Now more than ever, Lamar Jackson needs an agent

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Lamar Jackson has never had an agent. He has always needed one.

He needs one now, more than ever.

Five years ago, the absence of an agent in the weeks preceding the draft allowed bullshit narratives and talking points about Jackson potentially changing positions to go unchecked, publicly or privately. For all the things that the Bill Polians of the world were saying into a microphone, agents representing other quarterbacks were surely bad-mouthing Jackson behind the scenes, in an effort to ensure that their own clients could be drafted higher. Jackson had no one protecting him against that dynamic and, to no surprise, he slid all the way to No. 32.

Now, as teams quickly slam the door on Jackson before he even approaches the porch, Jackson needs an agent to develop and execute a plan for using Jackson’s new status under the non-exclusive franchise tag to his advantage. As teams that are otherwise committed to due diligence for any and all competent players try to bury their heads in the sand as to Jackson, a skilled and connected agent can get their attention. A skilled and connected agent can explain to these teams the path to getting Lamar to sign an offer sheet that the Ravens perhaps wouldn’t or couldn’t match. A skilled and connected agent could work the media to create the impression, true or otherwise, that a bidding war will emerge for Jackson’s services. A truly skilled and connected agent could even get a team that truly isn’t interested in Jackson to feign interest as a favor, possibly getting some other team to come to the table.

If, as MDS pointed out, certain agents represented Lamar, certain national insiders with more than 10 million Twitter followers would be reporting that multiple teams are preparing a lucrative offer sheet for the quarterback. Whether that’s the truth or not simply would not matter.

These are all real benefits of having a good agent. And these are all activities unrelated to the actual negotiation of a contract. Players who choose to represent themselves think they’re saving money for services they don’t really need, without ever fully understanding the full breadth of the services that a good agent can and will provide.

It’s too late to undo the damage that has been done to Lamar’s interests by not having an agent. But he should resist the temptation to double (or triple) down on his decision, refusing to create the impression in hiring an agent now that he was wrong to not have one earlier. He should realize that he has little or no chance to get the long-term deal he has deserved for more than two years without an agent.

It’s clearly not the Ravens. They’ve shown they can do fair deals with a wide variety of players, and they recently signed self-represented linebacker Roquan Smith to a long-term deal. The problem is Lamar’s lack of an agent.

There’s another reason for Lamar to have an agent, beyond the upcoming free-agency process. A team that signs him presumably will want to keep him around for more than two or three years. At some point, his contract may need to be renegotiated or extended. Given the chronic and persistent struggles the Ravens have had when it comes to reaching any type of agreement with Lamar, teams may want to avoid those types of issues in the future.

For all these reasons and more, Lamar needs an agent. He has always needed one. Now, as he embarks on the ability to talk to other teams and to potentially negotiate a long-term contract, he needs an agent like never before.

Hopefully, someone who truly cares about Lamar and who has influence over him will get him to realize that, before he ends up without a long-term contract and having to decide between playing and not playing in 2023 for the insultingly low sum of $32.4 million.

165 responses to “Now more than ever, Lamar Jackson needs an agent

  1. Why does he need someone to “tell” him to get an agent. He should be able to figure that out himself. Quit making him sound like he’s an idiot.

  2. In all candor, he has had trouble finishing the season the past couple of years due to injury. I am not sure he is a safe long term investment for any team, based on his playing style. His game is all predicated on the run, and his passing ability is suspect. if he loses his ability to run, he is not an option as a passing qb.

    So, i am not sure if the franchise tag salary is an insult.

  3. Lamar was eligible to sign a massive extension for a hundred million plus guaranteed two years ago, same time that Josh Allen did. He’s already given up generational wealth that he’ll never get back because he chose to not hire an agent. You can’t fix stupid.

  4. I agree Tampa is not a bad option.. no idea if they have the cap space to pull it off. I could see a few other teams trying to arrange something AFTER the draft if they have a higher pick.

  5. For as wrong as Florio is about the collusion issue, he’s absolutely right about this one.

    A good agent would get Lamar the best contract possible. That’s what they do.

  6. It’s pretty simple … Teams are not going to give out guaranteed contracts. Watson was a stupid decision and an aberration. Get that out of your head in negotiations. If Lamar took that off the table he would be signed now.

  7. Is he a great player? At times…when he plays…yes.

    How many teams need a QB? Five?…maybe six? Let’s say seven.

    How many of those teams are willing to rebuild their entire offense to accommodate a QB that is most dangerous as a runner? And of those teams, how many are willing to award him a contract the size he expects to get. When those teams in need look at the upcoming draft and weigh their options with QBs available via draft, Lamar’s options get a lot closer to zero.

    Interesting to watch.

  8. ‘teams quickly slam the door on Jackson before he even approaches the porch’

    GREAT line!

  9. I don’t think he’s a top QB in the league, but he’s a top 10 playmaker and there are a lot of teams that could use him and see more wins. How in the world he’d manage to schedule meetings, negotiate with multiple teams, etc without an agent though I don’t know. I think we’re going to see him visit a few teams, probably he says something dumb like “don’t even bother offering me a contract unless it’s fully guaranteed” and he ends up stuck with the Ravens on the tag. The narrative for several years now has basically been that he does not negotiate. He ignored the Ravens attempts to resign him for 2 years, then it became “fully guaranteed or nothing”, allegedly. If he negotiates with anyone, he’s doing the Ravens a favor.

  10. May I suggest Athletes First?

    Dak, playing on a tag, dislocated foot. No problem. $40M / yr, under Covid cap of $182M, no trade clause, no tag clause, and they even made Dallas apply the 2nd tag.

    Deshaun Watson, sat out a year, couple dozen civil suits. No problem. Super easy. Barely an inconvenience. $230M, 5 years, 100% guaranteed.

    Danny Dimes. Giants can’t tag both Dimes and Saquon. Danny gets $40M per year base plus incentives of $8.75M per year. We don’t know how low the bar is on the incentives but if they’re low, Danny Dimes is currently the 2nd highest paid QB in the NFL at $48.75M per.

  11. Mike all of the misleading things an agent can do as you pointed out is reality.
    At the same time it is a sad commentary of how we as a society function.

  12. I’d wager to say he’ll get an agent only after realizing the sh*t show he created for himself. This is the best offseason story, so far!

  13. Almost verbatim a company I worked at was told the same thing. Now more than ever we need a Union. Well we finally got one, against my wishes of course and the employees who weren’t naive. The Union arrived. The company left Santa Clara immediately, now thriving in Nevada, without a union. Agents and unions aren’t the great benefit they were a hundred years ago. Money grabbing entities.

  14. How is 32 million insultingly low for a player that missed 5 games last year & 4 the previous year?
    And it seemed like he just quit on the team last year.

  15. Agents are invaluable when it comes to negotiations. They can play the bad guy, making all sorts of demands, and the player isn’t faulted at all by the team. They also tend to have a better idea of the market than the player himself so they know what they can push for and probably get as opposed to what demands will be viewed as non-starters. Jackson seems to have just thrown out an edict of what he wanted and didn’t attempt to negotiate at all.

