Former Chiefs teammates rip LeSean McCoy, defend Eric Bieniemy

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Former Chiefs running back LeSean McCoy said Eric Bieniemy had nothing to do with the team’s successful passing game during Bieniemy’s five years as the Chiefs offensive coordinator. Several of McCoy’s former teammates took issue with that.

Jamaal Charles, the Chiefs’ all-time leading rusher, addressed McCoy directly on Twitter.

“I have to disagree with you Shady,” Charles wrote. “Bieniemy Coach me 4 years I learned so many thing for EB and I still keep in contact with him a great husband and father. He deserves to be a head coach.”

Other former Chiefs teammates weren’t so polite.

“Man you fucked up with it,” former Chiefs safety Tyrann Mathieu said in a tweet directed to McCoy.

Former Chiefs guard Jeff Allen was among those who retweeted Mathieu’s tweet, while former Chiefs safety Ron Parker also took issue with McCoy.

Tyreek Hill, who played four years in the offense coordinated by Bieniemy and is now in Miami, said the difference of opinion between McCoy and Bieniemy all started with Bieniemy instructing McCoy to hold the ball tighter so he wouldn’t fumble.

“Shady mad Eb told him tuck that ball,” Hill wrote.

There may be something to that: McCoy was the Chiefs’ lead back for much of his one season in Kansas City, but after losing two costly fumbles in two Chiefs losses, his playing time declined significantly, and he was inactive for the Chiefs’ Super Bowl win that year. Things didn’t end well for McCoy in Bieniemy’s offense.

87 responses to “Former Chiefs teammates rip LeSean McCoy, defend Eric Bieniemy

  1. None of them disagreed with McCoy that Bienemy had nothing to do with the passing game, something Rivera believes he’ll do in Washington.

  2. Beiniemy was a glorified RB coach. None of Shady”s former teammates are denying that. Upset maybe that he told the truth, Jamal Charles saying he learned a lot from him and that Bieniemy “deserves” to be the head guy.. isn’t a denial of the truth.

  3. That McCoy is still crying about his time in KC to anyone who will listen is just silly. Had he put as much effort into taking care of the ball as he has complaining he probably would have played in that Super Bowl. Dude needs to look in a mirror instead of blaming EB or Andy.

  4. As The saying goes there’s 2 sides to every story…… Who Would’ve EVER Thunk it, Apparently “Shady” was REALLY being Shady!

  5. The issue is very simple. EB coaches hard…and I mean HARD. WHEN shady came to KC, he was cooked and had nothing left. EB was his position coach. Shady was inactive most of the time and often clashed with EB. They nearly came to blows on a couple of occasions. Shady as a bet felt as if he deserved more respect from EB but it never came. Now Shady has a platform and is trashing him. Andy even reiterates this. Now, I’m not saying EB has orchestrated every pass play, but if you think that after being next to Andy for many years and on staff with Nagy, Pederson that EB has learned nothing about the passing game you’re mistaken. Nagy and Pederson both took some of Andy with them and became succesfull.

  6. This sounds like a case of sour grapes by Shady towards Bieniemy. I’m a Packers fan, so really doesn’t my matter to me, but just seems to be the case here.

  7. After reading these Twitter comments my first thought was how universities are failing at teaching basic grammar.

  8. McCoy is no different than many posters who speak from personal grievance, spite and a lack of objectivity. They try to hide that truth with a pretense that the targets of their animosity deserve scorn and belittlement. McCoy has a history of calling out his own and his opponents’ coaches. He gratuitously throws shade at Belichick so Bieniemy is in good company. Glad to see PFT exposing McCoy in this thread.

  9. The Chiefs made him inactive for a reason, and he seems to still have hurt feelings about it. They won the Super Bowl without him, so he wasn’t that important.

  10. So lets see if all the people who claimed McCoys words were “credible evidence” because he was on the team now change their minds because MORE people who were on rbe team and who were on the team LONGER have come out to dispute his words. No credible player has come out to corroborate McCoys claims.

