Ravens face tricky decision on level of franchise tag for Lamar Jackson

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A decade ago, the Ravens faced a tricky decision on whether to use the non-exclusive franchise tag or the exclusive tag on quarterback Joe Flacco. On the brink of the deadline of picking one or the other, they signed him to a long-term deal that made him the highest-paid player in the NFL, at the time.

This time around, the chances of getting a long-term deal done with quarterback Lamar Jackson remain remote, especially if Jackson continues to want a fully-guaranteed contract. So the Ravens will have to pick a level of the tag by Tuesday at 4:00 p.m. ET.

If they opt for non-exclusive, they run the risk of someone signing Jackson to an offer sheet they can’t or won’t match. On the bright side, they could match the offer and thank the other team for finally doing what the Ravens haven’t been able to do — get a multi-year deal done with Jackson. On the down side, someone else could offer the fully-guaranteed deal that Ravens apparently will never give to Jackson. They’d then have to settle for a pair of first-round picks.

If they prefer to keep Lamar instead of getting a pair of first-round picks, they could apply the exclusive tag, which would prevent anyone from talking to him or attempting to sign him. They could still trade him for more than two first-round picks, if they were willing to take that — and if another team is willing to give both the Ravens and Jackson what each wants.

In both cases, the Ravens have to account for the possibility that Jackson won’t get an acceptable long-term offer, and that he’ll play under the tag for this year — and potentially next year. The financial difference is significant.

Under the non-exclusive franchise tag, the Ravens would owe Jackson $32.416 million for 2023 and, with a 20-percent raise, $38.89 million for 2024. That’s a two-year investment of $71.31 million.

Under the exclusive tag, the Ravens would owe Jackson $45 million for 2023 and $54 million for 2024. This equates to $99 million for two years.

The difference between the two approaches is $27.69 million. In cash and cap space. For the same player. For the same two seasons.

There’s another question regarding the exclusive versus non-exclusive dilemma. If the Ravens offer $32.416 million instead of $45 million for one year, and if a long-term deal isn’t done, will he refuse to play?

What if, for example, the July 15 deadline for doing a long-term deal comes and goes and Jackson says to the Ravens something like this? “You’re squatting on me for $32.4 million when you could have used the $45 million tag instead. If you want me to play for you at all in 2023, you need to increase the payment to $45 million.”

So there’s significant risk to either option for the Ravens. The right approach ultimately comes down to whether they hope to keep him over the long haul, or whether they’re genuinely interested in exploring the possibility of life without him.

If it’s the former, they should use the exclusive version of the tag. If it’s the latter, they should apply the non-exclusive tag and, along with the rest of us, sit back and see what happens next.

71 responses to “Ravens face tricky decision on level of franchise tag for Lamar Jackson

  1. There isn’t any debate.

    They will use the exclusive tag

    Value of Lamar is much more then 2 firet round picks especially if it comes from a team like the 49ers who would likely pick at the end both years.

    If ravens sign non exclusive any team that tries to sign a contract will structure the deal in a way the ravens can’t match.

  2. Not really. Just apply the exclusive tag. Let him find out no one is going to give him the Watson deal. He will come back and negotiate. If someone gives him a dumb deal. Then they get a lot of draft picks and the other team gets a guy who couldn’t finish the last 2 seasons.

  3. Ravens are in a good spot. Get Lamar at a more reasonable price or pick compensation where they might be better off anyway.

  4. They need to sign him, or use the non-exclusive tag. IE get the contract done, or let the market decide his price.

  5. Non-Exclusive is the way to go! Every day that passes means Lamar’s skills deteriorate a little more. Heck, he’s not even playing full seasons now! He’s putting himself in a box and ANY team would be foolish to mortgage the next 5 or ten years of its salary cap! Just sayin …..

  6. Non-exclusive for sure. He is often injured, malcontent, and a middling qb at best.
    He needs a nice slice of humble pie and this is a great way to serve it. Especially if no one else wants him.

  7. This is a lot of drama for guy who only crossed 3000 passing yards 1x in his career and has never hit 3200 passing yds in a season. He also has missed 5+ games each of the last few seasons and takes a lot of hits.