  16. @gjv001 – The only way Tampa NEEDS Jackson is if Jackson is willing to move to RB position!
    They recently spent 5 years suffering through a qb with accuracy issues just before Tom Brady..

  17. The Baltimore Ravens need Lamar Jackson a lot more than Lamar Jackson needs an agent.

    He’s got the talent, he’s got the leverage.

    He’s about to make a lot of money for one year and then he’s going to make a lot money over a prolonged period of time.

    No one wants to admit that he knows what he’s doing and/or he’s actually quite smart.

  18. Too late. LJ’s screwed himself into a corner. No one is going to trade 2 1st round picks and sign him to a $45-50m year contract, guaranteed and with a no trade clause.

    Jets – they want Rodgers, clearly
    Colts & Panthers – stated a while back they want to draft and develop someone
    Raiders – LJ won’t fit into McDaniels scheme even if he once drafted Tebow.
    Commanders – same as Colts & Panthers. They went down the veteran QB path and failed miserably
    Seattle – just signed Geno but they could draft a QB at #5

    That leaves the Falcons. They have cap space but do they want to blow it all on one player? Plus they have Ridder to develop.

    LJ will play for the Ravens or no one in 2023.

  19. I think even an agent is not going to increase the league demand for Jackson and reality is setting in.

    In effect the Ravens have dared the other NFL teams to sign Jackson in a clear signal that they don’t think he is worth what he is demanding and they’d be happy to take 2 1st rounders for him. They are also very sure that nobody is going to offer a better contract than they have already offered. So they win either way, (1) Jackson at what THEY think is worth, or (2) 2 first rounders and he becomes another team’s problem.

    Jackson “problem” is he is a very unique QB talent which hasn’t been proven to be a winning talent in the NFL. Yes he wins regular season games, yes he runs up gaudy non-QB like stats but he doesn’t do what a NFL team NEEDS a QB to do. That is (1) Win playoff games and give you a legit shot at the SB and (2) stay healthy.

    The other part of his problem is he isn’t a ‘plug and play’ QB. You need a unique game plan to properly utilize him and unique talent to implement that game plan. Right now only one team is built that way … Baltimore.

    And Baltimore may have the upper hand because they may already have his replacement on the roster.

  20. Agree ! How do you even try to sign Lamar … DM his mom on Insta to get her cell # ? It’s insanely unprofessional to operate like this. We’re talking about a person earning at least $33 million a year. I’m scared for him that he’ll get no calls and will end up playing for $32M making less than Danny Dimes.

  21. Throughout the Lamar contract situation, I have been pro Lamar. Now, I’m questioning is Lamar being selfish? He wants to take up a good chunk of the cap space, and be the only one on the team with a guaranteed contract? Is Lamar being a socially conscious trailblazer rallying against the billionaires, or is he just trying to manifest billions himself, teammates be damned? I don’t know. Just had these thoughts recently, and questioning my automatic reaction to be pro-player and anti-owner. It’s not black and white. And when I am getting ready in the morning to go to a job that barely pays the bills, and hear in the background the mothership broadcasting that 130 million is an insult to Lamar, I think maybe, just maybe Lamar isn’t quite who I have perceived him to be.

  22. Let’s all get out our crying towels for another unappreciative multimillionaire.

  23. You negelected to mention the agent to serve Lamar a reality sandwich and help him understand when it is time to take a little less and play football.
    There is a time to play chicken and a time to say take the best offer vs no offer

  24. He can do whatever he wants. Why do you care so much? If he screws up his own career it’s his prerogative.

  25. Wide Receivers do NOT want to play with a running QB. THAT fact must be factored into this equation. If your team has a solid WR/TE corps, and you trade for Jackson, the WRs/TE will see decreased targets, receptions, and TDs, all of which affect their bonuses and contracts.

  26. elvoid says:
    March 8, 2023 at 10:28 am
    For as wrong as Florio is about the collusion issue, he’s absolutely right about this one.

    A good agent would get Lamar the best contract possible. That’s what they do.

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    If it’s not collusion why aren’t the Colts, Falcons, Commanders, Panthers, or Raiders which all need a quarterback badly at least saying they’d like to meet with Lamar to at least make him a low ball or “fair offer” in their mind? The fact they already slammed the door on it regardless of guaranteed money amount is definitely suspect of collusion.

  27. having to decide between playing and not playing in 2023 for the insultingly low sum of $32.4 million.
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    That sum would put him as the 7th highest paid QB last season. That’s insulting?

  28. No one will sign him for what he thinks he’s worth…cause he isn’t worth it…
    He will end up playing another injury-plagued season for the Ravens at $32 million…thinking he’ll do better next year…
    He won’t.

  29. I’m pretty sure what you’re saying about someone getting in his ear to tell him to get an agent has already been tried. For some reason, he is stuck on negotiating the biggest contract in NFL history all by himself and he has essentially alienated himself from potential suitors. Perhaps Lamar has over estimated his market in that teams are afraid to pull the trigger on 2 1’s and a fully guaranteed deal on a guy who hasn’t been able to finish the season the past two years.

  30. Teams are coming to the realization that you either have a quarterback capable of winning a Super Bowl, or you don’t. And Lamar Jackson is not capable of winning a super bowl. So why tie up so much of your cap with an asset that can’t deliver the objective?

  31. Tampa is 50 million over the cap and shedding talent left and right to get to even. Now you want a 46 million a year QB thrown into that?

  32. Nah his mommy can handle the job why pay a professional.

    I am shure she is qualified.

  33. The ravens obviously have the best offer and are willing to give him the most and his unwillingness to engage in good faith while being pushed as a pawn by the NFLPA has resulted in this mess. He made his bed and now he can lie in it and he can go do zoom calls with other teams on his own and find out nobody is gonna give him more money than the ravens have offered him. People were telling him to play WR and the ravens believed In him and drafted him to be a qb and this is his repayment to one of the better organizations in pro sports.

  34. There is a point of diminishing returns. The money he’s already not made and invested by not hiring an agent and doing a deal two years ago can never be made up in a deal today! He’s not getting a Watson deal for a ton of reasons. He’s truly a moron and will continue to lose money in the long-term by not hiring an agent!

  35. You guys act like Lamar has crashed and burned. He has not lost anything. The Ravens are working on a long term deal. If another team does not step up, he gets 30 million plus either way and it increases the next year or he gets a new deal. Too much hoopla around this, 30 mil or 50 mil, dude is rich either way. Everyone wants a quick remedy and it could take months or years. I don’t mind the Ravens stance nor Lamar’s, especially since the Ravens tried to low ball him once already. If Lamar knows his number, he doesn’t need an agent. Don’t act like he is the first guy to work his own contract. Roquan Smith just worked out a pretty handsome deal with the Ravens with no agent.

  36. What about Chicago? They have a ton of cap space. If they arent sold on Fields you can trade him away and get something back.

