Report: Derek Carr back at Saints facility on Thursday

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Quarterback Derek Carr and the Saints might really be hitting it off.

According to Nick Underhill of NewOrleans.football, Carr is back at the team’s headquarters on Thursday after beginning his visit with the club on Wednesday.

Underhill adds that Wednesday’s meeting between Carr and the Saints lasted until 10:30 p.m.

Carr received permission to meet with New Orleans from the Raiders earlier this week. It’s the first team Carr has met with since it became clear that Las Vegas intended to move on from its longtime quarterback.

Carr still holds a no-trade clause and has said that he’s not extending the deadline for his $40.4 million in guarantees to kick in on Feb. 15. Because of that, it’s always been more likely that Las Vegas will release Carr before his guaranteed salary vests.

If that happens, Carr could sign with the Saints without New Orleans giving up an asset to acquire him. Or Carr could go and meet with some other teams as a free agent before he decides where he’d like to play in 2023.

45 responses to “Report: Derek Carr back at Saints facility on Thursday

  1. With Brady gone NFC South is wide open, would be a chance for Carr to win a division title and go to the playoffs.

  2. Great he can hook up with the Great Dennis Allen again. I can see the Saints winning at least 2 games next year.

  3. I have no problem with the Saints signing him, but I need someone to explain to me how a team that’s 60 million over the cap is going to sign a free agent QB to even a below market deal

  4. The raiders are quickly becoming one of the most poorly run franchises in the league. Carr is wise to get out of there without doing them a single favor. Unless maybe Davis gives him some of his under the carpet kickbacks

  5. Carr is smart, he is using his leverage to his advantage. Carr should also visit Tampa, Atlanta, and Carolina since they all need QBs.

  6. Concede no ground, Derek! While you might not be a great QB, you would be an upgrade over the idiots the Saints played last year. Force Las Vegas’ hand. It would be a hoot if they cut you and got nothing in return.

  7. I don’t understand why any team would trade for him when everybody in the league knows he will be released in 6 days?

  8. where do you suggest the Saints get this elite QB you speak of? 90% of the NFL is looking for that.

  9. psubeerman21 says:
    February 9, 2023 at 3:24 pm
    I have no problem with the Saints signing him, but I need someone to explain to me how a team that’s 60 million over the cap is going to sign a free agent QB to even a below market deal

    They’ll extend a few guys contracts and push the money to future years, and possibly release a few players.
    The Saints have been doing this the past few seasons, and all they’ve managed to do is lose every meaningful game and also lose talented players like Trey Hendrickson, Terron Armstead, CJ Gardner-Johnson, Von Bell, Marcus Williams, and Sheldon Rankins year after year.

  10. Carr is a good dude and maybe a change of scenery will help him. As a Raider fan, we hope he does well and that we get a QB that can get us over the hump.

  11. A reason a team would trade for him is because they’re not guaranteed they would get him amongst all the other suitors when he becomes a free agent duh

  12. purplepridepolysemy says:
    February 9, 2023 at 3:30 pm
    I don’t understand why any team would trade for him when everybody in the league knows he will be released in 6 days?

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    Because they could give up, say a 3rd round pick and agree with the Raiders to cover a portion of the $40M due.

  13. Imagine having a Krystal burger in hand (Dalton) and still wanting to hit the drive thru for a White Castle slider (Carr). But also you’re paying 3-4x more for the slider. Should go well.

  14. The Saints can’t afford Carr. They’d have to release players with big cap hits for 2023to make room. Sure they could spread it out over 5 years, maybe more.. but I just can’t see where they could make an $$$ offer that would satisfy Carr and his agent. There will be better offers if he waits.

  15. rockpiler says:
    February 9, 2023 at 3:25 pm
    The raiders are quickly becoming one of the most poorly run franchises in the league.
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    Not quickly. The rot has been present for a long time. Over the past twenty years, the Raiders have managed two winning seasons, each of which was a quick exit in the Wildcard round. Their regular season 0.360 win percentage over that span has got to be pretty close to the bottom as well. Al Davis was once a shrewd owner, but not so much during his last decade and his son Mark, never.

  16. whodatjp says:
    February 9, 2023 at 3:26 pm
    Meh… Just another version of Andy Dalton and isn’t the elite QB we need.

    This is what I don’t get about this front office. We aren’t one player away from a SB. Hell, we aren’t one player away from making the playoffs. Let’s think of the positions where the Saints are set. RT, C, RB, LB, CB are about the only positions that we don’t have to worry about. We could use upgrades at both S spots, could use upgrades along the O and D-lines, Olave looks great but lets be real MT needs to go. It made sense to go all in when you have a HOF QB in the pocket. Now this team is among the oldest in the league, barely a .500 team, and we keep restructuring contracts for players that should be released (Peat, MT, and sorry Cam, love ya, but you’ve lost several steps). Front office needs to be fired for their stupidity, but Loomis is so entrenched with ownership it will never happened.

    Signed,
    A Saints fan not blinded by team loyalty

  17. Carr should hold off till he’s sure he’s found his new home… don’t want Raiders part deux ….
    Let FA & teams show their desire to have him be their guy….doesn’t have to bust the bank, 30+ million a year should work just fine, especially depending on where he settles

  18. purplepridepolysemy says:
    February 9, 2023 at 3:30 pm
    I don’t understand why any team would trade for him when everybody in the league knows he will be released in 6 days?

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    Because they could give up, say a 3rd round pick and agree with the Raiders to cover a portion of the $40M due.

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    With a trade the Saints avoid a bidding war. And no other way would Carr would get $40M.

