What will happen with Lamar Jackson’s contract?

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In two days, the two-week window for application of the franchise tag opens. By the time the clock strikes 4:00 p.m. ET on March 7, the Ravens will either have a long-term deal in place with quarterback Lamar Jackson, or the Ravens will apply the franchise tag.

The only other option would be to let him become an unrestricted free agent, or to use the transition tag. The first of those is impossible, the second is pretty close to that.

Barring a dramatic change in position by the team or the player, a long-term deal isn’t happening. Jackson wants a five-year, fully-guaranteed contract, like the one that the Browns gave to Deshaun Watson. The Ravens don’t want to give Jackson a five-year, fully-guaranteed contract.

So what will happen? Our guess is that the Ravens and Jackson won’t work out a long-term deal before the tag window closes. The question then becomes whether the Ravens will apply the exclusive or non-exclusive version of the tag.

The exclusive version means he wouldn’t be able to negotiate with other teams. He’d play for the Ravens or no one. His franchise tender would be based on the average of the five highest quarterback cap numbers for 2023, determined as of a week or so before the draft.

Currently, that’s $45.4 million. But restructurings between now and April will surely change things, dropping the number lower.

The non-exclusive version of the franchise tag, which would result in a tender of $32.4 million, would give Jackson the ability to talk to other teams that have first-round picks in the next two drafts available. (Jackson, for example, couldn’t contact the Dolphins or the Saints until after the 2023 draft ends, since neither has their original first-round picks.)

If the Ravens opt for the non-exclusive franchise tag, Jackson would then have the ability to seek the five-year, fully-guaranteed contract that he wants from another team that has its original 2023 first-round pick: Falcons, Panthers, Jets, Titans, Seahawks, Commanders (if they change their minds about not wanting a veteran quarterback, or if they simply say they never dreamed the Ravens would use non-exclusive tag on Jackson), whoever.

Given that Jackson doesn’t have an agent (as we’ve said time and again, he needs one), how would it even happen? Would he call the teams? Would the teams reach out to him? (Five years ago, in the weeks preceding the draft, interested teams reportedly had a hard time connecting with him.)

Would there be any actual negotiation, or would he just wait for someone to drop the Deshaun Watson deal into his lap?

That’s where a good agent could make a big difference. The agent can explain to Jackson how and why Watson worked the system to get a five-year, fully-guaranteed contract despite more than 20 pending civil lawsuits, and that these offers just don’t materialize from thin air.

What if the blowback the Browns experienced last year keeps another team from offering Jackson a five-year, fully-guaranteed deal? Yes, it takes only one team to do it. Will any team do it?

A trade could be the end result, for something less than two first-round picks — especially if it’s the Falcons (with the eighth overall pick) or the Panthers (with the ninth) that try to get Jackson. In lieu of waiting for someone who drafts lower in round one signing Jackson to an offer sheet (or having him sign an offer sheet the 2023 draft, putting 2024 and 2025 first-round picks in play), the Ravens could accept a top-10 pick and maybe a second-rounder or a third-rounder in 2023, or perhaps a conditional pick in 2024 based on Jackson’s playing time in 2023.

Our current guess is that, unless the exclusive franchise tender dips below $40 million, the Ravens will be inclined to go the non-exclusive route. That would give them the ability to match any offer sheet Jackson signs, to take a pair of first-round picks if they choose not to match, or to otherwise work out a trade.

And if no one will give Jackson the five-year, fully-guaranteed contract he wants, he’ll have to decide whether to play for the Ravens on a one-year tender and do it all over again in 2024, or to accept the best offer the Ravens will make on a long-term deal.

Yes, it would all go a lot more smoothly if Jackson had an agent. Frankly, if he had an agent, he would have likely signed a long-term deal before the 2022 season even began.

118 responses to “What will happen with Lamar Jackson’s contract?

  1. Raiders have both years 1st round picks and #7 overall. 49ers a team (technically 2 rookie QBs,) that don’t have their 1st rd pick and could have been in the mix

  2. Lamar should not sign a franchise tender until the last moment. Skip training camp, skip everything. Sign it and show up for week1. The Ravens treated him terribly. Trading away Hollywood Brown was an attempt to make Lamar look bad, and sign a lower contract.

  3. Generally, the next QB becomes the highest paid guy. The price has gone up so high that Josh Allen is no longer in the top 5 highest paid. Even Patrick Mahomes’ 10 year contract looks like a bargain.

    Doesn’t matter if we think he’s worthy of whatever he’s asking. He’s going to get it whether it’s the Ravens or another team. And the Ravens should have paid him already. The Ravens would be wise not to wait any longer cause the cost will continue to rise with each new QB contract.

  4. Besides the Jets who are going to jet, don’t really see any teams that would want Lamar for anything near what he wants. Moreover, don’t see anybody besides the Jets giving up 2 1st round picks for a guy that cannot stay healthy and is at best a very average passer for NFL standard. Check should, the Raiders who would also be dumb enough to do it (Miami would be here too but they don’t have the pick). If he would lower his price to around $25 million then the risk is worth it.

  5. These Qbs’ need to understand that if they want to be greedy the team cannot surround them with anyone. Only 1 qb has done that.

  6. If they tag Lamar, he should sit out. The ravens should trade him, because it looks like the team has soured the player, and possibly soured on him as well. The team’s handled this poorly from the get go, with the owner publicly trashing Watson’s deal in an attempt to heavy hand negotiations with Lamar and his mother. They should have made their franchise qb feel welcome, not beholden to them, because now Lamar wants to take his talents to South Beach

  7. If some of the rumors are true it appears Lamar threw a tantrum & ultimately quit on his team near the end of the season. If I’m Baltimore he gets a team friendly offer with incentives and ZERO guarantees other than an initial bonus. And I believe teams that were showing interest in him saw for themselves he has major character flaws & maybe not worth the headache.

  8. This is really a tough situation. Hes a great athlete and running is a big part of his game. Now that Greg Roman is gone it’s also gonna be interesting to see how they run the offense. He wants more money than hes worth and they don’t have an option as good as him. The big challenges whoever wants him doesn’t want to pay him as much as he wants now either. He truly could work his way out of a job.

  9. As a Ravens fan, I’m very conflicted about Lamar. He is the offense, but has come up small at the end of multiple seasons. Not really sure he (or his mother) wants to be in Baltimore. Depending on the picks, and if the team can live with any QB that’s better than Trent Dilfer, DeCosta has to reluctantly consider trading LJ. We go back to the roots and win with the run game and defense.