    With the Cleveland Browns QB debacle, the Broncos QB debacle and to a lesser extent the Carson Wentz debacle the last few years, the market shouldn’t be what Jackson thinks it is.

  8. Hindsight being 20/20, the mistake both LaMar and Ravens made was not getting an extension done before the ‘21 season. Since then, premier players are now demanding huge guarantees- especially QB’s. In Jackson’s case, we’re talking about a running QB who hasn’t been able to finish the past two seasons due to injury. Ravens are justified in their concern over getting the return they’d want on that scale of expenditure as well as the ripple effect that has across a roster, dead money salary cap implications and the fan base.l, too. Risky situation.

  9. This is the easiest decision of the offseason. Use the non-exclusive tag and do not negotiate with him at all unless he hires an agent. Let Jackson find his true value league wide and if another team can get him to sign then Ravens then have a real decision to make. Match it or take two first round picks. No dilemma till they have that choice. I’d tag sooner rather than later so they might get to make that decision before the draft.

  10. If they’re smart they will use the non-exclusive. Either Lamar will realize the market for him isn’t as good as he thought and just resign with Baltimore or some team with no brains will give Baltimore to first round draft picks for him. But hopefully they aren’t smart and they resign him to a huge contract

  11. Non-exclusive tag for sure. Other teams (with real WRs and a poor running game – looking at you Bucs) may value him higher and the Ravens would be better off with a better pocket passer like Carr.

  12. Prolly going to get a lot of thumbs down, but Jackson bailed on his team mates to save himself for a better contract. That’s not a leader.

    If they go exclusive, he most likely will drag it out and not sign going into the start of next season (then get hurt after coming back). If they go non-exclusive he’ll consider that a slap in the face but it gives the Ravens an out if he signs a contract elsewhere.

    I’d go non-exclusive and choose not to resign him.

  13. He is overrated, best year is past, injuries/games missed will increase, and is 2-3 vs. the Stillers. I hope he stays with the Ravens–will hurt their cap and nobody can perform to $40 or $50 million per year.

  14. Lamar is a great talent and I don’t begrudge him the effort to secure his future when every player is a Damar Hamlin hit away from death.

    That said, I question just how unique his skill set is, especially with QBs like Stroud and Richardson in this year’s draft.

    Giving him what he wants starves out the rest of the roster. Go non-exclusive and see how it plays out. Two first rounders will get you a younger Lamar 2.0 on a rookie contract.

  15. It’s clear to use the exclusive tag.

    Despite his many detractors in this forum he is actually a very good quarterback overall in effectiveness and teams that need a quarterback like the Jets would gladly give up to first round picks for him.

  16. I would use the non-exclusive tag. In fact I would have gave him permission to seek a trade. They more than anyone should know you can win a Superbowl with a great defense and a average QB.

  17. It’s obvious to me: the non-exclusive label. For a QB who needs a whole structure around him to function, his demands are bordering on reckless. Lamar by itself, It won’t win you a championship. You need a whole system focused on it to click. And on top of that, he wears out quickly due to his style of play. In the long term, it is not viable. Time will tell.

  18. The exclusive may calculate to $45M right now but it will never be $45M. It “sets” on April 21st. All those quarterbacks with $40M and $50M tags will restructure before then, thus lowering the Top 5 average in the calculation.

    Past 3 years, the exclusive has been about 10% higher than the non-exclusive. Expect no different this year. Exclusive will settle around $35M.

  19. He is washed up. He was unstoppable when he was younger and his legs were completely healthy but he’s been hurt and is past that. He will be a Tyrod Taylor/Geno Smith guy going forward.

  20. The Browns showed us that there will be a team willing to give him the guaranteed money he wants. If the Ravens don’t want to, put the tag on him that gets them two first round picks, move on and take Anthony Richardson and don’t miss a beat. Lamar will never get you to the Super Bowl anyway, move on.

  21. The choice between what level of franchise tag to apply depends on LJax’s likely future health and explosiveness. Consult medical experts to answer that question. Two years ago LJax was a superstar so if he is healthy enough to play at that level again give him the exclusive tag.

  22. I wonder if the owner would get involved. That’s a big difference in money. in ones between the non-exclusive and exclusive franchise tags. Especially if they could do this two years in a row on the exclusive,tag.

