Packers want first-round pick and more for Aaron Rodgers

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The Jets want Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers wants the Jets. The Packers don’t want Aaron Rodgers. This should be easy to resolve, right?

It’s not. The Packers want a lot for Rodgers. They want more than they should, frankly. The Jets believe the Packers are being unreasonable.

Per multiple sources, the Packers want a first-round pick and more from the Jets for Rodgers.

The Packers want more than a first-round pick as part of the base deal. They want protection in 2025, in the event Rodgers plays in 2024. And that’s more than the Jets believe they should surrender for a player the Packers no longer want.

If the Jets are willing to offer something like a conditional package that would entail as much as a second-round pick this year and up to a second-round pick next year, the Packers would be nuts to not take it.

Frankly, it feels personal at this point, and that’s no surprise. Rodgers reportedly wanted Packers G.M. Brian Gutekunst to be fired a couple of years ago, something Rodgers never really tried to refute. Now, two years later, Gutekunst has a chance to exact a little revenge — and so he is.

The problem for the Packers is that, the longer they drag their feet, the more pissed off (and in turn motivated) Rodgers will be to have a great season in 2023. He already has sold himself on the narrative that the Packers wanted him back after the season before something changed, even though he later contradicted himself on the notion that he believed the Packers wanted him back when 2022 concluded.

The NFL, like many businesses, is driven by deadlines. The challenge becomes determining a deadline for this trade. As previously mentioned, the Packers are willing to wait until the draft. The ultimate deadline, if we take it to the extreme, is Week One, at which point his $58.3 million option bonus becomes guaranteed base salary if not exercised.

For the Jets, what’s the deadline? There’s a desire to get it done now. But do they need Rodgers now? Do they need him for the start of the offseason program? He knows the system, given his connection to offensive coordinator Nathaniel Hackett. Given Rodgers’s recent habit of skipping OTAs, maybe the Jets should take the position that the real deadline is the opening of training camp.

Regardless, unless someone blinks, the deal isn’t happening now. Given what the Packers currently want, it’s definitely not happening. They’ll need to move toward New York’s position.

And here’s the question. With no owner in Green Bay, who’s in position to tell the front office to give a little in order to get rid of a guy they no longer want?

269 responses to “Packers want first-round pick and more for Aaron Rodgers

  1. The Packers should fleece the Jets for everything that they can get. The NY/NJ media has already bought into this Rodgers to NYJ fiasco, so all the pressure is on the Jets to pay whatever it costs to secure Rodgers.

  2. Packers are delusional and Jets might of overplayed this a bit. When is that 56 mil due? Jets have up until that day then they get there guy regardless.

  3. If Rodgers is an all time great how is asking for a 1st plus unreasonable? Unless Rodgers is way past his prime……

  4. He can just pull a Favre. Retire come back in training camp and drop the 60mill cap bomb. Grow up cheeseheads and trade the guy.

  5. If the packers don’t accept a much more reasonable offer the Jets should walk away. Rodgers will retire and the packers get nothing for him. Maybe that’s what Gute really wants so he avoids the embarrassment of Rodgers going to the Jets and having a great season.

  6. This isn’t just bad for the teams involved. This is bad for NFL business in general.

  7. LOL!

    This is about GB’s dead money. If they deal him in June, it’s far less than now. They should just wait and then wait for a team to have a qb injury.

    A little surprised SF isn’t on this. Lynch is flailing away with his wildly inconsistent team build, so why not tease that?

  8. Rodgers still holds some cards here. Doesn’t he have an NTC?

    He can make it very clear in public that if a deal isn’t done by XXX date that he’s no longer going to approve a trade and that he’s more than willing to sit on the bench and collect his 60M.

  9. “With no owner in Green Bay, who’s in position to tell the front office to give a little in order to get rid of a guy they no longer want?”
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    Mark Murphy rules the roost in GB no different than any owner would. In fact the “What Changed” part that Aaron refers to is probably Murph telling Gutey he’s had it with Rodgers dragging out his decision. He wanted an answer by the time the NFL Combine started and he didn’t get it. It is what it is,……….

  10. So they keep a guy that won’t play for them and pay a ton to make it happen. Green Bay only hurts themselves by doing that. Take a 2nd and move on. But I’m not a Packer fan so I’ll just sit over here with my popcorn.😂

  11. I don’t understand saying the Packers should accept less than what Rodgers is worth. How much is a 4-time MVP QB worth? If the Jets want him bad enough, go get him.

    If the jets think he’s not worth the asking price, doesn’t that mean the jets are holding things up?

    It’s their own stupidity that they went all in on Rodgers without knowing the cost. When is the last time you test drove a BMW and honestly thought you’d get it for a Toyota Corolla price?

  12. Jets should tell the Packers either take our fair offer today or my next call is to Lamar Jackson, who is 14 years younger and while expensive in terms of draft picks, atleast we know we’ll have him for multiple peak years

  13. They’re going to need a lot more than that to overcome how bad Jordan Love is going to be….

  14. for all the crap AR put the Pack through..as they what goes around comes around.. GO PACK drag your feet for as long as you can..

  15. The Packers will determine the comp, or Rodgers can retire or back-up Love in GB. Simple.

  16. The tampering should have been done and a deal reached long before the illegal tampering period. That’s what it’s come done to.

  17. I don’t believe Rodgers an NTC – but did you listen to the McAfee show yesterday? Of course this is personal on both sides – it’s a publicly played out divorce of sorts. It was kind of sad listening to him shift from complimenting the staff there in GB and all his good memories and then going to the negative energy. Carolina just spent two #1’s and a valuable asset at WR just to move up 8 spots. For a guy that hasn’t played a down?! So why is it unreasonable for GB to use some leverage here? I’m a GB fan and I’m pretty angry at Gute/Murphy for a number of draft pick failures and excuses. But some of this is on Aaron too? I’m looking forward to a new chapter next year with Jordan. I was glad Aaron complimented him because Aaron WAS him back in 2005-2008.

  18. Rodgers is supposed to be the final piece for SB contention, yet a 1st rd pick is too much. Make it make sense.

  19. The Packers should get a first round pick, Elijah Moore, and at least two other second round picks. Minimum. Jets can enjoy Zach Wilson and Mike White if not.

  20. The Packers have the Jets over a barrel. You want Rodgers? Give us what we want. If not you can sign Teddy Bridgewater, Carson Wentz or who ever is still looking for work. As for Rodgers? He gave the Packers headaches for years. Payback is a bitch baby.

  21. Rodgers is going to wind up being released if the jets back out. R-E-L-A-X and be patient Jets. Prepare for the bidding war with San Fran for Arodge’s services this summer.

  22. Collect your money the morons signed you to and hold the clipboard til they give in.

  23. Yeah and I want to marry Scarlett Johanssen and that isn’t going to happen either. Jets should just wait the Packers out. No one else is bidding so Packers will eventually have to fold.

  24. The only ones in a hurry for this to be decided is the Media. That’s it; that’s all.

  25. It’s worth noting that Rodgers won an MVP two years ago and could conceivably do the same thing again on a more talented team. The notion that the Packers should simply give him away because they don’t want him is silly. He fleeced them for a massive raise last year, now he’s stuck as a Packer until they decide he isn’t one. I wouldn’t give away a guy that could go win an MVP, even if I didn’t need him.

  26. The good thing about Mr. Florio is that he changes his opinion when he steps back and analyzes a situation. He is starting to figure out that when GB showed their cards as they allowed ARod to talk to another team, and then publicly stated ARod is not in their 2023 plans, that equated to having zero leverage.

  27. All these Packers haters thinking it’s unreasonable, including the Minnesota Vikings fan who wrote the article. Hilarious. The greatest of all-time for one unproven draft pick? Please. Enjoy Zach Wilson and Mike White New York!

  28. I live in Green Bay and I can’t believe the fans here can still even root for this organization.

    35 years of Hall of Fam QB play with 2 Super Bowls to show for it, and they alienated both of them on their way out. Since Wolf and Holmgren left this franchise has been carried by HOF QBs with a front office that gives themselves way more credit than they deserve.

    They need to flush them all and start from scratch, but with no owner to answer to it will never happen. It’s become the biggest ol’ boys club in the NFL, and they are all about to get a real taste of reality with Jordan Love as their starting QB. Going to be really fun to watch it all collapse.

  29. It hurts the team if it’s not done before the draft because they need 2023 picks to improve the roster, even if they don’t get a first round pick. However, for all of us suffering fans, this needs to be done as soon as possible because I’m tired of hearing about it.

  30. Lifelong Packer fan perspective. If Rodgers wants to use this as a chip to go win a Super Bowl with the Jets, more power to him. If the Packers want to maximize their trade value by starting high and negotiating down. More power to them. They’ve got the time. And let’s not be naive and think either side (Packers or Rodgers) owes either side anything right now. For a few years they are about to be on different teams. It’s football. 5-10 years from now they’ll retire his jersey at Lambeau.

  31. The nail was hit on the proverbial head, the more P.O.ed Rodgers is, the better he will play. When he’s been relatively content over the last 5 years, he hasn’t been very good. When he feels slighted, he’s MVP caliber.

  32. “You can’t always get what you want”

    – Mick Jagger & Keith Richards

  33. The Packers should not soften their demands. Worse case scenario the trade doesn’t get done, they tell Rodgers he is going to be the backup. Rodgers will retire and they get out of a $60 mil cap hit. The Jets have painted themselves into a corner, the Packers should take advantage of it. Before completing this trade the Jets should do a little research on how well 40 year old QBs play. BTW, Brady is the exception, not the rule.

  34. Packers hater wants GB to take a D2 and conditional D2 in return for a 1st ballot HoFer who’s won two of the past three MVPs. Got it.

    In Gute I trust.

  35. lol – you want everyone to wait around and let Lord Rodgers decide what he’s going to do, then demand GB hurry up and deal him for peanuts when he finally decides what he wants to do.

