Will Lamar Jackson hire an agent now?

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With the NFL making it clear to all teams that they must not negotiate with uncertified agent Ken Francis regarding Lamar Jackson, Jackson has a decision to make.

Does he attempt, on his own, to get teams to potentially sign him to an offer sheet, or does he hire an NFLPA-certified agent to do it?

He’s possibly even more determined not to hire an agent now, given basic human nature and stubbornness. The more any of us believe someone else wants us to do something we don’t want to do, the less likely we are to want to do it.

It nevertheless remains in Lamar’s best interests to do it. Even if he isn’t willing or able to admit it, it’s the truth. More and more people seem to realize it.

And if it’s all about appearances — about not letting anyone think he relented even if he did — there’s a strategy he could pursue. He could try to secretly retain an NFLPA-certified agent.

Here’s how it would work. He’d hire an agent and decline to sign a Standard Representation Agreement, which makes the relationship public and open and known. The agent would then send a letter to the union explaining that Jackson wants the agent to represent him, but that Jackson doesn’t want to sign an SRA.

To work, this approach would require extreme discretion by all involved, including the teams to which the agent would be talking. Inevitably, however, word would get out that someone certified by the union is working on behalf of Lamar.

Unless, of course, the agent works only with the Ravens and no other team. Why bother with other teams at this point, if they’re not going to pursue him? For Lamar, the best move could be to do a deal with the one team that clearly wants to employ him, now and into the future.

That’s one of the other problems with not having an agent. The agent can say to Lamar, “This is your best option. And it may be your only option.”

Lamar, like plenty of other self-represented players, started down this path in order to save a little money.  He likely has learned, whether he’ll admit it or not, that agents do a lot more than make a few calls and send a few emails and take a percentage of the total deal. Whether those lessons are enough to get him to finally do what he should have been doing all along remains to be seen.

Still, the sooner he does it, the better off he’ll be.

97 responses to “Will Lamar Jackson hire an agent now?

  1. Complaining that you’re only getting 360million out of your 400million dollar deal is pretty stupid.

  2. ^^ He’s obviously not an average QB lol. I didn’t see this much attention to Derek Carr or Jimmy Garroppolo? So just keep your comment to yourself. We all see it’s just hate and trollfulness haha

  3. If there wasn’t before, there almost certainly now must be some contamination in the relationship between Ravens and LaMar. Hard to see how this resolves with him remaining there.

  4. The Most Over Rated Player of ALL TIME doesn’t use wisdom! He is determined to do it his way because he thinks that the NFL is nothing without Lamar Jackson…
    He is not wise enough to realize the NFL will do just fine going right on without him!

  5. As a Ravens fan I was super excited after 2019 season. 2020 was a throw away season given all the COVID issues. 2021 I was disappointed but optimistic because 2022 was going to be his “prove it” year. After 2022 I had one foot out of the “LJ is our QB1” camp and now I am firmly on the outside and tired of this drama. On the plus side I am pleased with how the Ravens organization and Bisciotti have handled it.

  6. Most of the bad decisions will be made because he can’t understand a simple playbook and runs. He’s got maybe 3 years left before his legs are gone.

  7. That idea makes way too much sense for his mom to do..this is definitely his only big money contract and it’s more money then the average person will make in 25 lifetimes!

  8. He won’t do it because that’s the smart move, and up until now he hasn’t made a single smart decision, so why does anyone think he’ll start now

  9. ariani1985 says:
    March 25, 2023 at 12:08 pm

    Why so much attention for an average QB?
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    Wins 74%, MVP, slew of NFL records including 2 perfect passer rating games in a season, made playoffs 4 out 5 years, beat Mahomes and Burrow the last time he played them, better QBR than Burrow with garbage receivers and most importantly, respected by coaches and players. Burrow missed a full season, not one word said, so disingenuous. I speak facts, you guys speak feelings.

  10. As someone who’s spent a career as a mediator in negotiations where one party is expecting the other party to pay money ( sometimes a huge amount ) I can assure you that it’s critical that both sides have highly qualified representatives doing the negotiating to reach a final agreement, which then forms a binding, often intensely detailed contract. Contract law is not for the unlearned neophyte. Presently, Jackson has a fool for a client.