    Time will tell whether Bienemy will find success in Washington. He may succeed and be may fail. But those claiming that Bienemy is destined to fail based on McCoys words are seriously reaching IMO.

  11. Shady has always said things for attention and didn’t like being coached hard. Of course nobody should have taken anything he said seriously but a lot of people wanted it to be true so bad that they ran with it. It has been widely reported Bieniemy came up with the key halftime adjustment to win the superbowl. Good OC who deserves a shot to be a coach.

  12. Lets see, An O-lineman, a defensive player and a Running back (EB has always been the running backs coach) says Lesean is wrong. Considering nobody actually denied what he said about being involved in the passing game and just disagreed with him in general, not sure how that says much. The history and present looks to be agreeing with Lesean mostly. Why are ex and current WR’snot coming out to say anything? or QB’s that have been on the team as backups, or tight ends and anyone who actually would know?

  13. Hill will say anything about people he likes. He spent all last offseason talking about how Tua was the most accurate QB he had ever played with. So anything he says after that is questionable.

  14. So much for the people who were saying that no players were crediting Bieniemy. So much for the people who said that McCoy was being truthful.

  15. Great write up. We knew that there was more to this statement and sure enough, we were right. Can’t fool us Shady.

  16. gtmcneill says:
    February 21, 2023 at 12:42 pm
    But it has been telling that none of the KC players have prominently and loudly banged the drum for Bieniemy. Maybe the reason for their collective silence indicates that they do not want to lose him
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    This comment did not age very well.

  17. Lots of people were taking Shadys word as gospel yesterday but Chiefs fans knew he was bitter. I’m not saying EB is gonna be a great coach I’m just saying Shady is mad bro.

  18. Nothing they said refutes the very precise claim that McCoy made…. “he wasn’t involved in the passing game”

  19. Notice no one refuted what McCoy said. Sounds like he was still the RB coach with the title of OC while Reid called the plays.

  20. As I have said before, NFL and CFB coaches and players sole purpose is to be content creators/subject for media pens and typists.

  21. Shady isn’t just named that because he was elusive. He has always done people like that when either he or the individual leaves. There was the infamous $.20 tip incident in Philadelphia. Look at how he handled it when Chip Kelly traded him. Chip didn’t handle it right; he admitted it and tried to reach out to him multiple times afterwards. His response was “I don’t have S to say to Chip.” Classless.

  22. The biggest Red Flag with Bienemy as a HC is that unlike previous OCs with Andy Reid, Bienemy doesn’t call the Offensive plays. He did call them, but that duty was taken away from him. Although Andy Reid always says he thinks EB would make a great HC, he never gave play calling duties back to him. If HC is EB’s goal he needed to move on from Andy Reid.
    If EB goes to the Commanders and does a good job as OC with play design and calling duties he will become a legit HC candidate.

  23. lawrence stacy says:
    February 21, 2023 at 1:27 pm
    Everyone trashing McCoy for just saying the truth. He has been there, you have not. And what is wrong with him saying it? He was asked and told the truth instead of keeping the line of he is great and deserves the chance. EB can now prove it. I have a feeling he will not, but you never know
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    The truth? Yeah, right. I wonder what you think now.

  24. Nobody is denying his claims though. Not one persons has come it from an x’ sand o’s perspective to put this to bed. There is a reason why Bienemy was getting passed over for head coaching jobs and it wasn’t because he was black. Teams had real reservations about what he did as coordinator. Now that it has come out he had little to nothing to do with the playbook and passing game people are jumping all over shady. Yeah shady didn’t leave on the best terms but he was being transparent about his experience there and what he observed. I don’t monos how you can give the guy a hard time about it unless he were lying. I don’t hear anyone calling shady a liar.

