Brandon Beane: Bengals have advantage of Joe Burrow and Ja’Marr Chase on rookie contracts

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Bills General Manager Brandon Beane says one of the reasons it’s tough to keep pace with the Bengals is that Cincinnati has its best players on inexpensive rookie contracts, while Buffalo does not.

“They right now are on the advantage of a rookie quarterback contract,” Beane said of Joe Burrow. “They had some lean years, and without getting too much into their build, I don’t want to suck bad enough to have to get Ja’Marr Chase. He’s a heck of a talent, I’d love to have him, but you got to go through some lean years to do that. They were able to get Burrow No. 1 and Chase [No. 5] and those guys are on their rookie deals. We’re paying Stefon Diggs a pretty hefty number. We’re paying Josh Allen a pretty hefty number. So there is the constraints of the cap. They have a really good team and they’ve got some good young players. We’re gonna try to get as many players as we can through the draft and through free agency, but again, our cap situation is a little different.”

Beane said the NFL has not told teams what the 2023 salary cap will be, but Beane expects the Bills to be over it heading into the offseason. That means the Bills’ first priority will be making moves to get under the cap, rather than signing expensive free agents.

“We’re going to have to get under the cap by moves, roster cuts. . . . There’s not gonna be a Von Miller signing or something like that. We’re going to have to work to get under the cap so we can operate this year,” Beane said.

Beane said there are moves that the Bills can make to reduce salary cap hits this year, but those moves end up pushing salary cap hits into future seasons, so Beane doesn’t want to make too many such moves.

“I don’t want to in two years be $100 million over the cap, like we’ve seen teams have to do. I’m not looking to do that,” Beane said.

Burrow will likely sign a lucrative contract extension this year, and Chase likely next year, so the Bengals won’t have that advantage for long. But for now, it’s an advantage that makes Beane jealous of the Bengals’ situation.

152 responses to “Brandon Beane: Bengals have advantage of Joe Burrow and Ja’Marr Chase on rookie contracts

  1. Sad fact for Bengals = your current roster is the best group you will assemble in the future few years…

  2. Seems to me this is great drafting. They were able to get two immediate contributors straight out of college.

  3. They COULD have Justin Jefferson on a rookie contract.

    But they don’t.

    Instead they have Diggs who evidently is having a meltdown.

  4. Unfortunately the Bills were a meddling franchise with numerous 7-9, 6-10 seasons until they moved up to get #17. It is what it is. The Patriots were able to do it for decades cutting, trading and restructuring deals. Sometimes making moves everyone questioned but somehow they worked out. I’m sure he’ll figure it out. Listening to the press conference though, I wish he didnt compare the Bills to Cincinnati. I think he was trying to console with Bills mafia acknowledging the Bills need to do a better job. We all know it starts top down, NFL is no different than other jobs. I think the “13 seconds” and the humbling experience from Sunday the Bills brass is finally drinking the OJ! Ownership Juice

  5. Yes the Bengals have the luxury of cap space but Beane was the one who paid a 33 year old Von Miller a 6 year deal worth 120 million. A Moneyball approach of sorts would have worked better for the Bills say paying 2 pass rushers 10 million versus one player a hefty 20 million. Teams can overcome the cap constraints they just need to be smart about handing out large contracts to non QB’s/non WR’s.

  6. Why didn`t he win when Allen was the 7th pick on a rookie contract? Tua & Waddle were top 6 picks the same seasons and the Bills can beat them. When your seat starts getting hot….Make excuses.

  7. Makes the Patriots achievements over the past 20 years even more impressive.

    People forget how virtually impossible it is to build a dominant dynasty in the salary cap era.

  8. The owners better loosen up that cap. I have never in 45 years of being a fan bought a jersey or a ticket to a game or watched a game on tv because of the owner! I waited 20 years to get this team built and now I have to watch it get dismantled because of money? And you think I’ll watch again? lol!

  9. I know people will mention that Brady took less money and the team used that to build great teams and if Burrows wants to win he should do the same. Well that statement is false. They won because Brady and the coaching were really good. The Patriots were wise with their signings at all positions, drafted well, didn’t overpay for players, signed decent players and coaching them up. Did Brady take slightly less money, yes.
    The whole story about Brady didn’t have to be the highest paid QB because his wife was rich was something he said on a late night talk show as a joke and people ran with it. They always had a strong offensive and defensive line and built out from there.

  10. Beane hasn’t drafted a WR in the first two rounds since he got here in 2018 despite a gluttony of young talent at the position. Instead he’s drafted four defensive lineman (two of them busts), an OG (a bust), and a CB (Elam) followed by a RB (Cook) in last years draft who’s impact was minimal their rookie season. Too many excuses to why you don’t have a decent #2 WR opposite Diggs on a rookie deal.

    He’s made this franchise relevant again (51 wins in the last 4 seasons) but don’t give me the Jamaar Chase (or Tee Higgins for that matter) is on his rookie deal excuse.

  11. How many SB appearances did Buffalo make when Josh Allen was on his rookie contract?

  12. Wow, blatant excuse making and very unprofessional to slight another franchise. The Bengals have built their team the way the NFL has designed teams to improve. If you draft well, coach well and manage your salary cap responsibly. That is what make the Patriots 20 year run so impressive.