  23. Makes no difference if he doesn’t sign the contract. I see no indication he is anything like Cousins.

  24. Take the two first rounders. One of the teams trading for him will most likely be drafting in the top 5. You can get your new QB this season and have another first this year and two next year. Now you get a QB on a rookie contract and you can use that cap space to build around him.

  25. Only Jackson and Mahomes win over 70% of the time they step on the football field. In a down year Jackson was 5th pff QB grade. There is not a single statistic out the there that suggests Lamar jackson is a below average passer and unlike other QB he can do it without talent around him. They will definitely use the exclusive tag. He will get a fully guaranteed contract offer with the non exclusive tag easily. NFL teams know an elite QB when they see one.

  26. Lamar should just show up week 1, collect his guaranteed $32 million, take it easy, play it safe, and let the Ravens reap the rewards of theiir not bringing him into camp with a negotiated salary instead of relying on the tag.

    He doesn’t owe the Ravens a thing any more, he played out his contract.

  27. Sign Carr to a 2-year deal, and let Lamar for to free agency. It is not like he has been healthy the 2nd half of the last 2 season anyway.

  28. dynastydan says:
    March 5, 2023 at 10:28 am
    Remind me again… how many Super Bowls have Ravens won with Jackson as the QB?

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    Same amount as Allen, Burrow, Hurts, Herbert, and Watson

  29. PhD says:
    March 5, 2023 at 1:03 pm

    He’s not even that good.
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    I guess Burrow ain’t that good either since Lamar had a better QBR in 2022 with junk receivers.

  30. All of you “Couch GMs” forget one thing. Lamar is well liked in that locker room, with many coming to his defense saying pay him. What kind of message will it send to the team, and future FA’s? Good Luck Bmore, welcome back to the AFC North basement.

  31. LOL if you’re a fan of an NFC east rival you’re salivating at the idea of the Giants signing the definition of below average mediocrity at QB for 45 million a year. Daniel Jones threw for 300+ yards 3 times all season and 2 of those came against the Vikings who had essentially the worst defense in the league. Sign this man to 40+ Mil Please!!!!

  32. Sign Carr to a 2-year deal, and let Lamar for to free agency. It is not like he has been healthy the 2nd half of the last 2 season anyway.
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    This is a wise move. The Ravens would save money to improve the roster further. Carr would get a few years playing for a consistent winner. The Ravens could transition back to a traditional offense. Carr would help young WRs develop. Later on, draft a QB with a system and players already in place.

  33. pg33 says:
    March 5, 2023 at 4:21 pm
    Sign Carr to a 2-year deal, and let Lamar for to free agency. It is not like he has been healthy the 2nd half of the last 2 season anyway.
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    This is a wise move. The Ravens would save money to improve the roster further. Carr would get a few years playing for a consistent winner. The Ravens could transition back to a traditional offense. Carr would help young WRs develop. Later on, draft a QB with a system and players already in place

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    Not if you are trying to win. Carr had arguably the best weapons in the NFL last season and posted a PFF grade of 66 which is equal to Russell Wilson. Jackson had arguably the worst group of weapons and posted a grade of 85 which is equal to Jalen Hurts. Do you think Trading Hurts for Wilson would improve the eagles? So why in the world do you think the Ravens would improve.

  34. Value of Lamar is much more then 2 firet round picks especially if it comes from a team like the 49ers who would likely pick at the end both years.
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    Would the 49ers attempt to sign a non-exclusively tagged Lamar. This hypothetical got me thinking. I think there’s a chance, but crappier teams would outbid them. Shanahan clearly is desperate for a running QB. Sign Lamar and trade Lance to Titans?

  35. unckleruckus says:
    March 5, 2023 at 4:09 pm

    All of you “Couch GMs” forget one thing. Lamar is well liked in that locker room, with many coming to his defense saying pay him. What kind of message will it send to the team, and future FA’s? Good Luck Bmore, welcome back to the AFC North basement.

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    What they’re saying is they don’t want him to leave. They’re not saying pay him a Watson-sized contract, because if they do that, other players will have to take less, will have lower limits on the potential contracts they can get, and fewer FAs will be able to be signed.