  36. blizzardwarning says:
    March 16, 2023 at 10:24 am
    The Packers will determine the comp, or Rodgers can retire or back-up Love in GB. Simple.

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    As they should. Woody Johnson is just a complete moron. That’s why it’s like this. When you’re born into money and literally have no business experience or negotiating skills, this is what it looks like.

    Clearly, the Jets passive-aggressive moves to sign GB guys, or to even have the public KNOW they met with Rodgers and for “Sauce” Gardner to be announcing “packages” the next day after the meeting, is the ultimate Jets kinda behavior. Classic.

    I don’t blame GB for being annoyed. For them to take on a drastic hit in dead money as opposed to waiting until June 1, they need proper compensation.

    My guess is the Jets don’t want to give up a 1st rder and more because they’ve been botching 1st rders left and right as always.

  37. So the jets signed the receivers minus the most talented one that Rodgers already lost with. And now they won’t have a first round pick also.

    Jebus.

  38. Rodgers believes he want win another MVP. The Jets believe he can win them a SB. The Packers should be asking for the moon. If Stafford is worth so much for one ring, then Rodgers should be worth far more, as he has always been the better QB. “Unreasonable” is a matter of perspective. The trade bar was set for players like Stafford and Watson anything less than a first rounder would be a steal for the Jets.

  39. Screw that. I walk away right now if I’m NY. GB wants NY to absorb a $60 million mistake and give up their #1? As a Pats fan I hope NY does it. As a sane individual there is no way in hell if I’m NY.

  40. Haha!! GB lost all its leverage when their president allowed Rodgers to seek a trade and the nail in the coffin was when the president said they didn’t want Rodgers back.

  41. I don’t understand saying the Packers should accept less than what Rodgers is worth
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    Rodgers counts $155millon on the Packers cap the next 3 seasons.

    $99mil dead cap if they cut him this season, resulting in a $60mil cap hit for 2024.

    Getting out from under that contract should be their biggest concern.

    Its only a $40mil hit to trade him now.

  42. Green Bay doesnt have to do anything.

    They have their next QB. They dont need to trade Rodgers. Let him sit for 2 years. Sure they have to pay him, and its a ton yes of course, but I say sit tight. Make the Jets sweat. They traded mike white already and need Rodgers waaaay more than the Pack does

  43. If I’m the Jets I’d say ‘We’re out, thanks for your time’. Someone earlier mentioned Jackson, or I’d call Minshew, Ryan, Marriotta – somebody to get you through this year to next when there is a better draft class for QB’s. The Jets have assembled a nice team, don’t stunt the future for this clown who probably won’t even get you out of the AFC let alone win you a Super Bowl.

  44. How is asking for this year’s 1st round pick and more delusional? If the Jet’s believe Rodgers is capable of taking them to the Super Bowl this year isn’t that worth a first? As for next year, that can all be conditional. If Rodgers is successful, I do believe that he plays 3 more years. The Broncos were rumored to offer GB 3 firsts last year so tell me how a fist this year and a conditional first or second next year is too much? The Jet’s have no leverage here. There are no other options out there close to Rodgers.

  45. romeisfallingagain says:
    March 16, 2023 at 10:31 am
    I live in Green Bay and I can’t believe the fans here can still even root for this organization.

    35 years of Hall of Fam QB play with 2 Super Bowls to show for it, and they alienated both of them on their way out. Since Wolf and Holmgren left this franchise has been carried by HOF QBs with a front office that gives themselves way more credit than they deserve.

    They need to flush them all and start from scratch, but with no owner to answer to it will never happen. It’s become the biggest ol’ boys club in the NFL, and they are all about to get a real taste of reality with Jordan Love as their starting QB. Going to be really fun to watch it all collapse.

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    You can’t blame the organization. It’s on the player. These are adults.

    Here’s what happens:

    GB is a football bubble. Everyone who plays for GB can’t do wrong. You people are unbelievable homers. Great fans, but amazing homers.

    In that bubble lives the butt kissed QB. This would be like the SS for the Yankees or something where the fans just drool over the player and never admit the player did a thing wrong ever.

    Or,……….WHat happened to Brady. So, this beast is created, the player thinks they’re infallible and they become a narcissist.

    Once that happens, the player is done. Kaput. They can’t be coached, reasoned with, or be held accountable.

    That’s on the adult human, not the organization.

  46. jtp13 says:
    March 16, 2023 at 10:30 am
    All these Packers haters thinking it’s unreasonable, including the Minnesota Vikings fan who wrote the article. Hilarious. The greatest of all-time for one unproven draft pick? Please. Enjoy Zach Wilson and Mike White New York!

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    The greatest of all time? Yeah sure, if you’ve only watched Packer games and don’t follow the NFL. this is just one reason why Packer fans are continually ridiculed by the other 31 fanbases

  47. What if the Jets give a first and say a second next year. Then he plays a year and decides to sit in the dark and retire. So many unknowns with the delicate genius that it’s just a huge gamble. And unfortunately the Jets don’t have a plan B and it will be a sh#show in GB if he stays.

  48. It’s a simple standoff. GB realizes nobody else wants him and is jacking up the price. NY realizes they are the only team interested and wants GB to lower the price. You can ask whatever you want when selling something, but if you have a limited pool of buyers, you kind of have to get close to the best offer you receive. Either that or sit and wait & hope another buyer emerges.

  49. 35 years of Hall of Fam QB play with 2 Super Bowls to show for it, and they alienated both of them on their way out. Since Wolf and Holmgren left this franchise has been carried by HOF QBs with a front office that gives themselves way more credit than they deserve.
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    The Sherman-era never should have happened.

    We all see Thompson for what he is now.

    This regime is writing their legacy presently. Looks like more of the same.

    Imagine what their legacy might be if the Bears made a couple more plays in 2010……

  50. “The greatest of all-time for one unproven draft pick?”

    I must have missed the part where Tom Brady signed with the Packers

  51. I wouldn’t give more than a six pack of Pepsi and a case of Doritos for this guy. If the Jets go through with this trade, their franchise will be ruined for hyears to come.

  52. The Packers should reach out to the Panters, Dolphins, and Titans and offer Rodgers up for less. I’m sure the Panther’s would love to bring him in for a year to help mentor their new quarterback for one year if the Packer’s paid half his salary. The Dolphins might even have a better chance of winning the Super Bowl this year with Rodgers. Offer him up for cheap, along with a portion of his salary. This would most likely lead to one of two outcomes. One is that Rodgers decides to retire at which point it would dramatically lower their cap hit for 2023 as they can spread it out over 2024. Second, is that the Jet’s get nervous that they have competition for Rodgers and pay whatever GB wants. The Packers have all the leverage over the Jet’s on this one so they should get what they want or take nothing but get the cap relief. A second or third is not worth it to see him get a chance to win a Super Bowl with another team.

  53. GB has no reason to take less. Jets are pot committed and the huge roster bonus doesn’t need to be executed until week 1. The longer they wait the more stuck NY gets.

  54. I’d would only give up a 2nd for him. I’d even wait until the deadline for his salary to be guaranteed if that’s what it takes. Packers of course want a lot and it makes sense to try, but I doubt they get much at all considering his age and salary.

    If jets stay patient they’ll get him at a bargain. Packers definitely not paying him 60mil to ride bench

  55. It does sound like the Packers are trying to make it sting out of spite. If a team is ready to move on then they should move on, seems simple enough. The Jets would be fools to overpay, though. They should take their ball and go home if the Packers keep this up because the pressure is all on the Packers. They have a solid offer for a player they don’t want and keeping him only creates a bigger mess with team chemistry and what they’re going to pay him. It’s business, leave the emotion at the door and do what’s best for the team.

  56. The Packers don’t need to bend, the Jets are the ones pinned in a corner. They have no backup plan, the NY media has been talking for 3 days like he’s a Jet already and the fan base will burn down the stadium if it doesn’t happen at this point. If Rodgers is still an MVP caliber QB like Jets fans/media/Rodgers all think he is than a 1st is a completely reasonable ask.

  57. Would give a 2nd and a 5th at most. No one else is interested in AR12 and if he were to return to the Packers they would never know what Jordan love is capable of. But to trade more than a 2nd for overpaid 39-year-old QB is just insane. It’s a one maybe two year rental

  58. Jets should tell the Packers either take our fair offer today or my next call is to Lamar Jackson, who is 14 years younger and while expensive in terms of draft picks, atleast we know we’ll have him for multiple peak years

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    You are delusional. The Jets are not going to give up two first round picks for a QB who is injured half the time.

  59. Rodgers and the jets have all the leverage with that kind of cap number. Jets and ridgers can wait until week 1 and he can get up to speed within 4 games and be healthy for the gawd awful number of regular season games after that.

  60. Past performance is not indicative of future results. And in this case you don’t even know how many years until he retires. Plus he is being paid big money. That’s why a 1st rounder is too high. A third seems fair.

  61. charlsong1 says:
    March 16, 2023 at 10:23 am
    I don’t understand saying the Packers should accept less than what Rodgers is worth
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    If you and your neighbor have identical houses, and your neighbor just sold his for $500k, but the best offer on your house is $450k, your house is worth…..$450k.

  62. AR has no say in the compensation, unless it has something tied into his contract. But he has no say in what picks get traded. And what do the Packers care how pissed off AR gets for “dragging” it out? If he plays great in NY, so be it. It doesn’t affect GB at all.

  63. andyk says:
    March 16, 2023 at 10:41 am
    Anyone saying Rodgers isnt worth a 1st Round pick AND more simply doesnt know football.
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    Since nobody is offering the Packers a first round pick, that would include every nfl team. So far, not a single person outside of Green Bay thinks he is worth what you say he is worth.

  64. 100% no to a first round pick. The Packers have almost no leverage here. Rodgers could retire or the Jets could move on to someone different. Cut your losses, and use the Favre trade as a guide and let the LOVE era (or maybe just year) begin.

  65. Packers honestly just need to move on. I don’t think they’re helping themselves by dragging this on. Don’t really see them making moves to help the team otherwise.

