circuit appeals court had an issue with the smashed phone they even brought it up in their decision. For good reason. Innocent people with nothing to hide don’t do that.

    “Deflator”

    “The only DEFLATING sun… is his passer rating”. I’m sure they weren’t talking about deflating balloons. Do the math.

    Who cares where they were deflating footballs all the evidence we have says it was happening. Too bad Tommy cheated and tried to cover it up I’d appreciate his time here more.

  77. GoodellMustGo says:
    January 20, 2023 at 6:24 pm
    TB6- I read the report. Maybe you didn’t. It was not “Goodell language” he literally smashed his cell phone by stepping on it. Brady himself testified that’s what he did. Knowing full well the investigation wanted it. Only someone hiding something would do such a thing. And no he wasn’t handing over the phone to anyone so there was zero chance anything personal would be leaked. The investigation just wanted Team Brady to search it themselves for keywords they were looking for. Seems like a reasonable request so why did Tommy say no? Clearly the Second Circuit appeals court had an issue with the smashed phone they even brought it up in their decision. For good reason. Innocent people with nothing to hide don’t do that.

    “Deflator”

    “The only DEFLATING sun… is his passer rating”. I’m sure they weren’t talking about deflating balloons. Do the math.

    Who cares where they were deflating footballs all the evidence we have says it was happening. Too bad Tommy cheated and tried to cover it up I’d appreciate his time here more.

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    Do the math? Joking and mocking Brady’s perfectionism means balls were being delated after inspection? I am sorry, there is no way you went to college if you think that is hard evidence. You”d be an awful cop or attorney.

    The equipment manager’s job is to inflate and deflate balls, so all of a sudden this equates to only deflation after inspection? Again, I am sorry, not trying to be rude, but you clearly didn’t go to college and graduate. You have horrible critical thinking skills.

    Even the dates and limited amount of texts show it doesn’t mean anything. And, making jokes about it, certainly isn’t evidence. We all have jokes all over our phones via text and it’s not going to be used to frame us for something when it’s clearly joking and isn’t evidence.

    And, like I said 10.14.14, they were talking about how the balls were over-inflated in warm weather, so how could there be a scheme at home games? Why wouldn’t the texts after that show Jastremski angry with McNally for not doing it? He just forgot to do it on that day? LOL

    Ok, gotcha. MOve the goalposts one more time, Roger Jr.

    You people either have learning disabilities or honestly have genetically low IQs to not decipher the facts and see how Goodell’s classic Goebbels attempt failed miserable in a US court of law. It was obvious to honest people from the beginning when you consider the timing, the team (the Colts), and Brady telling Whinebaugh to shut his big mouth a week before.

    And, yes Brady OFFERED his phone to Wells for full transparency after his 4.5 hour interview. The 4.5 hr interview should raise suspicion in itself when you could have easily gotten security footage from the week before and just looked to see if McNally used the bathroom at a similar time prior to that game. The reason why they didn’t is because it didn’t matter and McNally didn’t use the bathroom in that spot before the game so it would have hurt their framejob if that was used. Not that 1 person can dump 12 balls out, deflate em all and pack all back up in 90 seconds anyway. Preposterous claim.

    They were going throuhg the motions to frame Brady so that’s why they didn’t need his phone, not that the union would allow it, but it’s 100% a fact he offered his phone, as corroborated by numerous people in the room during the interview.

    And, Brady asked Nancy Meyers to destroy his old phone for security reasons. The word “smash” is meant to sound sinister. The word is chosen for a reason just like the statement Gooodell gave to ESPN to intentionally lie about ONLY the Pats footballs beingn under-inflated. Again, another bold face lie. The fact you fall for all of Goodell’s tactics, is embarrassing for you.

    You got duped. I know it’s emabarrassing, but for you to continue to triple down on this makes you look like a complete fool.

    Once NE had that counter-report immediately ready to go to counter all the lies in the Wells Report upon release, that’s even more evidence to show how bad this framejob attempt went by Goodell, Bisciotti, Irsay and Woody Johnson. Kraft and the Pats know who was involved.

    Sal Palantonio said the losing owner to the Pats that week calls in asks Goodell to make something up to frame them. Sal Palantonio said this. Brady’s return of serve to Whinebaugh, provided the ammo for Goodell to feel like he could appease them.