    The night he was drafted, Jackson in his green jacket, said the Ravens would get a Super Bowl out of him. Seems now the color of the jacket is more important than the Lombardi.

  10. I’m guessing he should get an agent. He probably should have gotten one in the beginning

  11. Top cap hit is Deshaun Watson’s $54.993M and Cleveland is a little over $14M over the cap. It’s in their best interests to restructure all those other contracts by March 15th to get under the cap. Hold onto that cap as long as fiscally possible so B’More chokes on that tag, good and hard.

  12. An agent would probably try to talk some sense into Jackson regarding the fully guaranteed contract, and then Jackson would fire him.

  13. Lamar has worn out his welcome in Baltimore. Time for both parties to move on. Hopefully he wins a title wherever he goes and Baltimore can get a few draft picks in exchange.

  14. Let’s not forget that Hollywood Brown wanted to be traded because he wasn’t getting the passes he wanted. People that blame the ravens for getting rid of him….he wanted to be with a different qb.

  15. Lamar Jackson will never have to think about working a day in his life. He’ll likely retire with well over $200 million in the bank. That’s a lot of money for a kid without an agent. I’d say he’s doing pretty well negotiating for himself.

  16. The Ravens will place the exclusive tag on Lamar, and they will trade him, and here’s why. Steve Bisciotti is a very image conscious owner. He didn’t like LJ’s vulgar exchange with a Ravens fan on Twitter a couple of months ago. He also didn’t like LJ giving out his own medical report on Twitter either. And he really hasn’t liked LJ not playing in any games the last two December’s. The Ravens can and will get a King’s ransom for his services. In doing so they’ll draft a QB high and keep their Super Bowl window open for the next 5 years. Defense, special teams, offense (except for the WR room) in great shape. They’ll address WR, CB, Edge and RB via the draft. Hopefully the rookie QB (CJ Stroud?) Quickly plays up to his draft position.

  17. nite2al says:
    February 19, 2023 at 1:49 pm
    It will be the largest NFL contract ever

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    The Ravens’ front office isn’t that foolish

  18. This is an excellent case of over valuation of oneself.
    Only one QB “right now” truly deserves a fully
    guaranteed contract and he just won a SB.

  19. So he is a running QB that has finished the last 2 seasons hurt and could not play. Yeah … lets give him a 5 year guaranteed contact. That is sarcasm by the way.

  20. Lamar and I have this under control. Sitting back watching the dunno nuttin fans THINK they know what we’re doing. Lamar is gonna be rich and so am I.

  21. Dennis says:
    February 19, 2023 at 3:32 pm
    The Ravens will place the exclusive tag on Lamar, and they will trade him, and here’s why. Steve Bisciotti is a very image conscious owner. He didn’t like LJ’s vulgar exchange with a Ravens fan on Twitter a couple of months ago. He also didn’t like LJ giving out his own medical report on Twitter either. And he really hasn’t liked LJ not playing in any games the last two December’s. The Ravens can and will get a King’s ransom for his services. In doing so they’ll draft a QB high and keep their Super Bowl window open for the next 5 years. Defense, special teams, offense (except for the WR room) in great shape. They’ll address WR, CB, Edge and RB via the draft. Hopefully the rookie QB (CJ Stroud?) Quickly plays up to his draft position

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    So you think the owner that welcomed Ray Rice back with open arms is too image conscious to allow a single vulgar tweet? And you think the offense is in “great shape” despite being historically bad once Lamar Jackson got injured? Wow.

  22. Lamar Jackson will never have to think about working a day in his life. He’ll likely retire with well over $200 million in the bank. That’s a lot of money for a kid without an agent. I’d say he’s doing pretty well negotiating for himself.

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    He will likely retire without a Superbowl title also.

  23. imaginethat says:
    February 19, 2023 at 2:59 pm
    Let’s not forget that Hollywood Brown wanted to be traded because he wasn’t getting the passes he wanted. People that blame the ravens for getting rid of him….he wanted to be with a different qb

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    Hollywood Brown was 10th in NFL in targets that season and isn’t very good but wanted no.1 money. He seems to be regretting that decision.

  24. There are disfunctional teams who would give up a king’s bounty in draft picks and pay him the kind of he wants even after the Watson and Murray debacles. How many of them have the draft picks and cap space? I can only think of the Jets. Anyone else?

  25. Whatever happens in his next contract it will still be way better than the average American salary.

  26. He’s never been easy to work with on the business side going all the way back to before he was drafted by the Ravens. If he won’t play without a guaranteed I say let him sit. Once he’s a free agent, he might be able to find some sucker owner that will fork out another D.Watson deal only to find out it hamstrings the rest of the team and Jackson won’t be able to ever live up to such a contract. Not because he isn’t really-really good, but because he can’t avoid injury with his style. I think he wants the guaranteed deal because he knows his style and he knows he’ll probably get injured. The bigger unknown is how bad will the next injury be? If it ends his playing days, he would still be getting paid and who can blame him for wanting that? The problem is that reality is somewhere in between. The Ravens are probably willing to give him a pretty good chunk of guaranteed money, but probably not the entire contract at 100%. Jackson can’t 100% guarantee he won’t get injured, so why should the Ravens 100% guarantee him all the money.

  27. In a sane world, he would have accepted a Josh Allen-sized contract two years ago. He has one of the highest ceilings in the game but hasn’t won squat in his career.

    Instead, a guy who hasn’t been able to finish two straight seasons wants 5 years guaranteed, and a guy who’s only won one playoff game in 5 years wants to be the highest-paid in the game.

    In that same time span, Mahomes has won 11 playoff games and 2 Super Bowls. Joe Burrow has been to one Super Bowl and won 5 playoff games in 2 years. Josh Allen has won 4 playoff games and has made the playoffs 4 consecutive years. Jalen Hurts has made it to the Super Bowl. Heck, Brock Purdy has twice as many playoff wins as Jackson in a 2-month career.

    Jackson seems to want to skip to the huge payday before winning anything. He’s been passed by his peers and is no longer state of the art. And now he’s in an odd spot because most guys, like all his peers above, play their way into the contract rather than hiding from it.

    An Allen-sized contract with pay tied to playing time is what he has earned. Nothing more.

  28. nhpats2011 says:
    February 19, 2023 at 3:40 pm
    nite2al says:
    February 19, 2023 at 1:49 pm
    It will be the largest NFL contract ever

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    The Ravens’ front office isn’t that foolish

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    Yet, they drafted him with the arrogance of thinking they could bring an NCAA offense into the NFL with him, like so many other teams have tried and failed to do for 2 decades, as they wasted 5 years of the team’s and fan’s time.

