Patriots hire Bill O’Brien as offensive coordinator

Indianapolis, IN � Patriots offensive coordinator Bill O'Brien coaches his last game before heading to Penn State to take the reigns after SuperBowl XLVI at Lucas Oil Stadium on Sunday, February 5, 2012. Staff Photo by Matthew West.
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Bill O’Brien is returning to New England to try to revitalized the Patriots’ offense.

O’Brien will be the Patriots’ new offensive coordinator, according to ESPN.

This will be O’Brien’s second stint as the Patriots’ offensive coordinator, a title he previously had in 2011. He also spent 2007-2010 with the Patriots in various offensive assistant roles.

For the last two seasons, O’Brien has been the offensive coordinator at Alabama. Before that he was head coach of the Texans, and before that head coach at Penn State.

Last year the Patriots didn’t have anyone with the title of offensive coordinator, but the primary offensive coordinator duties were handled by Matt Patricia, and the result was a disaster. This year head coach Bill Belichick will hope that a return of O’Brien can represent a return to the days when the Patriots were the NFL’s premiere franchise.

128 responses to “Patriots hire Bill O’Brien as offensive coordinator

  1. This is a good move for the Patriots. They have 2 TEs that were underutilized that make a lot of money. Obrien was the guy who created the 2 TE monster of Gronk and (the other guy). I’d be curious to see how it works. Also curious will be who is the QB coach, it is BOB or do they bring in someone who would be the QB coach and also be the next in line (since BOB is not going to be around for long, as soon as a HC gig is there for him he will leave, might as well groom the next guy). Also who will be the Oline coach? Does he bring his buddy Doug Marrone with him?

  2. Step one – done

    Now sign Tremaine Edmunds from the Bills to kick them while they are down .

  3. Now this is a serious move for improvement! I said earlier this year that if they’d had a real OC this past season, they would have made the playoffs.

    He may have designs on working back into another HC gig, which he’s probably as qualified for as anyone, and this seems like a reasonable path.

  4. O’Brien’s first order of business will be to try to convince Kraft to trade Bellichik away for a second round draft pick.

  5. If the Patriots offense struggles badly again and end the year with a mediocre or worse record, then it’s going to be Belichick under the microscope. Belichick is praying for 10+ wins in 2023 to keep the pressure off.

  6. Next: offensive line coach please! Going from Scarnnechia to Patricia splitting time as OC was a dropoff the size of Mount Kilimanjaro.

  7. >> I said earlier this year that if they’d had a real OC this past season, they would have made the playoffs.

    Probably true, but at the top of my list is to fix special teams (replace our special teams coordinator?). Better performance for that unit, even by itself, would have landed us in the playoffs. At least with the offense, it was getting better late season. Special teams did not and let us down in quite a few key moments.

  8. The silver lining to missing the playoffs is to get this done quickly, in time for the draft and to start working on whatever the new offense will look like. Now give Jerod Mayo the DC job. It’s a good sign that he was part of the OC interviews, but he’ll (rightly) be gone if he doesn’t get the title.

  9. Well, O’Brien has been through the Saban redemption process. It worked for Lane and Sark, maybe it will here. Maybe Nick taught O’Brien not trade away his best players along with his high draft picks.

  10. I heard after the Patricia experiment, O’Brien’s interview consisted of one question:

    True or False: A screen pass to the RB in the flat is a good idea on 3rd and 18?

  11. Macs got a minimum of 2 years to show what he’s got, last year was just flat out wasted…. We got a taste of his potential his rookie year, now with a real OC it will be interesting to see how those around him perform as well… there’s STILL plenty of work to do, o- line coach, QB coach, WR coach & Special Teams coach…. But it’s a good start!!!

  12. Step 1: Check
    Step 2: Trade for DeAndre Hopkins
    Step 3: Use #14 in April to draft a LT

  13. O’Brian should be banned from the NFL after he admitted tanking games to try to get fired in Houston. That totally goes against the integrity of the game.