  11. The thing that is most apparent is that Lamar refuses to put the work in that is required to actually represent himself. On top of being woefully uninformed, he’s lazy. You can’t make this stuff up.

  12. He seems like a passive-aggressive negotiator. He wouldn’t even get into a conversation with the Ravens last year, like he is just going to ignore teams until they just hand him an outrageous contract.

  13. An agent guarantees nothing. If I know my number, I don’t need a middle man. Do it your way, Lamar. And if Lamar isn’t a great player, why are you wasting your time posting on every Lamar thread? I’m certainly not constantly commenting on Sam Darnold’s contracts talks and neither are you because he sucks. But let the hate roll because I’m loving this and can’t wait for the comments when Lamar gets mega deal. Did you see what Daniel Jones just got? Haha, Lamar is about to break the bank, haters!

  14. Lamar is showing the ravens why they should get rid of him. His refusal to get an agent shows that he’s not very smart. Why would any team want to have an ignorant guy as their quarterback?

  15. Probably just rumors, but heard the teams wouldn’t negotiate because they had no idea who Garron Teade was…

  16. Lamar Jackson has a great W-L record, but his just an average passer. His completion percentage is the 14th best in the league, which is mediocre. He’s a great running back. Unfortunately, quarterbacks tat depend on their legs to wi usually don’t last long in the NFL. Any team would be foolish to sign him to a long term deal that includes more than a year or two of guaranteed pay.

  17. A lot of Lamar supporters, including current and former NFL players, laughed when Daniel Jones signed his new contract with the Giants. They point out that Lamar is ‘elite’. Apparently mocking Daniel Jones status as an NFL QB. Now I’m not here to say Jones is elite ok, but lets look at some stats.

    Lamar Jackson: 5 NFL Seasons-70 games played-4 games of 300yds passing.

    Daniel Jones: 4 NFL Seasons-54 games played-8 games of 300yds passing.

    If I’m an NFL GM I’d say that Jones has a better upside than Jackson. I’d say that Jackson is a bad investment long-term. So go ahead and laugh. But I’d rather be Jones agent.

  18. LJ plain amd simple is not capable of reading a complex defense. Hence the reason he takes off and runs quite often. Sure he is a talented athlete, but as a QB you need to be capable of reading coverages that the D is playing and he has proven that he cannot do that. All the running is going to shorten his career. One must ask, would he be willing to give up or pay back portion of his guaranteed contract if he becomes injured and misses more then one or 2 games in a row?? Probably not, so why should ANY team offer him a fully guaranteed contract for a RB that plays the QB position???? Ravens would be so much better off with 2 number 1 picks. In a few years there just might be a QB in the draft with the last name of Manning that those 2 saved picks will help to get him.

  19. The Ravens fans on here are cracking me up. Seens to me that some of the Ravens fans (emphasis on some – not all are fools) deserve Lamar Jackson….they are loud mouths that overvalue their team’s and their own worth.

  20. 4evrnyt says:
    March 25, 2023 at 12:11 pm
    Complaining that you’re only getting 360million out of your 400million dollar deal is pretty stupid.
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    Actually at the NFL Agent’s 3% max, it would be $380million at the most!…..smh…

  21. He’s obviously not an average QB lol. I didn’t see this much attention to Derek Carr or Jimmy Garroppolo? So just keep your comment to yourself. We all see it’s just hate and trollfulness
    Wins 74%, MVP, slew of NFL records including 2 perfect passer rating games in a season, made playoffs 4 out 5 years, beat Mahomes and Burrow the last time he played them, better QBR than Burrow with garbage receivers and most importantly, respected by coaches and players.