  37. When I do my taxes next year, I’m hoping I’m totally bummed out for only making $30 million.

  38. 1st this shows what the ravens truly think of him, they basically said what i said to my son a few yeras ago ‘go out into the real world and see what its like, see whats it like when you dont have that safety net of us’ we all know how that turns out cause most of us have been there, we all think the grass in greener on the other side! but it actually rarely is! the ravens are a smart franchise, they are letting lamar test the waters and see that no other team is willing to overpay, fully guarantee, and tailor the offense around him once he see’s that he will come home and to see how good he has it and the ravens will come out looking good, lamar not so much in my opinion. also, we dont know how quick lamar picks up new offenses, he has only been in 1 his whole career. i think that lamr thought the ravens would cave especially after he sat out the end of the season and into the playoffs and they did not win, i think after they lost that final game w/o him he probably figured they would come crawling to him, guess he was wrong. maybe he was taking a play out of Flacco’s playbook from when he bet on himself innhis final contract yr and didnt sign a new contract till after the season, the difference was flacco won the superbowl and was a hero who earned the big contract lamar bet on himself, got hurt, quit on the team and is coming out as the goat(not G.O.A.T) good job lamar

  39. It’s all part of the master plan… as AGENTFORLAMAR we did our due diligence and here we are, holding all the cards

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    KCFinfan says:
    March 8, 2023 at 10:23 am
    Why does he need someone to “tell” him to get an agent. He should be able to figure that out himself. Quit making him sound like he’s an idiot.
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    Well, has he figured it out yet? No. If he continues to represent himself, and it blows up in his face, then he IS an idiot.

  41. necessaryroughness says:
    March 8, 2023 at 10:50 am
    Teams are coming to the realization that you either have a quarterback capable of winning a Super Bowl, or you don’t. And Lamar Jackson is not capable of winning a super bowl. So why tie up so much of your cap with an asset that can’t deliver the objective?
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    And how exactly would you know this? Especially in a team sport and where only Mahomes wins more games than Lamar. These types of statements always get me. Was Marino capable of winning a SB? Was Dilfer? One did and one didn’t and not the better one. So, is Allen, Herbert, Hurts, Burrow capable? Well, at this point, they’re all in the same boat as Lamar, ringless.

  42. This is all of his fault. No sympathy for him and the Ravens hold no blame in this. Take the pity party somewhere else.

  43. Business decision, not collusion. Exclusive tag 45m, no brainer for the Ravens, they do the right choice, and offer him to negotiate with others. But no one wants to do a 5-year full guaranteed + lose 2 first rounders. This guy should think about teammates and SB wins, he would still have plenty $$$ without it being full guarantee, more than enough for a lifetime and his kids, and their kids, and their kids, etc.

  44. Can we stop framing this narrative that the Ravens are only willing to pay him 32.4 million this year? The franchise tag is a device to open negotiations, not a final offer. Does anyone in their right mind think that the Ravens want to appear to be low balling their most important player?

    Do we know if Lamar at least has a lawyer on retainer to field offers? Please don’t tell me he is not getting professional legal advice in the absence of an agent.

    As great as Lamar is, is he willing to entertain the idea of evolving into more of a passing QB as he gets older? I believe a player of his talent can make such an evolution. As a coach or GM, I would want him to do so out of self-interest in his own longevity.

    If not, then the list of teams for which he is a fit shrinks dramatically.

    Talent and athleticism alone aren’t enough to succeed at QB. You have to be a student and evolve your game because the Belichicks of the world will take your game away if you don’t.

  45. Why does he need someone to “tell” him to get an agent. He should be able to figure that out himself. Quit making him sound like he’s an idiot.

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    Yes … he is doing that on his own.

  46. Perfect storm of trouble:

    – no agent
    – injured a lot
    – Cleveland’s desperation move blew up the entire QB market for years
    – teams obviously colluding to reset the market after Deshaun

    Lamar is more talented (but maybe less durable) than Deshaun, but the owners will do everything they can to stop him from getting the guaranteed money he wants.

  47. Momma is my agent and she says I am worth 5years, $250 all guaranteed, and I am not kinky.

  48. Lamar- No agent make your deal… So you stick it to all the agents.. more players will follow..

  49. Lamar has already said he prefers the Kirk cousins model. He wants to keep getting franchised until he gets to unrestricted free agency.

  50. justsaying says:
    March 8, 2023 at 10:42 am
    elvoid says:
    March 8, 2023 at 10:28 am
    For as wrong as Florio is about the collusion issue, he’s absolutely right about this one.

    A good agent would get Lamar the best contract possible. That’s what they do.

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    If it’s not collusion why aren’t the Colts, Falcons, Commanders, Panthers, or Raiders which all need a quarterback badly at least saying they’d like to meet with Lamar

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    Because they want their passing games to account for more than 3000 yards per season

  51. namingrights says:
    March 8, 2023 at 10:36 am
    You negelected to mention the agent to serve Lamar a reality sandwich and help him understand when it is time to take a little less and play football.
    There is a time to play chicken and a time to say take the best offer vs no offer

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    if he doesn’t want to take less and play football he certainly doesn’t have to. A shame for the fans, because he’s an exciting player, but oh well.

    I still think some team is gonna give him all that and a bag of chips. The money is free flowing in the NFL right and and the cap is getting bigger. He’s likely to get paid.

  52. Jackson wants what Watson got? Then get what Watson had, an agent.

    Would Watson have that contract without an agent? Not a chance.

  53. Crazy to see all these working class guys side with management. You aretruly boot lickers. Siding with sleazy billionaires, these guys are the ones who we pay to see. THe game could exist without owners look at the packers, the reason people dont watch the XFL is because the best PLAYERS aren’t there. Stop fighting for the wrong team.

  54. I’m not sure he needed one for his rookie contract, but yeah, he probably needs one now… if for no other reason than to talk some sense into his head about his demands…

    I’d also guess that an agent would probably be getting him some decent endorsement deals and what not too. I can understand not wanting to pay a commission, but you can probably negotiate not paying a commission on said rookie deal that the agent didnt’ technically negotiate… I’d think a good agent would be smart enough to look the other way on that since Jackson is a fairly marketable asset.

  55. So, which one is it? He needs an agent or “the man” is holding him back with collusion?

  56. justsaying says:
    March 8, 2023 at 10:42 am

    If it’s not collusion why aren’t the Colts, Falcons, Commanders, Panthers, or Raiders which all need a quarterback badly at least saying they’d like to meet with Lamar to at least make him a low ball or “fair offer” in their mind? The fact they already slammed the door on it regardless of guaranteed money amount is definitely suspect of collusion.

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    Because they have a reasonable idea of what the draft cost and money will be already.

    Because they know that low-balling a guy in this situation is likely to blow up as a big PR negative for the team.

    Because they know the style of offense that suits LJ’s talents and the what they will have to do (and how long it will take) to get the rest of the team to take advantage of that.

    Because they have their own plans – right or wrong – for solving their quarterback issues.

    People act as if signing LJ will automatically guarantee a team – any team – the next five Super Bowl trophies. If that were true, then, sure, teams should be falling over themselves to get the guy. But you know that it’s not guaranteed. You know it’s likely to be well below that level of success, at least in the near term. So why can’t you accept that there might be legit reasons teams aren’t interested in LJ?

