Report: Russell Wilson tried to get Pete Carroll, John Schneider fired before he was traded

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Shortly before he was traded to Denver, Russell Wilson lost a power struggle in Seattle.

That’s the word from TheAthletic.com, which reports today that Wilson asked Seahawks ownership to fire both head coach Pete Carroll and General Manager John Schneider in February of 2022.

Weeks after that, the Seahawks traded Wilson to the Broncos. Carroll and Schneider remain in their jobs a year later.

The report also says that Wilson wanted the Seahawks to hire Sean Payton as their head coach if they fired Carroll. Payton is now the coach of the Broncos, so Wilson got his wish a year later.

The report cites unnamed sources, and Wilson’s camp denies it. A lawyer for Wilson wrote a letter to TheAthletic.com that called the story of Wilson trying to get Carroll and Schneider fired “entirely fabricated.”

On the record, the Seahawks have not commented on the report.

80 responses to “Report: Russell Wilson tried to get Pete Carroll, John Schneider fired before he was traded

  1. Elway did the same thing with Dan Reeves. but Elway succeeded. They sent Reeves packing and hired Mike Shanahan.

    course, russel had other options, stop signing contracts and move on as a free agent

  2. Juicy stuff. It’s not very often that I would believe a QB truly thinks he has the power or clout to get a coach and GM fired, but if there ever was a QB to believe that, Russell Wilson would be it, with team 3 stinking up the building and more bathrooms than touchdowns and all of that.

    He has major career repair to undertake. Wilson could not look much worse and the Seahawks and Carroll couldn’t seem better.

  3. Wilson was an EMPLOYEE, he should not have any power whatsoever. If he wants authority, then he can retire and become a coach, GM, or owner.

  4. In no way is Russell Wilson likable, but this feels like one of those stories that would have gotten out last year if true. I do think that not enough has been said about how much work needs to be done for Russell Wilson to win over the locker room. That is the only way there will be any success in Denver.

  5. Who hasn’t at some point or another wanted to see their boss burned? That being said, Wilson is a baby.

  6. Seattle blew that one. You don’t move a first ballot HOF QB like Russell Wilson.

    Just look at the direction of the teams.

  7. People will claim it’s clickbait or fabrication. The problem though – it’s believable because nothing I’ve ever seen from RW would make me immediately react with “no, not RW, he’s not that guy” – problem is, he comes across 100% as “that guy”.

    I mean – does this seem possible? Absolutely – given the people involved.

    YMMV

  8. Wilson IS still bitter about that boneheaded play call in his 2nd SUPER BOWL that cheated the Seahawks another ring. He’ll I’m still annoyed that Lynch didn’t punch it in …and I’m not even a Seahawks fan…

  9. Holy smokes i didnt think Russ was really this bad but I do believe this report. Good Luck Donks you’re not going to be winning for a long time now.

  10. Rodgers did the same thing to McCarthy. Only Rodgers won that battle.

    And the Broncos wanted Rodgers or Wilson. Weird.

    Good luck with that.

  11. As was mentioned, he’s not the first player to believe that he’s got the power to get a coach and/or GM fired, nor the first to try. He may well find that after a career with Carroll that he is ill-suited to working with Payton.

  12. This is what happens when QBs have ‘input’ into management decisions. It’s fascinating that it never works the other way around, management has no ‘input’ whatsoever into the lives of QBs off the field. Players cannot have it both ways.

  13. Would this be enough to keep Wilson out of the HoF?

    Like the diva/bad teamate thing?

    Remember they kept Terrell Owens out a year (but not permanently).

  14. They way he played this year did he play the same hand but this time got Denver to agree?

  15. I’m not sure he used those exact terms, but there is a sack of grains of salted truth in this report. He denies that he attempted to do this, but says nothing about his camp. Years from now, a tell all book will explain much more detailed information about this situation. I’m not sure who writes one first? Pete or Russ

  16. No wonder his performance has suffered so much – he’s busy watching his back for knives and such…

  17. True or not, and I would guess that Sean Payton’s agent is the leak, this is a silly story.

  18. Are these the same anonymous sources that reported Denver was for sure going to hire Harbaugh, and then Ryans?

  19. winninaintsinnin says:
    February 24, 2023 at 8:33 am
    Seattle blew that one. You don’t move a first ballot HOF QB like Russell Wilson.