  14. Everyone knew this was likely since the Patriots coaching staff has turned into a retirement home for failed coaches from the Belichek tree.

    I’m guessing Patricia, the rocket scientist defensive coach, will retain his offensive line coach responsibilities and get paid like a coordinator? Same with Joe Judge and his QB coach duties?

  15. His nick name was “Teapot” because he was easy to blow his top! You could see him and Brady going at each other on the sidelines. This will be fun to watch.

  16. Great hire. Mac Jones’ final year to show what he’s got.

    Mac’s got two more years, then a potential option 5th year.

  17. As a Texans fan, I am glad O’Brien will be the OC in NE. O’Brien winning two AFC South Division titles with Hoyer and Osweiler at QB, was a miracle! Winning those two division titles made me a believer due to Hoyer and Osweiler at QB. Yes, O’Brien made some mistakes as GM, but he will not be the GM in NE and they should do well with O’Brien as OC! Now get Mac Jones some WR’s and a better OL.

  18. The only good thing I can say about this is it’s an improvement over what they had. But, almost anything would have been.

  19. Patricia is like your wife’s brother you have to hang out with and you count the minutes until he is gone.

  20. Literally everything Matt Patricia touches is a disaster. His defenses were atrocious when he was the coordinator. The Lions were terrible when he was the HC. He tried his hand at de facto OC with disastrous results. He’s not a leader of men. Someone please tell me why this guy is a professional football coach?

  21. Last year the offensive line was terrible. Penalties galore, missed blocks etc.

    Patricia was offensive line coach as well as coordinator.

    They better draft a couple of OFL or get a few free agents and hire the right OFL coach.

    O’Brien will help if they fix the OFL, otherwise they are not going anywhere.

  22. That should help a lot but still need to improve coaching on Offensive Line and Special Teams. Yes they have some personnel deficiencies but not as many as the many Pats enviers and fake Pats fans love to claim on every Pats related thread; and will claim again in response to this post.

  23. Absolutely absurd that BB was arrogant enough to try to run a team without an OC. Wasted year for Mac Jones, we have no idea what he is yet.

  24. After one of the greatest rookie years in NFL history, it should be interesting to see if O’Brien can pick up where McDaniels left off.

    How many games did NE server up on a platter this year? 4? 5?

    With the #2 ranked D, they should benefit from this as well. Now just fire that STs coordinator and move on already.

  25. Pats delusional faithful…good luck trying yo recreate the good times. BB is alot like TB in one way…they both don’t know when to retire. The pride takes the man before the fall.

  26. Now THIS already makes next season a lot more interesting. Mac lit it up with the deep ball in ‘Bama, it’ll be nice to see some of that make it back into the Pats offense.

  27. Grumpy Santa says:
    January 24, 2023 at 9:40 am
    Now THIS already makes next season a lot more interesting. Mac lit it up with the deep ball in ‘Bama, it’ll be nice to see some of that make it back into the Pats offense.
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    He did all right with that last season but too many picks. Hopefully this season is better with a real NFL OC calling plays.

  28. statechamp77 says:
    January 24, 2023 at 8:43 am
    As a Texans fan, I am glad O’Brien will be the OC in NE. O’Brien winning two AFC South Division titles with Hoyer and Osweiler at QB, was a miracle! Winning those two division titles made me a believer due to Hoyer and Osweiler at QB. Yes, O’Brien made some mistakes as GM, but he will not be the GM in NE and they should do well with O’Brien as OC! Now get Mac Jones some WR’s and a better OL.

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    Exactly. And O’Brien is not the head coach (yet). That’s still Belichick.

  29. 1dayatatime says:
    January 24, 2023 at 8:21 am
    That should put an end to all the gossip about DeAndre Hopkins going to New England.

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    Thank god. 22 mil per and an easily removeable weapon from a game as he surges past 30. No thanks.