  66. And a big warm welcome for a return appearance by the Three Stooges! Hands together please for Moe, Larry and Curly!

  67. I love Rodgers. he is the best I have ever seen play the position. I have loved his time in Green Bay. The Packers can wait until the 1st game of the season before they have to do anything. Can the Jets. At that time, if the Packers dont get what they want then they can cut him free. Then the Jets will have competition. San Fran for sure and probably a little more. Let San Fran enter the fray and watch how quickly Rodgers would change his desires. The Packers may not get a 3rd of 4th rnd draft choice at that time but I would rather them sit on him until then rather than give him away for less than he is worth.

  68. Wait until a team has an injury at QB is a ridiculous plan when the QB you agreed to pay $100+ million over 2 seasons can block ANY trade.

  69. This is happens when a team doesn’t have an owner to step in and stop the stupidity.

    It’s a $100,000,000 game of chicken that the Packers are playing. No organization should take on that level of risk.

  70. You can’t blame the organization. It’s on the player. These are adults.
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    Packers management is the reason this team hasn’t won more Super Bowls.

    Sherman had no business being GM. ENOURMOUS mistake. His top personnel man (Mark Hatley) passed away, that needs to be mentioned. But Wolf and Harlan never should have gone down this road.

    Ted Thompsons draft only model was ridiculous. You can’t build that way in this era. If not for Aaron Rodgers, his teams wouldn’t have been .500

    I’m not willing to pass final judgement on this regime until we see Love play.

    The current situation, and their handling of Rodgers since 2019 is an absolute joke. As you’ve said yourself, the contract is an unmitigated disaster.

    The mistakes are undeniable.

  71. NathanGau says:
    March 16, 2023 at 10:21 am
    Rodgers still holds some cards here. Doesn’t he have an NTC?

    He can make it very clear in public that if a deal isn’t done by XXX date that he’s no longer going to approve a trade and that he’s more than willing to sit on the bench and collect his 60M.

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    Nope. There is no “no trade” clause in Rodgers contract.

  72. “They want more than they should frankly”. Thats funny. Its every day business.

  73. Yes, Rodgers is up there in age. But the guy won MVP just over a season ago. He can still play. And we see what he can do when he’s actually motivated (see what he did after they drafted Jordan Love). He has the motivation to be in NY and, i believe, will be damn good for them. He’s absolutely worth a first rounder, especially if the Jets perform in the top half of all teams after they get him. Multiple first rounders is steep, I admit. But one pick is definitely reasonable.

  74. KnowsMoreThanYou says:
    March 16, 2023 at 10:50 am
    charlsong1 says:
    March 16, 2023 at 10:23 am
    I don’t understand saying the Packers should accept less than what Rodgers is worth
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    If you and your neighbor have identical houses, and your neighbor just sold his for $500k, but the best offer on your house is $450k, your house is worth…..$450k.

    Not true. I am an appraiser. If two houses next door to each other are identical and one just sold for $500k then the one next door if it is the same model mathch is worth every bit as much regardless of the offers. And if someone is offering 50k less for the exact house then they have not done their due dilgence And as an owner of the 2nd house, i would tell the buyer to pound sand.

  75. They want more than they should, frankly

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    LOL! Lamar Jackson demands a guaranteed $250M contract and you call it collusion when no one bites on that fantastically crazy demand. Yet somehow the GB asking for a 1st rounder + more for a HOF QB with plenty of gas left in the tank is asking for too much?

    The Jets, and Rodgers put themselves in this position. The Jets lost all leverage by letting Mr Drama Queen drag it out while he meditated in his cave and then they ran out and signed Lazard for him. Rodgers acted like a 14 year old mean-girl up in GB and now thinks they should cater to his whims.

    Green Bay holds all the cards. If I were them I’d be shopping him around to every QB needy team in the league.

  76. i don’t see how the Packers have any leverage whatsoever ever here. I mean we all know they no longer want him and they have no other suitors outside of the Jets for his services. It would be something if the Jets changed their minds and went after Lamar.

  77. Not that the FO and Rodgers are on good terms now but this could possibly tear into his legacy. I can definitely seeing this olay a big part down the line whereas the Pack want to retire his number and Rodgers tells them to get bent I’m not stepping foot back into lambeau, causing a riff between management and the fans. Lots of petty things have been done between the two over the years, just put it to bed and let everyone move on. Holding out for another 3rd or 4th round pick really worth it at this point?

  78. Everyone knows I’m a Packer fan,… what I believe is reasonable compensation,… swap 1st round picks this year 15 and 13. Packers get the Jets 2nd and 4th round picks in the 2023 draft and a 3rd round pick in 2024 that can improve to a 2nd based on Jets and Rodgers stats and record in the 2023 season. Maybe there’s a Jets player that could be available to the Packers in lieu of a pick.

  79. Right this minute it’s the Packers who are in the driver’s seat in terms on LEVERAGE since the jets are the team who currently feel they have a ready-made team to Contend and is just a good QB away. It’s the jets who went and hire Hackett in hopes to lure Rodger’s plus they just went out and got WR Lazard in free agency who they wouldn’t have brought in otherwise.

    So the packers can win this game of chicken if it comes to that where I would ask for TWO 1st round picks and a 2nd along with Elijah Moore to help Jordan Love. The JOKE would be on the Jets if they left the party WITHOUT Rodgers.

  80. Rodgers does not have a no-trade clause. If we keep him on the roster he counts 31+ on the cap and 40+ if we trade him. For the Jets, Rodgers counts 15.3 mil against the cap this year and 23.8 next year if he plays in 2024 and for a starting QB that is a steal. The Jets are trading for his rights it is up to them to have him commit to playing out whatever contract they want to negotiate with him. Based on recent QB trades the first round and then some is reasonable. my take- First and a third this year with Elijah Moore. And a conditional 2nd rounder next year. If he retires no pick if he leads them to the AFC Championship game and returns in 2024 the 2nd rounder turns into a first rounder which would be the 29th pick at worst.Done call it a day!

  81. This is a game of chicken, but Rodgers can determine the outcome. If the Packers don’t play ball and lower their demands, Rodgers can show up for training camp and they will owe him $60m. It may be called an option bonus, but it’s not optional. They owe him that money. If I’m Aaron Rodgers I would show up with a smile on my face, ready to go, and sit on the bench and collect my salary until the Packers smarten up and trade me.

  82. This is the dumbest thing ever. The Jets are the perfect place to send him. Out of the conference.

    All they are doing is forcing Rodgers to say he will retire if they try to trade him anywhere but the Jets and they will get nothing. He could even say he plans to return to the Packers because no team will try to trade for him other than the Jets once he makes that threat.

    Based on all the wins Rodgers has brought to that organization they should take a fair offer and move on.

  83. Despite what many people think, Packers actually are in good position to request at least a 1st round pick. Packers have leverage! They have Rodgers on contract! The Jets desperately want Rodgers… but they DON’T have him on contract. Figure it out!! The fact that Packers don’t actually want Rodgers is beside the point. The only reason the Packers want to move on from Rodgers is because they believe in Jordan Love. But they know its still a risk. So the Packers can still opt to keep Rodgers. Currently, he’s better than Jordan Love anyway. The Jets have already shown their hand by going after Rodgers’ favorite players. It would be unwise for the Jets to not see this whole thing through. So yes, Packers know the Jets will fold at some point.

  84. “The greatest of all-time for one unproven draft pick?”
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    Bart Starr was traded?..

  85. floridapackfan says:
    March 16, 2023 at 11:00 am
    KnowsMoreThanYou says:
    March 16, 2023 at 10:50 am
    charlsong1 says:
    March 16, 2023 at 10:23 am
    I don’t understand saying the Packers should accept less than what Rodgers is worth
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    If you and your neighbor have identical houses, and your neighbor just sold his for $500k, but the best offer on your house is $450k, your house is worth…..$450k.

    Not true. I am an appraiser. If two houses next door to each other are identical and one just sold for $500k then the one next door if it is the same model mathch is worth every bit as much regardless of the offers. And if someone is offering 50k less for the exact house then they have not done their due dilgence And as an owner of the 2nd house, i would tell the buyer to pound sand.

    ———–

    then if you find no buyers for 2 years after that because the market tanked at that moment, maybe you shold have taken the 450k. The market is always fluid.

  86. the bottom line, ‘cuz Stone Cold says:
    March 16, 2023 at 10:57 am
    You can’t blame the organization. It’s on the player. These are adults.
    ==========

    Packers management is the reason this team hasn’t won more Super Bowls.

    Sherman had no business being GM. ENOURMOUS mistake. His top personnel man (Mark Hatley) passed away, that needs to be mentioned. But Wolf and Harlan never should have gone down this road.

    Ted Thompsons draft only model was ridiculous. You can’t build that way in this era. If not for Aaron Rodgers, his teams wouldn’t have been .500

    I’m not willing to pass final judgement on this regime until we see Love play.

    The current situation, and their handling of Rodgers since 2019 is an absolute joke. As you’ve said yourself, the contract is an unmitigated disaster.

    The mistakes are undeniable.

    10Rate This

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    I agree that Ted Thompson was a terrible drafter on defense. The same thing happened to Brees in NOs.

    GB and NOs fielded awful Ds for years. So, it’s not all on Rodgers. However, in recent seasons, GB and Rodgers’s own offense that he essentially runs like Brady ran his, choked it down wildly in postseason, many of those games at Lambeau.

    He choked when Brady threw 3 INTs in GB in the 2020 season and then choked in 2021 vs Garopppolo at home, scoring 10 points, while being a baby, skipping OTAs, and demanding an insane salary, forcing Adams to be traded.

    He did this to himself. He could have taken a little less, knowing he was at the end, and tried to win 1 more SB. He didn’t do that.

    He isolated himself even more and refuses to accept any accountability for when he plays poorly.

    That’s honestly why Love was drafted. It’s why Garoppolo was drafted in 2014. Truth.