    I have no hate towards Lamar, but I’ll call it as I see it.
    For the record, Lamar is an excellent athlete. When he’s healthy he can run like crazy but for the most part he is also just an average QB. Want evidence? Over the last 2 years Lamar has thrown 33 TDs and 20 INTs. Similar numbers to various 2 year spans of backups like Andy Dalton, Jameis Winston, etc. For the record, Carson Wentz numbers over the last 2 years: 38TDs, 16 INTs – quite a bit better than Lamar and no one is calling Carson Wentz elite.
    Yes, I know Lamar can run. However, Lamar’s rushing totals have gone down each and every year since his MVP season in 2019. Part of that is because of injuries and missed games, but that’s kind of the point. The more he rushes, the more injuries he will have and the effect becomes cumulative. It’s largely because of this trend that I don’t blame teams for not wanting to offer Lamar a huge guaranteed contract. His childish social media behavior and the general feeling that he quit on the Ravens haven’t helped either.
    Best options for Lamar? 1) Stay off social media. 2) Sign a 2 or 3 year contract similar to what the Ravens previously offered, if that’s still out there. 3) Be flexible in your demands, allow your team to put quality players around you (it worked for Brady). 4) Become the team leader in every way, shape and form. Show grace and class in everything you do. Life isn’t about YOU.

  22. ravensarejusbetter says:
    March 25, 2023 at 12:20 pm
    ^^ He’s obviously not an average QB lol. I didn’t see this much attention to Derek Carr or Jimmy Garroppolo? So just keep your comment to yourself. We all see it’s just hate and trollfulness haha
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    Those guys pass for mora that 3000 yards in a season

  23. Casey says:
    March 25, 2023 at 12:48 pm
    As a Ravens fan I was super excited after 2019 season. 2020 was a throw away season given all the COVID issues. 2021 I was disappointed but optimistic because 2022 was going to be his “prove it” year. After 2022 I had one foot out of the “LJ is our QB1” camp and now I am firmly on the outside and tired of this drama. On the plus side I am pleased with how the Ravens organization and Bisciotti have handled it.
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    As a Ravens fans I completely disagree. After 2019 I expected the Ravens to do what other teams do and load up while we have a QB on a rookie contract. Every draft rolled around and not a single difference maker gets drafted. Every off-season we may gain a solid player or two while losing a solid player or two. Eric Decosta wasted the most Valuable thing you can have in sports. After 2021 I noticed that every single above average player on this roster was drafted by Ozzie Newsome. 4 Eric Decosta drafts one pro bowl player who made it as a punt returner after Ozzie drafted 8 in his last 4 seasons. I realized Ozzie Newsomes was the Ravens that I had known. This is not the same organization. And when Biscotti made his comments about DeShaun Watson contract after the Ravens failed to sign Jackson to an extension for a year I realized the problem. The competitiveness needed within an organization is gone. I don’t blame Jackson one bit. He does deserve more money than Watson from the Ravens. They failed him for 5 seasons. There is a reason that this offense goes from 6th to last when Jackson is on and off the field. I saw so many QB make the leap to Jackson level when their teams acquired quality players while the Ravens loaded up on backup safeties. This offense is not built around Jackson. Its not built at all. If I was Jackson I would have demanded a trade last off-season and would not consider playing under Decosta under any circumstance.

  24. watchoutnfl says:
    March 25, 2023 at 2:35 pm

    He’s obviously not an average QB lol. I didn’t see this much attention to Derek Carr or Jimmy Garroppolo? So just keep your comment to yourself. We all see it’s just hate and trollfulness
    Wins 74%, MVP, slew of NFL records including 2 perfect passer rating games in a season, made playoffs 4 out 5 years, beat Mahomes and Burrow the last time he played them, better QBR than Burrow with garbage receivers and most importantly, respected by coaches and players.