    Just look at the direction of the teams.

    “First ballot HOF QB Like Russell Wilson.” Says who?

  20. Its all about jealousy. When Russel and many other QB’s in the league saw how Tom Brady was able to come into Tampa and influence every aspect team management they felt cheated that their influence was way lower or nonexistent. Hence some of the scenarios that developed between QB’s and their teams in the last several years.

  21. Not saying its true but if it is true, who cares? If they wanted to trade him and he wanted to trade them what exactly is the problem?

  22. Guys who demand their own office in the facility don’t get the benefit of the doubt as being team players.

  23. Not surprising really. The guy got his own office at the Denver facility so I dont find it surprising he felt he had the clout(or should have had) to have Carroll removed. Its really not a big deal at this point other than making Wilson look worse than he already does.

  24. Rodgers did the same thing to McCarthy. Only Rodgers won that battle.
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    If the Packers had an owner, McCarthy would have never lasted as long as he did.

    They should have left McCarthy at the airport after the meltdown in the 2014 NFCC Game.

  25. Mike Sando has had ties to the Seahawks for as long as I remember.

    I don’t think he would put his name on this if there wasn’t truth to it.

  26. Not only do I believe this story, but I had the feeling all last year that Wilson deliberately played like crap to get Hackett fired so that Payton would have his opening. Good luck with this diva, Denver.

  27. Russell’s current tag line – let’s hide.
    I don’t know if the story is true or not, but it’s certainly believable. Russ hasn’t done himself any favors acting like such an entitled, self-absorbed, fake-smiling douce.
    Bronco fans must be absolutely thrilled at this news, if only because it reminds them they have little hope until Russ is gone. I’m not even sure Payton can put the shine back on Wilson. If he does, his legacy will be cast in concrete.

  28. Wilson thinks he won Seattle’s Super Bowl all by himself disregarding the Legion of Boom and Lynch.

  29. casualnflfan says:
    February 24, 2023 at 9:02 am
    Would this be enough to keep Wilson out of the HoF?

    ***********

    Personally, I’d have a real hard time putting a QB in the HOF that never even got a single MVP vote.

    I get other positions get in with out that but QB? No. Sorry, if they don’t even think you were one of the best players in a given year, how can your career be one of the best the SPORT had ever seen?

  30. transpo says:
    February 24, 2023 at 12:16 pm

    Hate to be contrary, but the MVP voting by select Sports writers isn’t in anyway tied to someone being voted into the HOF. He is a top tier QB with numerous records and achievements during a great career. HOF career? Yes

  31. chawk12thman says:
    February 24, 2023 at 1:11 pm

    Hate to be contrary, but the MVP voting by select Sports writers isn’t in anyway tied to someone being voted into the HOF. He is a top tier QB with numerous records and achievements during a great career. HOF career? Yes

    ***********

    Never said Sports Writers put him into HOF. I am saying tho if the industry didn’t find you to be one of the best, not even the best but a single MVP vote – best in a given year – you aren’t HOF worthy. Hall of “very good” maybe but he’s no where near one of the best QB’s to have played the game. You either need to be the best player over a period of time or, somehow the entire league needs to have changed how they play to defend your paradigm shift in the position.

    RW – is not that guy.

  32. The Pete Carroll-led Seahawks are full of drama – you could write a book about SB 49 and collapse of the LOB, and one about Russell Wilson

  33. Y’all can think that all you want. While coaching is undoubtedly majorly important in the NFL, talent reigns supreme. If Wilson were that good, he would have won that battle but the Seahawks ownership was smart enough to know Carroll + the haul for RW is much more valuable than Wilson & a new coach.

    dryzzt23 says:
    February 24, 2023 at 8:22 am
    Wilson was an EMPLOYEE, he should not have any power whatsoever. If he wants authority, then he can retire and become a coach, GM, or owner.