  25. Eric Bieniemy became offensive coordinator in 2018, two years after Jamaal Charles left KC. OT Jeff Allen started 4 games with Bieniemy while he was OC. Tyrann Mathieu and Ron Parker were DBs and the latter played one year while Bieniemy was OC, so not sure how they’re able to offer much insight about his prowess as a coordinator.
    And Tyreek Hill probably got it right about McCoy’s mindset, but didn’t exactly dispute what he said.
    The good thing about this melodrama is that it’s about to end this fall. Either Bieniemy does a good job in Washington or he’s revealed to be nothing more a name on Andy Reid’s coaching tree.

  26. 1-McCoy has been whining about coaching and organizations misusing him since long before his time in KC. 2-Why does no one accept that maybe even though he didn’t call the plays, he may have picked up enough to run his own offense? Zack Taylor didn’t do anything in LA but coach mediocre QBs, McVay did it all. But obviously he learned some things and has run a pretty solid offense once getting the talent in Cincinnati. Same thing can happen with Bieniemy, but it will be up to Rivera and management to get some talent there. We are only going to know if EB can coach if he gets talent on the offensive side.

  27. McCoy hadn’t been there in 4 years how does he know would Eric bienemy is doing? If you’re worth anything as a coach you can pretty much coach any position I don’t know what he’s so worked up over

  28. Eric Bieniemy had very little to do with the offensive success of KC. Very little. His relationship with Mahomes wasn’t particularly great. He is essentially a running backs coach. He will be terrible in WAS

  29. malcomreynolds says:
    February 22, 2023 at 8:30 am
    Eric Bieniemy became offensive coordinator in 2018, two years after Jamaal Charles left KC. OT Jeff Allen started 4 games with Bieniemy while he was OC. Tyrann Mathieu and Ron Parker were DBs and the latter played one year while Bieniemy was OC, so not sure how they’re able to offer much insight about his prowess as a coordinator.
    And Tyreek Hill probably got it right about McCoy’s mindset, but didn’t exactly dispute what he said.
    The good thing about this melodrama is that it’s about to end this fall. Either Bieniemy does a good job in Washington or he’s revealed to be nothing more a name on Andy Reid’s coaching tree.
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    Charles may have been gone when EB became
    OC but he was under him in KC when he was the running backs coach . All those guys you mentioned did work with EB , he was a position coach for most of Allen’s time . Parker and Mathieu may be dbs but they did play there while Eb was a position coach and OC – you make it sound like Jamaal didn’t know the guy at all …

  30. He’s not wrong tho. How many coordinators have been put on a pedestal by the media only to fail when they are without their HOF head coach? (Reid, Belichick, etc.)

  31. terrellpryorstattooartist says:
    February 22, 2023 at 4:58 am

    Guys are defending EB but none of them are disputing mccoys claims.

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    Who stays on topic nowadays. You just try to think of something the guy ever said or did wrong and throw that in there. It’s called deflecting.

  32. He said zero things wrong. He never called the plays why are folks so triggered by the truth? We all are glad that this narrative is closed now. Good luck with your new job Eric!!

  33. Shady being shady, again. Reducing his playing time is one of the things Bieniemy definitely got right.

  34. Nagy and Pederson both took some of Andy with them and became succesfull.

    What success did Nagy have, his first 6 games with the Bears? Teams figured out his offense after a few weeks and he never adjusted. He stunk a deserved to be fired a year before he was. I fall in the non-believer camp on Bieniemy but I give him a lot of credit for moving on to prove people like me wrong. If he goes to Washington and has great success, I’ll be happy to admit I was wrong but I need to see it to believe it.

  35. Bienemy doesn’t need anyone to defend him; he got the job and has a clean slate. If he succeeds, McCoy’s comments won’t be proven wrong, but will be seen as irrelevant. If EB fails, well, you how that’s going to turn out.

  36. The backlash for not falling in line and supporting the victim-narrative is always hilarious to me. Go along with the pack, or be cannibalized.