  13. Personally, not a fan of him saying the Bengals sucked. Makes him seem bitter. There were much better ways to phrase that and as someone who speaks to the media he should know that.

    As for the cap, he is the one in charge of managing it for Buffalo. So if you are over the cap, that’s on him.

  14. Burrow is going to demand to be the highest paid QB this off-season and Higgins will demand to be the highest paid receiver. Next year Chase will demand to get more than Higgins. And that will be the end of the Bengals. Better win now.

  15. So the dude had Allen on a rookie contract and could`ve had Justin Jefferson but traded the pick for a known diva like Diggs instead and now wants to make excuses? Tee Higgins is better than G.Davis, Tyler Boyd is better than C.Beasley, Mixon is better than Singletary.It wasn`t just the 1st round were they out drafted him!

  16. The best way to build a team ,draft lineman every year, it all starts up front, on both sides. Lions had Stafford,and Johnson, and didn’t come close to winning, until they drafted Suh, look what LA did this year without Donald, and a poor offensive line got Stafford beat up.

  17. I think that’s the first time I’ve heard that excuse for getting whipped. They drafted well and have players better than us on rookie contracts. Or maybe I’m wrong and he’s lobbying the league to change another rule. Each team must have the same number of stars on rookie contracts to be fair. In all my years I’ve never seen a softer team in any sport. Get OT rules changed for them, get an extra bye week than the rest of the league then say you were too tired, and complain the other team had the advantage because they drafted better. How many more excuses will they come up with?

  18. @logicalone- your logic was flawed. The best QB in league history was never the highest paid. That leaves money to sign other players. That is a fact, and being able to spend more on other positions helps the team. This is not rocket surgery.

  19. johnc44 says:
    January 25, 2023 at 5:36 am
    Why didn`t he win when Allen was the 7th pick on a rookie contract? Tua & Waddle were top 6 picks the same seasons and the Bills can beat them.

    Barely

  20. Sour grapes buffalo got beat money had 0 to do with it, they have sucked and had plenty of those lean years to help build their team as he called it .

  21. madmax21613 says:
    January 25, 2023 at 5:08 am
    Seems to me this is great drafting. They were able to get two immediate contributors straight out of college.
    ———————–

    Ah yes…the sheer brilliance of drafting the best QB available with the #1 pick when your team needed a franchise QB, and drafting the arguably best WR prospect (who played with said QB no less). Astounding level of skill indeed.

  22. What he said is true but reveals they will never be the Patriots. Buffalo fans hate the comparisons but those fans, and now their GM, love to point fingers and make excuses.

    The Patriots had two decades of success picking at the bottom of rounds, if Goodell didn’t take the picks away. They played UDFA and guys on the backend of their careers because Belichick always considered contract value in relationship to value added on the field. It helped that Brady was a team oriented guy.

    It’s hard to win it all in any year never-mind maintain excellence over extended periods.

    Look at all the promised dynasties (The Greatest Show On Turf, Peyton Manning’s Colts, the 12th Man Seahawks, Sean Payton’s Saints, the McVay Rams, the Mahomes Chiefs) that were one and done with KC possibly breaking that trend. Heck, I remember how the Falcons were anointed as unstoppable until they blew a gasket against the Pats in the super bowl. This year it was Buffalo and instead the Eagles are looking great and poised to add value in the draft.

    This year has been a reality check on fan delusion because, as Parcells said, you are what your record says you are. And, as Adam Vinatieri said, it took both Belichick and Brady to sustain winning and trying to pick one over the other is nonsensical.

  23. Tee Higgins and Tyler Boyd were second round picks. Logan Wilson and Germaine Pratt were third rounders. Even with the Bengals O line rebuild, they didn’t hand out absurd contracts. The advantage is real, but the Bengals have spent moderately on free agents that in many cases outplayed the contract.

    Beane’s excuse falls flat.

  24. There’s no salary cap for the scouting department. There are great players drafted every year in the middle rounds that scouts missed on. Upgrade the scouting department.

  25. He’s not wrong. All these players want to GET PAID(!!). Then they cry (looking at you Diggs) when the team falls short.

    Don’t you think KC would’ve loved to have kept Hill? Too bad he and Mahomes insisted on breaking the bank.

    Math is funny like that.

  26. The Bills and Bengals were mediocre to lousy for years, they finally hit on some high draft picks in recent years, obviously especially at QB, and now they are playoff and, in the case of the Bengals, Super Bowl competitive. Being able to sustain that will be the mark of good to great GM work and Coaching; if they can maintain it. I do not know why Beane is making excuses already for the Bills disappointing end to another season, it is not a good look for him. he seems to be saying “I got lucky in some recent drafts and I do not think I can maintain it.”