    If no one ends up trading for him they’ll have him tagged at 45 million in 2023.

    You sure about your premise? LOL

    The whole problem with the Ravens is them reading their own press clippings with the bizarrely favorable outlook the media always has with them because Harbaugh does a lot of mouth running, which the media likes.

  29. The talking heads keep bringing up Miami but why? Do they honestly think the Dolphins would trade for a QB who has just as much injury history as their own?

  30. 2 things:
    1. His back up is potentially as good.
    2. He does not have an agent.
    Why pay that much and then be unable to put the pieces around him when Huntley would be probably as successful at at a third of the price?

  31. The non-exclusive tag puts the Giants in play at pick #26. With Jackson the Giants might finish in a similar position next year. Even two 1st round picks aren’t enough to keep the Ravens competitive if they are in the last 5 picks of the round. Ravens would be forced to match. They won’t take that risk, so the exclusive tag is the way to go.

  32. Lamar Jackson can help a team to the playoffs, and maybe eventually a Super Bowl. BUT only if he can stay healthy. Over half of his game is running. Take that away and he’s not even a top 10 QB.

  33. gmjoe says:
    February 19, 2023 at 4:13 pm

    Whatever happens in his next contract it will still be way better than the average American salary.

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    And yet he and his fans will nurse an insult for being “disrespected” for the rest of their lives.

  34. People forget most quarterbacks sign three long terms deals on average throughout their careers. Since Lamar is a running QB therefore more injury prone, he’ll probably get to see one long term deal. So pay him and hope you can win a championship in a four or five year span them don’t resign him again. That simple.

  35. I just don’t see Jackson ever getting a team deep into the playoffs or the Super Bowl. If he were good enough to do that, we’d have seen it already. And I don’t anticipate him getting any better, his chance to improve is likely already behind him.

    For that reason alone, why would any team pay a king’s ransom for him? No wonder the Ravens (whom I don’t care for at all) seem to have second thoughts, and justifiably so.

  36. gmjoe says:
    February 19, 2023 at 4:13 pm
    Whatever happens in his next contract it will still be way better than the average American salary.
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    The average American doesn’t have the ability to play quarterback in a 9 billion dollar industry.

  37. kurtlaughlin says:
    February 19, 2023 at 4:50 pm
    gmjoe says:
    February 19, 2023 at 4:13 pm

    Whatever happens in his next contract it will still be way better than the average American salary.

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    And yet he and his fans will nurse an insult for being “disrespected” for the rest of their lives.
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    Lamar has never claimed to be disrespected. Yet he certainly has been and continues to be, especially by the self-appointed experts who continue to insult him as being a running back.

  38. billymutt says:
    February 19, 2023 at 5:06 pm
    I just don’t see Jackson ever getting a team deep into the playoffs or the Super Bowl. If he were good enough to do that, we’d have seen it already. And I don’t anticipate him getting any better, his chance to improve is likely already behind him.
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    It takes more than one player to make a deep playoff run. The Ravens have been unable to do so even with Lamar playing on a rookie contract. They could not do it even when Lamar was the unanimous MVP. If you think that Lamar was the problem you have an agenda outside of the performance on the field.

  39. The Ravens window closed.
    With Jackson being very expensive, and them not winning while he was cheap, they should trade him.

    They should seek to get as much as they can by trading him.
    The acquiring team will give him what he wants, so he should be happy.
    The Ravens will get at least two #1s and probably more.
    They will need a QB plus a bit of roster improvement.

    It will be interesting.

  40. biggs13 says:
    February 19, 2023 at 5:33 pm
    Franchise tags for RBs is currently $13,888,000.
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    Franchise tag for no talent internet posters – $0.

  41. 5 years/50 million per/$250 million, fully guaranteed at signing

    This is the price for the next man up, and Jackson is next.

    Lamar’s a baller; pay the man

  42. The only QB clearly better than Jackson is Mahomes. There is an injury concern but he has never had a major injury that requiredsurgery. Nobody does more with less than Jackson. Others have had more playoff success so far but We have also seen Burrow, Allen, and Hurts struggle mightily without top flight weapons that Jackson has never had. They are all ringless. There is concern for others too. Hurts small sample size/extremely good supporting cast, Allen injury/accuracy/decision making/, Burrow supporting cast/ has had a major injury. Pay the man. With Jackson the Ravens had a top five DVOA offense paying all of their QBS/RBS/WRS the same amount that Josh Allen makes by himself.

  43. O er playing your hand Lamar,especially after this year where you were not superb then got hurt then decided to sit out and not play hurting your teammates. Not a good look for a new employer, he us acting like he is a generational talent who lifts up a team, all he does is drag a team down bu nit being able to read d’s and go through his progressions. What decent wr’s want to see their numbers dip while his rushing numbers go up?? Nobody that’s why the Ravens can’t but a good wr1.

  44. Bearfan54 says:
    February 19, 2023 at 4:30 pm
    2 things:
    1. His back up is potentially as good.
    2. He does not have an agent.
    Why pay that much and then be unable to put the pieces around him when Huntley would be probably as successful at at a third of the price?

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    They were the 12th best scoring offense with Jackson and the worst scoring offense since 2009 with Huntley this year. Not sure where you get this “probably as successful” from because it’s not reality-based.

  45. gibson45 says:
    February 19, 2023 at 5:54 pm
    biggs13 says:
    February 19, 2023 at 5:33 pm
    Franchise tags for RBs is currently $13,888,000.
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    Franchise tag for no talent internet posters – $0.
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    Imagine people being lawyers, doctors, engineers, soldiers, artists, professors… Something other than just being able to run fast.

  46. stilladolphinfan says:
    February 19, 2023 at 6:02 pm
    O er playing your hand Lamar,especially after this year where you were not superb then got hurt then decided to sit out and not play hurting your teammates. Not a good look for a new employer, he us acting like he is a generational talent who lifts up a team, all he does is drag a team down bu nit being able to read d’s and go through his progressions. What decent wr’s want to see their numbers dip while his rushing numbers go up?? Nobody that’s why the Ravens can’t but a good wr1
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    Lamar jackson PFF grade was 5th. Can’t read defenses according to you and yet has the second highest QB rating in obvious passing situations since he entered the league. Hollywood Brown was 10th in targets in 2021 but did nothing with them because he is mediocre. I’m sorry but your opinion does not match reality.