    They’re saying they want the security of knowing a good QB will stick around. The team has been trying to pay him for years, so the “message” will be, we’ll pay you unless you ask for something ridiculous.

  36. So why in the world do you think the Ravens would improve.
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    A) Carr will cost less than Lamar. This leaves money to improve other positions.
    B) Carr played for teams with poor defenses. Stats aren’t apples to apples. Less is required of you when you have a lead for the entire game and your defense is holding strong. Ravens will make Carr better.
    C) Carr will attract better talent at WR, keep them engaged, and develop them. WRs who play with Lamar want to leave, rather than be a decoy whose future earnings vaporize in front of their eyes.
    D) The college style offenses are less successful on the big stage.

  37. Tag him. Burrow & Herbert will not sign a fully guaranteed deal and Lamar will have nothing to say cause they are better than him. The tag him again and Lawrence will not sign a fully guaranteed deal. Then cut him. Get 2 more years out of this running back.

  38. nite2al says:
    March 5, 2023 at 4:05 pm

    I guess Burrow ain’t that good either since Lamar had a better QBR in 2022 with junk receivers.

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    Are you referring to that 0.3 margin in QBR for the 12 games Jackson played before getting hurt, again, and missing the end of the season, again? Because Burrow played 7 more games after Jackson bailed out, including his second-consecutive AFCCG.

    Jackson’s QBR was 9th best for 2022, just behind Brissett, Jones, Smith, and Goff.

    QBR, a 4-years-ago MVP, 1 playoff win in 5 years, and not finishing a season since 2020 doesn’t add up to a whole lot. Meanwhile Burrow has won 5 playoff games in 2 seasons and Mahomes has won 11 in the time Jackson has won one.

    Jackson has the same playoff record as Kirk Cousins.

  39. pg33 says:
    March 5, 2023 at 4:49 pm
    So why in the world do you think the Ravens would improve.
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    A) Carr will cost less than Lamar. This leaves money to improve other positions.
    B) Carr played for teams with poor defenses. Stats aren’t apples to apples. Less is required of you when you have a lead for the entire game and your defense is holding strong. Ravens will make Carr better.
    C) Carr will attract better talent at WR, keep them engaged, and develop them. WRs who play with Lamar want to leave, rather than be a decoy whose future earnings vaporize in front of their eyes.
    D) The college style offenses are less successful on the big stage

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    A) Carr will cost slightly less. $35 million vs $45 Million but there are no quality free agents who fill positions of need to overpay this season.
    B) Carr has played with worst defenses but much better offenses. It’s not like the Raiders lost in shoot outs every week. Carr had perhaps the best running back and wide receiver in football with pro bowlers in Waller and Renfro and was still a bottom 10 QB. With Jackson the Ravens offense was better than the Raiders despite their leader in reception and rushing attempts being guys the Raiders cut out of training. The Ravens defense blew 5 4th quarter leads in the 4 games they lost with Jackson. It makes no sense to expect Carr to be better.
    C) I don’t think you understand how team building works my friend. Davante Adams wanted to play with Carr due to their friendship. That’s it. Way more NFL players would want to win and play with Jackson who wins 70% of his games than Carr who is well below .500. There not one indication that receivers don’t want to play with Jackson. Hollywood Brown was 10th in targets in 2021. He just didn’t do much with them and wanted huge money. He got traded and had a much worse season.
    D) The Raiders averaged more ppg with Carr than with him. The Ravens fell off a cliff without Jackson. That should tell you all you need to know. Jackson didn’t play in college offense in college. Sure having a good defense helps make a QB easier but so does having great players all over your offense. Jackson is a one man offense. Any savings that you have at QB you lose by having to pay a premium at others positions. Davante Adams make almost double all the Ravens WR/RB combined and the Ravens offense was still better than the Raiders with Jackson healthy. No team in the NFL would ever take Carr over Jackson. Has Carr ever been successful on the big stage? The eagles offense looked just fine. Your assessment makes no sense.

  40. kevpft says:
    March 5, 2023 at 4:55 pm
    nite2al says:
    March 5, 2023 at 4:05 pm

    I guess Burrow ain’t that good either since Lamar had a better QBR in 2022 with junk receivers.