    It will be interesting to see how the Bills and Bengals maintain their recent competitiveness, or not, over the next few seasons

  27. But, teams do it successfully. For the past 3 years we have heard the same about the chiefs – they won’t be good now that players are getting paid. Well they have done it. No huge free agent signings, just good drafting and signing good free agents that fit the scheme and can contribute. People thought trading hill was the death of them, well we made it to the 5 conf champ game in a row. Sucks Mahomes is hurt and could lose it, but still a good job balancing the cap I believe. No excuses, just do the business bills

  28. logicalone says:
    January 25, 2023 at 5:58 am

    I know people will mention that Brady took less money and the team used that to build great teams and if Burrows wants to win he should do the same. Well that statement is false. They won because Brady and the coaching were really good. The Patriots were wise with their signings at all positions, drafted well, didn’t overpay for players, signed decent players and coaching them up. Did Brady take slightly less money, yes.
    The whole story about Brady didn’t have to be the highest paid QB because his wife was rich was something he said on a late night talk show as a joke and people ran with it. They always had a strong offensive and defensive line and built out from there.
    __________________________________

    Brady also took less money that didn’t count against the cap. Why would he do this when he already took less that counted against the cap? You never know with those nefarious Patriots, but he did the same with Tampa. He must have some deep internal love for owners.

  29. This guy shouldn’t be talking about other teams’ rosters with envy. Bad look for a GM.

  30. Bengals had advantage of the Lamar getting injured the last 2 years and cake-walking to winning the division.

  31. He’s right. It’s a different ball game when you go into the tank for several years to get top 5 talent. Cincy, Rams, TB prior to Brady, Jax etc. Teams like the Seahawks and Pats had long runs drafting at the bottom even if they more recently took a slight step back. Both are on the rise again and never fell much below .500.

  32. And the Bengals passed on Mahomes to take John Ross in 2017. But didn’t Buffalo spend not one but TWO 1st Round picks, PLUS a 4th Round pick, to draft Sammy Watkins? You takes your chances, some pay off. Grow up.

  33. He’s right, bengals got another high pick because Burrow got hurt and the Bengals lost a ton of games. Worked out great for the Bengals.

  34. This is why you don’t trade 1st for a player you have to pay. You could have had a rookie WR but decided to pay out for one.

  35. Sounds like excuses, poor drafting, trades and managing of the salary cap. We can see why Vikings dumped Diggs on you.

  36. Very true. That’s the NFL right now. That’s why, as Eagles fans, we know how important it is to get it done this year before guys like Jalen Hurts, DeVonta Smith, Myles Sanders and Dallas Goedert get paid. It’s a challenge. One that only the Patriots have really figured out. And as someone else already pointed out, with the Patriots, it went beyond Tom Brady re-negotiating his contract. They made very smart/frugal personnel decisions during that run. I’m not a Patriots fan, but damn…I know in my lifetime that I will never see another franchise like that.

  37. The Bengals sucked for a long time to be able to get to the point of losing a Super Bowl…….don’t hate.

  38. Yeah, and you were warned. You ditched picks for Diggs and could have drafted Jefferson. You then overpaid a boatload of people like White, Miller, Milano, etc. All good players at their respective stages, but you overpaid without leverage.

    As stated, last year with a chance to host the AFC title game, it was their best window.

    Now Allen and Diggs’s deals come home to roost and lots of turnover set to happen.

  39. Well Brandon, Burrow is better then Allen and Chase is better then Diggs. Cincinnati D is better than Buffalo D.

  40. “The whole story about Brady didn’t have to be the highest paid QB because his wife was rich was something he said on a late night talk show as a joke and people ran with it.”

    Exactly! He was doing that even before he met Gisele. Other than Brady, every position in the roster was acquired with the cap vs performance in mind. They didn’t often draft well especially in WR but they admit their mistakes early and move on quickly.

  41. And what is Kansas City’s advantage Brandon? You tried to do like the Rams and Bucs and it didn’t pan out.

  42. Howie Roseman and the Eagles use an interesting formula that I think a lot of teams will eventually adopt. It helped them win a Super Bowl in 2017 and it’s a big reason they’re hosting the NFC Championship again on Sunday. That formula relies on filling holes with 1-year contracts. In 2017, guys like Torey Smith, Ronald Darby, Chris Long and LeGarrette Blount were brought it on 1 year deals and they all produced. This year they brought in Gardner-Johnson, James Bradberry, Ndamukon Suh and Linval Joseph and hit on all of them.
    Doesn’t always work though. They tried the same thing in 2018, signing Haloti Nagata, Michael Bennet and Mike Wallace to 1-year deals. They won a playoff game that year, but only Bennet was a significant contributor to that team.

  43. So you’re saying Burrow and Chase are better than Allen and Diggs? Thanks, we knew that already!

  44. The window on the bills opportunity to win the super bowl is closing.

    A team in their situation has to get lucky and draft well

  45. Now we see where the Bills fans get their excuse making speciality from.
    Talk about sour grapes after a loss.

  46. Yeah, they shouldn’t have to apologize for getting superstars in back-to-back drafts… Only one of the remaining four teams has a QB on a huge contract.

  47. Beane seems to be doing a whole lot of talking for somebody that should (at this point) be focusing on the offseason.

  48. Beane got his you know what handed to him what we all learned is this is pretty much a one man team and when he has a bad day forget about it. Crying about your draft position is for losers a talented GM would have by now gotten some quality RB’s the Bills rely on Allen to do everything.
    Which is Beane’s fault he is paid handsomely to assemble a Super Bowl quality team we all see that he was not successful .

  49. Some team(s) or GM(s) will have to give less “respect” (money) to players. Players & fans will scream “pay the man”

  50. Like I said yesterday, the window is closed for a ring. They are going to be good enough to be competitive, but they arent going to be a SB winning team.