  37. The players’ reactions to the original assertion are symptomatic of the world we live in: label and name call without addressing the underlying issues. No one contradicted the claim that EB didn’t have input on the passing game. A wrong way to circle the wagon.

  38. Few things here… 1; McCoy was never the lead back in KC, let’s not embellish a story. 2; The media desperately tried to sell us that EB was calling the plays. If that’s the case, why isn’t the same media clamoring that KC needs an OC. You know; cause it was EB who made that offense tick…. 3; Has it occurred to anyone that KC wanted EB gone? They only gave him a 1 year deal. If he doesn’t get signed elsewhere, KC once again has to keep him by default, just to appease the wolves. Of course Reid, Mahomes and others are going to say he’s good. Watch the SB, Reid is calling the plays, he speaks into the headpiece, Pat calls the play, they’re off and going. There’s no time between Andy talking, then going to EB, then to Pat. Now they might have given EB a Fischer-Price look alike head piece, to make him feel included, but in no shape or form was EB calling plays.

  39. Not all OCs call plays. KC obviously valued EB or he wouldn’t have been there for 5 years. Saying he had no impact on the offense is ridiculous.

  40. McCoy said that Bieniemy had nothing to do with the passing game. The quotes from Hill, Mathieu and Charles did not dispute that.

    Its like if I say a restaurant’s food is bad, and someone defends them by saying the ambience nice. Okay, but what about the food?

  41. Gilgameshvshumbaba says:
    February 22, 2023 at 9:14 am

    Charles may have been gone when EB became
    OC but he was under him in KC when he was the running backs coach . All those guys you mentioned did work with EB , he was a position coach for most of Allen’s time . Parker and Mathieu may be dbs but they did play there while Eb was a position coach and OC – you make it sound like Jamaal didn’t know the guy at all …

    Which suggests Bieniemy is a better running back coach than offensive coordinator. None of the guys who have spoken up worked with him as an OC nor rebutted McCoy’s statement that he had no input on the passing game.
    Two things can be correct at the same time.
    McCoy could be still be bitter about Bieniemy’s coaching.
    McCoy could still be right that Bieniemy had little to do with the Chiefs passing game.

  42. When did kids stop being taught if you can’t say, (or tweet) something nice about somebody then don’t. We really need to get back to that, our society would be much better off.

  43. On that show SPEAK ,Acho talks McCoy up like he’s the second coming of Jim Brown ,introducing him as as a 2 X Super Bowl Champion and McCoy just sucks it in never corrects him and says I contributed nothing to those Championships , tells me a lot about he character of McCoy !

  44. As a Denver fan, I have nothing in this fight. But I am glad EB gets a chance to prove he is good. Denver thought of hiring him, but something always seemed to come up ( His past at college etc) Now he get a chance to show he deserves a chance so good for him & Andy. As to McCoy he is always bitter. And to the fans claiming they “know” things about his time in KC give me a break.

  45. malcomreynolds says:
    February 22, 2023 at 10:00 am
    Gilgameshvshumbaba says:
    February 22, 2023 at 9:14 am

    Charles may have been gone when EB became
    OC but he was under him in KC when he was the running backs coach . All those guys you mentioned did work with EB , he was a position coach for most of Allen’s time . Parker and Mathieu may be dbs but they did play there while Eb was a position coach and OC – you make it sound like Jamaal didn’t know the guy at all …

    Which suggests Bieniemy is a better running back coach than offensive coordinator. None of the guys who have spoken up worked with him as an OC nor rebutted McCoy’s statement that he had no input on the passing game.
    Two things can be correct at the same time.
    McCoy could be still be bitter about Bieniemy’s coaching.
    McCoy could still be right that Bieniemy had little to do with the Chiefs passing game

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    Andy Reid has spoken about Bienemy’s acumen as an Offensive coordinator many times. Immediately credited him for the halftime adjustment that won the superbowl. You should not need to hear a word from anyone else. If Shady McCoy had said the complete opposite that Bieniemy is the next Lombardi/Belichick/Walsh would you take his word as gospel? Of course not.