  19. purplepridepolysemy says:
    February 9, 2023 at 3:30 pm
    I don’t understand why any team would trade for him when everybody in the league knows he will be released in 6 days?

    Theoretically, if the Saints absolutely wanted Carr they could make the trade for him before he becomes a free agent and has the chance to talk to any other teams that might be interested. To my knowledge, the Raiders have only permitted Carr to speak with the Saints. However, agents talk and players talk… so if another team wants Carr my guess is that word has already gotten to him. In the end, it’s an Carr’s best interest to become a free agent for the reasons Florio has indicated – unless he gets an offer too good to refuse.

  20. The Raiders screwed up by letting it leak that they only want a 3rd. If a team needs a QB and can fit him under the cap while keeping their 1st and 2nd it would be a win-win for the team getting Carr.

    He’s a good not elite QB that can win when he has weapons and an O line to protect him. It may be worth it to a team that just needs a QB and has everything else.

  21. Other tha not being mobile in the pocket, once Dalton was clearly the starter, he did ok. Several turnovers were tipped balls etc and not his fault, several losses not due to his performance. What can Carr bring to improve on that? At least if Dalton remains with saints that sets them up with a very good backup, be it Dalton or Carr.

  22. psubeerman21 says:
    I have no problem with the Saints signing him, but I need someone to explain to me how a team that’s 60 million over the cap is going to sign a free agent QB to even a below market deal
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    See: Rams, Los Angeles

  23. psubeerman21 says:
    February 9, 2023 at 3:24 pm

    I have no problem with the Saints signing him, but I need someone to explain to me how a team that’s 60 million over the cap is going to sign a free agent QB to even a below market deal

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    It’s easy to structure a multi-year contract so there’s much less of a cap hit in the early years. Carr’s salary for next season could be the league minimum, along with by a huge signing bonus with the cap hit for the bonus spread out among all years of the contract.

  24. Yeah this should end well for the raiders lol what a mess they’ve created. Always have & will continue to root for Derek Carr. Not sure what I like about him, certainly hasn’t been his play but whatever, hope he gets whatever he wants in this situation

  25. There is a certain category of QB that Cousins, Carr and Dak fit into where they have all the skills, they’re smart, they are decent leaders, etc. However, you are never going to win a Super Bowl with them. They’ve proven they don’t have what it takes over several years. It’s hard for teams to figure out what to do with them, because they can win a lot of games, have good seasons, make the playoffs, maybe win a playoff game, but they are never winning the Super Bowl.

    Its the worst because if teams move away from them, like the Raiders are going to do, they could end up even worse, but it’s inevitable that you have to let them go or you can’t win.

    The only ways out of it are to let them go and end up so bad you get a top pick or to find a diamond in the rough that ends up being great that can beat them out of the starting spot.

    In a way that was Bledsoe/Brady. Bledsoe was a first overall QB that was never going to win a Super Bowl. Many fans wanted to keep Bledsoe as a starter even after Brady won the first Super Bowl.

  26. Some Raiders fans thought they should have beaten the Saints this year but they got thumped really hard. I was not surprised, good luck to Carr and the Saints if he goes there, they are already playing at a decent level so he has to be good to elevate them.

  27. trumpsgottago4386 says:
    February 9, 2023 at 4:48 pm
    Yeah this should end well for the raiders lol what a mess they’ve created. Always have & will continue to root for Derek Carr. Not sure what I like about him, certainly hasn’t been his play but whatever, hope he gets whatever he wants in this situation

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    He appears to be a really good teammate and person, so I agree on the personal front, but he’s not going to win anything.

  28. Going to be interesting QB situation in LV. M Davis is reportedly broke after a series of bad financial decisions including his WNBA franchise. Hard to see him forking over 100 million plus to Rodgers for a couple of years.

  29. I think Carr would be a good addition for just about anyone. He’s not top 5, but he’s a better option than some.

  30. Rodgers money would have to fit under the cap. They car going to spend it one way or the other.

    I prefer the other….

  31. Rodgers money would have to fit under the cap.
    ==============================Once Carr is released LV will be roughly $50 mil UNDER the cap. I think it’s 53 to be exact. Plenty of room the way they construct contracts these days.

  32. I don’t know all the rules on this, but I think the Raiders would probably get a 3rd round compensatory pick if they just let him go. So no reason to trade him unless they can do better than that.

  33. jojomogir says:
    I don’t know all the rules on this, but I think the Raiders would probably get a 3rd round compensatory pick if they just let him go.
    Comp picks are for players lost in free agency. If LV waives him,… they get nothing. Just a $5 million dead cap hit.

  34. bengaljuice says:
    February 9, 2023 at 4:08 pm
    Imagine having a Krystal burger in hand (Dalton) and still wanting to hit the drive thru for a White Castle slider (Carr). But also you’re paying 3-4x more for the slider. Should go well.

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    You know what a supposed star QB in Cincinnati got them?.. They, just like 31 other teams did not win the SB.

  35. jojomogir says:
    February 9, 2023 at 8:48 pm

    I don’t know all the rules on this, but I think the Raiders would probably get a 3rd round compensatory pick if they just let him go. So no reason to trade him unless they can do better than that.

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    This is not true. You get compensatory picks when free agents on your roster sign elsewhere. Carr is not a free agent, he’s under contract to the Raiders. He only leaves the Raiders by the Raiders trading him or releasing him. Either way, no compensatory pick for the Raiders.

  36. If a team wants and needs Derek, they should trade for Derek. If not, they will risk losing him to another team. And, if the Raiders don’t trade him before the 15th, keep him and trade him and his salary later. The Jets, the Panthers and the Saints would bite.

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