  47. monarch76 says:
    February 19, 2023 at 12:58 pm
    Lamar should not sign a franchise tender until the last moment. Skip training camp, skip everything. Sign it and show up for week1. The Ravens treated him terribly. Trading away Hollywood Brown was an attempt to make Lamar look bad, and sign a lower contract.

    Yes, yes – that’s brilliant! Show up for week 1 totally unprepared, stink the joint out for at least the first half of the season, get “injured” and miss the last few games of the season and then you’ll be set to score big in free agency. Nothing more those teams want than a selfish, entitled diva who thinks he’s above the team.

  48. TheTruth says:
    February 19, 2023 at 6:13 pm
    gibson45 says:
    February 19, 2023 at 5:54 pm
    biggs13 says:
    February 19, 2023 at 5:33 pm
    Franchise tags for RBs is currently $13,888,000.
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    Franchise tag for no talent internet posters – $0.
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    Imagine people being lawyers, doctors, engineers, soldiers, artists, professors… Something other than just being able to run fast.
    _________________

    The people in all of those professions have talent, something that someone trying to make a lame point about a unanimous MVP quarterback being running back does not have.

  49. mikecrabtreeschain says:
    February 19, 2023 at 5:59 pm
    The only QB clearly better than Jackson is Mahomes. There is an injury concern but he has never had a major injury that required surgery. Nobody does more with less than Jackson. Others have had more playoff success so far but We have also seen Burrow, Allen, and Hurts struggle mightily without top flight weapons that Jackson has never had. They are all ringless. There is concern for others too. Hurts small sample size/extremely good supporting cast, Allen injury/accuracy/decision making/, Burrow supporting cast/ has had a major injury. Pay the man. With Jackson the Ravens had a top five DVOA offense paying all of their QBS/RBS/WRS the same amount that Josh Allen makes by himself.

    Say what?? If I’m starting a team right now I’d rather have Burrow, Allen or Hurts than Jackson. All have much more playoff success, all have kept their egos in check and all can throw the ball better than Jackson.
    I’d also rather have Tua, Mac Jones, Kenny Pickett, Trevor Lawrence, Herbert, Dak, Daniel Jones, Jared Goff, Justin Fields, Purdy, Geno Smith and Matt Stafford. I’m not necessarily saying all of these QBs have more talent than Jackson, but they’ll play their butts off and show up at the end of the season.
    Someone might overpay for Jackson, but they’ll never win anything with him. Childish attitude, apparently a quitter and is now injury prone.

  50. He might get the number he wants but he won’t get a fully guaranteed contract.

    I can guarantee him that.

  51. If they’re smart,… they peddle Jackson. This is when having an agent is worth the expense. The player doesn’t hear the negativity from the team side in negotiating a deal.
    Lamar thinks he knows better than an agent,… not to mention he doesn’t want to pay an agent. smh,…..

  52. gibson45 says:
    February 19, 2023 at 5:22 pm
    billymutt says:
    February 19, 2023 at 5:06 pm
    I just don’t see Jackson ever getting a team deep into the playoffs or the Super Bowl. If he were good enough to do that, we’d have seen it already. And I don’t anticipate him getting any better, his chance to improve is likely already behind him.
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    It takes more than one player to make a deep playoff run. The Ravens have been unable to do so even with Lamar playing on a rookie contract. They could not do it even when Lamar was the unanimous MVP. If you think that Lamar was the problem you have an agenda outside of the performance on the field.
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    No need to get defensive. And from your answers to some of the posts in this article it appears that you are the one having an agenda. I don’t, other than being an reasonably intelligent football fan.

    I, and other posters, are simply stating what we’re seeing with our own eyes. You are, of course, welcome to disagree with our opinion.

  53. billymutt says:
    February 19, 2023 at 7:05 pm
    gibson45 says:
    February 19, 2023 at 5:22 pm
    billymutt says:
    February 19, 2023 at 5:06 pm
    I just don’t see Jackson ever getting a team deep into the playoffs or the Super Bowl. If he were good enough to do that, we’d have seen it already. And I don’t anticipate him getting any better, his chance to improve is likely already behind him.
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    It takes more than one player to make a deep playoff run. The Ravens have been unable to do so even with Lamar playing on a rookie contract. They could not do it even when Lamar was the unanimous MVP. If you think that Lamar was the problem you have an agenda outside of the performance on the field.
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    No need to get defensive. And from your answers to some of the posts in this article it appears that you are the one having an agenda. I don’t, other than being an reasonably intelligent football fan.

    I, and other posters, are simply stating what we’re seeing with our own eyes. You are, of course, welcome to disagree with our opinion.
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    If you trust these other posters eyes that’s on you. I would think that you would want to speak on your own behalf and not endorse their opinions.

  54. watchoutnfl says:
    February 19, 2023 at 6:33 pm
    mikecrabtreeschain says:
    February 19, 2023 at 5:59 pm
    The only QB clearly better than Jackson is Mahomes. There is an injury concern but he has never had a major injury that required surgery. Nobody does more with less than Jackson. Others have had more playoff success so far but We have also seen Burrow, Allen, and Hurts struggle mightily without top flight weapons that Jackson has never had. They are all ringless. There is concern for others too. Hurts small sample size/extremely good supporting cast, Allen injury/accuracy/decision making/, Burrow supporting cast/ has had a major injury. Pay the man. With Jackson the Ravens had a top five DVOA offense paying all of their QBS/RBS/WRS the same amount that Josh Allen makes by himself.

    Say what?? If I’m starting a team right now I’d rather have Burrow, Allen or Hurts than Jackson. All have much more playoff success, all have kept their egos in check and all can throw the ball better than Jackson.
    I’d also rather have Tua, Mac Jones, Kenny Pickett, Trevor Lawrence, Herbert, Dak, Daniel Jones, Jared Goff, Justin Fields, Purdy, Geno Smith and Matt Stafford. I’m not necessarily saying all of these QBs have more talent than Jackson, but they’ll play their butts off and show up at the end of the season.
    Someone might overpay for Jackson, but they’ll never win anything with him. Childish attitude, apparently a quitter and is now injury prone

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    Lamar jackson has a higher winning percentage than every single QB that you named.

  55. nhpats2011 says:
    February 19, 2023 at 3:40 pm

    nite2al says:
    February 19, 2023 at 1:49 pm
    It will be the largest NFL contract ever

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    The Ravens’ front office isn’t that foolish
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    Who said I was talking about the Ravens?

  56. Whatever happens in his next contract it will still be way better than the average American salary.

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    And yet he and his fans will nurse an insult for being “disrespected” for the rest of their lives.
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    Lamar has never claimed to be disrespected.
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    Give it time, my friend.