    I’d rather he get cut and they give him a workout.

  30. lucheyschoe says:
    January 24, 2023 at 8:55 am
    Literally everything Matt Patricia touches is a disaster. His defenses were atrocious when he was the coordinator. The Lions were terrible when he was the HC. He tried his hand at de facto OC with disastrous results. He’s not a leader of men. Someone please tell me why this guy is a professional football coach?
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    “Leader of men” is such a trite thought. Real men don’t have to be led, they know what to do.

  31. After one of the greatest rookie years in NFL history
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    Remember when Stidham had the greatest preseason in Pats history…. He was the future of the Pats.

  32. Step 2: Trade for DeAndre Hopkins
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    Well… this move makes me think that might not happen but never say never I guess.

  33. Move Marcus Jones to the slot and draft a corner or tackle in the first round. Jones could be Edelman, Welker, and Troy Brown rolled into one.

  34. Belichick is at his best when he’s being carried by other people, so this is a great move. Now they need a GM and a QB. Bill’s a pretty good DC as long as you keep him away from the offense and personnel decisions.

  35. kemp13 says:
    January 24, 2023 at 9:43 am
    Now the NFL world will see how great O’Brien is without #12 behind center.

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    Actually, it was Brady who scapegoated O’Brien after his 2nd chokejob vs the Giants. It’s why McDaniels came back. But, BB drafted Garoppolo as a reminder it wasn’t Bill O’Brien, it was Brady’s uncoachability and ego. See the sideline blow up in Washington December of 2011 when Brady yet again threw a mindnumbingly awful INT at the goal line and refused accountability.

  36. chuckshontaspads says:
    January 24, 2023 at 9:54 am
    Move Marcus Jones to the slot and draft a corner or tackle in the first round. Jones could be Edelman, Welker, and Troy Brown rolled into one.

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    I’d rather resign the great Jon Jones as the league’s best nickel. Jack Jones has issues which is why he went in the 4th rd.

    Still draft a CB, but you want two nice nickels in this league. I’d rather they use Jones more as a scatback and use him as a dime player when neeeded.

    Kid is outnstanding, leading up the really nice players in some recent drafts here.

  37. swipe says:
    January 24, 2023 at 8:01 am
    O’Brien’s first order of business will be to try to convince Kraft to trade Bellichik away for a second round draft pick.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Not likely, but you made me laugh, so you get a thumbs up.

  38. Tom Brady says:
    January 24, 2023 at 9:56 am
    Belichick is at his best when he’s being carried by other people, so this is a great move. Now they need a GM and a QB. Bill’s a pretty good DC as long as you keep him away from the offense and personnel decisions.

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    Yeah, great, except they have young talent all over the roster.

    The D was 1st the NFL in INT for TDs, a franchise record for them, and led the league in 4th down stands. It wasn’t even close in that category. They were 2nd in INTs. They were 3rd in TDs allowed.

    Of the games they won, NE’s D had to score a TD to make it happen. Incredible in an offensive league.

    It’s pretty clear what the problem was last year.

  39. BillyO and the offense will: put up lots of points (and scream a lot). If he can get Mac to be consistent- they will contend

  40. Ok now deactivate Patricia’s keycard and have his car towed. Move Judge to ST where he belongs. Find a functional OL coach. Give Mayo the defense. And hopefully they’re at least watchable this season.

  41. touchback6 says:
    January 24, 2023 at 9:37 am
    After one of the greatest rookie years in NFL history
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    Uhm, Brock Purdy says hi.

  42. Ha, Ha, Ha,How the mighty have fallen…let Mr.O’Brien handle the draft, make some trades, pickup where he left off at Houston…What could go wrong??

  43. nytro says:
    January 24, 2023 at 10:41 am
    touchback6 says:
    January 24, 2023 at 9:37 am
    After one of the greatest rookie years in NFL history
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    Uhm, Brock Purdy says hi.