    Brady was playing poorly and was the key reason why NE lost 2 SBs to the Giants. He played awfully in the conf title games each time and then didn’t make up for it when he had the chance to. Then, he ran off in the offseason and he came off completely distracted with his commitment to the team.

    For NE, the Garoppolo pick represetned great succcess because BB was brilliant in managing the ego. Brady was afraid he might get dealt away. That’s why he didn’t hold the franchise’s feet to the fire for the biggest contract in the Garoppolo years. BB was working daily with Garoppolo right in front of Brady’s face.

    NE got a 2nd dynasty as much off of that draft pick and managemennt by BB as much as it was Brady finally playing well again in postseasons, not hurting the team by disappearing in January and February.

  87. I heard The Packers are demanding 3 first rounds picks again if Rodgers is traded to the Vikings. 🤣

  88. Talk about a grease fire. Go back in your “DARK ROOM” and come out with a clear head. This is not good for your look. Come on dude.

  89. Packers have a terrible GM. This guy should’ve sold high last year when they could’ve picked up the Wilson package. Instead they have a terrible season and now Rodgers isn’t worth a 2nd round pick. He’s old and he has a lot to prove at this point.

  90. The Jet’s should just call Green Bay’s bluff. Getting a 1st round pick for a QB who is on the back side of his prime is laughable. GB doesn’t want Rodgers and his salary. Rodgers just has to say he is coming back to GB. That should be a motivator of GB. If GB wants to move on from Rodgers that’s fine, but but being difficult, asking too much and exacting some revenge will backfire. In a way I hope the trade falls through.

  91. The Packers are looking like the biggest schmucks of the NFL again trying to get last year’s value from this year’s worth. As always a day late and dollar short.

  92. With the Packers being jerks the rest of the league just might stick it to them if/when they ever come calling to maneuver in the draft.

  93. Sure, you want Rodgers to skip the off-season stuff and meet his receivers the first day of training camp. That worked really well for him last year.

  94. Packers should just be glad to get out of that ridiculous contact they gave Rodgers. That and Rodgers is on a steep decline in my opinion.

  95. Irish Hoodlum says:
    March 16, 2023 at 10:47 am
    Would give a 2nd and a 5th at most. No one else is interested in AR12 and if he were to return to the Packers they would never know what Jordan love is capable of. But to trade more than a 2nd for overpaid 39-year-old QB is just insane. It’s a one maybe two year rental
    Dear Mr. hoodlum…..I’ll bet there’d be a ton of interest if the packers released him. Do the Jets want that? I’d think not. San Fran, Carolina, Detroit, lord knows how many teams would be scrambling after him. The Packers are likely telling the Jets, the only reason this opportunity is available to you is because you’re in the AFC. Oh by the way, you screwed us on the Favre deal, so this one will be on the Wisconsin side of fair.

  96. I don’t think it is unreasonable for the Packers to want a 1st round pick for Rodgers, and some future assets on a conditional basis if he continues to play in 2024 and 2025. It seems like there should be bridge forward, like the Jets get Rodgers and give up a 1st round pick, and if the make the playoffs in 2023 and Rodgers plays in 2024, they get an additional 2nd round pick, if they don’t make the playoffs but Rodgers plays in 2024 it converts to a 3rd round pick and if no playoffs and no 2024 Rodgers then no pick. If they Jets make the playoffs in 2023 and 2024 and Rodgers plays in 2025 then the Packers get another 2nd round pick, if the make the playoffs in one of two of those years and Rodgers plays in 2025 it is a 3r round pick, if no playoffs but Rodgers plays in 2025 a 4th round pick and if none of the above no pick.

    The one thing this article doesn’t address is the fact that the Jets haven’t left themselves a Plan B. They have basically put all their eggs in the basket of trading for Rodgers . . . I guess they could make a push to sign Lamar Jackson if this falls through, but to trade up and grab one of the big 3 or 4 QBs in this draft will most likely cost them a lot more than what GB is asking for, as would Jackson. So while this article makes it out like GB doesn’t have leverage, they sort of does . . . the only question to be asked is who does time benefit? In negotiations the passage of time usually benefits one party or the other . . . so does the passage of time hurt or help GB and/or the Jets. If Rodgers has given the Jets a wish list of players he wants them to go get, I would say time is in GBs favor and slightly working against the Jets.

  97. This is a simple deal. Give them a 2nd round pick in this draft and a conditional 1st though 4th depending on the success of the 2022 Jets in the next draft. If they get to the AFCCG no Jets fan cares if they don’t pick 29th through 32nd.

  98. This is no different than the “words” put into Rodgers’ mouth that he hates and denies. Fact is, nobody but the Jets and Packers know what’s going on behind the scenes. Rodgers said he’s fit enough physically and mentally to win a SuperBowl, and he’s done it before. You have to pay for that privilege.

  99. You are delusional. The Jets are not going to give up two first round picks for a QB who is injured half the time.
    ___
    Rather than giving up a first round pick for a QB that will be 40 this year, has regressed physically, does not show up for OTAs, talks about retirement each offseason, throws his coaches and teammates under the bus when something does not go right? Yes please for Lamar and twice on Sunday

  100. Bart Starr 2 SB wins. Brett Favre 2 SBs with 1 win… Anyone else is fighting for 3rd on the Packers list. Congrats to AR for being better than Lynn Dickey.

  101. The Packer’s won’t save a penny by releasing Rodgers because his contract was guaranteed. Even if he was released, GB wouldn’t do it until a day before the season and do you really think Rodgers is going to win a Super Bowl coming in with no reps with a new team when the reason everyone says he played bad last year was because he skipped OTAs. As an owner of the Packer’s, I’m either getting my 1 this year and a 1 or 2 next year if he plays, or the Jet’s can start Zach Wilson next year.

  102. For those of you wondering, Rodgers does not have a no-trade clause so GB can trade him wherever they want without his permission.

  103. Gutekunst is feeling his career slip away. He’s trying to make up for his big blunder in drafting Love, which basically chased Rodgers out the door. Sure Rodgers is eccentric, but he is/was a helluva QB. Now Gutekunst is scrambling to clean up HIS mess and he doesn’t care who he takes down in the process. Maybe Rodgers wasn’t so far off when he wanted Gute gone….

  104. AR is still in the drivers seat. He can do nothing and collect close to 50 million dollars.

  105. The price of admission should have been set by Green Bay before it allowed Rodgers to talk to teams. Not saying the Texans are smart, but they played the Watson situation better than GB has played this.

  106. Rogers’ value is driven by the market. We see the market for top-shelf QBs, which is *multiple* first round picks. GMFlorio fails to recognize this is driven by what has gone down before in the trade market for equivalent talent. The Packers management has to answer to the fans, not a billionaire owner. Gutey recognizes that responsibility and is acting accordingly.

  107. This will end badly for both teams. Only the sorry Jets could blow this. They haven’t had a single thing of right since 69.

  108. The Jets showed their hand and now the Packers want to make them PAY. I don’t blame them. They’re going to eat some dead money any way, might as well get back as much as you can.

  109. I hope those cheese-addled idiots in Green Bay wind up having to keep A-A-ron and pay him the full $60 million. They’re overplaying a weak hand with an old QB who has lost a step, period.

  110. Why do people keep thinking the Packers have the Jets over a barrell???

    They dont…. the Jets can walk from the situation… EASILY.

    Green Bay can’t.

    The Jets own the 13th pick in the draft..and have the Ammo to move up easily to get a QB who won’t be a 2 year rental.

  111. How can you call the packers jerks in this chaos? Watch that Rodger fiasco from yesterday. Rodgers is and always has been the problem. He should shutup and let the teams work it out, everytime he opens his cake hole the issues get worse. I hate the packers, but they’re not the problem. The smarmy former “face of the franchise” is. Jet’s should call it off, to much Drama Queening even for NY.

  112. Other than Aaron Rodgers has Green Bay given any thoughts to the free agency thing that’s going on ?

  113. “The Packers are looking like the biggest schmucks in the NFL again” . . . yet, they have what, 4 super bowl wins during the time our Vikings have been in existence . . .

  114. englishguy24601 says:
    March 16, 2023 at 10:54 am
    100% no to a first round pick. The Packers have almost no leverage here. Rodgers could retire or the Jets could move on to someone different. Cut your losses, and use the Favre trade as a guide and let the LOVE era (or maybe just year) begin.

    ——————

    The Packers have all the leverage. LOL

    They have their QB developed and committed in Love. Rodgers is checked out. Whether Rodgers retires or goes and plays elsewhere, they could care less. If they get proper market value, then they can trade Rodgers and it’s a bonus.

    The current market, slightly less, is what Denver gave Seattle for Wilson due to the age factor.

    Seattle got 2 1sts and 2 2nds, a 4th, an additional later pick and 2 players.

    This means that GB needs at least a 1st and 2nd. I am sure the Jets think a 2dn and 4th is enough, and it’s not.

  115. Rodgers still holds some cards here. Doesn’t he have an NTC?

    He can make it very clear in public that if a deal isn’t done by XXX date that he’s no longer going to approve a trade and that he’s more than willing to sit on the bench and collect his 60M.

    =========

    Doubt Rodgers will do this as it would have NY Media jumping all over him for backing out on them. Hackett, Lazard, and any others they sign based on Rodgers words would feel the ire of Jets fans.

  116. He choked when Brady threw 3 INTs in GB in the 2020 season and then choked in 2021 vs Garopppolo at home, scoring 10 points, while being a baby, skipping OTAs, and demanding an insane salary, forcing Adams to be traded.
    ==========

    The Packers offered Davante Adams MORE than the Raiders. Adams very own words.

    Scottie Miller blown coverage at the half of the 2020 NFCC Game
    Aaron Jones fumble to start the 3rd Q, Brady threw a td pass on the next play
    14-point swing… 28-10

    Allen Lazard let the tying score sail right past him with 2:22 to go. Wide open.