  57. PFT land always has it wrong when it comes to Jackson. They ignore wins, stats and guy who consistently keeps his team in first place. The hate was there long before the injuries. Coaches, players and TV analysts all talk about Lamar as a good to great player and a valuable commodity. But within PFT land you would think he was a QB who throw a bunch of picks, can’t throw from the packet and lost a lot of games.

  58. Two things: people are sick of the Ravens fanboys saying he doesn’t have enough weapons. Second, some foolish team, probably Baltimore, will pay him a lot of money & he will never sniff a Super Bowl.

  59. c2excellence says:
    February 19, 2023 at 2:10 pm

    Good luck getting that fully guaranteed contract. The Browns already have a QB.

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    Minnesota likes those 100% guarantees for their QB and Cousins only has year left. You know, in case he gets tagged and is looking for next year.

  60. If Lamar is smart, he isn’t going to look for a trade, he’ll wait for free agency to explore those options.

    He’ll squeeze the Ravens for a huge 1 year contract or else he’ll just wait for week one to sign his tender like Walter Jones did.

    The tag doesn’t get a player into camp, only a contract does that and the Ravens desperately want their quarterback to learn their new OC’s system before the season starts.

    If the Ravens can’t get Lamar into camp they might as well fold their tents up and go home this year, so north of $50 million is not out of the question.

    And then next year the tag gets too expensive to use so Lamar gets to free agency.

  61. nfldivas says:
    February 19, 2023 at 1:07 pm

    Besides the Jets who are going to jet, don’t really see any teams that would want Lamar for anything near what he wants. Moreover, don’t see anybody besides the Jets giving up 2 1st round picks for a guy that cannot stay healthy and is at best a very average passer for NFL standard. Check should, the Raiders who would also be dumb enough to do it (Miami would be here too but they don’t have the pick). If he would lower his price to around $25 million then the risk is worth it.
    _________________

    Are you kidding me? When it comes to Lamar, you guys drop all sense of reality. QB is king in the NFL and Lamar has proven his worth. You don’t think multiple teams out there would be willing to give him a 200 mil mega deal rather than being a perennial loser year after year. Arthur would easily give Lamar a Blank check to sign to get him in Atlanta.

  62. mikecrabtreeschain says:
    February 19, 2023 at 7:28 pm

    watchoutnfl says:
    February 19, 2023 at 6:33 pm
    Say what?? If I’m starting a team right now I’d rather have Burrow, Allen or Hurts than Jackson. I’d also rather have Tua, Mac Jones, Kenny Pickett, Trevor Lawrence, Herbert, Dak, Daniel Jones, Jared Goff, Justin Fields, Purdy, Geno Smith and Matt Stafford.

    =========================================

    Lamar jackson has a higher winning percentage than every single QB that you named.

    ===

    Sure – in the regular season. But he’s been a dud in the playoffs. How is it that the team is good enough to have such a good regular-season record, yet falls flat in the postseason? One is because of him, and one isn’t?

    It’s a broken record at this point. Fans don’t want to see wins that don’t lead anywhere. Cousins, Prescott, Jackson, Murray, these are guys that look the part but don’t deliver when it counts. Rodgers won a SB but has been in this category lately. Herbert is on the path to being stuck in this category.

  63. He’s only won one playoff game in his entire career.
    Win something first, then they’ll talk money.

  64. Die hard Ravens fan here, i like Lamar but i like the team better. Trade him for the right haul, a big a haul as possible. Do it soon before the draft if possible. Lets not forget that he appears to be injury prone. May be time to move on as unpopular as it seems. Go Ravens!

  65. Pretty sure Purdy has the highest winning percentage. From a very small sample, but true nonetheless.

  66. It has to be a long term deal or he’s traded. A one year contract will loom as a distraction.

    If you design an offense and draft players to suit his unique skill set and playing style, you’ll have to blow it up if he leaves.

    Is he great enough to justify that level of commitment? If healthy, yes he is, but your back up has to be a similar style of player. Those aren’t easy to find.

    The market would dictate that he will get something close to what he wants and there’s enough dumb rich owners with bad QB situations to make that happen.

  67. radar773 says:
    February 19, 2023 at 4:39 pm

    Lamar Jackson can help a team to the playoffs, and maybe eventually a Super Bowl. BUT only if he can stay healthy. Over half of his game is running. Take that away and he’s not even a top 10 QB.
    __________________

    Well, duh. The running aspect is what makes him Lamar. Running plus his underrated QB ability probably puts him in the the top 10. But I’m not smart like you guys in grading QBs. I’m all about the team as a whole. Look at Allen, great QB IMO. But he can’t do it by himself. Burrow, much like Brady always had, a great supporting cast, and in your eyes, he’s a great QB. Give him Lamar’s receivers and Allen’s running game and see how many rabbits he pulls out of a hat. When Hurts finally got good receivers and an improved running game, his game took off. So, when you grade QBs, try to look at what he has around him and not be so biased.

  68. Has anyone else noticed that he’s gotten worse every year?
    And that he’s become injury prone?
    The rest of the AFC North is praying that the Ravens give him a cap-crushing, fully-guaranteed deal…

  69. nite2al says:
    February 19, 2023 at 8:40 pm
    nfldivas says:
    February 19, 2023 at 1:07 pm

    Besides the Jets who are going to jet, don’t really see any teams that would want Lamar for anything near what he wants. Moreover, don’t see anybody besides the Jets giving up 2 1st round picks for a guy that cannot stay healthy and is at best a very average passer for NFL standard. Check should, the Raiders who would also be dumb enough to do it (Miami would be here too but they don’t have the pick). If he would lower his price to around $25 million then the risk is worth it.
    _________________

    Are you kidding me? When it comes to Lamar, you guys drop all sense of reality. QB is king in the NFL and Lamar has proven his worth

    ———

    He has proven that he can garner one postseason win in 5 years. That’s not good

  70. Non exclusive tag him and let others make offers. Take the two number one picks and move on if anyone actually pays him anything near top 5 money.

  71. QBs need to be able to pass the ball. Lamar has thrown for over 3000 yards once in his career. The moment he first got hurt his value dropped. That’s what happens to running QBs that haven’t improved as passers. He’s damaged goods and should have cashed in a year ago. Doing all of this without an agent isn’t very smart.

  72. Most people don’t even do there own taxes….yet Lamar things he can negotiate his own contract. He deserves whatever comes his way….