  34. HOF career? Yes
    ==========

    Not at this point. He still has some work to do.

    If he had won that 2nd Super Bowl, sure.

  35. Wilson’s completion percentage was 64.6% vs Elway 56.9%.
    He threw for 308 TDs vs 300 for Elway.
    His 5.9% TD percentage was better than Elway’s 4.1%.
    He’s had 98 ints vs Elway 226.
    He’s thrown for 234.6 ypg vs 220 for Elway.
    He has a career QB rating of 101.7 vs Elway’s 79.9.

    Yes first ballot HOF QB without a doubt.

    Bronco Nation, let’s ride!

  36. .. also, regarding the HOF argument;

    Wilson played with the #1 defense 4 years in a row 2012-2015
    2013 and 2014, they were #1 in points AND yards
    2013 they were #1 in points, yards AND turnovers

    That was a historic run. Especially considering this era of cheap easy offense.

    Pretty easy to argue Russ underachieved.

  37. I believe Richard Sherman. The locker room knows authenticity and the locker room did like Russ.

  38. the bottom line, ‘cuz Stone Cold says:
    February 24, 2023 at 1:54 pm
    HOF career? Yes
    ==========

    Not at this point. He still has some work to do.

    If he had won that 2nd Super Bowl, sure
    =========================/=======

    Dude Kurt Warner is in the Hall of fame and Wilson’s numbers are better across the board. And had 4 other hall of fame players on the roster in St. Louis and another one in Arizona. Wilson was doing it with one of the worst receiving cores in the league most or his career and Lynch was washed after 2014. Pete Carroll was and is a well below. 500 NFL coach without Wilson. You don’t have to think they guy but let’s not pretend that he was not great. You can make a pretty good argument he overachieved with the lack of talent on offense around him.

  39. After Pete Carroll got a new contract in the middle of the 2020 season, Russell began to find a way out of Seattle. In 2021, he quit scrambling, changed the plays called, tried to emulate Drew Brees’ style, and frustrated Carroll to the point where Pete would no longer defend Wilson’s play. At the time I thought it was very odd that the Seahawks would give Carroll a new contract in the middle of the season, but now I realize they were making an unequivocal statement.

  40. Maybe it is fabricated, but it also sounds exactly like something Wilson would do. All the noise he was making about being consulted with player and coaching moves/aquisitions is enough to paint a picture. He went to his coach and didn’t get what he wanted, so he huffed and puffed going to the owner and made his case. In his mind he probably thinks his presence alone fills the stadiums, so royalty should get whatever royalty wants. He went to Denver, got his own office, his own training staff, and suddenly Russel ‘Midas’ Wilson is the QB of a punchless offense making no friends along the way. Hmmm… If he wants to be the boss, he should just buy an NFL team.

  41. Dude Kurt Warner is in the Hall of fame and Wilson’s numbers are better across the board.
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    Kurt Warner should not be in the NFL HOF

  42. You can sure tell why posters on here are just that – posters (posers?) and not management for a NFL Team.

    Look around the league.

    You have Mahomes, you have Wilson, maybe you have Hurts and Burrow.

    That’s it.

    Top tier.

    Bronco Nation; Let’s Ride!

  43. As a Seahawks fan, while Wilson always was the cheesy press conference guy, he was a team guy. And wanted the best for the team. Along the way, he changed and wanted what was best for Russell and wanted individual awards and personal “legacy”. Me thinks this happened around the time he got together with Ciara and thought he was a red carpet rockstar.

  44. Look around the league.

    You have Mahomes, you have Wilson, maybe you have Hurts and Burrow.
    ==========

    Josh Allen.. Justin Herbert.. Trevor Lawrence came on strong this year.. if Russ is in the conversation still, than so is Rodgers.

    At the top, the League is as strong as it was in the 80s… problem is, there isn’t much after the upper teirs.

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