    I have no hate towards Lamar, but I’ll call it as I see it.
    For the record, Lamar is an excellent athlete. When he’s healthy he can run like crazy but for the most part he is also just an average QB. Want evidence? Over the last 2 years Lamar has thrown 33 TDs and 20 INTs. Similar numbers to various 2 year spans of backups like Andy Dalton, Jameis Winston, etc. For the record, Carson Wentz numbers over the last 2 years: 38TDs, 16 INTs – quite a bit better than Lamar and no one is calling Carson Wentz elite.
    Yes, I know Lamar can run. However, Lamar’s rushing totals have gone down each and every year since his MVP season in 2019. Part of that is because of injuries and missed games, but that’s kind of the point. The more he rushes, the more injuries he will have and the effect becomes cumulative. It’s largely because of this trend that I don’t blame teams for not wanting to offer Lamar a huge guaranteed contract. His childish social media behavior and the general feeling that he quit on the Ravens haven’t helped either.
    Best options for Lamar? 1) Stay off social media. 2) Sign a 2 or 3 year contract similar to what the Ravens previously offered, if that’s still out there. 3) Be flexible in your demands, allow your team to put quality players around you (it worked for Brady). 4) Become the team leader in every way, shape and form. Show grace and class in everything you do. Life isn’t about YOU.
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    Please stop. Exactly, what do stats win you? Nothing. Wins is all that matters. What did the QBs win that you mentioned? Not a darn thing. You see the play on the field. He is asked to do more than any QB with poor talent around him. Definitely, not average or there simply would not be all this hoopla surrounding him. Jackson’s only had 2 injuries in 5 years, no surgeries and you guys act he has one leg left. Burrow misses a full season and not even a peep from you guys. What a bunch of hypocrites!

  25. Ummmm…..hey there genius…..Burrow has never missed a full season. He has also won several playoff games – something your precious Lamar is incapable of.

  26. This could be another annual Aaron Rodgers situation if he signs the tender and waits till next year.

  27. The initial report was that the NFLPA was helping Lamar.

    Buried in the Ken Francis reporting is that it was the NFLPA who reported to the NFL that a non certified agent was contacting teams on behalf of Lamar. Lamar has denied that Francis was contacting teams.

    Regardless, it would appear that Lamar and the NFLPA are not as aligned as one would be lead to believe.

  28. Not average, but no doubt that the combination of wear and tear from his playing style and defensive adjustments are having a long-term impact on Jackson’s success. A player in this tier should not have any weaknesses and Jackson’s weakness is his passing. I really hope the Ravens do not sign him to a longterm deal.

  29. skcusoirolf says:
    March 25, 2023 at 2:24 pm

    LJ plain amd simple is not capable of reading a complex defense. Hence the reason he takes off and runs quite often. Sure he is a talented athlete, but as a QB you need to be capable of reading coverages that the D is playing and he has proven that he cannot do that. All the running is going to shorten his career. One must ask, would he be willing to give up or pay back portion of his guaranteed contract if he becomes injured and misses more then one or 2 games in a row?? Probably not, so why should ANY team offer him a fully guaranteed contract for a RB that plays the QB position???? Ravens would be so much better off with 2 number 1 picks. In a few years there just might be a QB in the draft with the last name of Manning that those 2 saved picks will help to get him.
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    See, more crap from people who have no idea what they are talking about. In 2021, at the time of his injury, Jackson was the most sacked QB in the league because he was waiting to make a play passing, instead of running. I wished he had ran more because those garbage receivers were not getting open. If you actually watched Ravens’ games, you would know this. Please tell me what these 2 picks guarantee you? Trey Lance? I bet the 49ers sure wish they had that one back. You guys just miss the point on everything. All these stats and predictions. Bottom line, the Ravens win with Lamar and they lose without him. He had a ten point lead in almost every game last year. Why would you get rid of that and seek the unknown when the NFL can’t field 20 capable QBs? Again, you guys really make no sense.

  30. andyreidsmustache says:
    March 25, 2023 at 2:06 pm
    If he did, it’d be bigger news than Rodgers signing with the jets
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    Disagree if Rodgers signs with the Jets as you stated that would be otherworldly news considering he’s under contract to gb. In fact if anyone under contract signed with a different team it would be otherworldly news…sorry to kill your lame snark

  31. He may be as smart as they say, but he’s not very wise. He would’ve gotten somethin quite close to what he wanted years ago if he had a good agent