  57. I LOVE BIG ( . Y . ) says:
    March 8, 2023 at 10:59 am
    What about Chicago? They have a ton of cap space. If they arent sold on Fields you can trade him away and get something back.

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    I laughed so hard I just burped up a little barf on that one.

  58. A wise man said to me: Son, NEVER try to mourn more than the bereaved. Lamar Jackson is a grown a** man. He is already sleeping on the bed he made.

  59. Unfortunately for Lamar, I think he really needs an agent for PR purposes also. I don’t think many teams want to pay him huge guaranteed money to be the QB of their team. Other than the Browns, I just don’t think there are that many foolish teams/owners/GMs out there. I stand corrected, there are many that are foolish, just not quite that foolish.

  60. The only players that need agents are second tier and lower that actually need to pitch their value. Lamar is clearly part of this class of player but at the same time he is an adult and can make decisions for himself.

  61. The example is former Seattle Seahawks Russell Okung who negotiated his own contract with Denver and basically signed a non guaranteed contract because of ignorance of deals. It was 5 year $50 million but actually was only one year with 4 years not guaranteed. Denver did not pick up option te next year.

  62. Jackson probably should have an agent, but maybe he just doesn’t want to pay the fees related to having one. Regardless of whether he ever gets one or not, he’s not giving the impression that he’s very good at it. He went ‘radio-silent’ the year he was drafted, as I recall, while the Ravens were trying to get his deal done and get him on the field. If it’s media driven or not I don’t hear anyone talking about how great of a job he’s done as his own agent and how it’s been so well recieved that other players are starting to gravitate to doing it the same way. It’s sort of like when a head coach thinks he can be the GM at the same time. Put your time and effort to what your strengths are instead of spreading yourself so thin you stink up both jobs.

  63. justsaying says:
    March 8, 2023 at 10:42 am

    If it’s not collusion why aren’t the Colts, Falcons, Commanders, Panthers, or Raiders which all need a quarterback badly at least saying they’d like to meet with Lamar to at least make him a low ball or “fair offer” in their mind? The fact they already slammed the door on it regardless of guaranteed money amount is definitely suspect of collusion.

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    I would have thought you could figure this out for yourself. The Colts, Falcons, Commanders, Panthers and Raiders make a “low ball” or “fair offer?” Because Jackson has already made clear from his end that kind of offer is a total waste of time – he has been clear enough about what he wants, adn what he wants is a “Watson-like” deal.

    No team is going to give him the “Watson deal.” Just because the Browns did a very stupid thing (as the Browns tend to do), other teams don’t have to follow.

    As soon as Lamar comes down off this idea and start talking realistically, there will be a bidding war.

  64. i cant agree with some on here claiming he cant win a superbowl. he’s won game sin this league. i’d say with pieces around them and with a good defense and fortuitous situations theres 20 qbs who could win a superbowl.

  65. bostonblows says:
    March 8, 2023 at 10:34 am
    The Baltimore Ravens need Lamar Jackson a lot more than Lamar Jackson needs an agent.

    He’s got the talent, he’s got the leverage.

    He’s about to make a lot of money for one year and then he’s going to make a lot money over a prolonged period of time.

    No one wants to admit that he knows what he’s doing and/or he’s actually quite smart.
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    Of course, they need him more. They were 2 games up on the hapless Bengals when he was injured. Remember where they were before Lamar or without him? See Cincy playoff game. Only in PFT land is Lamar so denigrated. Players from other teams like JJ Watt and Mathieu are speaking up for Lamar. Game recognizes game.

  66. The Baltimore Ravens need Lamar Jackson a lot more than Lamar Jackson needs an agent.

    He’s got the talent, he’s got the leverage.

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    Are you kidding me ?? He has zero leverage now. Injured the end of season the last 2 years. Running QB with his best tools broken. Wants guaranteed contract. Others teams would have to totally re-vamp their offense to support him, plus give up 2 1st round picks, plus pay him 240 million guaranteed.

  67. This is exactly what the ravens did with Ray Lewis.
    Their contract talks stalled, and they let him test the market and bring the best offer back. Ravens weren’t gonna negotiate against themselves, especially when both players had/have such high demands.
    Let the market decide, and it takes any personal feelings out of the equation.
    Smart move by the ravens.

  68. “The Baltimore Ravens need Lamar Jackson a lot more than Lamar Jackson needs an agent.”

    Have you seen how the last two seasons ended? Pretty sure that’s fresh in the Ravens’ minds. Would they be happy enough to overpay him? Probably. But they’re unlikely desperate enough to give him the guaranteed deal he’s looking for…at least not at more than a year at a time. If Lamar wants to go year to year, I think the Ravens would be happy to oblige. And when Lamar no longer looks likely to be worth the next year, they’ll move on. Or if a team is dumb enough to pay him huge money AND give up two firsts, the Ravens will be happy enough to move on now…

  69. $32 million is no way insulting through the franchise tag. Now, it would be insulting if that’s the average Ravens are offering, which isn’t. Lamar can earn much more than if he realizes his true worth and get away from guaranteed money.

  70. There in the 3rd to last paragraph is a very important detail, especially considering the reported desire for Jackson to get a guaranteed contract. A team that guarantees a contract is on the hook for the entire amount, however, as shown over and over, if a player has a good year he feels no compunction to hold up his end of the contract. He immediately starts whining about being underpaid and wants to renegotiate.

  71. The Ravens called Lamar’s bluff. Now, instead of getting 50 million or more, with a lot of it guaranteed, he will have to play for $32 Million. It’s NOT chump change, but he’s still losing millions with no guarantees if he gets hurt or plays poorly.

    No team will want to give the Ravens two 1st round picks for Lamar…and then still have to give Lamar what he wants.

  72. It suggests a pretty huge absence of good judgment on his part. To be in a profession where ability is everything but to dismiss the value of a skilled professional in the area of contracts and finances is a bit staggering.

    He’s not the first and won’t be the last to take the wrong advice, but he’d already be a couple years into a huge contract right now if he’d had an agent. Instead, he and whoever else is working with him has stars in their eyes.

  73. If, as MDS pointed out, certain agents represented Lamar, certain national insiders with more than 10 million Twitter followers would be reporting that multiple teams are preparing a lucrative offer sheet for the quarterback
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    Soooo because someone you work with put on a tin foil hat its supposed to be a fact?

  74. jgd3rd says:
    March 8, 2023 at 10:23 am
    He who represents himself has a fool for a client.
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    Yet time and time again we see players with agents holding out to get the contract they want, ie, Donald, Mack, Elliott, Prescott, even Emmitt Smith once held out for 2 months and missed the first two games of the season. DeAndre Hopkins had no agent and signed a contract that made him the highest paid non-QB in the history of the NFL. If you think you’re worth more than anyone is willing to pay, do you think only an agent can tell you that?

  75. A QB who makes his living running got injured and refused to be there for his team in the playoffs. Remember when Philip Rivers played for his team in the playoffs with a torn ACL? I would much rather pay a player like Philip Rivers than someone like Lamar Jackson!