  46. Andy Reid has spoken about Bienemy’s acumen as an Offensive coordinator many times. Immediately credited him for the halftime adjustment that won the superbowl. You should not need to hear a word from anyone else.

    Reid also said Nagy was ‘ the most prepared to be a head coach ‘ of all the assistants he had that moved on to head coaching jobs and as a Bears fan, I gotta tell you, Reid’s word doesn’t mean much to me. Mahomes and Kelce had glowing endorsements for Nagy as well and we all know how that played out. Canned response, PR speak just like the after game press conferences – they say all the right things. As I said earlier, I hope Bieniemy is successful in Washington, I respect that he isn’t whining and is setting out to prove he can do this without Reid and company, good for him. Necessary move if he wants to become a head coach.

  47. I don’t understand why some people are getting off topic here. What Shady did as a player in KC is irrelevant in this conversation. People want to jump all over Mccoy because he chose to share his experience while he was with the Chiefs and it doesn’t fit the media narrative why Bienemy isn’t getting hired. Not one person from the Chiefs organization is disputing anything Mccoy is saying so that tells me that he is being honest until proven otherwise. All of these players and talking heads jumping on him for what, telling the truth? The dude was a placeholder who they wanted out thats why he only got a one year extension because he once again blew all of his interviews he got last year. Bienemy has had plenty of opportunities to be an NFL coach he just hasn’t been able to convert on any of them. Now he’s going to get the chance to do what normal OC’s do. If he is successful he will get looks at HC. Not a Shady fan at all, but there is NOTHING wrong with what he said, I just feel bad because the mob will be after him for going against the grain. If anything this just adds to Mccoy’s credibility.

  48. Way too funny. The chiefs and ex chiefs aren’t happy that he isn’t pretending to act like EB is a genius. Listen to Charles. He wasn’t even there when he was OC. Those guys are defending “their” guy and that is it.

  49. I just wonder why these people wake up so angry everyday. Everyone else said he’s a good coach. The one guy who the offensive stars say had an axe to grind because he was told to stop fumbling the ball and who has displayed questionable character in a number of other incidents is the one knocking him and as usual, the low life people attach themselves to his narrative. I would never want terrible people to make any points for me. Even if you thought he was a bad coach, I’d wait it out until somebody else spoke and said the same. The fact that he’s the only one out of hundreds of players speaks volumes though.

  50. The fact that they are all supporting him and not shady says a lot. Shady ended his career not really doing much, and he sounds bitter about something. Sounds like a grouchy old man.
    My money’s on Mr. Bieniemy succeeding at this new challenge and Mr. McCoy moving on to complaining about someone else.

  51. It’s interesting that so many on here REALLY want Bienemy to fail. I mean, I don’t know whether he will succeed or fail, but I’m certainly willing to wait until the upcoming football season to find out.

    But for many, it’s just really, really, really important for them to convince all of us that Bienemy will fail, before the season has even begun.

    I wonder why this is? That is not a rhetorical question. I truly have no idea why people aren’t willing to just wait until the fall and see what happens.

  52. Even if EB was a glorified RB coach or even the QB coach, he’s been promoted now. That means you will be in charge of things or do things that you’ve never done before. That is what a promotion is. It’s okay if he was not heavily involved in the passing game. The QB coach who is promoted to OC probably was not heavily involved in the run game or blocking scheme. Now he has to learn and perform, like every OC that ever has been promoted to HC.

  53. Context matters when thinking about this. Andy said Nagy was well prepared to be an HC, but does anyone look at the bears and see a consistent model of stability? I know part of the coach’s job is to instill said stability, but there are times when the deck is stacked too hard against you. I’m not defending him, but you can’t think he was overjoyed knowing he was walking into a place that traded up to take Trubisky of all people. While EB isn’t going to be working for a great owner (or he may be, depending on how the Snyder thing plays out), he at least has a solid support system in Rivera to lean on to support whatever offensive decisions he makes.