  73. It’s simple.

    1. Jackson wants a fully guaranteed contract, and he’s right to think that. Watson does not have an MVP, has not won anything in his career, and has a dubious personal life. He got 230 million guaranteed. If I coworker of yours got a ridiculous raise, and you thought you were better than him, when the time came you would ask for the same thing.

    2. Baltimore is not giving him a fully guaranteed contract. They are a better run organization and are not as desperate as the Browns were when they delt for Watson. The market does not bear out his contract demands, and they are under no obligation to give him what he wants.

    3. Baltimore will not let him go. Whatever you may think of him, he’s a top 10 QB in the league. It’s difficult to get one of them, and when you have one, you don’t let him go. The only situation they would trade him would be if they are offered a deal where they can draft one of young QB’s in the draft. This feels unlikely, but I suppose possible (Indy if Levis falls to them?)

    4. Baltimore will franchise him this year, and next year if they have to. It’s not ideal but the control is in their court. If there is no way to replace him, and he won’t accept a market level deal, this is the only recourse.

    The only question Jackson should be asking is if he can get the contract he wants on the free market. He won’t. I suppose having an agent would help him understand this, but who knows? If that’s what he feels he is worth, he’s entitled to ask for it.

  74. Perhaps Jackson doesn’t have an agent because every agent he’s talked to tried to tell him to let the guaranteed money demand go.

  75. line him up in front of a barn and see if he can hit the side of it for the contract…he is not accurate, doesnt read defenses well, has not completed a full season and quit on his team last year because he did not want to get hurt and have it affect his contract. Trade him and get a QB from this class.

  76. The shift in Lamar’s behavior has been astounding. The fist couple of years in Baltimore, he was such a polite, driven young man with a once in a generation talent. His teammates rallied around and loved his style. The fans loved him and supported him. Although the Ravens knew he was not perfect and needed to improve as a passer, He they still wanted him to sign him for the long term. He did not want to negotiate for an extension and blew the the front office off because he wanted to win a Superbowl to make himself more valuable. He felt like he needed to win on to be in the same conversation as Patrick Mahomes. Then, the Browns gave Watson the fully guaranteed contract. Things changed after that. Lamar who does not have a professional agent wanted nothing less than Watson’s contract. The Browns made a huge mistake and The Ravens will not follow them in their destructive path. The Ravens will not do that and jeopardize the future of the team if Lamar gets hurt. Plus, there is no way they can sign other stars and unfortunately have to see some really good players walk because they have no cap space.
    Lamar got greedy. Some of the worst free advice on TV from former players telling him not to sign anything less than Watson’s contract got to his head. He is not smart enough to figure out how the salary cap works. He is not smart enough because he does not have a professional, capable agent and he is not smart enough because he messed up with him immature antics. The Ravens will not put up with that nonsense. If Lamar gets off his high horse and decides to take a reasonable, but very lucrative offer that will not handicap the team, the Ravens will sign him. If he acts like a petulant child who did not get his way, the Ravens will tag and trade him and move on. No-one is above the tea. No-one. Even Lamar.

  77. patsfan4lifedynasty says:
    February 20, 2023 at 6:49 am

    Pay the man
    ————-

    You – and the others making this statement – are assuming something without any actual information to back it up. You are assuming you know the contract value LJ is seeking. You don’t. I don’t believe he has ever given a number or range of numbers that he would expect.

    That’s what makes these statements ridiculous. For all we know, LJ believes he is entitled to far more than the current market value, something that is completely outrageous. Is he asking for $60 million/year? $100 million? To be named King of Baltimore? The right to appoint justices to the Supreme Court? A personal time machine? Given his unwillingness to retain an agent, the chances that his demands are unrealistic are much higher than even the most ardent Ravens/LJ would tolerate.

  78. nhpats2011 says:
    February 20, 2023 at 8:09 am
    nite2al says:
    February 19, 2023 at 8:40 pm
    nfldivas says:
    February 19, 2023 at 1:07 pm

    Besides the Jets who are going to jet, don’t really see any teams that would want Lamar for anything near what he wants. Moreover, don’t see anybody besides the Jets giving up 2 1st round picks for a guy that cannot stay healthy and is at best a very average passer for NFL standard. Check should, the Raiders who would also be dumb enough to do it (Miami would be here too but they don’t have the pick). If he would lower his price to around $25 million then the risk is worth it.
    _________________

    Are you kidding me? When it comes to Lamar, you guys drop all sense of reality. QB is king in the NFL and Lamar has proven his worth

    ———

    He has proven that he can garner one postseason win in 5 years. That’s not good
    _______________

    No, the Ravens have proven that they cannot field or coach a team that can win more than playoff game even with Lamar playing at a unanimous MVP level. No one player can carry a team, even someone as talented as Lamar. The playoff failures are on Harbaugh and the GM, not Lamar.

  79. He should get a long term deal, just not a 5yr fully guaranteed deal that he wants. How can any team do that when its highly likely he wont even finish the first year uninjured. Thats always a risk no matter the player but based on the last two years Lamars a very high risk for injury. The Ravens cant give him a 5 year fully guaranteed and why doesnt he just hire a damn agent.

  80. gibson45 says:
    February 20, 2023 at 10:48 am
    nhpats2011 says:
    February 20, 2023 at 8:09 am
    nite2al says:
    February 19, 2023 at 8:40 pm
    nfldivas says:
    February 19, 2023 at 1:07 pm

    Besides the Jets who are going to jet, don’t really see any teams that would want Lamar for anything near what he wants. Moreover, don’t see anybody besides the Jets giving up 2 1st round picks for a guy that cannot stay healthy and is at best a very average passer for NFL standard. Check should, the Raiders who would also be dumb enough to do it (Miami would be here too but they don’t have the pick). If he would lower his price to around $25 million then the risk is worth it.
    _________________

    Are you kidding me? When it comes to Lamar, you guys drop all sense of reality. QB is king in the NFL and Lamar has proven his worth

    ———

    He has proven that he can garner one postseason win in 5 years. That’s not good
    _______________

    No, the Ravens have proven that they cannot field or coach a team that can win more than playoff game even with Lamar playing at a unanimous MVP level. No one player can carry a team, even someone as talented as Lamar. The playoff failures are on Harbaugh and the GM, not Lamar.

    ———-
    Where is the evidence of this? Harbaugh and the GM already took a team to and win a SB without Lamar…..so they are definitely capable. Lamar has not proven the same.