  51. As noted above, the Patriots showed the NFL how to do it (much to my frustration lol) for two decades. Lots of reasons why: an incredible eye for talent, resisting the temptation of cap hell, having a QB everyone wants to play for and being a great (defensive) minded coach.

  52. Well… yeah. The rookie window for franchise QBs is now the most important time for teams. All the team’s contracts have to be structured around that, knowing once that second contract kicks in, they have no flexibility. We’re going to be hitting a time where championship teams are either QBs in their first 5 years, or veterans who have already made their money and are taking below market value.

  53. Excuses Excuses Excuses, Bills have always been a subpar team. I mean they lost 4 Super Bowls in a Row. Every teams is given the same salary cap and draft picks, how you use them is up to you. Beane took a big risk with Von and it back fired on them. Last year they cried about getting “screwed” in OT against KC and convinced the NFL to change the rules and then the NFL helped them out with the Hamlin situation and stealing the #2 seed from Cincinnati.

    Want to hear a Bills joke? What dose Bills stand for????

    Boy
    I
    Love
    Losing
    Super Bowls
    (Shout out to Joy Taylor for that one)

  54. These types of comments always seem to come back and bite the person who said it when blame is cast elsewhere. Like another commenter said, this same GM could have drafted Justin Jefferson in 2020 instead of signing Stefon Diggs to a huge contract in 2020. So, Brandon Beane is telling on himself that he put himself the this situation, signing Diggs to a big contract and not drafting Jefferson, that he is complaining about. I’m not down on him or judging him for being an imperfect human, but he is putting his foot in his mouth. Who wants to hear their GM say, “We will never be able to compete with them” when everyone plays with the same rule book and then he takes a jab at the Bengals and says the only reason they are in this position because the Bengals stunk so long and had high picks. How many high picks did the Browns have and they still struggle. So, it is a fact that the Bengals decision makers made better choices with their high draft picks than many of the other teams have recently that had high draft picks. High draft picks alone don’t make a team successful. It is what a team does with those high draft picks. The Bengals deserve credit, not to be shamed for past performances of coaches or management that is possibly no longer with the Bengals now.

  55. No one made Beane give up a bunch of draft picks and pay big money for Diggs. Staying in place could have Justin Jefferson, cap room and draft picks to build a better team. Crying over spilt milk since his team was crushed by the Bengals.

  56. ——————-
    madmax21613 says:
    January 25, 2023 at 5:08 am
    Seems to me this is great drafting. They were able to get two immediate contributors straight out of college.
    ——————–
    Remember they were picked #1 and #5, it’s fairly easy to get great players then. The Bills haven’t had a draft pick that low since 2014! They got Josh at #7, but had to make multiple trades to get that low.

  57. Yes the Bengals have the luxury of cap space but Beane was the one who paid a 33 year old Von Miller a 6 year deal worth 120 million. A Moneyball approach of sorts would have worked better for the Bills say paying 2 pass rushers 10 million versus one player a hefty 20 million. Teams can overcome the cap constraints they just need to be smart about handing out large contracts to non QB’s/non WR’s.
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    I largely agree with you/this but just to play devil’s advocate: the Bills before and after Miller’s injury looked like two completely different teams.

  58. 3 of the 4 remaining teams all have a QB with a rookie contract, this allows you to stack your team in other areas, that is just facts!

  59. You can’t make mistakes like signing Von Miller to a costly deal that will impact you for years.

  60. Man, I thought the lame excuses only came from Bills fans. Never realized that the organization/management is just like the fanbase. Cry me a river.

  61. That “hefty number” looks even worse with the disappearing act from Allen & Diggs in the divisional round.

  62. If only there was a position on the team who was responsible for acquiring talent, managing the salary cap, and putting the best team on the field today without mortgaging tomorrow. The Bills should really hire someone to do that job.

  63. Bills sound like an organization that knows its window is closed. To claim the Bengals are good because of two players on rookie contracts is absurd, and I doubt Beane truly believes what he’s sayiny.

  64. and yet the Bills were Still a six point favorite at a home game the league gift wrapped for them.
    Here’s some handy tips for you Mr. Beane:
    Draft better.
    Coach harder
    Play smarter.
    Quit making lame-ass excuses.

  65. Waaaaaa. So let me guess…you’re saying you built a roster to win the division and wild-card games and an occasional divisional playoff game whereas Cincy built one for championships?

  66. And what if you had won that game, huh? Would you be saying in your press conference that the Bills beat a team with more talent???

  67. Just imagine if the 49ers would have drafted Chase instead of Lance with the 3rd overall pick in 2021?

  68. Man, people sure do like piling on the Bills these days. If it makes you all feel better, I don’t know a single Bills fan who isn’t miserable this week, or one who thinks we’ll ever win a SB.

    Beane is just speaking truth. We always expect athletes, coaches, GM’s, et al. to just gloss over the realities. He’s not “making excuses.”

    I trust Beane to keep building teams that can contend. The Bills peaked too early this season, but I’d maintain they were as good as anyone. Cincy was playing much better later in the season, and deserve credit.

    I’ll be as excited as ever when September rolls around. While I join my fellow fans in thinking we’ll probably never get over the hump, I’ll always HOPE we do, and while we have Allen there will always be a chance.