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    And? It’s not Zach Wilson. bawahah

    Enjoy!

  44. Some how i feel like theres still a guy out there that was a huge key to their previous success who is on another team currently…hmmmm…i cant remember his name…

  45. Didn’t Alabama’s offense fall off a cliff the last two years? Remind me, who was the OC during that time? “He was great in 2011”. That is like saying “We are huge in Grenada”. Also, as stated above, he is looking to be HC. So they are looking at a one year rental? The potential of four OC’s in four seasons is just great for the development of a young QB…NOT.

  46. mickeyspillane says:
    January 24, 2023 at 10:51 am
    Some how i feel like theres still a guy out there that was a huge key to their previous success who is on another team currently…hmmmm…i cant remember his name…

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    That’s funny, because after 2 Brady chokejobs to the Giants, Brady scapegoated O’Brien for the 2nd one, asking for his buddy Josh to come back so Brady could feel in control again. Brady never did anything wrong. Dontcha know? Giselle did. Brady’s family did. The anti-BB brainwashing Boston media did. They all glossed over it.

    But, BB drafted Garoppolo shortly thereafter to scare Brady into actually keeping his job and being held accountable for his god awful postseasons from 2007-2012.

    So, what you’re saying isn’t true just like how Brady went 8-9 this year, sub .500 as GM and Coach of his team, where he failed miserably.

    So, if it was “All Brady”, where was it in these periods of time? Why did Tampa go 8-9? Hmm?

    BB worked with Garoppolo EVERY DAY. EVERY DAY. No one else got that treament except for Cassel in 2008 and Brady himself. BB doesn’t use up his team on a back up QB unless he’s grooming that QB to take over.

    BB was preparing to rid the team of Brady’s ego well before 2019. So, no, it wasn’t all Brady. BB pushed all the right buttons to form a 2nd dynasty that Brady happened to be a part of, and was lucky to still be around for. And, numerous HOF players played on these teams beyond Brady.

    Glossing over 2 SB losses to the Giants with putrid play off of putrid conf title games, won’t work. His postseason play and his own chosen style of play (shotgun/spread base with no FB or blocking TE) throwing from 1 and 2 yard line as if it made sense, won’t work. No point in trying to revise history.

  47. GoodellMustGo says:
    January 24, 2023 at 7:57 am
    No way! Shocker. Never saw this coming! 🙂

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    I believe the commentary last week was that this would not happen because OBrien wasn’t interested.

  48. murraysons says:
    January 24, 2023 at 10:37 am
    Ok now deactivate Patricia’s keycard and have his car towed. Move Judge to ST where he belongs. Find a functional OL coach. Give Mayo the defense. And hopefully they’re at least watchable this season.

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    He will be gone faster if he still has his car there.

  49. While anyone would be better than the mighty n otherwise certainly un-employed mr. P I am not that keen on the move and should have found someone younger and more relevant in the modern NFL game .. and for all this TE glorification well a rather slight diff between who was here before in the position than the folks there now !! thus the drastic needs are OL, WR, n a few more not to mention the coaching needs in other parts of the organization, therefore they sure better hit it good in the draft as any free agent who is not crap or just looking for a payday will certainly have no interest in coming here due to much uncertainty going forward .. but certainly would love to be surprised with normal picks n not guys from tractor pull U in the first three rounds though they must stock up on the OL n sure hope Mac had some say in vouching for this olde n new guy.

  50. mickeyspillane says:
    January 24, 2023 at 10:51 am
    Some how i feel like theres still a guy out there that was a huge key to their previous success who is on another team currently…hmmmm…i cant remember his name…

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    And hopefully the team doesn’t remember his name either.

    Cause if they bring him back I’m out. I will be rooting against my favorite team and I’d really hate to do that.