  32. I have no hate towards Lamar, but I’ll call it as I see it.
    For the record, Lamar is an excellent athlete. When he’s healthy he can run like crazy but for the most part he is also just an average QB. Want evidence? Over the last 2 years Lamar has thrown 33 TDs and 20 INTs. Similar numbers to various 2 year spans of backups like Andy Dalton, Jameis Winston, etc. For the record, Carson Wentz numbers over the last 2 years: 38TDs, 16 INTs – quite a bit better than Lamar and no one is calling Carson Wentz elite.
    Yes, I know Lamar can run. However, Lamar’s rushing totals have gone down each and every year since his MVP season in 2019. Part of that is because of injuries and missed games, but that’s kind of the point. The more he rushes, the more injuries he will have and the effect becomes cumulative. It’s largely because of this trend that I don’t blame teams for not wanting to offer Lamar a huge guaranteed contract. His childish social media behavior and the general feeling that he quit on the Ravens haven’t helped either.
    Best options for Lamar? 1) Stay off social media. 2) Sign a 2 or 3 year contract similar to what the Ravens previously offered, if that’s still out there. 3) Be flexible in your demands, allow your team to put quality players around you (it worked for Brady). 4) Become the team leader in every way, shape and form. Show grace and class in everything you do. Life isn’t about YOU

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    The problem is you are using you are “calling it like you see it” from a 1977 perspective. You are using old school traditional statistics to judge new schools untraditional QBS. Your Carson Wentz example is the prime reason that TD/Int is terrible way to evaluate QBs. Nobody thinks Wentz is elite because he was 31st in QBR and posted a Pff grade of 60. Plenty of people know Jackson is elite because he was 9th In QBR and had a grade of 85. Teams aren’t offering a fully guaranteed contract because they are colluding. Within an hour of Jackson being franchised half the league said they weren’t interested in even asking Jackson how much money he is seeking. The man might sign for the minimum to get out of Baltimore. They don’t even want to know.

    The best option for Jackson is to sign the Franchise tag in November. The Ravens will be 2-9. Jackson can come out win them a couple of games as usual then shut it down and see if the Ravens are willing to waste another season standing on principle of no fully guaranteed contracts because they failed to sign him 2 years ago. The feeling that he “quit on his team” comes from internet trolls not people in the organization or they would have let him leave. The team seems to enjoy him leading them to victory 75% of the time.

  33. It doesn’t benefit Jackson to hire an agent contrary to the soapbox rants. If Jackson wants the majority of a contract guaranteed and no team is willing to get close to those demands an agent doesn’t change anything. Too many people think the agent decides what to sign, it’s still up to the player whether they decide to sign

  34. He doesn’t need an agent to sign his tender, pull his hamstring, a couple of other nagging injuries, 5 or 6 really good games and then injured reserve.

  35. Sunday Swami says:
    March 25, 2023 at 3:20 pm
    It doesn’t benefit Jackson to hire an agent contrary to the soapbox rants. If Jackson wants the majority of a contract guaranteed and no team is willing to get close to those demands an agent doesn’t change anything. Too many people think the agent decides what to sign, it’s still up to the player whether they decide to sign
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    But at the end of the day, do you honestly think that an NFL athlete is going to be able to negotiate as favorable contract, including guaranteed money, incentives etc., as an experienced NFL certified Agent? It seems quite simple, Lamar should stay in his lane….smh….

  36. chue says:
    March 25, 2023 at 2:56 pm
    Ummmm…..hey there genius…..Burrow has never missed a full season. He has also won several playoff games – something your precious Lamar is incapable of.

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    Yeah only missed half and season. He was terrible the other half of the season before he got Jamar Chase. The Bengals have won a few playoffs so did Jimmy Garropollo congrats on peaking at Jimmy Garropollo. The Ravens are about superbowls the Bengals are happy beating Derek Carr level QB in wildcard games every 30 years. Jackson finished ahead of Burrow in QBR again without the all pro supporting cast.

  37. mikecrabtreeschain says:
    March 25, 2023 at 3:18 pm

    The best option for Jackson is to sign the Franchise tag in November. The Ravens will be 2-9. Jackson can come out win them a couple of games as usual then shut it down and see if the Ravens are willing to waste another season standing on principle of no fully guaranteed contracts because they failed to sign him 2 years ago. The feeling that he “quit on his team” comes from internet trolls not people in the organization or they would have let him leave. The team seems to enjoy him leading them to victory 75% of the time.
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    If Lamar took your advice and, “win them a couple of games as usual then shut it down and see if the Ravens are willing to waste another season standing on principle,” do you not think that it would hurt his chances of another team trying to trade for him?