  69. dktd says:
    January 25, 2023 at 7:03 am

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    Ah yes…the sheer brilliance of drafting the best QB available with the #1 pick when your team needed a franchise QB, and drafting the arguably best WR prospect (who played with said QB no less). Astounding level of skill indeed.

    —-

    Apparently you don’t recall the plethora of #1 overall busts, nor some of the talking heads stating that the Bengals franchise should be taken away if they didn’t draft Penei Sewell, instead of Chase. It’s okay though – the Bengals don’t need your respect.

  70. How did he expect these comments to be viewed? He’s literally saying other teams have done a better job than he did in the same situation.

  71. Don’t pay your QB so much and you can afford to have more talent around him. Unfortunately that will never happen because there will always be someone willing to overpay for a QB. And then you hear excuses like this or you hear about how Dallas and their $40 million per year QB didn’t have a chance as soon as their RB got hurt

  72. 3 of the 4 remaining teams all have a QB with a rookie contract, this allows you to stack your team in other areas, that is just facts!
    —————

    And last year 3 of the 4 remaining teams didn’t have QB’s on rookie contracts. In fact, there haven’t been many teams that have won a Super Bowl with a QB on a rookie contract.

    How many times have we seen a QB and/or WR drafted in the top 10 that never pan out? There are an endless number of players who fit that description. If you’re gonna take players that high you better make sure those players are who you think they are. The Bengals obviously did that.

    A QB on a rookie contract does allow a team to be more aggressive in free agency which did allow the Bengals to sign guys line Reader, Hendrickson, Awuzie, and a few badly needed O-linemen, but that QB has to be good enough to make it matter. Obviously Burrow is.

    In my opinion, what separates a lot of teams is how they draft in rounds 2-4. The Bengals have crushed those rounds in the draft in recent years. Hubbard, Bates, Boyd, Higgins, Pratt, Wilson, Taylor-Britt, Volson, Ossai and some key pieces in the DT rotation have all been drafted in rounds 2-4. All very good players.

    Honestly, if I was the owner of a team and my GM had THAT answer as to why his team wasn’t successful, he wouldn’t be my GM anymore.

  73. Remember when Beane had the Bills in back-to-back AFC title games with Allen on his rookie deal? Yeah me neither. Might also be worth asking Beane how the Chiefs are doing it with Mahomes and Kelce (and previously Hill being highly paid).

  74. The Bengals will have to start making some very difficult decisions. Fan favorites will go to other teams. The Patriots have shown there is a way to win with a highly paid QB. Drafting will be key. If they can draft decent players to replace guys who will want to get paid, they can win. If draft picks miss, they won’t win big time.

  75. We’re not making excuses, but here’s our list of excuses. And Bills fans that did all their crowing on this site deserve it. Although, I can understand people getting excited when they’ve never won a thing. Nah, not really

  76. There’s a simple solution, Mr. Beane. You could always trade your big contract QB and draft a rookie to be your starter. Don’t want to do that? Then quit complaining.

  77. tedmurph says:
    January 25, 2023 at 9:43 am
    We’re not making excuses, but here’s our list of excuses. And Bills fans that did all their crowing on this site deserve it. Although, I can understand people getting excited when they’ve never won a thing. Nah, not really

    20Rate This
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    What I cant’t figure out is why you’d want to be well above the radar as a target when your franchise lost 4 straight SBs and generally sucked the last 20 years. Very strange way to go about trying to win it.

    And, that’s not even mentioning the insufferable fanbase with the “Mafia” stupidity and frat boy tailgate antics.

    What tradition!

  78. The problem with this BS and just how worthless Beane is, Josh is still basically on his rookie contract with a cap hit of around $16 million. The extension kicks in next year when his cap hit jumps to $40 million and a lot of their talent is cut or leaves because they no longer can afford that, which is the door slamming shut. Beane’s inability to draft talent will really hurt next year.

  79. Beane is a pretty accountable dude and answers questions a lot more straight and honest than most in his position. You can be happy he gives you something actually worth listening to or you can take a couple soundbites out of context and blast him for it… Me? I’d rather listen to Beane than McDermott, who will give you next to nothing.

  80. He might think that way but to say it to the press is just a bad look for a GM. Keep it to yourself.

  81. I think it’s highly ironic that Cincy’s build is far superior to Buffalo’s and Beane is not only making excuses, but also bashing the team that has a clear, better teambuild with better drafting, FA moves, walking from people like the Jets Carl Lawson, etc.

    The Hutchinson and Karras signings were also strong moves in FA by Cincy.

    They have a good secondary, versatile front and an overall balanced club without the mid roster holes that Buffalo has.

    Total arrogance from Beane here.

  82. Not to mention they went all in this year. Paid an old Von Miller big cheese. I don’t wish injuries on any player, but Miller got hurt. What a shocka. Now the Bills are about 8 mil over the cap. They’ll probably lose Poyer, among others. Who knows if Brady or ARodgers end up in the AFCE. But still they’re yapping. It’s the little brother beat down syndrome. And by the way, McDermott is a bottom 5 coach, and Daboll may have been worth more than people think. That Bills team lacks toughness. I will say, their fans are pretty cool. Best tailgate in the NFL, and I’ve been to a few. A few too many.