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    Are you referring to that 0.3 margin in QBR for the 12 games Jackson played before getting hurt, again, and missing the end of the season, again? Because Burrow played 7 more games after Jackson bailed out, including his second-consecutive AFCCG.

    Jackson’s QBR was 9th best for 2022, just behind Brissett, Jones, Smith, and Goff.

    QBR, a 4-years-ago MVP, 1 playoff win in 5 years, and not finishing a season since 2020 doesn’t add up to a whole lot. Meanwhile Burrow has won 5 playoff games in 2 seasons and Mahomes has won 11 in the time Jackson has won one.

    Jackson has the same playoff record as Kirk Cousins.

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    It takes a soon to be $70 million worth of wide receivers to for Burrow to be Almost as good as Lamar. I don’t care about 2 consecutive AFCC games. Wake Me when Burrow does something Mark Sanchez couldn’t do.
    Burrow is older than Jackson with a more serious injury history. It’s Burrow who has his knee reconstructed once already. Playoff wins without rings mean nothing and the Bengals can never put together enough talent that it would take to get Burrow to win once they have to pay him. Jackson doesn’t need All pros around him to be successful Burrow does

  41. mikecrabtreeschain says:
    March 5, 2023 at 2:19 pm
    Only Jackson and Mahomes win over 70% of the time they step on the football field. In a down year Jackson was 5th pff QB grade. There is not a single statistic out the there that suggests Lamar jackson is a below average passer and unlike other QB he can do it without talent around him. They will definitely use the exclusive tag. He will get a fully guaranteed contract offer with the non exclusive tag easily. NFL teams know an elite QB when they see one.

    No, I don’t see Lamar getting a guaranteed contract from anyone, even though we’re talking about the NFL and a handful of desperate teams. You want statistics? In 5 years Lamar has four 300 passing yard games. That’s right, four 300 yard passing games. Since you’re fond of comparing Lamar to Patrick Mahomes, Mahomes happens to have 41 300 yard passing games. Lamar has passed for over 3,000 yards only once in his career, for 3,127 yards way back in 2019 when he won MVP. Incidentally, 23 other QBs also threw for over 3,000 yards that year. Incidentally, Mahomes has thrown for over 4,000 yards every year he’s been the starter (5 years) and he’s actually thrown over 5,000 yards twice. I think we can stop that comparison.
    So Lamar has won over 70% of the time he’s stepped on the field. That’s true, at least in the regular season. In the playoffs Lamar has won only 25% of the time he’s stepped on the field. Also, the Ravens are known to have a strong front office including coaching. Lamar has been the beneficiary of a strong defense virtually every year he’s been in the league. For 2022 the Ravens allowed the 3rd lowest points against in the league. Easier to win games when your defense keeps putting the ball back in your hands.
    In the end Lamar has been fun to watch and a great athlete. However, his best days are clearly behind him. Good teams figured out how to stop him long ago, which is why his playoff record is so poor. His health is now a question and while I would agree that his passing accuracy has improved over the years I also believe that his running game has slipped, no doubt due to cumulative injuries. Sorry, but Lamar isn’t an elite QB and any team that gives him a guaranteed mega-deal will have serious regrets.

  42. A) Slightly less? 10 million is slightly less? That’s 4% of the salary cap. 10 million is the minimum too, Lamar could get a bigger contract than the tag. You claim there are no positions of need… while there is incessant whining that Lamar needs better weapons. What?
    B) The Raiders constantly were in shootouts. Many of their games over the last few years were 1 score differential. They made some epic comebacks too… which can really only happen if you have a passing game.
    C) You can surmise that Jackson is the preferred QB by all NFL players. Nobody asked to be traded away from Carr to my knowledge.
    D) Are you using Stidham’s brief stint as proof he was better in the offense than Carr? QBs often show out in their first few starts, defenses don’t have tape on them. Jackson isn’t a one man offense. He needs everybody to block for him, WRs to be competent decoys, and a defense that can keep the game very close.

    I don’t disagree that Jackson is more proficient—he was an MVP. The question is, would the Ravens be better with a traditional offense and saving money at the QB position.