  81. Jackson has only won one playoff game his entire career.
    Win something first, then ask for money.

  82. nhpats2011 says:
    February 20, 2023 at 11:23 am
    gibson45 says:
    February 20, 2023 at 10:48 am
    nhpats2011 says:
    February 20, 2023 at 8:09 am
    nite2al says:
    February 19, 2023 at 8:40 pm
    nfldivas says:
    February 19, 2023 at 1:07 pm

    Besides the Jets who are going to jet, don’t really see any teams that would want Lamar for anything near what he wants. Moreover, don’t see anybody besides the Jets giving up 2 1st round picks for a guy that cannot stay healthy and is at best a very average passer for NFL standard. Check should, the Raiders who would also be dumb enough to do it (Miami would be here too but they don’t have the pick). If he would lower his price to around $25 million then the risk is worth it.
    _________________

    Are you kidding me? When it comes to Lamar, you guys drop all sense of reality. QB is king in the NFL and Lamar has proven his worth

    ———

    He has proven that he can garner one postseason win in 5 years. That’s not good
    _______________

    No, the Ravens have proven that they cannot field or coach a team that can win more than playoff game even with Lamar playing at a unanimous MVP level. No one player can carry a team, even someone as talented as Lamar. The playoff failures are on Harbaugh and the GM, not Lamar.

    ———-
    Where is the evidence of this? Harbaugh and the GM already took a team to and win a SB without Lamar…..so they are definitely capable. Lamar has not proven the same.
    ________________

    The evidence is that it has not happened. You continue to ignore that Harbaugh and the GM could not make it happen during Lamar’s MVP season. 2013 was 10 years ago. They could not make it happen during the five years prior to Lamar either.

  83. The way Watson worked getting a 5 year fully guaranteed contract is he found the dumbest most desperate owner in the NFL who knows nothing about running an NFL team (and it shows) which is why the Browns are the Browns. The only thing the Watson contract is going to do for the Browns is keep them in the bottom 3rd of the league for the next 5 seasons.

    Now onto Jackson, he isn’t getting a fully guaranteed contract from anyone no matter who his agent is, period, end of conversation. The Raven ARE going to FT him and if he ‘holds out’ till the last moment and then looks bad in 2023 he’s only going to cost himself more money in the future.

    His talent is somewhat unique (more dangerous as a runner than a passer) but not very durable. A serious good hit (or multiples ala Tua) and his playing days could be over. So playing under the tag (x3) may make him good money but at the end of it he may be used up. Also he isn’t a ‘plus n play’ QB as you need a fairly unique offense around him (unlike say tons of pocket passers) so a team can’t just grab him and automatically be better.

    In effect he needs the Ravens and the Ravens need him (since they are designed around his skill set).

  84. One franchise tag year sets you up for the rest of your life after taxes. Too bad most are so bad with money.

  85. I’ll be glad when his contract situation is settled. Then we can all move on to the screaming and crying about the terms of said contract and meltdowns that will go on for at least two years.

  86. According to reports, he turned down a really good long-term offer. He’d better hope he doesn’t get hurt or his play doesn’t slip. Making your only goal to be the highest paid is a dangerous game.

  87. kurtlaughlin says:
    February 20, 2023 at 10:41 am
    patsfan4lifedynasty says:
    February 20, 2023 at 6:49 am

    Pay the man
    ————-

    You – and the others making this statement – are assuming something without any actual information to back it up. You are assuming you know the contract value LJ is seeking. You don’t. I don’t believe he has ever given a number or range of numbers that he would expect.

    That’s what makes these statements ridiculous. For all we know, LJ believes he is entitled to far more than the current market value, something that is completely outrageous. Is he asking for $60 million/year? $100 million? To be named King of Baltimore? The right to appoint justices to the Supreme Court? A personal time machine? Given his unwillingness to retain an agent, the chances that his demands are unrealistic are much higher than even the most ardent Ravens/LJ would tolerate.
    _______________

    As you admit, Lamar has not made his request public. Therefore, you have no idea what Lamar is asking for.

  88. kurtlaughlin says:
    February 20, 2023 at 10:41 am
    patsfan4lifedynasty says:
    February 20, 2023 at 6:49 am

    Pay the man
    ————-

    You – and the others making this statement – are assuming something without any actual information to back it up. You are assuming you know the contract value LJ is seeking. You don’t. I don’t believe he has ever given a number or range of numbers that he would expect.

    That’s what makes these statements ridiculous. For all we know, LJ believes he is entitled to far more than the current market value, something that is completely outrageous. Is he asking for $60 million/year? $100 million? To be named King of Baltimore? The right to appoint justices to the Supreme Court? A personal time machine? Given his unwillingness to retain an agent, the chances that his demands are unrealistic are much higher than even the most ardent Ravens/LJ would tolerate.
    ________________

    Also, I wonder why you believe that Lamar is incapable of making a reasonable request. Actually I don’t, I know exactly why. It is patently obvious that you think a Black man lacks the ability to make business decisions.

  89. bob1959 says:
    February 20, 2023 at 11:51 am
    His talent is somewhat unique (more dangerous as a runner than a passer) but not very durable. A serious good hit (or multiples ala Tua) and his playing days could be over. So playing under the tag (x3) may make him good money but at the end of it he may be used up. Also he isn’t a ‘plus n play’ QB as you need a fairly unique offense around him (unlike say tons of pocket passers) so a team can’t just grab him and automatically be better.
    __________

    I am interested to know what a ‘plus n play’ QB is, never heard that term previously. And I am sure Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers will be interested to know that you think all pocket passers are exactly the same.

  90. gibson45 says:
    February 20, 2023 at 11:36 am
    nhpats2011 says:
    February 20, 2023 at 11:23 am
    gibson45 says:
    February 20, 2023 at 10:48 am
    nhpats2011 says:
    February 20, 2023 at 8:09 am
    nite2al says:
    February 19, 2023 at 8:40 pm
    nfldivas says:
    February 19, 2023 at 1:07 pm

    Besides the Jets who are going to jet, don’t really see any teams that would want Lamar for anything near what he wants. Moreover, don’t see anybody besides the Jets giving up 2 1st round picks for a guy that cannot stay healthy and is at best a very average passer for NFL standard. Check should, the Raiders who would also be dumb enough to do it (Miami would be here too but they don’t have the pick). If he would lower his price to around $25 million then the risk is worth it.
    _________________

    Are you kidding me? When it comes to Lamar, you guys drop all sense of reality. QB is king in the NFL and Lamar has proven his worth

    ———

    He has proven that he can garner one postseason win in 5 years. That’s not good
    _______________

    No, the Ravens have proven that they cannot field or coach a team that can win more than playoff game even with Lamar playing at a unanimous MVP level. No one player can carry a team, even someone as talented as Lamar. The playoff failures are on Harbaugh and the GM, not Lamar.