  83. Stop hating … He is just stating the facts. Good drafting happens when you get a good player at the end of the draft, not at the front of the draft. You have to suck pretty severely to get the #1 and #5 picks in the draft.

  84. Unless you are like Mahomes,Kelce or Brady and take less so you can have better players around you to be a winner you are going to be be a loser.

  85. Hey conveniently forgot Burrow played on a higher level than Allen during their respective first season in the NFL.

    You can also make an argument Burrow played better in their respective third seasons as well despite Allen’s MVP type third year.

    Just say it Beane: Burrow > Allen

  86. The Bengals hate is so funny. People are just beside themselves, like oh crap we gotta deal w these guys for the next 10 great. All these advantages lol Buffalo knows that game shouldve been played in Cincinnati in the first place. You got your behinds smacked now go sit down and dont worry about their drafts worry about yours.

  87. Weak excuses and to name his own players as having hefty contracts is worse. They’ll see this. Not a good look.

  88. That was an unprofessional statement by Beane. The Bengals must be smiling today knowing they are living rent-free in the Bills heads. Also, Von Miller. Yeah. Not a good signing there Mr. General Manager.

  89. Burrow_to_Chase says:
    January 25, 2023 at 9:30 am
    dktd says:
    January 25, 2023 at 7:03 am

    ———————–

    Ah yes…the sheer brilliance of drafting the best QB available with the #1 pick when your team needed a franchise QB, and drafting the arguably best WR prospect (who played with said QB no less). Astounding level of skill indeed.

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    Apparently you don’t recall the plethora of #1 overall busts, nor some of the talking heads stating that the Bengals franchise should be taken away if they didn’t draft Penei Sewell, instead of Chase. It’s okay though – the Bengals don’t need your respect.
    ——————

    Man…I get it…it’s fun to feel like EVERYTHING is a slight at your favorite team, they get no respect, etc. But stop looking for reasons to feel that way however possible.

    Burrow could not have possibly been more of a slam dunk pick. Yes, there have been plenty of top pick busts, it happens. But for their QB need and in that draft, he was far and away the no brainer. My point was it was not some feat of GM brilliance that he was taken. It was good fortune that they needed a QB the year where such an elite prospect was available and not when it was the Jones/Haskins draft or even the Pickett (still could be very good but there’s no comparison to Joe)/Willis/Ridder draft. And the whole reason for the comment is that all across the internet right now there are claims of (as the original commenter I responded to here said) ‘that’s just good drafting,’ indicating that it was Cincy’s scouting/due diligence/superior drafting that led to Burrow getting them to this point, when he was as obvious as they come to take.

    That said…fair enough on the Chase point.

  90. Bills fans are still yapping, according to the Pats fans who yap, and yap, and yap, and will likely never stop yapping.

    Oh, I know. They’ve ‘earned’ it.

    I think when some fans hear “I’m excited about the season for my team,” they intepret it as “we’re winning the Super Bowl!” Fans can be excited. It’s okay. It’s weird to think that fanbases who haven’t won yet should just mope around and know their place.

  91. Hey should be quiet, as a matter of fact both teams involved in that game need to be quiet, the classless behavior and whining from Buffalo, and the classless “we were wronged” bravado from Cincy. MOVE ON. Beane is gonna be in a world of hurt the next two years, thats what huge QB contracts will do to you. So in essence, lets see what happens to KC, then Cincy then Philly when the chickens (the QB and a few WR contracts) come home to roost. Several of them will be in the same situation. Zona will be too, Cleveland and whoever decides to pay Jackson (Baltimore more immediately if its them) another mediocre team with cap space potentially. Also Denver, HA, lets see how that contract and lack of picks works out. GB too. The Gms and owners have decided to go down this road with the QB contracts, and now they will have shorter and shorter windows for their championship runs, thats why the NE “model” will never be repeated, because the contracts are too big and the style of play is not what it was in 2000-2016 etc..

    Beane can manage this, he is smart enough, he did it in a rough market that no one wanted to play in, and look at them now. They will be a borderline Wildcard team for the next few years and prob will miss playoffs in two years, and then they can tinker some more with the roster and contracts when they offload some bad ones or they cut aging or oft-injured players etc…oh yeah, and when they get a new OC and DC and possibly HC because those three areas are now big concerns.

  92. The salary cap has run its course. The floor is more important.

    Make sure Spanos and the other mooches can’t steal money from the owners that actually DO care about the product.

    Sure, you’ll get a team like the Rams that will sell out once and awhile. As we just saw, its no guarantee of success.

  93. jamesmatthiascox says:
    January 25, 2023 at 5:15 am
    The Patriots were able to do it for decades cutting, trading and restructuring deals. Sometimes making moves everyone questioned but somehow they worked out.
    ===============

    I can explain how those moves always seemed to pan out.
    That said, Burrow is cut from a different cloth than Allen. Get used to him and Mahomes battling it out for AFC supremacy.

  94. Brandon, how about just saying hey Cincinnati beat us. Cincinnati outplayed us. Cincinnati is a great team. Being a bad loser is a terrible look.

  95. Excuses excuses! The Bills could’ve had Justin Jefferson on a rookie deal, but traded that pick to the Vikings for Diggs and have to pay Diggs. Allen’s extension is kicking into full swing next year. His salary ballon’s from $16 million to $39 million. And the Von Miller contract? It looks like the excuses will continue as the Bills now have to shed some players to get under the cap. Enjoy!