  43. mikecrabtreeschain says:
    March 5, 2023 at 2:19 pm
    Only Jackson and Mahomes win over 70% of the time they step on the football field. In a down year Jackson was 5th pff QB grade. There is not a single statistic out the there that suggests Lamar jackson is a below average passer

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    How about this statistic: he has never passed for more than 3200 yards and passed for over 3000 only once

    That’s closer to bottom 5 than top 5

  44. NON EXCLUSIVE all the way!

    Just hope someone signs him from there then he can be their problem. Odds are the picks will be early round as they count on him and he ends up injured.

  45. The owner is calling the shots here and he will not go into the season with Lamar on a Franchise Tag of any kind. That said, they will only use the Exclusive Tag, because it retains absolute control for the Ravens. Then he will be traded to a team they have already had talks with. The only way this scenario doesn’t play out would be if Lamar suddenly seemed willing to compromise – short of that it is Tag and Trade!

  46. kevpft says:
    March 5, 2023 at 4:55 pm

    nite2al says:
    March 5, 2023 at 4:05 pm

    I guess Burrow ain’t that good either since Lamar had a better QBR in 2022 with junk receivers.

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    Are you referring to that 0.3 margin in QBR for the 12 games Jackson played before getting hurt, again, and missing the end of the season, again? Because Burrow played 7 more games after Jackson bailed out, including his second-consecutive AFCCG.

    Jackson’s QBR was 9th best for 2022, just behind Brissett, Jones, Smith, and Goff.

    QBR, a 4-years-ago MVP, 1 playoff win in 5 years, and not finishing a season since 2020 doesn’t add up to a whole lot. Meanwhile Burrow has won 5 playoff games in 2 seasons and Mahomes has won 11 in the time Jackson has won one.

    Jackson has the same playoff record as Kirk Cousins.
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    My point is you guys act like Lamar is a horrible QB and Burrow is Joe Montana. When many measurable has Lamar as the better QB with far less talent around him. I think they are both pretty good QBs at about the same level. Burrow playoffs wins? Come on guys, those were a total team effort. Burrow didn’t do anything special in those wins. Lamar put up 500 total yards in a playoff loss. How about Lamar is the only QB besides Mahomes with 4 playoff appearances in the last 5 years. But you always speak the negative. Cousins playoff record 1-3, the exact reason Lamar should be paid. Hello? And please stop mentioning his passing yardarge and conveniently leaving out his rushing yardage. Yardage is yardage. Lamar has to be an amazing QB. How do the heck do win over 70% of your games and be that horrible at the same time? To top it off, 100% players would rather win an MVP trophy signifying the best of best, than be a loveable Super Bowl loser in Burrow. LOL.

  47. pg33 says:
    I don’t disagree that Jackson is more proficient—he was an MVP. The question is, would the Ravens be better with a traditional offense and saving money at the QB position
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    The easy answer is no. You only save a few million bucks with someone like Carr at QB but you must spend way move at every single over position to build a decent offense. Pay Jackson keep taking swings at finding a quality receiver in the draft to keep defenses honest and pray for injury luck. Your superbowl window is open for the next five years with Jackson or sign someone like Carr and Jakobi Myers and go 6-11 and rebuild.

  48. Ravens have already decided they don’t want LJ long term. Just trying to make it look like they do & maneuvering to get maximum compensation when he’s traded or gets a deal.

  49. With either deal the Ravens aren’t winning a Super Bowl with Jackson. That cap space can be better used with a lesser Qb and more team players. They will be further away signing him to either of these overpaid “deals”. Use non-exclusive, hope somebody thinks that he is a bargain at that price, get the two #1s, and draft well. Last time I checked he’s played in ZERO SBs and thus won ZERO SBs. His best days are behind him, and now he’s getting hurt for large portions of a season. The gig is up.

  50. Use the non exclusive tag. Let Jackson negotiate with other teams: any teams with the cap space to overpay Jackson probably has higher level draft picks, 2 first’s would be valuable. If no one offers him a contract, you get a year at a reasonable rate. If he holds out, give Huntley a chance and pick up a cheaper QB like Mariota as insurance. If he shows up “injured” and “can’t” play, sign Mariota anyway, take the high road publicly and let ‘sources’ leak your frustrations and doubts.