  51. touchback6 says:
    January 24, 2023 at 9:59 am
    kemp13 says:
    January 24, 2023 at 9:43 am
    Now the NFL world will see how great O’Brien is without #12 behind center.

    12Rate This

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    Actually, it was Brady who scapegoated O’Brien after his 2nd chokejob vs the Giants

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    You mean the game Brady left with under 2:00 with the Pats up by 4 only to watch BB’s defense choke once again?

  52. LOL!!!

    Beautiful!! I’m laughing my head off! Guaranteed losing record for New England on the way!!

  53. nytro says:
    January 24, 2023 at 10:41 am
    touchback6 says:
    January 24, 2023 at 9:37 am
    After one of the greatest rookie years in NFL history
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    Uhm, Brock Purdy says hi.


    I’m not sold on Purdy. We’ll find out how good he really is on Sunday.

  54. touchback6 says:
    January 24, 2023 at 11:12 am

    Glossing over 2 SB losses to the Giants with putrid play off of putrid conf title games, won’t work. His postseason play and his own chosen style of play (shotgun/spread base with no FB or blocking TE) throwing from 1 and 2 yard line as if it made sense, won’t work. No point in trying to revise history.

    No point in trying to revise history.

    You’re right. 7 Superbowls speaks for itself. What is Bill’s record without Brady again?

  55. How did Brady scapegoat O’Brien? Billy left for the head coaching position at Penn State then parlayed that into a head coaching job in Houston. Happens all the time. Never seen someone scapegoated into a promotion.

    Let’s pump the brakes on the Brady failed miserably. In 3 years, the Bucs made the playoffs 3 times including a SB win. At 44, he had an mvp-caliber season. By any measure Brady’s time in Tampa was a massive success. The same can’t be said for Belichick. The Patriots have regressed since TB left. Those are indisputable facts.

  56. Bottom line is the Patriots need better players on both sides of the ball to hang with the big dogs of the league.

    A coaching change on offense is a welcome start but it’s not THE answer. Getting better players is. Lets see what they do at the draft and in free agency.

  57. nhpats2011 says:
    January 24, 2023 at 11:34 am
    touchback6 says:
    January 24, 2023 at 9:59 am
    kemp13 says:
    January 24, 2023 at 9:43 am
    Now the NFL world will see how great O’Brien is without #12 behind center.

    12Rate This

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    Actually, it was Brady who scapegoated O’Brien after his 2nd chokejob vs the Giants

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    You mean the game Brady left with under 2:00 with the Pats up by 4 only to watch BB’s defense choke once again?

    Sorry but when Tommy has the greatest offense of all time and manages just 14 points against a middling Giants defense and then in the rematch 17 points against the 29th ranked pass defense in the league the “it’s the defense’s fault” card won’t play.

  58. touchback6 says:
    January 24, 2023 at 11:12 am

    Glossing over 2 SB losses to the Giants with putrid play off of putrid conf title games, won’t work. His postseason play and his own chosen style of play (shotgun/spread base with no FB or blocking TE) throwing from 1 and 2 yard line as if it made sense, won’t work. No point in trying to revise history.

    “His own chosen style of play” .. So the HEAD Coach had no say in that ? It was all Brady’s idea.. or was it just the way the league was going.
    And didn’t Bill get rid of the FB this season?

  59. touchback6 says:
    January 24, 2023 at 11:12 am

    Glossing over 2 SB losses to the Giants with putrid play off of putrid conf title games, won’t work. His postseason play and his own chosen style of play (shotgun/spread base with no FB or blocking TE) throwing from 1 and 2 yard line as if it made sense, won’t work. No point in trying to revise history.


    Yeah and I’m sure as a Patriots fan when they were going undefeated in the season setting all kinds of records on offense you were saying to yourself “this sucks we need a FB” and some more “blocking TEs”

    People are such frauds..

    And didn’t Bill get rid of the FB this season?

  60. Just in time to get his butt out to Las Vegas to coach the West team’s offense in the East-West Shrine Game and pick up some draft intel.