  38. “Teams aren’t offering a fully guaranteed contract because they are colluding. Within an hour of Jackson being franchised half the league said they weren’t interested in even asking Jackson how much money he is seeking.”

    Disagree. Half the league said they weren’t interested because they’d already seen what brutal QB contracts have done to teams in recent years. Broncos + Wilson, Cards + Murray, Eagles + Wentz, Colts + Wentz, Colts + Ryan, Rams + Goff, maybe Cowboys + Prescott and the big two: Packers + Rodgers and Browns + Watson. Be honest here, do you really believe the Browns will ever get full value from the Watson contract? The Packers are also in a brutal position except they somehow found a rube (Jets) to take Rodgers and his contract off their hands.
    Huge, guaranteed contract demands immediately turned off several teams. Jackson’s recent play, childish behavior and selfish attitude turned off several more. Show me a QB with the skills, character and attitude of Mahomes, Burrow, Lawrence, Herbert or Allen and I’ll show you teams lining up to sign them. Period.

  39. A QBs job is to be a leader. The stats are just part of that. Lamar is such a fool that I could see him holding off signing the tender and ruining any chance of a cohesive offense under a new coordinator. It won’t get him a single additional penny but it will make him feel like a tough guy. It will make the all 32 teams even less likely to want him long term. An agent would explain this but he’s too DK smart to listen to an agent.

  40. “The feeling that he “quit on his team” comes from internet trolls not people in the organization or they would have let him leave. The team seems to enjoy him leading them to victory 75% of the time.”

    1) It actually looks to me like the Ravens are willing to let him leave. I’d say they’re hoping someone will make an offer and they’ll collect two 1st rounders and be rid of the headache.
    2) Why isn’t Lamar leading his team to victory 75% of the time in the playoffs? That would be 25% in the playoffs. Why? Good teams have him figured out and he can’t adjust.

  41. jackrabbitslim says:
    March 25, 2023 at 2:21 pm
    A lot of Lamar supporters, including current and former NFL players, laughed when Daniel Jones signed his new contract with the Giants. They point out that Lamar is ‘elite’. Apparently mocking Daniel Jones status as an NFL QB. Now I’m not here to say Jones is elite ok, but lets look at some stats.

    Lamar Jackson: 5 NFL Seasons-70 games played-4 games of 300yds passing.

    Daniel Jones: 4 NFL Seasons-54 games played-8 games of 300yds passing.

    If I’m an NFL GM I’d say that Jones has a better upside than Jackson. I’d say that Jackson is a bad investment long-term. So go ahead and laugh. But I’d rather be Jones agent

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    Let’s look at some other stats
    Winning percentage
    Jackson 73%
    Jones 39%
    QBR
    Jackson 1st, 7th, 17th 9th
    Jones 18th, 20th, 22nd,8th

    Mvps
    Jackson 1
    Jones lol

    Pff grades

    Jackson 91, 81, 70, 85
    Jones 65, 71, 78, 76

    Pocket passer rating

    Jackson 98(10th)
    Jones 88 (26th)

    If you were a GM you would be fired Just like the GM that drafted Daniel Jones. I’m not even a Jones hater. He is solid top 14-18 QB. Jackson is top 2-4.

  42. I think it is clear, the Ravens don’t want him (vice versa, too). Based off Lamar’s recent behavior (bowing out of playoffs when medically clear, publicly airing laundry, using agents for ideas, using NFLPA… then violating NFLPA rules, etc.), it’s clear the Ravens have been dealing with a difficult person behind closed doors. I don’t blame them for trying to cut bait, especially when you consider they adopted a college offense to allow him to be successful (alienating WRs in the process)—no good deed goes unpunished.

    Baltimore made a miscalculation that other teams would pay the (2) firsts and a contract. Now they are stuck with him for another year.