    ———-
    Where is the evidence of this? Harbaugh and the GM already took a team to and win a SB without Lamar…..so they are definitely capable. Lamar has not proven the same.
    ________________

    The evidence is that it has not happened. You continue to ignore that Harbaugh and the GM could not make it happen during Lamar’s MVP season. 2013 was 10 years ago. They could not make it happen during the five years prior to Lamar either

    ———

    The common denominator is Lamar. He can not win games against playoff caliber teams. Again, Harbaugh had already proven he can take a team to a SB and win. With Joe Flacco. Lamar has proven nothing other than he can rack up good running stats against mediocre teams.. And that he can’t win against playoff caliber defenses.

  91. nhpats2011 says:
    February 20, 2023 at 11:23 am
    gibson45 says:
    February 20, 2023 at 10:48 am
    nhpats2011 says:
    February 20, 2023 at 8:09 am
    nite2al says:
    February 19, 2023 at 8:40 pm
    nfldivas says:
    February 19, 2023 at 1:07 pm

    Besides the Jets who are going to jet, don’t really see any teams that would want Lamar for anything near what he wants. Moreover, don’t see anybody besides the Jets giving up 2 1st round picks for a guy that cannot stay healthy and is at best a very average passer for NFL standard. Check should, the Raiders who would also be dumb enough to do it (Miami would be here too but they don’t have the pick). If he would lower his price to around $25 million then the risk is worth it.
    _________________

    Are you kidding me? When it comes to Lamar, you guys drop all sense of reality. QB is king in the NFL and Lamar has proven his worth

    ———

    He has proven that he can garner one postseason win in 5 years. That’s not good
    _______________

    No, the Ravens have proven that they cannot field or coach a team that can win more than playoff game even with Lamar playing at a unanimous MVP level. No one player can carry a team, even someone as talented as Lamar. The playoff failures are on Harbaugh and the GM, not Lamar.

    ———-
    Where is the evidence of this? Harbaugh and the GM already took a team to and win a SB without Lamar…..so they are definitely capable. Lamar has not proven the same.

    ===============================================

    The GM that took them to two superbowl with and without Harbaugh retired champ. Jackson was his last first round. That GM drafted 8 pro bowl players during his last 4 seasons. The current GM has Drafted 1 a punt returner, in his first 4 seasons. These things are clearly related along with failing to secure the elite QB that he inherited.

  92. jsm08 says:
    February 20, 2023 at 9:02 am
    QBs need to be able to pass the ball. Lamar has thrown for over 3000 yards once in his career. The moment he first got hurt his value dropped. That’s what happens to running QBs that haven’t improved as passers. He’s damaged goods and should have cashed in a year ago. Doing all of this without an agent isn’t very smart.

    ==========================================

    It’s not 1976. Judging a QB on passing yards is how you give Kirk Cousins a fully guaranteed contract. There is not one advanced statistics out there that suggests Jackson in a below average passer.

  93. gibson45 says:
    February 20, 2023 at 1:47 pm

    Also, I wonder why you believe that Lamar is incapable of making a reasonable request. Actually I don’t, I know exactly why. It is patently obvious that you think a Black man lacks the ability to make business decisions.

    —————

    That’s quite a leap on your part.

    What I think is that professional football players, of any color,

    A. Have been coddled most of their life and have little experience dealing with anything outside of playing their game.
    B. Only rarely take advantage of the free education they are provided to learn about things more complex than what it takes to play their game.
    C. Make all sorts of decisions off the field that call into question their maturity, judgement, and intelligence, or even just how the world works.
    D. Demonstrate financial ignorance and make bad money decisions often enough that it has become a cliche, and has driven NFL to make specific and repeated efforts to help them, which are frequently rebuffed. (Much like the NFL program that provides players a car service, at their request, avoid a DUI.)

    In other words, I think LJ is just another dumb jock who is in over his head but is too wrapped up the competition with the Ravens to know what a reasonable offer is. If he had an agent, I would say that his demands are almost certainly reasonable. The fact that doesn’t have an agent leaves the door open that the problem isn’t with the Ravens but with him. It might not be, but you can’t rule it out, either.

  94. kevpft says:
    February 19, 2023 at 9:06 pm
    mikecrabtreeschain says:
    February 19, 2023 at 7:28 pm

    watchoutnfl says:
    February 19, 2023 at 6:33 pm
    Say what?? If I’m starting a team right now I’d rather have Burrow, Allen or Hurts than Jackson. I’d also rather have Tua, Mac Jones, Kenny Pickett, Trevor Lawrence, Herbert, Dak, Daniel Jones, Jared Goff, Justin Fields, Purdy, Geno Smith and Matt Stafford.

    =========================================

    Lamar jackson has a higher winning percentage than every single QB that you named.

    ===

    Sure – in the regular season. But he’s been a dud in the playoffs. How is it that the team is good enough to have such a good regular-season record, yet falls flat in the postseason? One is because of him, and one isn’t?

    It’s a broken record at this point. Fans don’t want to see wins that don’t lead anywhere. Cousins, Prescott, Jackson, Murray, these are guys that look the part but don’t deliver when it counts. Rodgers won a SB but has been in this category lately. Herbert is on the path to being stuck in this category.

    ============================================

    That’s just a ridiculous excuse. Brock Purdy has a better playoff record than Josh Allen. Who are you choosing? One is a huge sample size and the other is not. Fans and the media were ready to crown Josh Allen for losing in the divisional round. We just saw last season how much previous playoff success does not matter as Stafford won a superbowl without ever winning a season playoff game in 14 seasons. Jackson has more playoff wins at 25 than Peyton Manning, Rodgers and Brees combined. I guess Mark Sanchez and Collin Kaepernick are hall of famers in your book. I’ll take my chances on the guy who wins 70% of his games with a bunch of guys who could not start for half the teams in the league. You can have guys like Nick Foles.

  95. As a fan of another AFC team, I personally hope the Ravens sign Lamar to a huge contract. It’s the best thing they could do for my team.

  96. grant35 says:
    February 20, 2023 at 4:40 pm
    You mean Nick Foles, Super Bowl champion? I’ll take him over Mr Candy Arm, Lamar

    ==========================================
    Yes Superbowl champ and Multiple time failed starting QB Nick Foles. I guess you would take him over ringless Burrow and Allen too. I’ll take the guys who can play over the guys who got lucky.

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