    Mistakes across the board in this game. Rodgers played very well. Good enough to have earned a win, for sure.

  117. It’s amazing that so many people believe Rodgers has a no trade clause. He doesn’t.

  118. Packers: I want a hamburger… no, a cheeseburger. I want a hot dog. I want a milkshake…
    Jets after their patience wears out: You’ll get nothing, and like it.

  119. Sorry Florio, you’re wrong. I’m not giving up a 4 time MVP with a chip on his shoulder for a 2nd round pick. I’d just as soon he retire or backup Love for a year. My deal is this years 1 and next years 4th round fromJets for Rodgers and a 3rd round pick this year from GB.

  120. Rogers is due 50+M this year, if he sits tight and says. He won’t renegotiate, they’ll have to cut him. If the Jets are smart they won’t budge.. let the cut him and get nothing. No pressure on the Jets here..

  121. Rodgers needing some kind of vindictive motivation like this dragging out in order to play well next season sums up the drama queen that is A-Arron. Dude will shrivel up in a corner when he is not wanted anymore.

  122. The jets should demand the Packer’s 2023 first round pick for taking that stupid contract off their hands

  123. A first round pick for a 39 year old QB with a 60 million dollar contract is ludicrous. A single two or a three and a five. If not call on Stafford.

  124. And they should get it! The Jets are getting an MVP quarterback that continually gets his teams to the playoffs. If they don’t think he’s worth a first and more then why did they start moving heaven and earth to get him?

  125. If I were the Jets I’d let this play out until the Packers are forced to to bend to avoid paying at almost 60 million dollars to Rodgers. If I am Rodgers I am saying to the Packers make it happen or I will be the most expensive back up QB in history and collect a fortune while having front row seats to the games.

  126. Rodgers is so angry at the management the Packers should bring him back. He’ll either win another MVP and maybe a SB or flop. Win and Rodgers makes himself look even better and Packers management look foolish for considering to trade him. Flop and he hurts his legacy but also makes Packers management look foolish for not trading him (plus would make Jets look smarter for not offering what Packers want).

  127. Brady was playing poorly and was the key reason why NE lost 2 SBs to the Giants. He played awfully in the conf title games each time and then didn’t make up for it when he had the chance to. Then, he ran off in the offseason and he came off completely distracted with his commitment to the team.
    ==========

    Brady was playing poorly… in 2007??? The highest scoring team of all-time? (still #2..)

    2011 was also a top 10 scoring offense in League history at the time.

    Losing to those Giants teams was shameful. I won’t deny that!

  128. If memory serves me, there were several people in the media that reported that the Packers and Jets had a deal ‘hammered out’ and that’s all they were waiting for is Aaron Rodgers to make a decision. So, now that AR has decided, what’s the issue? Did the media lie or is someone trying to change the building blocks of the deal supposedly already in place?

  129. Who is in a hurry here? It’s best for them all to get it done now. However, the “over a barrel” stuff is nonsense. Nobody has anyone over a barrel.

    GB – they have NO other suitors and you know they don’t want him on the bench. Eventually they’ll have to cut him (post June 1) or have him be a backup at $60M. That will F the cap up for a couple of years big time.
    NYJ – They could go after Lamar here eventually or any number of other QBs that are younger. They want Rodgers, but they don’t have to have him.
    AR – He seems really “bitter sweet” emotional about this. I’m sure he just wants the page turned. He’s probably the one that gets screwed the most by this dragging on. However, he should just dig in that he’s a Packer and is preparing to play for the Packers. Start showing up at the facility. Working out. Only smiles.

    Once we get up to the draft the Packers lose leverage. As the summer unfolds the Packers lose leverage. they do NOT want $60M more spread out the next 2 seasons. They lose all leverage.

  130. David says:
    “I’ll bet there’d be a ton of interest if the packers released him. Do the Jets want that? I’d think not. San Fran, Carolina, Detroit, lord knows how many teams would be scrambling after him. The Packers are likely telling the Jets, the only reason this opportunity is available to you is because you’re in the AFC. Oh by the way, you screwed us on the Favre deal, so this one will be on the Wisconsin side of fair.”

    Detroit has no interest in Aaron Rodgers. They’ve beaten him three times in a row. Why would they downgrade?

  131. 1st round pick? No way, Jets should walk. Go with Wentz or Matt Ryan. One of those guys can be a game manager and probably gets the Jets 4-5 more wins than they had last year.

    This is 2023, 90% retired, 39 year old Aaron Rodgers we’re talking about. Not 2016 or 2020 Aaron Rodgers. Too big a risk he plays one year and retires…

    Can’t mortgage the future on that.

  132. We overplayed our hand. We will get fleeced. Rodgers cannot come back to GB under an circumstance, and the whole league knows it.

  133. I’m guessing the Browns, if they had to do it over again, could have traded for Aaron Rodgers , using one of the # 1s they gave up for Watson and he could have ended his career in Cleveland.
    I’m betting also the Packers would take Watson right now straight up Rodgers.

  134. A first round pick (and more) for a quarterback that’s likely to to retire in a year or two. Let’s see, the last time Green Bay went to the Super Bowl was 12 years ago.

    GO FOR IT, says all teams in the AFCE. LOL

  135. blizzardwarning says:
    March 16, 2023 at 10:24 am
    The Packers will determine the comp, or Rodgers can retire or back-up Love in GB. Simple.
    —————————
    Simple? Sure. What if Love struggles at any point? Tell us about that great team they’ll be fielding having to pay Rodgers salary. Even being on the hook for some of his salary in 2023, the Packers may be able to het a second rounder, which would hopefully be a player that would start on day 1. Simple.

  136. Look we get to look at this from the outside. If your the Packers, of course your going to ask for the moon, why wouldn’t you. I’d be shocked if they didnt ask for a one pick and some future booty.
    I agree with the analyst, if they get a two pick this year and next that is pretty good take and a reasonable one for a 40 year old QB. If he was 38 that would be different.

  137. As a lifelong Pats fan I absolutely detest everything about any New Yuck team and I personally think Rodgers is one of the biggest dbags in the NFL. Talk about overrated.
    With that said I totally hope he ends up in New York. It would be so fitting and give me even more reason to hate the Jets. The ONLY thing good ever to come outta the Jets was NAMATH.

  138. Tell the Packers good luck with that and paying that bonus sometime between now and the fall

  139. The Jets are foolish. I am sure Rodgers will skip OTAs and end up with another bad season again!

  140. IMO its the Jets who hold the trump cards. 1) they can opt for another QB and say screw it at any time. Hell they can bundle, move up and draft a future QB. A lot cheaper.
    2) The waiting game opens up other QB’s like Lamar who may get antsy and call offering his services for less. Now your talking a 5 year guy who is 26. 3) The Jets WANT Rodgers, key word want over NEED. They can UNWANT him in three weeks draft time.

  141. How much money do the Packers save by trading him after June 1st? It could be simply a salary cap issue at this point.

  142. And if trade falls through then what? GB will still have to give all that money to Rodgers and they can’t move to Love. Besides, if Rodgers stays in GB for 2023, what will GB get for him in 2024? Nada. GB should take what IS REASONABLE and be done with it. Just because his name is Rodgers doesn’t mean he is the second coming for the Jets. Getting Rodgers for one year , but pony up a 1st is not smart for the Jets to do. People commenting here are giving GB more leverage than they actually have.

  143. Rodgers doesn’t have many years left. Either he collects his money on the bench or Packers can at least try to get ‘something’ in return. One 1st is worth it but not another 1st or 2nd.

  144. Who’s in the most untenable situation if this falls through? The Packers.
    Who’s gonna blink first? The Packers.

  145. GB needs him gone just as badly as the Jets need him. If GB can find another team willing to give them more, then do it. Otherwise they gotta take what they can get or be willing to pay him 60 mil to sit on the bench.

  146. As a Lions fan this is great entertainment. I hope at some point the Jets say screw it and leave the Packers to deal with A-Aron and his massive contract. I’m sure Love would like another year riding the pine behind the prince of hobbit hole darkness

  147. touchback6 says:
    March 16, 2023 at 11:13 am
    the bottom line, ‘cuz Stone Cold says:
    March 16, 2023 at 10:57 am
    You can’t blame the organization. It’s on the player. These are adults.
    ==========

    Packers management is the reason this team hasn’t won more Super Bowls.

    Sherman had no business being GM. ENOURMOUS mistake. His top personnel man (Mark Hatley) passed away, that needs to be mentioned. But Wolf and Harlan never should have gone down this road.

    Ted Thompsons draft only model was ridiculous. You can’t build that way in this era. If not for Aaron Rodgers, his teams wouldn’t have been .500

    I’m not willing to pass final judgement on this regime until we see Love play.

    The current situation, and their handling of Rodgers since 2019 is an absolute joke. As you’ve said yourself, the contract is an unmitigated disaster.

    The mistakes are undeniable.

    10Rate This

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    I agree that Ted Thompson was a terrible drafter on defense. The same thing happened to Brees in NOs.

    GB and NOs fielded awful Ds for years. So, it’s not all on Rodgers. However, in recent seasons, GB and Rodgers’s own offense that he essentially runs like Brady ran his, choked it down wildly in postseason, many of those games at Lambeau.

    He choked when Brady threw 3 INTs in GB in the 2020 season and then choked in 2021 vs Garopppolo at home, scoring 10 points, while being a baby, skipping OTAs, and demanding an insane salary, forcing Adams to be traded.

    He did this to himself. He could have taken a little less, knowing he was at the end, and tried to win 1 more SB. He didn’t do that.

    He isolated himself even more and refuses to accept any accountability for when he plays poorly.

    That’s honestly why Love was drafted. It’s why Garoppolo was drafted in 2014. Truth.

    Brady was playing poorly and was the key reason why NE lost 2 SBs to the Giants. He played awfully in the conf title games each time and then didn’t make up for it when he had the chance to. Then, he ran off in the offseason and he came off completely distracted with his commitment to the team.