  96. He’s not wrong, but I don’t know why he’d say all this aloud.

    I mean, “I don’t have a QB on a rookie deal” is true because you took a rookie QB who’d take time to develop. You lost those years. (Still the right choice)

    And he doesn’t have a WR on a rookie deal because he didn’t draft one.

    He’s more or less complaining about himself and his own strategy. It’s weird.

  97. This
    jf1960 says:
    January 25, 2023 at 6:45 am
    The best way to build a team ,draft lineman every year, it all starts up front, on both sides. Lions had Stafford,and Johnson, and didn’t come close to winning, until they drafted Suh…
    _____________

    The Lions won after drafting Suh? Are you sure?

  98. It’s funny people commenting like this was the entirety of what he said, only made a lame excuse, and took no accountability…never mind what he said is true. It’s not like he was ripping on the Bengals or taking away from their accomplishments.

  99. Quit making excuses. You lost. You’re admitting indirectly that you’re not good at your job and not great at hiring people that are good talent evaluators.
    Bills Mafia deserve better.

    Who Dey

  100. I wonder if this is his way of preparing Bills fans for a diggs trade. I say this with no idea what that would do to their salary cap. 3 good franchises traded their stud receiver a year ago. I grant you only the Chiefs are still standing but over the next couple of years trading all 3 gave each team a chance to add (if done well) 3 or 4 quality rookies. But we shall see.

  101. Wow, this is crazy talk. I bet the other 31 GMs in the league are doing huge face palms, over Beane complaining about another team’s success, that’s crazy talk.

  102. While that’s true, it’s a fact of life in the NFL if you want to have a real chance to win the Super Bowl every year. Most teams win the Super Bowl when they have key players on rookie contracts.

    Going forward, the Bills need to build around Allen modestly and find value in free agency and the draft where other people don’t. Diggs was a 5th round WR for example. Go find another Diggs. That’s how you stay good. It’s very hard to do.

    That’s where the GM abilities of Belichick are sometimes overlooked. Yes, it all started with Brady, but Belichick managed to get Welker, Edelman, Gronk etc. when they were all undervalued for various reasons. He also hit on some foundational players with his high draft picks like Seymour, Hightower, Wilfork, McCourty. Not flashy, but great players. The Bills need to do the same. Keep the defense good for Allen and find some reasonably priced hidden gems for Allen on the offense.

  103. The GM is just as salty as the fans. First it was the “weather” in Miami and now it’s “the other team has cheaper players” excuse. Soo much hype surrounding this Bills team that hasn’t won anything… ever. This was the 3rd year in a row with all this Super Bowl talk. They haven’t even gotten there. It’s starting to look like they won’t.

  104. He was talking to Buffalo – he wasn’t giving a national address.

    So many overreactions.

  105. Heck New England would win playoff games and championships with a bunch of “nobody’s”. They had Brady and that was who we all knew. Amandola and Gronk weren’t pilling up stats… it was coaching. There players played disciplined and were at spots they needed to be on the field.
    Buffalo got outcoached.

    Oh and to those sensitive bengals fans who complain about respect; this is what happens when people give you too much respect..losses hurt and you start playing the blame games, excuses etc

  106. It’s called, ‘Act like you’ve been there’, before you start yapping. And, instead of pointing out all the advantages other teams had, how about admitting what you did just wasn’t good enough.

  107. He has a point- as a Bengal’s fan for 30 years you were happy to even reach .500. But at end of the day both team’s having the same thing to show for years of being mediocre (Buffalo) and sucking (Bengals) and that’s a combined 0 Lombardi Trophies. So I’ll take Chase on rookie contracts over Diggs on a bloated contracted. The statement above leads me to believe this is a prelude to Diggs being the causality to get under the cap with his recent antics and performances. Hell I wanna see the Bills do well, why not stock pile late round picks this year, tank 2023 and get you a big time receiver and come at it again in 2024?

  108. Sucks for you Brandon. This sounds like sour grapes. Buff had a shot last season, but their D couldn’t stop KC in 13 seconds to get in FG range. That is the way it is. I don’t feel sorry for Buff at all.

  109. Bills 2022 excuse: NFL overtime rules are unfair.
    Bills 2023 excuse: Bengals GM drafted the right player with right pick last year.
    Bills 2024 excuse: ?

  110. Oh, please. Patriots fans act like they’ve never been there w/ the giddy celebration of the Bills’ demise. And not just here – I was surprised by some of their boards, and kind of amused at how much the Bills are in their heads now. You would think the Bills have been beating them for decades instead of the other way around.

    I actually pulled for the Pats in ’01. I had no animosity toward them, even though they were a division rival. I’m not saying Pats fans should pull for the Bills to get their 1st, but the strength of the opposite reaction is really somethin’.

    But there also was a time before 2001 and all of that winning. And guess what? Pats fans got excited about their team in those years, too. They didn’t need to win it all to have a license to be excited about their team.

  111. loser148 says:
    January 25, 2023 at 9:05 am
    He’s right, and the same situation is coming to Philly soon too.