  76. KCFinfan says:
    March 8, 2023 at 10:23 am
    Why does he need someone to “tell” him to get an agent. He should be able to figure that out himself. Quit making him sound like he’s an idiot.
    _________________
    But he is an idiot. If he wasn’t, he’d have an agent.

  77. He does not need an agent. It is clear that the NFL is not letting him play for anyone but the Ravens and the Ravens will just keep tagging him to see if he can stay healthy.

  78. pacman says:
    March 8, 2023 at 11:43 am

    The Baltimore Ravens need Lamar Jackson a lot more than Lamar Jackson needs an agent.

    He’s got the talent, he’s got the leverage.

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    Are you kidding me ?? He has zero leverage now. Injured the end of season the last 2 years. Running QB with his best tools broken. Wants guaranteed contract. Others teams would have to totally re-vamp their offense to support him, plus give up 2 1st round picks, plus pay him 240 million guaranteed.
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    Dumb. If he has no leverage, then the Ravens can just cut him. Obviously, if you are in contract talks, you have leverage, duh. I swear is Lamar the only QB to have 2 injuries in a career? Must be. And how is that indicative of another injury? Did you read it in a fortune cookie?

  79. We don’t know how low the bar is on the incentives but if they’re low, Danny Dimes is currently the 2nd highest paid QB in the NFL at $48.75M per.

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    I read a line like that and it proves me right. The ravens are taking a chance here at finally letting “the market decide” without any interference what the true value is on some of these players. They have a chance to do the rest of the league a solid and curb some of the ridiculous numbers some of these guys are getting.

  80. And soon he will get to negotiate without a single offer from others.

    What a clown.

  81. watsonisaperv says:
    March 8, 2023 at 11:25 am

    Crazy to see all these working class guys side with management. You aretruly boot lickers. Siding with sleazy billionaires, these guys are the ones who we pay to see.

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    Nah, you’ve got it backwards. Guys who hold their teams hostage for huge contracts are only taking away money from their fellow players on their team. The billionaires still pay the same. What you’re championing is structural inequity within the ranks of players. Which is a funny thing to get so self-righteous about.

    Plus, these guys are all the wealthy 1% elite of society. The difference between what regular people make and what pro athletes make is in every possible way more meaningful than the difference between a multi-millionaire and billionaire. They’re all drains on society, hoarding resources while others suffer.

  82. Huntley, Jackson’s backup, looked about 90% as effective as Jackson in the Harbough offense. Huntley costs 10 million.

  83. He’s just another good QB. I watch him as a Steeler fan and hope he stays a Raven at $50M per season. He does not scare me. The very mediocre Steelers are 5-1 vs the Ravens the last 3 years. Meanwhile Mahomes, Allen, and Hurts torched the Steelers. Those guys scare me. NFL executives can see the same thing I can see.

  84. watsonisaperv says:
    March 8, 2023 at 11:25 am
    Crazy to see all these working class guys side with management. You aretruly boot lickers. Siding with sleazy billionaires, these guys are the ones who we pay to see.

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    It has zero to do with supporting the owners. It’s respecting the salary cap and how much a team can afford to pay a single player and still have enough to field a decent team

  85. Lamar won 15 games the last 2 years. If he gets credit for 2019 now then Baker gets credit for 2020 and Wentz for 2017 so sign one of them for cheap. The NFL is a now league. Nobody cares what you did 4 years ago. Hell, take Cam Newton off the runway in Milan and ditch the foppish hat and go with the 2015 MVP while you are at it.

  86. Let the Ravens stew. They’ve tied up $32 million of their salary cap, and now they’ll have to try and replace Jackson when he refuses to play for that.

    Jackson is getting his money, whether it’s this year or two years from now.

  87. hazydavey says:
    March 8, 2023 at 12:54 pm

    He’s just another good QB. I watch him as a Steeler fan and hope he stays a Raven at $50M per season. He does not scare me. The very mediocre Steelers are 5-1 vs the Ravens the last 3 years. Meanwhile Mahomes, Allen, and Hurts torched the Steelers. Those guys scare me. NFL executives can see the same thing I can see.
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    What a sneaky post. Lamar didn’t play in all of those games, but Steelers do do well against Lamar, but that’s a division games, they should be close. Hope for Lamar to sign all you want, but how many division titles have the Steelers won since Lamar has been in the league? That’s what you need to think about.

  88. I LOVE BIG ( . Y . ) says:
    March 8, 2023 at 10:59 am
    What about Chicago? They have a ton of cap space. If they arent sold on Fields you can trade him away and get something back.
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    And the Bears would have to give up the #1 pick in the draft this year – and their #1 next year – for the privilege of using $50 million of their cap space. What a terrible idea. Baltimore would come out five seconds after the Bears signed him to that offer sheet and say “We’re not matching.”

  89. A QB who makes his living running got injured and refused to be there for his team in the playoffs. Remember when Philip Rivers played for his team in the playoffs with a torn ACL? I would much rather pay a player like Philip Rivers than someone like Lamar Jackson!
    Phillip was in 1 playoff championship game in his career, He lost it. You take him, I’ll take Jackson
    BTY, All those that would take 10% of his next contract to be his agent, raise your hand…. MEEEEEEEEEEE

  90. alan reyes says:
    March 8, 2023 at 12:45 pm

    Huntley, Jackson’s backup, looked about 90% as effective as Jackson in the Harbough offense. Huntley costs 10 million.
    ______________________________

    And lost the division lead both years he took over. What are guys looking at? You can’t make the playoffs winning 40% of your games unless your name is Tom Brady.

  91. “No one wants to admit that he knows what he’s doing and/or he’s actually quite smart.” Considering the untold millions of dollars he’s already lost by not having a long-term contract done a couple of years ago, one might argue that he’s not actually smart at all. It seems like he’s trying to save himself from that agent commission. It’s his money, though/

  92. justsaying says:
    March 8, 2023 at 10:42 am

    If it’s not collusion why aren’t the Colts, Falcons, Commanders, Panthers, or Raiders which all need a quarterback badly at least saying they’d like to meet with Lamar to at least make him a low ball or “fair offer” in their mind? The fact they already slammed the door on it regardless of guaranteed money amount is definitely suspect of collusion.

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    Because the teams know the contract terms Baltimore offered him that Mar turned down.

    They obviously don’t want to pay ore than that as well as have to give up 2 first round picks to do so.

    No need to meet with him if you don’t want to beat Balitmore’s offer AND give up the picks.

  93. LJ’s injury rate & his style of play only looks to get worse as he ages so fully guaranteed contracts won’t be coming his way – & how quickly QB needy teams have ruled him out already shows tha a large dose of reality is coming Lamar’s way. He’s not selfish, he’s not stupid – his egos got the better of him & teams don’t want to do business with someone so out of touch with market value & his own sense of self importance.