  61. patsfan1983 says:
    January 24, 2023 at 11:54 am
    How did Brady scapegoat O’Brien? Billy left for the head coaching position at Penn State then parlayed that into a head coaching job in Houston. Happens all the time. Never seen someone scapegoated into a promotion.

    Let’s pump the brakes on the Brady failed miserably. In 3 years, the Bucs made the playoffs 3 times including a SB win. At 44, he had an mvp-caliber season. By any measure Brady’s time in Tampa was a massive success. The same can’t be said for Belichick. The Patriots have regressed since TB left. Those are indisputable facts.

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    Yup.

    Brady w/ Bucs:

    3 seasons and 3 playoff appearances
    1 SB

    Bradyless Pats:

    3 seasons and 1 postseason appearance that was a complete embarrassment
    0 SB

    Kind of sums it up

  62. Didn’t Alabama’s offense fall off a cliff the last two years? Remind me, who was the OC during that time?

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    They were 4th and 6th in scoring in the country, 130 teams…..averaged 41 points a game last year.

    It was a very short cliff

  63. Brady w/ Bucs:

    3 seasons and 3 playoff appearances
    1 SB

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    Yeah that 8-10 record last year with a 30 point loss in the wild card was awesome

  64. I can’t get over how Brady was clearly a MAJOR factor in delivering 6 superbowls and 9 AFC championships and New England fans have the audacity to trash talk him. They act as if they would have 9 if it wasn’t for Brady.
    I can see now why Brady wanted out.

  65. NFL coaches’ and their ego. If I were the Browns head coach I would have hired Bill O’Brien and would have been like”you have total autonomy of the offense, and then focus on game management, leadership, and administrative duties. The less a coach has on his plate, the more he can focus on the big picture. Coaches just have to call plays and run the offense. I mean just be a coordinator.

  66. 3 seasons and 3 playoff appearances
    1 SB


    No, 2 playoff appearances. I don’t acknowledge the last one. He had a losing record. His team didn’t belong in the playoffs and it showed. So as far as I’m concerned it didn’t happen.

    Would have been in or near last place in almost any other division including the AFC East.

  67. chuckshontaspads says:
    January 24, 2023 at 9:54 am
    Move Marcus Jones to the slot and draft a corner or tackle in the first round. Jones could be Edelman, Welker, and Troy Brown rolled into one.
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    I like this idea. Marcus Jones has all of the tools to do it.

  68. Trash O’Brien all you want. The job he did at Penn State was some of the best coaching I’ve ever seen. Then his QB at Bama wins a Heisman. Then there is his work with Brady. Yes, Brady is great but we’ve seen many many lesser coaches mess up their QBs.

  69. jokersc says:
    January 24, 2023 at 1:13 pm
    Brady w/ Bucs:

    3 seasons and 3 playoff appearances
    1 SB

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    Yeah that 8-10 record last year with a 30 point loss in the wild card was awesome


    Yeah he said “his time in Tampa” not just this season.

    3 division titles
    5-2 in the playoffs and a SB win.

    32-17 regular season
    Brady in those 3 seasons 14643 yards 108 tds and 33 ints

    So like he said “pump the brakes on Brady failed miserably “

  70. Coach Belichick without Brady: .475
    Brady without elite coaching (Belichick HOF lock, Arians HOF maybe, 2x NFL COTY)…. .471

    🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

  71. GoodellMustGo says:
    January 24, 2023 at 2:22 pm
    Coach Belichick without Brady: .475
    Brady without elite coaching (Belichick HOF lock, Arians HOF maybe, 2x NFL COTY)…. .

    And the problem with this lame argument is the sample size for the player. 1 season compared to 9 for Bill

  72. This doesn’t move the needle that much. He’s still stuck with Mac Jones running the offense. That would make it tough on any coach.