  54. SMH. So easy for some to agree with “Shady” because it fits the narrative. No clue how Bienemy will do with Washington and a subpar QB situation. What i do know is that there wasn’t as much outrage about Matt Nagy getting the Bears job when Andy Reid turned over playcalling to him for the final 5 games of the 2017 season (his only season as THE offensive coordinator – previously co-OC with Brad Childress). When introduced in Philly Doug Pederson said that he called plays in the second half of games in the preceding season.

    EB, after 5 years, likely has called just as many plays as his predecessors who didn’t have to face nearly the scrutiny he does. Certain coaches, e.g. Reid, Payton, etc will never yield complete control to their OC’s. Couple that with guys like Andy Reid (KC), John Harbaugh (Bal) and Dan Campbell (Det) who NEVER held an NFL coordinator role, we can kill the play calling narrative because it isn’t relevant when we don’t want it to be. I could probably throw in a number of HC’s who had a coordinator position for only 1 year also but the point is obvious.

    If you don’t like EB that’s fine, if you don’t believe that he will be a good OC or HC that’s fine too BUT there is no factual evidence that his role or lack thereof in KC is a good justification for him not getting a chance. His own boss, and currently one of the best play-callers in the league, was only a QB Coach in GB before his first HC gig in Philly. So just call it what it is and let’s end the debate.

  55. Josh Morgan says:
    February 22, 2023 at 11:05 am
    Not a Shady fan at all, but there is NOTHING wrong with what he said, I just feel bad because the mob will be after him for going against the grain. If anything this just adds to Mccoy’s credibility.
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    You have to have credibility before you can add to it.

  56. Even if shady is right, this sounds like a case of players backing up someone they think deserves a shot. Not surprising at all guys are stepping up for EB. Idk what shady thought he was accomplishing by opening his mouth about him. Not a good look, Mr McCoy, not a good look at all

  57. Why are ex and current WR’s not coming out to say anything? or QB’s that have been on the team as backups, or tight ends and anyone who actually would know
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    Because most people don’t want to be involved with drama. McCoy is drama. It’s often a no win situation. Did EB say anything back? Of course not. Most people know that McCoy is a ME guy and a whiner. I only read the headline because I was never getting those 3 minutes back. As far as EB, time will tell. It’s completely obvious he wasn’t THE OC or he wouldn’t have left.

  58. Shady is just sore. He got two Super Bowl rings for free riding the bench. His analysis on the show is useless and very biased. The other three are much more insightful.

  59. Well there you have it. Shady had an axe to grind and wouldn’t you know it………….he fumbled it!

  60. If he had nothing to do with passing plays, maybe Shady can explain why there’s a video of the sidelines from Superbowl 54 where Mahomes is asking Bieniemy if they can run “Wasp” (the best play of the game)

  61. Mahomes and Henne both said that it was Bieniemy who gave them the Jacksonville pass play that they used twice to win the Super Bowl. But, we’d rather believe something else. And I ask again, where’s the evidence that Matt Nagy, who had an inferior resume when hired as a head coach, did more as their coordinator?

  62. mattwft30 says:
    February 22, 2023 at 7:17 am
    Nothing they said refutes the very precise claim that McCoy made…. “he wasn’t involved in the passing game”
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    The point is that Shady isn’t credible. At all. Full stop.

  63. For those who keep on saying “they aren’t refuting what he’s saying”. McCoy played one more season with the Chiefs than I did and I never played in the NFL let alone for the Chiefs. They’re pointing out that his opinion is sour grapes since obviously from their perspective why would he act like he knows anything about an offense that he was barely in and wasn’t that good at when he was there? He’s the kid who failed in school and blames the teacher even though the rest of the class got A’s. In other words what he’s saying could be true but he doesn’t have the credibility to say it and be believed which all of them are confirming. Tyreeks comment pretty much translates to “that’s because you were the one he always had to yell at”. Hill has the most credibility here being that he thrived in that offense and is no longer with the team so he had no reason to chime in unless McCoys take was incredibly inaccurate which clearly it is.