  94. alan reyes says:
    March 8, 2023 at 12:45 pm
    Huntley, Jackson’s backup, looked about 90% as effective as Jackson in the Harbough offense. Huntley costs 10 million.
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    Lol thanks for telling us you dont watch. In his career Huntley has thrown for 5 tds with 7 interceptions while also rushing for 3 tds with a starting record of 3-5(0.375 winning percentage) and a career rating of 76.6. He averages 116 yards passing, 30 yards rushing. Now Jackson however is 45-16(0.737 winning percentage) and averages 174 yards passing, 63.4 yards rushing and a rating of 96.7 he’s also thrown 101 tds to 38 interceptions and 24 rushing tds…so by comparison Jackson per game averages 60 more yards passing, doubles his rushing totals, his qb rating is 30! Points higher. Huntley would also have to go 42-11 from here to match Jacksons starting record. As for tds and ints Jackson throws a td 6.1% of his passes and throws and INT at 2.3%, Huntley however throws a td only 1.6% of the time but matches the interceptions at 2.3% soooooo throwing Interceptions is the ONLY thing Huntley has been close to 90% as effective at

  95. When nobody makes an offer for Jackson, I’m curious if the Ravens will reduce their initial offers since Lamar would have no choice but to accept or hold out.

  96. 28Rate This
    krycek21 says:
    March 8, 2023 at 11:35 am
    The example is former Seattle Seahawks Russell Okung who negotiated his own contract with Denver and basically signed a non guaranteed contract because of ignorance of deals. It was 5 year $50 million but actually was only one year with 4 years not guaranteed. Denver did not pick up option te next year.
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    This is a great example of why players need agents. Denver knew what the outcome would be before the ink was dry. Lamar really should hire an agent, for his own good.

  97. At this point I wonder if a good agent will take him as a client. The fee would be nice, but youvare dealing with a client who fundamentally doesn’t want you and probably won’t listen to anything he doesn’t want to hear. This means you have to spend a disproportionate amount of time and constantly fight unnecessary battles.

    Anyone who works as an advisor knows what I’m saying.

  98. If the guy is so ignorant, oblivious or unaware that he doesn’t have a legal agent representative, while negotiating a deal perhaps in the hundreds of millions of dollars..would you just want to hand him that money and lead your team? It’s not a wonder many teams were a hard pass. He simply can’t be very bright.

  99. Agreed that Jackson needs a top-flight agent and the suggestion of Athletes First is a great idea considering they just got Danny Dollahs $82M guaranteed after throwing a total of 15 TDs last season. Getting Dak $40M per wasn’t a bad move either, Lamar should quit focusing on the Watson deal and instead focus on the Kyler Murray deal, Murray got a ridiculous $189M guaranteed for a resume that features 1 clownish performance in a playoff game and several late season drop-offs.

    Give the Ravens/other teams some room, guarantees for Lamar should total about $200M to put distance between Jackson’s deal and that of Murray. Also, the deal can be backloaded to reflect 2 seasons of balloon payment salaries to bump up his annual average to the $45-50M annual range. Also, with the deal not being fully-guaranteed, the NFL Billionaire Boys Club will be able to continue on in their Scrooge McDuck hubris, proudly proclaiming that they avoided starting the trend of fully-guaranteed deals for QBs.

  100. I don’t know why Lamar doesn’t have a agent but it would probably be a good thing to get one now! There’s no way he knows all the in’s and out’s of dealing with management.

  101. It feels like the QB market is, one deal at a time, quietly being reset around the potholes of the insane Watson deal and what Jackson is asking for.

    We’ve seen the back end of the bookends forming with the Smith and Jones deals, which are good compromises between the realities of what teams need to function and good but not overwhelming performance.

    Soon we’ll see the upper tier set with Burrow and Herbert. Burrow has earned the biggest payday with big-game and playoff success and two straight AFCCG appearances. But he doesn’t seem likely to be so me-first that the team can’t pay his supporting cast. I believe that contract will end up being a rational model going forward for top QBs.

    Herbert hasn’t won anything, so if he wants an extension now, I’d say Josh Allen’s deal should be the ceiling for it. The team needs him and there’s no replacing him, but he has yet to prove himself outside of stats. I’d say he and Jackson are in a comparable place today in terms of what they have earned, but Herbert has the upside of not failing to complete two straight seasons.

    Jackson was worth the most in his last complete season; two muddled seasons since have raised questions. He’s already starting out probably $60 million in the hole for not having signed a contract two seasons ago. Going to be a long haul for him to get back the value he’s already lost.

  102. LAMAR IS NOT GOING TO GET FULLY GUARANTEED WITH AN AGENT
    THEN THE AGENT’S GONNA SKIM HIS 10%
    THIS THING NEEDS TO RUN ITS COURSE
    MAYBE HE’LL END UP LOOKING CRAZY LIKE A FOX

  103. Lamar, if you or your people read these comments, make sure you understand that zero people agree with you not having an agent. Whatever money you think you are saving by not having an agent, you are losing millions and your legacy is in doubt. C’mon man.

  104. Saw this on another sports board to day. If it’s true.
    Supposedly he’s already turned down 250 million with 133 million guaranteed so its not like the Ravens are negotiating in bad faith.

  105. Do teams even know how to get a hold of Jackson at this point?

    This is craziness. Like it or not, this is a checkmark against Lamar. He’s being so cheap that he is hurting himself.

    From the team’s perspective. This is a rock and a hard place. Teams always try to get the best deal, even including some sneaky stuff. With Lamar representing himself… are they supposed to protect Lamar from their own interests?

    Lamar has created a mess. That’s on top of the fact that he isn’t going to be as attractive a FA as pundits think.

  106. Isn’t this the same as you insisting the Lions should sign Baker Mayfield? You’ve been shouting about Jackson needing an agent for how long?

  107. Jackson needs to file a lawsuit against the NFLPA for damages with this horrible advice they’re putting in his ear. They are the reason he can’t back down from the fully guaranteed demands. They’re counting on him to set the precedent for all future star players/QB’s so they’re keeping the heat on him to demand the fully guaranteed contract or sit out. It’s appearing to blow up in front of their faces. People will claim collusion but they don’t even need to collude to all collectively come to the conclusion that they don’t want to get into the fully guaranteed contract business.

  108. Correct me if I am wrong; but, until Fres agency starts next week no team can talk to Lamar or talk about Lamar otherwise it could be considered tampering?

  109. You have to wonder about Lamar’s judgment. Homie, you’re trying to wrangle a 200 MILLION DOLLAR CONTRACT. Don’t you think you should maybe have an expert with you? Someone who isn’t “mom?” At this point, I think this is just a situation where he feels he can’t back down. Terrible decision. Get an agent. Get paid. Baltimore flipped the script on you and allowed others to do their negotiating with you.Lamar is completely out of his league.

  110. Lamar Jackson did not need an agent when Baltimore made him quite a lucrative contract offer, he needed someone to tell him to take the money and run. Instead he chose to play the odds and hoped Baltimore or another organization would give him the same stupid money Cleveland gave to Deshaun Watson. Jackson has not made it through the past two seasons and that’s a reason to be skeptical of his durability.

  111. crookedcreek says:
    March 8, 2023 at 2:18 pm
    How long until he plays the race card….

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    People like JJ Watt and Honey Badger are already playing it.
    Strange how both guys have an agent and did not play on fully guaranteed deals.

