Dan Campbell: Lions grade players off tape, not running 40s at the Combine in pajamas

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Lions coach Dan Campbell isn’t a big fan of the workouts that take place at the Scouting Combine.

Campbell said today that while he likes coming to the Combine so that he can meet some of the players in person, he considers the on-field drills to be a meaningless television show.

“I guess there is somewhat of a spectacle,” Campbell said. “To me it’s more, at this point, just to be able to sit with these guys. They get the medical during the week, but for us to be able to do these interviews is to me the biggest part of all this. It’s not even the working out portion. To me, you grade them off the tape, you don’t grade off somebody out here in pajamas, running the 40 with no defender around.”

Campbell said he likes in-person meetings with players, trying to get a feel for their competitiveness and passion for football.

“The meetings are great, the meetings are really pivotal. All the other stuff, whatever,” Campbell said.

That seems to be a growing sentiment at the Combine, where plenty of players are declining to participate in on-field drills, and plenty of coaches are deciding they have better things to do than attend.

45 responses to “Dan Campbell: Lions grade players off tape, not running 40s at the Combine in pajamas

  1. The more I see of him and hear from him the more I like him. He seems like possibly the only person that could change a team’s culture from trash to winner. It is a shame Washington did not get him.

  2. One of the NFL employees runs the 40 yard dash in a suit and tie, that’s enough to tell you what a joke the Combine is.

  3. That makes sense. If you want to find out how good a football player is, watch him play football. Just like judging a chef. Would you taste the food, or time him to see how fast he can chop onions?

  4. Maybe players are tired of coaches and GM’s treating them as property and not people……

  5. EDIT: Maybe players are tired of coaches and GM’s treating them as cattle and not human beings……

  6. I have NEVER heard a real GM grade someone at the combine. The only people that even talk about “rising draft stock” are sportswriters.

    In fact, NO ONE knows what a team’s draft board looks like because it’s so highly guarded – so HOW does a sportswriter even know if a player “rose” or “fell” at all? THEY DON’T.

    The combine is only used to make sure a player can do the basics. It’s NEVER been used to judge a player and no team GM has ever said they did.

    This is just MANUFACTURED controversy.

  7. Even the most bitter division hater has to at least have some love for Dan Campbell 😂

  8. Love MCDC all the drills are on tape. So he is right he will watch tape they don’t have to be present for the drills. Trust me they will watch all tape on potential high draft picks game tape and the underwear Olympics

  9. To really put it over the top, I’d love to see him serve horse knees at the interviews

  10. A really poor showing does tell you how committed the players are to being competitive & ready for training camp. Using the combine to eliminate or rank the players who all might be somewhat equal “on tape” seems important.

  11. Has he watched the tapes of the Lions past 70 years of history yet?

    #Lionsstillsuck

  12. These types of takes are so dumb because that’s never been what the combine is. Only fans and people who don’t know what they’re talking about put that much weight into the combine. You just want the combine measurements to back up what you see on the tape and if they don’t you go back and reevaluate and if someone stands out that maybe you didn’t watch film on you go back and figure out why you didn’t spot him before.

  13. Please. Give me a break–he wants to know the 40 times of every player Detroit is interested in.

  14. If Dan ran the Combine, they would be doing Oklahoma Drills, not saying that is a bad thing.

  15. akira0724 says:
    March 1, 2023 at 5:47 pm
    I have NEVER heard a real GM grade someone at the combine. The only people that even talk about “rising draft stock” are sportswriters.

    In fact, NO ONE knows what a team’s draft board looks like because it’s so highly guarded – so HOW does a sportswriter even know if a player “rose” or “fell” at all? THEY DON’T.

    The combine is only used to make sure a player can do the basics. It’s NEVER been used to judge a player and no team GM has ever said they did.

    This is just MANUFACTURED controversy.
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    Al Davis has entered the chat. His draft picks were essentially just the fastest guys at the combine, and they fell for the infamous Jamarcus Russell pro day.

  16. The combine has become nothing more than another money maker for the league. No team Is doing any serious player evaluation based on those ridiculous drills. The only value Is for medical data and meeting players gift in interviews. It’s why more coaches choose not to even ho anymore. It’s a better use of their time watching game tapes whic never lie.

  17. How about adding db’s in pajamas for QB’s throwing drills. At least we’ll have some more insight.

  18. pftancelledme says:
    March 1, 2023 at 5:36 pm

    I believe that is the Correct way to do it. The tape does not lie.

    —————–

    Tape does lie. Michael Sam, SEC Defensive player of the year.. mediocre combine numbers.. stock rightfully fell. Terrible pro

    DeMontre Moore consensus top 5 pick coming out of Texas A&M.. horrible combine numbers, stock fell.. Bust

    Clelin Ferrell .. watch his college tape and he’s a top 5-10 pick.. mediocre combine numbers.. Raiders take him top 5 .. widely ridiculed.. Bust.

    Numerous college players dominate and then the combine reveals them to have average level athleticism and their stock falls.

    Tape doesn’t lie when it comes to crappy players.. they don’t tend to get better no matter how fast they ran the 40.. Darius Heyward-Bey being a prime example.

  19. DC has made the Lions my favorite NFC team. It used to be the Eagles but their fans are STILL whining.

  20. How many of these guys will have hamstring issues that impact their rookie season training for this?

  21. I hate that the Saints let Campbell get away. He would have been a much better replacement for Sean Payton that who we have now.

  22. Finally someone with some common sense. The Gil Brandt era died in the 80’s.

  23. A lot of people laughed at Dan Campbells introductory press conference as the Lions new coach. Now that the Lions are winning, now people are enamored by him. Lions4Life!!!

  24. They should have the players see how many kneecaps they can bite in a minute. I bet Campbell would watch that

  25. gooseofgreenbay says:
    March 1, 2023 at 6:21 pm
    Has he watched the tapes of the Lions past 70 years of history yet?

    #Lionsstillsuck
    ===================================================================

    Has LaFleur watched the tapes of the Lions beating the Packers twice last season yet?

  26. Love coach Dan Campbell, and enjoy watching his Lions, but he sounds like a tight end who ran a 4.86 40 at the 1999 Combine.

  27. Running the 40 is merely a guide. Better to kit them up in full playing kit and carrying the ball. Then judge the results. There’s an obvious difference that some players just don’t perform with the latter conditions. I remember the press harping on about Jerry Rice’s less than stellar numbers, but I don’t recall anyone catching him when he saw clear air.

  28. Both are needed, and folks tape can lie too. The quality of opponent means a lot when watching tape and can make a player look faster, stronger, quicker and generally better than when playing a superior opponent. So the tape don’t lie crowd does not tell the story. Seeing players side by side in the same drills is very important.

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