  73. Brady has a losing record in Tampa without Gronk. Let that sink in. It was Gronk all along.

  74. joyriderideem says:
    January 24, 2023 at 1:24 pm
    I can’t get over how Brady was clearly a MAJOR factor in delivering 6 superbowls and 9 AFC championships and New England fans have the audacity to trash talk him. They act as if they would have 9 if it wasn’t for Brady.
    I can see now why Brady wanted out.

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    Yup. And we have seen just how mediocre BB is without Brady. Bob Kraft sees it too

  75. flash1224 says:
    January 24, 2023 at 2:31 pm
    GoodellMustGo says:
    January 24, 2023 at 2:22 pm
    Coach Belichick without Brady: .475
    Brady without elite coaching (Belichick HOF lock, Arians HOF maybe, 2x NFL COTY)…. .

    And the problem with this lame argument is the sample size for the player. 1 season compared to 9 for Bill
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    This was Brady’s first season without elite coaching and it didn’t go well….

  76. I think this was the best hire of the candidates mentioned becasue I think he helps the QB the most. All are obviously qualified as OCs but I think O’Brien helps in the development of a QB the most.
    Jones needs a real QB coach not a coach that’s coaching the QBs. Belichick knows that Patricia and Judge are good football coaches but there is also a learning curve for coaches. Judge is learning to be a QB coach and Jones is still learning the QB position. Patricia was in over his head as Senior Football Advisor, Offensive Line Coach and Offensive Coordinator. Again a coach learning his job while also teaching…

  77. patsrule says:
    January 24, 2023 at 1:16 pm
    Just keep Belichick away from the offense.

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    Umm, he’s been leading the qb room since 2000 when he got here and then he built 2 dynasties.

    You people are certifiable.

  78. patsfan1983 says:
    January 24, 2023 at 11:54 am
    How did Brady scapegoat O’Brien? Billy left for the head coaching position at Penn State then parlayed that into a head coaching job in Houston. Happens all the time. Never seen someone scapegoated into a promotion.

    Let’s pump the brakes on the Brady failed miserably. In 3 years, the Bucs made the playoffs 3 times including a SB win. At 44, he had an mvp-caliber season. By any measure Brady’s time in Tampa was a massive success. The same can’t be said for Belichick. The Patriots have regressed since TB left. Those are indisputable facts.

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    He didn’t like O’Brien, told BB so BB brought McDaniels back. Duh.

  79. They offered Brady a contract. He wanted out. He wasn’t the HC or GM, he was the QB. He’s done what no other football has done. There is NO HISTORY saying a QB can play effectively beyond age 40. Tampa gambled and gave him a 2 year deal and it worked out. There was no real downside for Tampa to take a chance on Brady after Winston’s 30 INT season.
    Phil Simms once said he got smarter ever year as a QB but the last few years his body just couldn’t do what his mind wanted him to do… or something to that effect. The fact that Brady can still play at a high level is amazing.

  80. charliecharger says:
    January 24, 2023 at 3:38 pm
    I think Bill O’Brien eventually takes over for Belichick.
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    Mayo or O’Brien IMO.

  81. lowlyfinfan88 says:
    January 24, 2023 at 2:42 pm
    This doesn’t move the needle that much. He’s still stuck with Mac Jones running the offense. That would make it tough on any coach.
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    We’ll learn a lot about Jones this year. I’m not sold he’s the guy for the Patriots but I’m in favor of seeing him put in a good situation so we can get a real look at him. That wasn’t the case going into the 2022 season.

  82. nhpats2011 says:
    January 24, 2023 at 12:35 pm

    patsfan1983 says:
    January 24, 2023 at 11:54 am
    How did Brady scapegoat O’Brien? Billy left for the head coaching position at Penn State then parlayed that into a head coaching job in Houston. Happens all the time. Never seen someone scapegoated into a promotion.