    For NE, the Garoppolo pick represetned great succcess because BB was brilliant in managing the ego. Brady was afraid he might get dealt away. That’s why he didn’t hold the franchise’s feet to the fire for the biggest contract in the Garoppolo years. BB was working daily with Garoppolo right in front of Brady’s face.

    NE got a 2nd dynasty as much off of that draft pick and managemennt by BB as much as it was Brady finally playing well again in postseasons, not hurting the team by disappearing in January and February.

    —————–

    Nonsense revisionist history regarding Brady. You can say he had bad games. That’s fair, but correlating that automatically with a fantasy situation you concocted about Jimmy G is just straight up not true.

    At the best of times and the worst of times, Brady made the the Patriots better during his entire tenure. He didn’t suddenly play better because of one guy, the 53 guys on the team played better.

  148. If I am Joe Douglas, I am telling packers to go crap in their hats. Take cursory 2nd or keep him.

  149. Rodgers is NOT the greatest of all time, except in his own head.

    Rodgers is barely top 10. He can’t hold a candle to Brady or Montana, and he’s still not as good as Manning, Otto Graham or Johnny U.

  150. Spalding Smails: I want a hamburger… no, a cheeseburger. I want a hot dog. I want a milkshake…
    Judge Smails: You’ll get nothing, and like it.

  151. Unclear to me why this is Rodgers’ fault.

    And unfortunately for Packers fans, this is another example of a front office whose professional acumen has ranged from amateurish to outright incompetent over the last few years.

    To ask for more than a 1st rounder when the Jets are absorbing that contract (and clearly solving a problem for them in the minds of most GB fans and the front office) is to ignore that this alone is significant compensation. If GB is determined to move on and they really have that much faith in Jordan Love, a 1st rounder should be adequate.

  152. A first round pick for a guy that will be 40 this year and likely will only play for one or two years……and commands the highest salary in the league is nuts.

  153. Rodgers declined more last year than people acknowledge. His legs are going, quickly, and can’t extend plays anymore. And the man can’t be bothered to build chemistry with new teammates, then blames them when he’s too concerned about his QBR and TD:int ratio to throw to them. He has a huge salary that also lowers his value in compensation going back to GB, unless they pay some of it. Also, NY’s first rounder is too high for this deal. Sure, the option bonus isn’t due until week one and a post-June 1 trade helps GB’s cap, I believe, but if I’m the Jets I wait until after the draft so GB can have a performance-based pick next year, which Rodgers can help make lower in any round by making the playoffs. I actually think the Jets have more leverage, why would GB risk not getting their draft picks this year? Have the Jets secured a commitment from Rodgers to attend OTA’s? If not, let GB and Rodgers sweat it out, they have his old OC to try to get him up to speed after the draft, OTA’s.

  154. To anyone defending Rodger’s worth, he’s a 1 or 2 year QB for the Jets. A first round pick is a 5 year player. IF Rodgers was still an MVP candidate, maybe you could justify a first rounder… but last year he was very pedestrian.

    Now, there’s an X factor… The NY media is a totally different ball game than playing for Green Bay. Who knows how Rodgers handles that. Right now he only talks on PMS because AJ Hawk is there and he can control the discussion. You don’t see him granting anyone else interviews for a reason.

    Now add in that he’s forcing teams to sign players for his arrival, as if the Jets didn’t already have a good WR room with Garret Wilson, Eli Moore, Corey Davis (who I assume will be cut), and Braxton Berrios (another option to get cut)… the last thing they need is Lazard AND Cobb added. Lazard could replace Davis, but Cobb? Nope.

    So remember, NYJ is already paying a premium for Rodgers due to his player demands. Between that and his salary, he’s not worth a first.

  155. You say you want a first round pick and more and you settle for a second and a conditional pick next year. The problem is they should have had this conversation before allowing the Jets to talk to Rodgers. This is a 39-year-old QB who had a bad year last year. There are no guarantees of a Super Bowl for the Jets and Rodgers being a bust in NY is probably a better possibility, so they don’t want to give up too much for him.

    If the Packers don’t trade him and keep him on the roster as a $60M backup, they will be completely roasted by everyone on Earth. If the Jets don’t trade for him this year, they’ll sign someone else, improve the team with their draft picks they didn’t give up, have a mediocre season, and take another swing at a QB next year. Their players are young; they don’t have to be in a hurry to trade for this head case.

  156. For all the people suggesting that the Jets should trade because the Packers will just release Rodgers into a feeding frenzy of teams….

    The Packers will lose cap space if they release him. If they do it pre-6/1, they’ll be net -$68m this year in cap space. If they do it after 6/1, they’ll net $24m in cap space this year, but be net -$43.6m in cap space next year. Either way, its a pretty large penalty the packers have to work around, which would be a hell of a spite tax for the Packers to pay.

    If the Jets trade doesn’t work out, the Packers either (1) hold on to a malcontent or (2) have to pray that someone else wants to trade for him. So far, no one else seems interested.

    Just FYI

  157. F#$* the picks! If the Jets will take that salary, the Packers need to just take a couple of 2nd and then use the 60mil on free agents. Can by a lot of help with 60mil!!

  158. Maybe what the Packers really want for Rodgers, is nothing, as in they are keeping him. It makes no sense, but nothing I’ve ready tells me Green Bay is eager for a deal.

  159. No one else is going to sign Rodgers under the current circumstances. The last other option, the Raiders, have officially moved on.

    The Jets want Rodgers, but they don’t technically need him if the price is wrong. For them, it’s an opportunity. The pressure on them is that they have a terrific roster and no great QB options anywhere close.

    So that leaves the Packers, who have shown their cards and we know they absolutely don’t want Rodgers.

    The Packers can play at holding out, but in the end they are the ones most pressured by avoiding an outcome they don’t want.

  160. I love the comments suggesting the Jets tell the Packers to pound sand and try to take their 1st round pick and try to move up in the draft to get another quarterback. Do you really want the same guy who drafted Wilson at 2 getting another shot at drafting a qb and most likely getting the 3rd qb drafted?

  161. It’s one thing to have self-esteem whether you’re a human or an organization full of humans, but it’s another thing to be oblivious to reality. The Packers have been and are an arrogant organization as there is. Yes Green Bay is a legacy franchise, but the Packers act as if they are better than any other organization in this league or any league of any sport. They are more arrogant than even Aaron Rodgers.

    Speaking of which, his skills are declining fast. Rodgers was horrible last year, missing open receivers, giving up on plays to avoid sacks, exercising his divine right as a Diva to rip the coaching staff whenever possible. Who would want this jerk on their team? He’s a bitter old man because he knows that Brady and Starr and Montana and Bradshaw and many others will always have more Super Bowl wins than he has because, let’s face it, they were better teammates who maximized the teammates around them. Rodgers is and has been all about Aaron Rodgers, and no one else, no matter how much he professes to love this or that or the other.

    A second round choice is fair, or a second- and a third-round choice at the very most. Stick to your guns, Jets. Green Bay is a frigid place to play, and the stadium seats are stiff planks of cold aluminum. No college player with the potential to be drafted yearns to play there. New York’s first-round picks are shining gold nuggets, this year and next, and with Rodgers, all the Jets are getting is is a rusty, soon-to-be-40-year-old nail.

  162. It’s going to be a very awkward season in Green Bay if the Packers don’t blink first.

  163. Green Bay’s front office has always treated its star players like dirt. This is no surprise to anyone who has paid attention over the last several decades.

  164. It just amazes me how NFL teams have fans so bamboozled, particularly homer Pack fans, that they almost always trash the player rather than the team or management. Maybe its Rodgers’ smugness that has all the cheeser anger directed away from Gutekunst. Rodgers saved Gutekunst’s posterior for numerous years and this is the thanks he gets.

  165. Jets are crazy. Look at how Rodgers treated the Packers after signing his massive extension. He can very easily do same to him. I say let Rodgers twist in the wind.

  166. Not sure why Florio and company are mystified by this. The most reasonable explanation for the Packers delaying a deal with the Jets is that other teams have contacted them and told them to wait. Once the draft is over, and the other free agent quarterbacks have signed, there will be 2-3 teams who still need one. Then the real bidding will begin.

  167. Tell the packers to kick rocks and go trade for Lamar Jackson if they want a 1 and more
    and leave the packers hanging. should not be getting anything more than a 3 and a 5 for the monster cap hit for a quarterback who regressed and is 40.

  168. The idea is to paint it so the Pack are greedy. They should trade him for a six pack, don’t even need to be cold right? That way the Vikings can stand a chance.

  169. moremichd says:
    March 16, 2023 at 12:00 pm
    If memory serves me, there were several people in the media that reported that the Packers and Jets had a deal ‘hammered out’ and that’s all they were waiting for is Aaron Rodgers to make a decision. So, now that AR has decided, what’s the issue? Did the media lie or is someone trying to change the building blocks of the deal supposedly already in place?

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    My guess? A deal was reached and after the Jets realized they were going to have to add Lazard, Cobb, Lewis, etc. they went back to the Packers and offered less.

  170. Both can be true.
    Jets are delusional if they think Rodgers is the missing piece, and GB is delusional if they think they should get more than a 3rd rd pick.
    We’re talking the 2023 version of Rodgers not the 2021 MVP version.
    Rodgers is a year older than the 2022 version where he was nothing more than an average QB at best, outplayed by the likes of Goff and Danny Dimes.
    Add in what happened last year to Denver and any team (Jets!) would be fun shy to send a package for an ageing 39 year old.
    GB missed the train last off season when they could have got a boatload for Rodgers.
    If I’m the Jets I don’t budge on a 3rd. If this trade falls through, I can’t wait to watch GB pay Rodgers $60 Million to sit on the bench and be a distraction for the entire season.

  171. No One puts baby in the corner! You caused the storm A A Ron don’t complain about the rain now. I would love for him to stay in Green Bay he doesn’t want to be there – Management doesn’t want him to be there watching Green Bay implode would be must see TV!