    This is Seattle and Wilson all over again: no one is admitting it publicly, but the player-management relationship in Baltimore is broken and a breakup is inevitable. At least Baltimore got 5 years of QB play from him at a good price before parting ways.

  51. Jackson is yesterday’s news. He didn’t show up at the end of the yr w/ a very minor knee ailment, his arm IS very weak, and his mommy runs his finances because he’s too cheap to hire an agent. There are 2 guys on this entire blog who are fooled that he is elite. About 95% here know he can’t read defenses and won’t win jack.

  52. The easy answer is no. You only save a few million bucks with someone like Carr at QB but you must spend way move at every single over position to build a decent offense. Pay Jackson keep taking swings at finding a quality receiver in the draft to keep defenses honest and pray for injury luck. Your superbowl window is open for the next five years with Jackson or sign someone like Carr and Jakobi Myers and go 6-11 and rebuild.
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    Disagree. Again, it’s more than a few million dollars. You are then forced to gamble on drafted WRs who are unknown… because no proven WR will come to Baltimore in free agency. At least one proven WR was on the roster and wanted to leave because of the gimmick offense. Lamar makes nobody around him better. Undrafted Tyler Huntley performs well in the offense when Lamar is hurt… don’t tell me the Ravens don’t have a good team or Lamar is the sole reason for their success.

    The Ravens are a winning organization without Lamar. I don’t expect the Ravens to perform badly with Carr, just the opposite. The Ravens don’t need Lamar–they achieved more with pedestrian Flacco and Dilfer performances in normal offenses with a roster built to be a TEAM… not a one-man highlight reel who exits the playoffs really fast.

    Speaking of the gimmick offense, is Baltimore abandoning it? If so, letting Lamar leave is a foregone conclusion. Nobody would prefer Jackson over Carr in a traditional offense. On top of that, Carr is significantly cheaper too. Statistically speaking, Lamar isn’t much of an upgrade-similar yardage (including rushing) and TDs. Since 2019, Carr had 16,915 yards and 100 TDs; Lamar had 14,750 yards and 114 TDs. The Raiders have been a dysfunctional organization before he even arrived, don’t tell me Carr had some luxury that skewed his stats and what not.

  53. I think the Ravens negotiate with their top offer being 10 years/$500M with $200M guaranteed at signing ($40M/year for 5 years). If he won’t take that?

    Non-exclusive because he won’t play on the exclusive tag. He’ll sit the year instead. Maybe find a tag and trade partner.

  54. If it were me I’d do the non-exclusive and let the market set the price. Any smart team would never give up 2 1st rounders and a load of guaranteed money so I would doubt that will happen.
    They would save millions if Jackson ends up signing it or possibly get 2 1st rounders for someone who is looking like an injury-prone problem child and fizzling out like Cam Newton & RGIII.
    Cut your losses. You aren’t going to get MVP Jackson back so don’t back up the Brinks truck to his garage.

  55. I’d say take the picks if someone is willing to take him. If he was coming off his MVP season or a season like Hurts just had I could understand the Ravens ponying up with the guaranteed money. The problem is he’s expecting that money coming off of a couple of injury riddled seasons along with possibly sitting out a playoff game due to contract negotiations. He honestly doesn’t hold all the leverage here as much as the talkings heads will tell you. If you think he can stay healthy and be a top 10 QB for the duration of the contract then do it. Teams have these questions and they are warranted.

  56. Ravens are in a bad position. They can use either tag, and then Jackson can sit out until the regular season begins and then once he’s out on the field he runs a few plays and all of a sudden he is injured! He tweeks his bad knee and can’t play. While not playing, he’s still going to be paid under the franchise tag.

  57. People who think Lamar is an elite QB and throw out his useless stats only say it for one reason.

  58. My point is you guys act like Lamar is a horrible QB and Burrow is Joe Montana. When many measurable has Lamar as the better QB with far less talent around him.

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    Burrow took his team to a SB. Lamar can’t even win a postseason game

  59. lawrence stacy says:
    March 6, 2023 at 7:08 am
    People who think Lamar is an elite QB and throw out his useless stats only say it for one reason

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    What’s the one reason that credible sources such as Pro Football Focus and The ringer say that Jackson is elite? I think the people who ignore stats/facts and say Jackson is not elite only do so for one reason

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