    ——————————————————————

    Not quite the same situation. Unlike Buffalo, they hit on a lot of draft picks over the past 5 years. Other than Hasson Reddick, they don’t currently have any high-priced free agents signed to multi-year deals. And unlike Cincinnati, Philly only had 1 down year since 2017 in which they didn’t make the playoffs. So they didn’t get gifted multiple high draft picks.
    Roseman used that 1 high pick and Carson Wentz to obtain multiple 1st & 2nd round draft picks. Since 2017, they essentially rebuilt their roster without “sucking”. They drafted *Jalen Hurts (2nd round), *Miles Sanders (2nd), Dallas Goedert (2nd), DeVonta Smith (1st) Jordan Davis (1st), traded for *A.J. Brown (for a 1st), *Landon Dickerson (2nd), Jordan Mailata (7th)

    *2022 Pro Bowl Selections

  112. “paulage77 says:
    January 25, 2023 at 3:21 pm
    He has a point- as a Bengal’s fan for 30 years you were happy to even reach .500. But at end of the day both team’s having the same thing to show for years of being mediocre (Buffalo) and sucking (Bengals) and that’s a combined 0 Lombardi Trophies. So I’ll take Chase on rookie contracts over Diggs on a bloated contracted. The statement above leads me to believe this is a prelude to Diggs being the causality to get under the cap with his recent antics and performances. Hell I wanna see the Bills do well, why not stock pile late round picks this year, tank 2023 and get you a big time receiver and come at it again in 2024?”
    ___________________

    Great post & I agree w/ a lot of it – but tanking in 2023 is absolutely out of the question!

    I could maybe see a mini-rebuild of sorts, but probably more in ’25. They got Von Miller for a reason. They have to try to go all in for next year at least to see if that can pay off.

  113. They had some lean years, and without getting too much into their build, I don’t want to suck bad enough to have to get Ja’Marr Chase.
    —-
    Well the Bills sucked the right amount to draft Josh Allen so….

  114. Tom Brady says:
    January 25, 2023 at 11:12 am
    jamesmatthiascox says:
    January 25, 2023 at 5:15 am
    The Patriots were able to do it for decades cutting, trading and restructuring deals. Sometimes making moves everyone questioned but somehow they worked out.
    ===============

    I can explain how those moves always seemed to pan out.
    —-
    Surely you aren’t going to start talking about the QB who has ZERO winning seasons without elite coaching (Belichick HOF lock, Arians HOF maybe and 2X NFL COTY) are you? 🙂

  115. Bills have not had the running game or the defense to go all of the way. That’s it. The Bengals have not had the O-Line and sometimes not the defense to go all of the way. Bills made a mistake by investing into Sammy Watkins who was a one trick pony and the league caught onto the trick. Bills looked bad against the 3rd string QB of the Dolphins and the Bengals. They have a good QB. The media crowned them before accomplishing anything. They do it with the Cowboys every year.

  116. I hate to say it, but Beane is starting to look like he might not be long in Buffalo. He’s been given a lot of praise for the rebuild but a lot of that was from FA signings and drafting Allen. Most of his picks haven’t amounted to much. He traded a 1st rd pick for Diggs, but again doesn’t help improve his draft track record. Oliver hasn’t lived up to a top 10 pick, Edmunds has been good, but now that he’s coming into his own, he’ll sign somewhere else, they can’t afford him. Rousseau has been hit or miss, but still not good enough. On offense, Davis and Knox, who are both meh. We’ll see about Cook and Shakir. But he better nail this next draft or the Bills run of even being a playoff team could be over.

  117. How about you take accountability for your current circumstances instead of pointing across the yard to cover for your team’s lack of ability to perform in high leverage situations. This is not what accountability looks like. He and Zach Wilson should have dinner or something.

  118. “tigerlilac says:
    January 25, 2023 at 7:07 am
    What he said is true but reveals they will never be the Patriots. Buffalo fans hate the comparisons but those fans, and now their GM, love to point fingers and make excuses.

    The Patriots had two decades of success picking at the bottom of rounds, if Goodell didn’t take the picks away. They played UDFA and guys on the backend of their careers because Belichick always considered contract value in relationship to value added on the field. It helped that Brady was a team oriented guy.

    It’s hard to win it all in any year never-mind maintain excellence over extended periods.

    Look at all the promised dynasties (The Greatest Show On Turf, Peyton Manning’s Colts, the 12th Man Seahawks, Sean Payton’s Saints, the McVay Rams, the Mahomes Chiefs) that were one and done with KC possibly breaking that trend. Heck, I remember how the Falcons were anointed as unstoppable until they blew a gasket against the Pats in the super bowl. This year it was Buffalo and instead the Eagles are looking great and poised to add value in the draft.

    This year has been a reality check on fan delusion because, as Parcells said, you are what your record says you are. And, as Adam Vinatieri said, it took both Belichick and Brady to sustain winning and trying to pick one over the other is nonsensical.”
    _________________________

    You got all of that out of this one statement?

    And I guess you’re claiming here that the Bills are done?

    I used to respect your posting. But this is so over the top.

  119. And I don’t want the Bills to “be the Patriots.” I just want a championship.

    Pats fans really are Yankees fans now. And I say that as a Yankees fan.

  120. Beane is a really good GM. IYou guys probably don’t want the days of Donahoe and Nix back.

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