  112. Good agents just landed Derek Carr, Geno Smith and Daniel Jones lucrative deals worth two-three times what Baltimore is trying to lock him into. He is a better playmaker than all of them. It’s time for him to set his pride aside and let a pro do the work for him. I would go with Don Yee who works quietly behind the scenes and not in front of a microphone and is well respected. That’s my two cents.

  113. If Lamar were to go to Tampa he’d become one of the top 2 or 3 QB’s in the NFC (depends on if Rogers stays in GB). In the loaded AFC Lamar is maybe 6th best (behind Lawrence, Mahommes, Herbert, Burrow, Allen). If Watson plays like he did in Houston, 7th best.

  114. the report this morning on this site was that all the teams were colluding against lamar….exactly how does an agent change this?
    .

  115. I am all for shorter term guaranteed contracts. Maybe some team will take a chance on him and offer a 5 year guarantee. It is not likely to match the albatross Cleveland gave to Watson. He is in a very different spot than Cousins. He is a running QB coming off back to back seasons he didn’t finish. The Ravens made the correct call in my opinion and Lamar will either play for 32 million or sit out. If he doesn’t get an offer sheet this is going to blow up in his face

  116. dirtysouthironmen says:
    March 8, 2023 at 3:05 pm
    Correct me if I am wrong; but, until Fres agency starts next week no team can talk to Lamar or talk about Lamar otherwise it could be considered tampering?

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    Incorrect. Non-exclusive tag means he can go out and negotiate with any other team. If they offer, Baltimore can choose to match and sign him or let him walk and get two first round picks.

  117. If that mediocre giant Jones is valuable at 40 million yes lamar you are worth 50 million per guaranteed.

  118. man, it’s getting really difficult to blame anybody else but the player at this point.

    He may have some valid reasons to not have an agent but he’s getting played like a fiddle reputation-wise in the offseason and no team in place to help his cause.

  119. nite2al says:
    March 8, 2023 at 11:11 am
    necessaryroughness says:
    March 8, 2023 at 10:50 am
    Teams are coming to the realization that you either have a quarterback capable of winning a Super Bowl, or you don’t. And Lamar Jackson is not capable of winning a super bowl. So why tie up so much of your cap with an asset that can’t deliver the objective?
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    And how exactly would you know this? Especially in a team sport and where only Mahomes wins more games than Lamar. These types of statements always get me. Was Marino capable of winning a SB? Was Dilfer? One did and one didn’t and not the better one. So, is Allen, Herbert, Hurts, Burrow capable? Well, at this point, they’re all in the same boat as Lamar, ringless.
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    I don’t “know” this. It’s my feeling based on observation. He has a 68.3 passer rating in the playoffs in his career. Is he a good player, yes, absolutely. Can you win games with him? Yes, you clearly can. But to this point he’s come up very small in the playoffs. And that’s usually, in my estimation, a good indicator of the ability to ever win the big one.

  120. Levin Bell: “Watch me and my arrogance squander a mass fortune.”
    Lamar: “Hold my beer.”

  121. Question: Would it make sense for a team without a QB to offer him a one year high-paying deal with no franchise tag option after the season is over?

    Let’s say you’re the Jets. You do $47M, one year and no tag. The potential outcomes include: the Ravens sign him and he becomes a free agent next year where you could end up signing him and pairing him with his desired head coach, he does well and you feel confident giving him a long-term deal or he fails and you completely rebuild in 2024.

    I think this option makes a lot of sense for the Jets, Falcons, Colts, Texans, Panthers, Buccaneers, Cardinals and maybe a few others.

  122. Re: Allen, I’ve seen him play some incredible football in the playoffs at the highest level, so yes, I think he’s capable. Re: Hurts, I just watched him put on an incredible performance in the Super Bowl. If they could play any defense at all in the second half, he has a ring. I haven’t watched enough Herbert to make a judgment. Burrow has reached a Super Bowl and multiple AFC championship games, playing well. Dan Marino is a hall of famer and one of the best passers in the history of the game, so yes, he was capable. Dilfer…Brad Johnson…Hostetler? The exception, not the norm.

  123. Each day that Lamar goes unsigned he loses making investments on his signing bonus potentially above $25,000,000. Lamar is taking this negotiation personally when its a major business deal.

  124. Huntley, Jackson’s backup, looked about 90% as effective as Jackson in the Harbough offense. Huntley costs 10 million.

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    Plus, with Huntley, you have money left over to build a better team around him.

  125. For the last 20-25 years the Ravens, along with the Patriots and Steelers have proven to be the NFL’s smartest teams; it can be argued the Steelers for the past 50 years. The Ravens rightfully have NO intention of paying Jackson anywhere what he thinks he’s worth ($45M), and fully guaranteed, or what the less bright teams in the NFL, the Browns, the Cardinals, the Giants have now paid their QBs. What the Ravens have done recently has been obvious for the last 12 months. The Ravens execs go to sleep every night praying someone will sign him and they will collect 2 first round picks, plus have their own, move up and grab a long-term QB. I luv to watch Jackson play, but reality is that QBs like him have about a 5 yr shelf life, name one “running” QB that has lasted into even his early 30’s. Perhaps you can argue Russell Wilson but he’s a scrambler, hardly ever took a hard hit, yet now that his legs are failing him, look at him now. The truth is, 100 yrs ago, 100 yrs from now, today, while mobility is nice, consistently accurate passing from the pocket is a MUST for true championship level QBs. The Ravens don’t do stupid moves. They will not sign Jackson to anywhere close to the contract he’s asking for. Why? It’s what smart teams do.

  126. blkpurp says:
    LAMAR IS NOT GOING TO GET FULLY GUARANTEED WITH AN AGENT
    THEN THE AGENT’S GONNA SKIM HIS 10%.
    ========================================
    Agents don’t get 10%.. Not even close. Try 3%.

  127. Plus, with Huntley, you have money left over to build a better team around him.
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    The Ravens have the 2nd ranked o-line. 3rd ranked defense. They have an elite TE and good HBs. The only position of need is WR… but that’s difficult, because WRs don’t want to play in the gimmick offense. They’ve had a good team with Lamar on the rookie deal.

    I agree with your concept. They could maintain the quality of their team with an affordable QB. What they can’t do is splurge on Lamar and maintain the quality throughout the team. Whether people realize it or not, the gimmick offense is dependent upon a good defense, blocking, and special teams.

  128. necessaryroughness says:
    March 8, 2023 at 4:38 pm

    Re: Allen, I’ve seen him play some incredible football in the playoffs at the highest level, so yes, I think he’s capable. Re: Hurts, I just watched him put on an incredible performance in the Super Bowl. If they could play any defense at all in the second half, he has a ring. I haven’t watched enough Herbert to make a judgment. Burrow has reached a Super Bowl and multiple AFC championship games, playing well. Dan Marino is a hall of famer and one of the best passers in the history of the game, so yes, he was capable. Dilfer…Brad Johnson…Hostetler? The exception, not the norm.
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    Good pint on all. I saw Lamar comeback from double digits down in the playoffs on the road. That told me all I need to know. Plus, he is among the NFL leaders in 4th quarter comebacks. And winning 75% of your games, how can you count this guy out, but include the others? He is used to winning. He put up 500 total yards in a playoff loss. But when Brady does it, all you say is Brady should have won, great game by Brady. At every turn, you guys give Lamar absolutely no credit for anything. Start Huntley? The Ravens are losers with Huntley! As a Ravens fan, I don’t want that. I believe Lamar is capable just like the other guys. I think many QBs are capable, Goff, Jones, even Geno. These guys don’t fold under pressure, but you need the pieces around them. It’s a team sport! Sounds like you guy are looking for a QB competition. Ah, he won that, it was the MVP. We can say who’s capable all day long, until it happens, it’s just opinion.