  172. Those making the Matthew Stafford comparison forget or ignore that Stafford was 33 and Rodgers is 39. Also Stafford was a good teammate and team player, hard worker always doing his best to win, tough as that was with the Lions. If he had been on a team with the talent the Packers generally had, he would have done better than Rodgers. And without the constant drama. Rodgers is not worth right now more than a second round pick. Even if the Jets give up that they are probably going to wish they hadn’t in a year or so.

  173. v2787 says:
    March 16, 2023 at 12:43 pm
    Why would the Jets want a 39 year old head case QB when Lamar Jackson is available?

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    Lamar Jackson? Speaking of head cases.

  174. Ahhh…the good old “per multiple sources” play…which means this is malarkey leaked by the Jets organization. “Per multiple sources” and $2 bucks will get you a cup of coffee, good luck with that.

  175. GB has never been a great running offense. Pick up Derrick Henry from the Titans and draft a big blocking TE. Sweep Henry right or left on 1st down,let Love dink and dunk on 2nd,throw to a fast receiver on an inside slant on 3rd and move the chains! Once you are inside the 10, give it to Henry and he will find the endzone. Let Love be a game manager!!

  176. Packers management screwed up in order to please Rodgers and now they’re trying to get a make-up call.

  177. One team here has 2 quarterbacks they believe are capable of starting now. One team that thinks it has a team ready to compete for a Super Bowl has none. On top of it, Rodgers current players and coaches would still welcome him back with open arms. The only folks from the Packers who want him gone are Gutekunst and Murphy. If the Jet’s balk, I’m sure Lafluer and his team mates would be thrilled to give it one more shot with Rodgers. What’s your backup plan New York? Put Wilson out there and try to tank next season(as usual) to draft another quarterback in the top ten, just like Mark Sanchez, Geno Smith, Sam Darnold, and Zach Wilson? Do the Jet’s really want to get greedy over a 1st or 2nd round pick? From list looks of the names above, they have no problem wasting 1st round picks.

  178. And here’s the question. With no owner in Green Bay, who’s in position to tell the front office to give a little in order to get rid of a guy they no longer want?****************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************This Packers “owner” wants them to stand firm and get a combo of picks and current Jet players. Stafford set that precedent a couple of years ago.

  179. Hold out for that 1ST rd pick we owe him nothing and we sure don’t owe the jets any favors we must have paid him 250-300 million over this tenure he gave us one super bowl.
    This year there 1st pick next year there 2nd and 3rd that seems fair they are the ones in a hurry the fans and coaches want him there asap we can wait.

  180. If Jets / Packers wait till midway thru training camp to give it will take him till mid season to be clicking with his receivers. So that’s long enough to ruin their season not ours we can wait .

  181. The Packers are playing a game of chicken. The Pack thinks it can play this game all the way up to the start of the season. But the Jets should bow out tonight. The Jets can’t hinge their 2023 hopes on the idea the Packers will trade Rodgers eventually. They have to fill their roster while options are still out there, including Lamar.

    What happens to the Packers if the Jets move on? Do they run it back with Aaron? Do they wait for a QB injury? An injury may not come at the right time and it could be a NFC or divisional foe.

  182. Mark Murphy was a great safety for Washington. He was smart as hell. Something must have happened because he’s handled this whole affair like a rookie. You NEVER say something in public like “we don’t want AR back,” then demand a king’s ransom for him. Also, isn’t it typical that a team with a player under contract (in this case, GB), will allow other teams to talk with him only AFTER agreeing to the framework of a trade? The Jets need to tell the Packers “This is our best offer. In two weeks it drops. Two weeks after that it drops again. Two weeks after that, we’re moving on.” The last thing Green Bay wants is Aaron Rodgers around the team, on the payroll, and they can’t afford to cut him. No way the Jets wait indefinitely.

    What a horrible, totally unavoidable problem they find themselves in.

  183. Jets need to pay the 2 1sts to get this deal done! Or not, and bring the GOAT back home!

  184. Some clueless jets fan said he should just retire well he can’t just retire and then just show up for training camp it doesn’t work that way (grow up)the Packers continue to hold his rights even after e retires .
    We need to stick it to old # 12 on his way out # 4 we forgave # 12 naaaaa make him miss half of training camp.

  185. touchback6 says:
    March 16, 2023 at 11:13 am

    forcing Adams to be traded.

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    Rodgers had nothing to do with Adams being traded. The person who forced the Adams trade was Adams. He bought a house in Vegas BEFORE the Packers put the franchise tag on him. He turned down more money from the Packers than what he got from the Raiders.

  186. Bart Starr 2 SB wins. Brett Favre 2 SBs with 1 win… Anyone else is fighting for 3rd on the Packers list. Congrats to AR for being better than Lynn Dickey.
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    Bart Starr – 5 Championships and a 3-peat.

    If all you measure is Titles, there’s Starr, and no one else.

  187. crackerjack59 says:
    March 16, 2023 at 12:47 pm

    F#$* the picks! If the Jets will take that salary, the Packers need to just take a couple of 2nd and then use the 60mil on free agents. Can by a lot of help with 60mil!!

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    Rodgers counts more on the Packers 2023 cap if he is traded to the Jets than if he stays on the Packers.

  188. Why would the Jets want a 39 year old head case QB when Lamar Jackson is available?
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    Signing a running back doesn’t fix their quarterback problem.

  189. Jets should offer next year’s first . Take it or leave it . Yes or no right now . Then move on either way .

  190. Jets, you got all the time in the world. Pick up a QB in round 4-5 and sit tight. GB is going to cut him before the guaranteed $58 mil kicks in. After he’s cut you sign him & owe zero picks.

  191. It’s hilarious, the wishy-washy posters and these media sports pundits. So suddenly, when the Packer’s organization wants decent compensation for a hall of fame QB, they’re the bad guys and you’re all on Rodger’s team? lol. Rodgers wanted all his players on the Packers, the organization signed them all. Rodgers wanted to be the highest paid player, the Packers made him the highest paid player. Then he continued to jerk them around with his passive-aggressive narcissism for 3 years..he comes out of the darkness and plays the victim. Yet the Packer’s organization are the bad guys for wanting to get something in return for all of this? Nuts. The Jets can go pound sand and Aaron can sit or retire, the Packers need to be fairly compensated.

  192. Hilarious.

    The cost of QB play is astronomical. Age doesn’t matter and even being a great QB doenst seem too. The mere idea that any price the Packers would ask the Jets to pay could be too much is comical. We’ve all seen what the Broncos gave up for a guy who is still trying to hit the 2nd read on a pass play for the 1st time in his career, what the Panthers just gave up for a guy nobody knows can play NFL football, or what the Browns paid and gave up for a suspended QB.

    The Jets have no leverage. GB does not have to trade Aaron. They can play him, let him rot, or let him retire. Only thing that changes is the win total this season. Which GB obviously doesn’t care about.

    GB being able to sit on it till their week one deadline or tell 12 to retire. NO REASON AT ALL for them to accept anything less than they want from the Jets.

    The motivation here is to not finish last in the AFC East. Fleece em GB

  193. The Packers are a disaster. Truly. They mangled the support around Rodgers while he was there, then they signed him to a ridiculous contract after drafting a QB in the first round to replace him, and now they’re beating up a team that represents their only hope to get out from under the contract with any compensation at all. Incredibly poor management.

  194. I hope the deal completely falls apart and the Packers are forced to give him away to avoid eating 60M.

  195. dcowboys2019 says:
    March 16, 2023 at 10:34 am

    The Packers should not soften their demands. Worse case scenario the trade doesn’t get done, they tell Rodgers he is going to be the backup. Rodgers will retire and they get out of a $60 mil cap hit. The Jets have painted themselves into a corner, the Packers should take advantage of it. Before completing this trade the Jets should do a little research on how well 40 year old QBs play. BTW, Brady is the exception, not the rule.
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    The Packers are not going to pay $85+ million is just QB salaries & will not pay Rodgers $60 million to be a back-up, that’s just ridiculous.

  196. dcowboys2019 says:
    March 16, 2023 at 10:34 am

    The Packers should not soften their demands. Worse case scenario the trade doesn’t get done, they tell Rodgers he is going to be the backup. Rodgers will retire and they get out of a $60 mil cap hit. The Jets have painted themselves into a corner, the Packers should take advantage of it. Before completing this trade the Jets should do a little research on how well 40 year old QBs play. BTW, Brady is the exception, not the rule.
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    The Packers are not going to pay $85+ million to just QB salaries & will not pay Rodgers $60 million to be a back-up, that’s just ridiculous.

  197. Disagree completely. Packers should get at least what the Seahawks got from Denver for Wilson. Precedent has been recorded.

  198. The Jets Owner shares some of the blame for this ongoing back and forth(presumably). You’ll recall he (the Jets ) said publicly that they are willing to spend big for a veteran QB (paraphrasing). Well, The Packers have decided to take him up on his offer. Can’t blame the Packers for doing so..

  199. The Jets want Rodgers. More importantly, the owner wants Rodgers. If the Jets don’t want Lamar, and they don’t, what other options do the Jets have? The Jets have put themselves in this position, and they are going to pay for it.

  200. Lol, jets just signed lizard and Aaron is playing for the pack next year. Everyone in the packers front office should be fired yesterday.

  201. metsfanmd says:
    March 16, 2023 at 12:02 pm
    1st round pick? No way, Jets should walk. Go with Wentz or Matt Ryan. One of those guys can be a game manager and probably gets the Jets 4-5 more wins than they had last year.

    I agree that asking for a #1 is too much but absolutely no way on earth would I go with Wentz or Ryan. I’d rather have Gardner Minshew or Cooper Rush as my QB.
    This negotiation between the Jets and Packers is hilarious. The funny thing is that I’m thinking some of the posturing by GB is to make Rodgers squirm. Sure, he could return to GB and get paid but have to suffer the embarrassment of being the backup, riding the pine. Nice legacy there, fitting end to the career and all that. So no, he won’t return to GB. Rodgers clearly doesn’t want the deal with the Jets to get toasted since they are now his only viable landing spot, hence his interview on the PMcA show. My feeling is that the deal will gone because it really is what both sides want. Final compensation will be in the neighborhood of a #2. Inheriting Rodgers’ contract is already a big give.