    I can just hear it now…”How dare Brady talk to another coach like that!”

    People were able to count 56 proveable lies in the Wells Report, which meant the report was fraduulent.

    It also somehow took them 4 months to come up with a final draft to frame. If someone is guilty of something, you have actual evidence, you don’t take 4 months to show it. You just show it.

    They got caught, just like Goodell got caught with Ray Rice and lied about that, too, and all the other lies he’s been caught up in for 15 years.

  78. “Counter report” lol. I don’t know what’s more embarrassing that website or the excuse that deflator meant weight loss 😬

    Nobody framed Brady. Alex Jones would be proud at some of your theories lololol. The league has no reason at all to publicly denounce the guy who is arguably the face of the league and its most premier player on its most premium team as a cheater just for the lolz. That’s just not going to happen. What would the league gain from that? Nothing. That’s what solidified my opinion on this thing. The league would not damage themselves like that and nobody is out to “get” the Patriots or Brady.

    So lol no they wouldn’t do that. Unless they had to because he really did cheat. And he did. 100%.

  79. GoodellMustGo says:
    January 20, 2023 at 7:15 pm
    “Counter report” lol. I don’t know what’s more embarrassing that website or the excuse that deflator meant weight loss 😬

    Nobody framed Brady. Alex Jones would be proud at some of your theories lololol. The league has no reason at all to publicly denounce the guy who is arguably the face of the league and its most premier player on its most premium team as a cheater just for the lolz. That’s just not going to happen. What would the league gain from that? Nothing. That’s what solidified my opinion on this thing. The league would not damage themselves like that and nobody is out to “get” the Patriots or Brady.

    So lol no they wouldn’t do that. Unless they had to because he really did cheat. And he did. 100%.

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    The league has no reason to try to bump their ratings as ratings dropped with NE destroying the NFL’s ratings, with their consistent dominance year to year and people becoming disenchanted with it?

    We know about the ratings drops in 2017 after NE won its 2 SB in 3 years. And, we know about certain owners raging jealousy of what Kraft had in BB/Brady, too. We know all about WOody Johnson and how Kraft used a 1st rder to get BB and then BB drafted Brady, forming the 1st dynasty.

    Oh, yes we do. You don’t because you’re not a Pats fan.

    That’s literally why Goodell was hired by WOody Johnson of the Jets and him strongly suggesting to owners Goodell be the guy.

    And, this “deflator” garbage was all about the 2 people joking. It’s clearly obvious those are jokes they’re lobbying back and forth. It’s certainly evidence that supports manipulating balls in some way after inspection. Jokes are not evidence. My goodness.

    As the documentary 4 Games in Fall shows, this is an old tactic used by propagandists and is a very dangerous thing to do as Judge Berman exposed in federal court. The NAZIS made a living off these tactics, and they’ve been used for centuries, like with the witch trials.

    And, Brady did not “smash” his phone either. His own statement after Goodell cheated with his appeal states that. You keep using the GOodell information, which yet again proves your not a Pats fan because all PAts fans know what the real info is, since it’s not coming from GOodell’s 13 billion dollar partner, BSPN.

    Lastly, if this was about deflating balls, a 25K fine would be issued, not 2d draft picks, a suspenion, and a company called Exponent famous for doctoring reports because they’re paid by a billion dollar entity to do just that to get a result that entity wants.

    “If you tell a lie big enough and repeat it over and over, some people will believe it.” – Josef Goebbels.

  80. Meanwhile, this blog entry is about Andy Reid and not some garbage about New England. Andy has convinced me he could coach a Pop Warner team and could be half the league the first time out. The guy can coach and I loathed him when he was at Philty.

  81. Belicheat is nothing but a loser parasite who has been exposed as the cheating joke he is from the second Brady ditched him.

    The patriots will continue to be a disgraced irrelevant joke for the rest of your life.

  82. Tom Brady is nothing but a nice little system quarterback with a little arm who was once suspended for cheating, and now it’s clear as day he doesn’t have the talent to overcome coaching which isn’t elite. Can’t even finish .500 without elite coaching. Proven.

    It’s best for the Bucs to move on. Find a better QB than they had – and that won’t be difficult- and they’ll be back in the playoffs and in much better shape to win.

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