    Let’s pump the brakes on the Brady failed miserably. In 3 years, the Bucs made the playoffs 3 times including a SB win. At 44, he had an mvp-caliber season. By any measure Brady’s time in Tampa was a massive success. The same can’t be said for Belichick. The Patriots have regressed since TB left. Those are indisputable facts.

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    Yup.

    Brady w/ Bucs:

    3 seasons and 3 playoff appearances
    1 SB

    Bradyless Pats:

    3 seasons and 1 postseason appearance that was a complete embarrassment
    0 SB

    Kind of sums it up_
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    Ah, not really. That season long embarrassment in Tampa and getting ejected by Prescott kinda made the SB win a push. LOL

  83. Chill_Mickelson says:
    January 24, 2023 at 4:41 pm
    Why not hire a head coach who doesn’t have a losing record sans Brady
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    You mean Brady as in the QB who has ZERO winning seasons without elite coaching? That guy?

  84. Brady has a losing record in Tampa without Gronk. Let that sink in. It was Gronk all along.
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    Gronk missed 4 games between 10.03-24.21. The Bucs won all 4. Wouldn’t that make Brady 12-10 without Gronk?

  85. Ah, not really. That season long embarrassment in Tampa and getting ejected by Prescott kinda made the SB win a push. LOL
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    Brady has ZERO Super Bowl rings that he won for his team. His team won them all for him including his last one. There’s a huge difference.

    Tommy will NEVER play another playoff game again. That’s a shame to have a legacy where you don’t even win a ring for your team even once you leeched off of them and took all the credit…

  86. Tommy will NEVER play another playoff game again. That’s a shame to have a legacy where you don’t even win a ring for your team even once you leeched off of them and took all the credit…
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    Ladies and gentlemen – the Benny Hill Show!

  87. This guys offenses couldn’t win a sb with Brady now he’s gonna make magic with Jones? Lol

  88. dwqb11 says:
    January 24, 2023 at 5:47 pm
    Tommy will NEVER play another playoff game again. That’s a shame to have a legacy where you don’t even win a ring for your team even once you leeched off of them and took all the credit…
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    Ladies and gentlemen – the Benny Hill Show!
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    Thanks for reading!

  89. This is a disaster in the making for the Pats. I started to question his leadership and abilities when he started trying to tear Brady down on the sidelines. Then, when he went to the Texans, every major decision he made seemed to be fueled by his own ego, and not by what was good for the team.

    Good luck, Pats. With O’Brien, you’re going to need all you can get.

  90. dwqb11 says:
    January 24, 2023 at 6:44 pm
    Thanks for reading!
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    I am a sucker for fiction.
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    That made me lol so I gave you an upvote. 🙂

  91. Phil Simms once said he got smarter ever year as a QB …
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    And he’s still as dumb as a friggin rock

  92. jokersc says:
    January 24, 2023 at 1:12 pm
    Didn’t Alabama’s offense fall off a cliff the last two years? Remind me, who was the OC during that time?

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    They were 4th and 6th in scoring in the country, 130 teams…..averaged 41 points a game last year.

    It was a very short cliff

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    Misinformation is constantly spread about anything surrounding the Pats.

  93. gridironczar says:
    January 24, 2023 at 4:19 pm
    They offered Brady a contract. He wanted out. He wasn’t the HC or GM, he was the QB. He’s done what no other football has done. There is NO HISTORY saying a QB can play effectively beyond age 40. Tampa gambled and gave him a 2 year deal and it worked out. There was no real downside for Tampa to take a chance on Brady after Winston’s 30 INT season.
    Phil Simms once said he got smarter ever year as a QB but the last few years his body just couldn’t do what his mind wanted him to do… or something to that effect. The fact that Brady can still play at a high level is amazing.

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    No, BB wanted him out. The 2nd year of the contract all incentives. Brady wanted 50 mil guaranteed and tbey didn’t grant it.

    Fact.

    Kraft/BB walked.

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