  202. what other options do the Jets have?
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    They already have Wilson. They could…. sign Lamar, trade for Stafford, trade for Cousins, trade for Tannehill, trade for Trubiskey, sign Minshew, or seduce Brady.

    The Packers are the ones with no options. If the Jets are smart, the Rodgers to Jets option ends after today.

  203. GB fans thinking they will get what Denver gave to Seattle is hilarious.
    If Denver made that trade with GB last year (it was offered and rejected) it would also be a fleeced deal against Denver. (Did anyone see Rodgers play last year)
    No team other than the Jets are willing to take on that $60 mill salary for a player who is past his prime and will only get worse.
    Take what you can get GB……

  204. 2nd round picks, are you kidding me? I would rather keep Rodgers and have him sit the year than give up this elite QB for next to nothing, ESPECIALLY after seeing what was given up for Stafford and Wilson, two QBs MUCH worse than Rodgers.

  205. packers76 says:
    “Hold out for that 1ST rd pick we owe him nothing and we sure don’t owe the jets any favors we must have paid him 250-300 million over this tenure he gave us one super bowl.
    This year there 1st pick next year there 2nd and 3rd that seems fair they are the ones in a hurry the fans and coaches want him there asap we can wait.”

    Except that Stafford was much younger, had a more affordable contract and never displayed the pure selfishness that Rodgers has shown in his career. Also, the Rams now pretty much have buyers remorse from that deal. At first, because they won the Super Bowl, everybody thought they got the better of the deal. Turns out, not really. And now the Jets know that given the advanced age, lofty salary and ‘me first’ personality of Rodgers, along with the fact it’s obvious the Packers front office and Rodgers don’t want each other any longer, the Jets are the ones with leverage in this scenario. The Packers should strongly consider lowering their demands.

  206. How can we possibly pass judgment on what the Packers are asking without knowing what the Jets are offering??? We do not know if the Packers position is step #1 in the process or step #20. It is a NEGOTIATION and parties naturally start wide apart. Why do we not also leak the present Jets position???

  207. More than a first for a QB thats past his prime and due 110M in 2 years?

    the Packers are lucky that anyone even wants that contract.

  208. booter145 says:
    March 16, 2023 at 2:38 pm
    Hilarious.

    The Jets have no leverage. GB does not have to trade Aaron. They can play him, let him rot, or let him retire. Only thing that changes is the win total this season. Which GB obviously doesn’t care about.

    GB being able to sit on it till their week one deadline or tell 12 to retire. NO REASON AT ALL for them to accept anything less than they want from the Jets.
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    Tell 12 to retire? Rodgers is making 110M guaranteed the next 2 seasons. He is not retiring.

  209. The Jets seem to think that the Packers should take into account if Rodgers is only going play one year and that he wants some of his buddies around and all the other stuff. None of that is the Packer’s concern. You want Rodgers, you get him in all his glory. It’s on NY to pay his salary, NY meet his demands, NY sign his posse. Packers do not have to consider Rodger’s nonsense for trade compensation. Welcome to the Packer’s world, New York; only we’ve been taking it for years.

  210. The Jets can wait until week 1 and get their guy with no picks. No way the Packers pay Rogers 58.3 or eat that kind of dead money. The Pack lose the ability to get any 2023 picks if they don’t bend on their ask before the draft. The Jets know that. A deal will get done before the draft and it’s not likely to be for the asking price. Rogers also has veto power on any trade, so the Packers can’t shop him.

  211. You’d have to be insane to trade a first round pick. Farve went for a conditional fourth, I’d say a third round pick that can become a second or first in 2025 if he plays 2 seasons would be fair compensation.

  212. Y’all keep bringing up 2-3 years ago what did he do last year? That’s his value

  213. Lamar Jackson is 2 first round picks. Packers are peeing into the wind if they think they’ll get a first round pick or more.

  214. One of the establishments at Lambeau is considering a drink called “Darkness Retreat”. Charge is $50. I wonder what that is in reference to?

  215. Of course they do. They’ll probably get it as well. Trading for Rodgers potentially allows the Jets to skip the line. They’ve shown with their last 2 high draft pick QBs that they don’t evaluate young talent in that group very well. If they don’t do this what else can they do?

  216. A guy who will play a max of 2 years if that, is not worth anywhere near what the Packers are asking for, I don’t remember Tampa paying that kind of compensation for Brady.
    Packer fans quoting he’s a HOF and 4 time MVP are deluded and talking about a Rodgers 2 years ago and also forgetting he only won 1 SB.
    GB should be careful what they wish for, because Rodgers will have doesn’t need much motivation to bite his own nose off to spite his face!
    All Jets have to do is wait Relax & them out!

  217. Two can play that game though. If I’m the Jets I announce I am no longer willing to trade anything of value for Rodgers. We are going to wait until after the $58mil payment has worked out between GB & Rodgers by week one. Not like any other team will trade for him knowing he is not willing to play for them. GB already is on the hook for that payment unless Rodgers agrees to a pay cut. Not likely he’d do that for GB under those circumstances.

  218. Has to be a conditional draft pick. 2nd round. Becomes a 1st is Jets play in AFC championship game. No way the Jets give up this year’s #13 overall.

  219. Has to be a conditional draft pick. 2nd round. Becomes a 1st if Jets play in AFC championship game. No way the Jets give up this year’s #13 overall.

  220. Gutenkunst should be fired. He’s a train wreck. Packers will be garbage without Rodgers.

  221. Packers are overplaying their hand. Is Rodgers worth more than a #1? Yes. Is Rodgers worth paying almost $60 million this year, and almost as much next year? No. If this trade falls through, Rodgers won’t retire out of sheer spite. They will have to pay him to stay home and make headlines with each weekly podcast.

  222. Jets can set the deadline to whatever they want. They need a QB, so they need to move on if the Packers won’t make a deal by X-date.

  223. You’d have to be insane to trade a first round pick. Farve went for a conditional fourth, I’d say a third round pick that can become a second or first in 2025 if he plays 2 seasons would be fair compensation.
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    Depends on how you look at it. Favre was traded for a conditional 1st… they just didn’t hit the parameters.

    And the Packers completely botched that whole thing. The Buccaneers almost certainly offered more, but management was paranoid about Favre playing against them. To say nothing of the absolute circus the Packers allowed that to become.

  224. NOBODY wears #12 in a NYJ uniform other than Joe Namath.
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    As it should be.

    Having lived in Bart Starrs long shadow, I hope Rodgers has the class not to go down that road.

  225. Except that Stafford was much younger, had a more affordable contract and never displayed the pure selfishness that Rodgers has shown in his career. Also, the Rams now pretty much have buyers remorse from that deal. At first, because they won the Super Bowl, everybody thought they got the better of the deal. Turns out, not really.
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    If the Jets make the deal, and win a Super Bowl like the Rams did, they will not have buyers remorse.

    The Rams don’t have it either. They went to a Super Bowl with Jared Goff… and scored 3 points. they don’t win without a better QB. McVay knew it. Sam Farmer of the LA Times reported they went after Rodgers before the Stafford deal.

    The Bucs sold out also. They have $35mil on their cap this year with Tom Bradys name on it. Their GM said yesterday he has no regrets whatsoever.

    Ask a Cardinals, Vikings, Lions, Bears, Jaguars, or Browns fan if they could live with this model…..

  226. If Rodgers is as good as the Jets believe he is and that he will lead them to the playoffs and beyond then why are they haggling over the cost of getting him from the Packers.if he is as good as they think then pay what is needed to aquire him and move on.a great product comes at a high price so just pay it.

  227. The greatest of all time? Yeah sure, if you’ve only watched Packer games and don’t follow the NFL. this is just one reason why Packer fans are continually ridiculed by the other 31 fanbases

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    Because they’re jealous, salty haters, plain and simple. It comes with the territory. Definitely the greatest QB of all-time. Not the best leader of all-time, but the best quarterback of all-time

  228. Because they’re jealous, salty haters, plain and simple. It comes with the territory. Definitely the greatest QB of all-time. Not the best leader of all-time, but the best quarterback of all-time
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    The most talented. Thats as far as I would go.

    QBs get too much credit for teams success, and shoulder too much blame…. there is/was something missing with Rodgers. He rarely elevated his team when it was time. Never lost games! Learned by watching Favre, for sure. But what is his defining moment? Brady had them. Montana had them. Starr had them. Elway had them. The Great ones do. Rodgers really doesn’t.

    … but I have never seen a guy sling it like he did. An absolute treat to watch every Sunday.

  229. The Patriots should offer up their first pick to the Packers so both team’s fans can laugh hysterically every time Zach Wilson throws a ball to a blanketed Allen Lazard.

  230. I don’t think NFL fans know how bad Rodgers was last year. His best day passing was for 255 yards against the Bucs in game 3.

  231. What if the Jets just say “Nah. We will give you two seconds and that’s it.”

    The Packers do WHAT? I guess they keep him. And if he refuses to play, they just don’t pay him. He would still be a cap hit but no cash would go out the door. Cash flow being meaningful.

    He can retire, maybe. Again, cap hit, but he also doesn’t get the money.

    I think the Jets are in the lead here.

  232. Conditional 2024 First rounder if Jets make the playoffs in 2023 and Rodgers plays 75% of snaps. That and 2023 second rounder would be fair. Rodgers won’t refuse to play, screamingviking. If they don’t trade him he will 100% show up and demand his starting job.

  233. The football gods are watching and none too pleased. Somewhere up there, Vince Lombardi is saying “What the hell is going on here?” (This all should have been resolved 15 minutes before the meeting started.)

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