  64. He simply deserves a chance to fail at HC given his time and experience as the official OC of a 2 time Super Bowl winning team.

  65. carliejd says:
    February 22, 2023 at 2:13 pm
    Mahomes and Henne both said that it was Bieniemy who gave them the Jacksonville pass play that they used twice to win the Super Bowl. But, we’d rather believe something else. And I ask again, where’s the evidence that Matt Nagy, who had an inferior resume when hired as a head coach, did more as their coordinator?

    I don’t think anyone is saying Nagy did more when he was in KC. Just like Bieniemy though, he was more like an honorary OC. The point is that, as Nagy already proved, just being around Reid is not enough, you have to show you can do it on your own and he is taking the steps to prove that. I’m rooting for him. I don’t have anything against Bieniemy, just this mind set that because Reid says you’re going to be a success as a head coach elsewhere, it’s automatic that you know what you’re doing.

  66. He was inactive for the super bowl after the Chiefs claimed him off waivers. Sounds bitter. Melvin Gordon you’re next up.

  67. Not taking anything away from Bienemy, he may be a fine OC…but Mahomes makes everyone look like a genius. When he goes to Washington, I don’t expect their QB (whoever that ends up being) to have the same success. It doesn’t make Beienemy a bad coach….but the QB is the key. How many OC’s with great Qb’s have flamed out at their next job?

  68. Translation: Shady said out loud on the air what everybody already knew, but it was mean spirited so his former players are rushing to his defense as they should. Some things are better left unsaid.

  69. grizzly says:
    February 22, 2023 at 10:59 am
    Andy Reid has spoken about Bienemy’s acumen as an Offensive coordinator many times. Immediately credited him for the halftime adjustment that won the superbowl. You should not need to hear a word from anyone else.

    Reid also said Nagy was ‘ the most prepared to be a head coach ‘ of all the assistants he had that moved on to head coaching jobs and as a Bears fan, I gotta tell you, Reid’s word doesn’t mean much to me. Mahomes and Kelce had glowing endorsements for Nagy as well and we all know how that played out. Canned response, PR speak just like the after game press conferences – they say all the right things. As I said earlier, I hope Bieniemy is successful in Washington, I respect that he isn’t whining and is setting out to prove he can do this without Reid and company, good for him. Necessary move if he wants to become a head coach

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    So Andy Reid doesn’t know coaching because Nagy didn’t win a superbowl with a terrible organization? How is shady more credible even though he has an axe to grind? This makes no sense.

  70. bufatex says:
    February 22, 2023 at 3:30 pm
    Not taking anything away from Bienemy, he may be a fine OC…but Mahomes makes everyone look like a genius. When he goes to Washington, I don’t expect their QB (whoever that ends up being) to have the same success. It doesn’t make Beienemy a bad coach….but the QB is the key. How many OC’s with great Qb’s have flamed out at their next job?

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    He did not make Kingsbury look like a genius and got a headcoaching job anyway. The white guys get headcoaching opportunities to “flame out” the black guys don’t get that opportunity.

  71. Come on people his name is SHADY for a reason. None of the other former or current players have nothing negative to say about EB. Must be something SHADY is not saying as the REAL reason he is hating on EB.

  72. While there are 2 sides to every story, I definitely think McCoy has had experience and is entitled to his opinion. I think many teams believe the same thing or EB would likely be a head coach. Hell EB wasn’t even allowed to call plays for the team he was OC for…. That should tell you something as it has all the teams who passed on him as a HC. That’s ok as now he gets to move on from Andy Reid’s shadow and show whether or not he should have consideration as a HC.

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