  129. prophessor4 says:
    March 8, 2023 at 11:41 am
    i cant agree with some on here claiming he cant win a superbowl. he’s won games in this league. i’d say with pieces around them and with a good defense and fortuitous situations theres 20 qbs who could win a superbowl.

    He’s won games in the regular season, he’s lost 3/4 games in the postseason. Good teams know how to defend Lamar, hence the lack of success in the postseason.
    “With pieces around them and with a good defense and fortuitous situations”? That’s asking for a lot. How do you put all that in place when your QB wants $45M guaranteed? Besides, if 20 QBs could win a Super Bowl with the surrounding cast you mentioned, you wouldn’t need a QB making near top $. Derek Carr, Geno Smith, Jared Goff would all be considered top 20 QBs and all are much cheaper than Lamar.

  130. Lamar Jackson’s problems with the contract are all his problems he created the problem by asking for fully guaranteed, then you have some of these morons on TV saying everybody else is getting paid pay him, however everybody else isn’t asking for fully guaranteed!

  131. You have a talented QB. But much of that comes from his ability to run. That doesn’t last and he’s starting to get hurt. So do you give him $250M guaranteed? Not if you’re smart.

  132. If Lamar Jackson is ever feeling depressed, all he has to do is take a look at his bank account balance. That will cure what ails ya.

  133. He’ll have an agent within a week. And quit badmouthing the Browns/Haslam. Any QB who starts for a team 5 years pretty much has a 100% guaranteed contract.

  134. txdr says:
    March 8, 2023 at 5:16 pm

    For the last 20-25 years the Ravens, along with the Patriots and Steelers have proven to be the NFL’s smartest teams; it can be argued the Steelers for the past 50 years. The Ravens rightfully have NO intention of paying Jackson anywhere what he thinks he’s worth ($45M), and fully guaranteed, or what the less bright teams in the NFL, the Browns, the Cardinals, the Giants have now paid their QBs. What the Ravens have done recently has been obvious for the last 12 months. The Ravens execs go to sleep every night praying someone will sign him and they will collect 2 first round picks, plus have their own, move up and grab a long-term QB. I luv to watch Jackson play, but reality is that QBs like him have about a 5 yr shelf life, name one “running” QB that has lasted into even his early 30’s. Perhaps you can argue Russell Wilson but he’s a scrambler, hardly ever took a hard hit, yet now that his legs are failing him, look at him now. The truth is, 100 yrs ago, 100 yrs from now, today, while mobility is nice, consistently accurate passing from the pocket is a MUST for true championship level QBs. The Ravens don’t do stupid moves. They will not sign Jackson to anywhere close to the contract he’s asking for. Why? It’s what smart teams do.
    _____________________________

    Ah, hello. The Ravens made Flacco the highest paid QB in the league, not once, but twice! And haven’t won anything since, not so smart. I had no problem with paying them JF the first time, he won a chip, reward him, but the second time? I guess you didn’t watch the playoffs or the SB this year, the guy that won, did it with his legs. It’s a new NFL. They took the running back out of the picture, so it’s all on the QB now. If you can’t extend plays with your legs, you are done. The dinosaur, sit in the pocket, Brady days are over just like I predicted 4 years ago. Don’t Lamar let go to the NFC. Both he and Hurts would rule the NFC Championship game for years to come.

  135. Lamar Jackson is a joke. Who would want to sign this guy? He had his Cam Newton season and he was 1 and done as the #1 seed vs the Titans. The rest of his career will be riddled with injuries. The last 2 seasons he’s been remarkably unimpressive and he missed a third of the season both years.

  136. LOL, during Lamar’s career he has 7 GWDs in 65 starts. Nick Foles has 6 in only 23 games during Lamar’s career. Stafford has 13. Mahomes has 17. Brady had 19. Matt Ryan has 11. Daniel Jones has 9. Kirk Cousins has 17, including 8 last year. Goff has 13. Burrow already has 9. Herbert already has 11. Josh Allen has 15. Andy Dalton has 9 in 53 starts (regular season and playoffs combined for all players) Lamar is one of the worst at GWDs and comebacks.

  137. It is debatable that Lamar “needs” an agent. Agents will say he needs an agent because that is how agents make a living. But no player is required to have an agent. Lamar knows his own value and what he wants and is a fully formed adult man in charge of his own destiny. Suggesting that Jackson needs help is basically demeaning him as an individual. Let him make his own decisions. Moreover, the NFLPA is there as a resource if he thinks he needs it on the technical issues and they don’t charge a commission. In fact, even with an agent, the PA insists on seeing any Player Contract before it is signed.

  138. He is the George Costanza of NFL negotiating. We know how that turned out!!!

  139. justsaying says:
    March 8, 2023 at 10:42 am
    elvoid says:
    March 8, 2023 at 10:28 am
    For as wrong as Florio is about the collusion issue, he’s absolutely right about this one.

    A good agent would get Lamar the best contract possible. That’s what they do.

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    If it’s not collusion why aren’t the Colts, Falcons, Commanders, Panthers, or Raiders which all need a quarterback badly at least saying they’d like to meet with Lamar to at least make him a low ball or “fair offer” in their mind? The fact they already slammed the door on it regardless of guaranteed money amount is definitely suspect of collusion.

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    Because they cannot afford the cap hit and are in semi rebuilds. Or maybe they know that if he accepts an offer that Baltimore will match it and are just waiting for someone else to do the work. Then again it could be because he is overrated already, missed multiple games the last two years and is not a very accurate passer or decision maker. To put it simply, it is not collusion. It lack of confusion and a bit of common sense shared by GMs who no better.

  140. Does anyone know what Lamar actually wants? He hasn’t talked about it publicly and obviously the Ravens haven’t figured it out either. As he can‘t talk to other teams yet, nobody really knows. A very confusing, but entertaining situation for football fans. I doubt he really gets what he wants, because his bet on himself failed as he got injured and showed to everybody which problems he can create for franchise and no franchise needs that, especially the desperate one. He’s talented, but availability is still the most important ability in this game, especially if you are looking for a high end contract. Combined with the fact that he doesn’t have an agent it’s a headache for each franchise that is looking for a QB. As long as there are enough reasonable QBs out there the teams rather get one of the less talented ones, who do not create a mess like Lamar. He’s not doing himself a favor.

  141. The Carolina Panthers traded 2 firsts and a #1 receiver and other stuff..rather than get Lamar…that tells you all you need to know. yes..maybe Lamar should get an agent rather than his mom..

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