  43. watchoutnfl says:
    March 25, 2023 at 3:46 pm
    “The feeling that he “quit on his team” comes from internet trolls not people in the organization or they would have let him leave. The team seems to enjoy him leading them to victory 75% of the time.”

    1) It actually looks to me like the Ravens are willing to let him leave. I’d say they’re hoping someone will make an offer and they’ll collect two 1st rounders and be rid of the headache.
    2) Why isn’t Lamar leading his team to victory 75% of the time in the playoffs? That would be 25% in the playoffs. Why? Good teams have him figured out and he can’t adjust

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    1) His contract has expired. They don’t have to hope. If he quit on his team the wouldn’t have franchised him and continue to negotiate a contract. Players in the locker room have been quite vocal about wanting him back.
    2) Do you think teams only suddenly get “good” only in the playoffs? It takes a team and its an extremely small sample size. Should the Bills cut Josh Allen and sign Colin Kaepernick? Kaepernick has a much better playoff record. Why did Derek Carr and his zero playoff wins get double the money that Jimmy G did with 5?

  44. mas1103 says:
    March 25, 2023 at 3:28 pm
    Dude scored a 13 on the wonderlich he needs an agent

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    He needs a lot more than an agent

  45. As a person from the poor side of town it hurts me beyond pain to see Lamar Jackson throw away millions of dollars through ignorance. Please someone make him see.

  46. It’s no surprise that teams haven’t lined up to negotiate a deal. The price is too high regarding what they’d have to give up to the Ravens, for starters. Beyond that, said team would have to deal with Lamarr and his mom to ‘negotiate long-term deal. It’s not going to happen. He will likely sit out the entire upcoming season because his mom told him it would be the ‘smart thing to do. Him and his mom drug their feet during the whole draft process prior to the Ravens picking him, so why would they or anyone else think any such process would go smoother this time. Jackson will end up a case referred to in rookie orientation meetings of what NOT to do as a professional athlete making career financial management decisions.

  47. pedrocreek says:
    March 25, 2023 at 3:30 pm
    Sunday Swami says:
    March 25, 2023 at 3:20 pm
    It doesn’t benefit Jackson to hire an agent contrary to the soapbox rants. If Jackson wants the majority of a contract guaranteed and no team is willing to get close to those demands an agent doesn’t change anything. Too many people think the agent decides what to sign, it’s still up to the player whether they decide to sign
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    But at the end of the day, do you honestly think that an NFL athlete is going to be able to negotiate as favorable contract, including guaranteed money, incentives etc., as an experienced NFL certified Agent? It seems quite simple, Lamar should stay in his lane….smh….
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    It’s not about negotiating the “most favorable” contract. For example if Lamar knows he wants 4 years guaranteed and wont sign for any less but all the Ravens offered was 1 or 2, what does an agent do for him? It’s not about “most favorable” contrary to what people want it to be. if he has a line drawn, which he obviously does, and knows that they are no where close to what he’s asked on the 1st point then an agent does nothing. I’m not saying Jackson can write up a contract like an agent, but Jackson knows hes not going to be signing any offers the agent brings him so where exactly is the benefit. That’s the point cause it’s not about getting the best he can get right now, he doesn’t have to sign and that seems to be his thinking that he can wait/play out the tags til he hits free agency and feels he can get his contract. An agent isn’t change his thinking on that

  48. watchoutnfl says:
    March 25, 2023 at 3:42 pm
    “Teams aren’t offering a fully guaranteed contract because they are colluding. Within an hour of Jackson being franchised half the league said they weren’t interested in even asking Jackson how much money he is seeking.”

    Disagree. Half the league said they weren’t interested because they’d already seen what brutal QB contracts have done to teams in recent years. Broncos + Wilson, Cards + Murray, Eagles + Wentz, Colts + Wentz, Colts + Ryan, Rams + Goff, maybe Cowboys + Prescott and the big two: Packers + Rodgers and Browns + Watson. Be honest here, do you really believe the Browns will ever get full value from the Watson contract? The Packers are also in a brutal position except they somehow found a rube (Jets) to take Rodgers and his contract off their hands.
    Huge, guaranteed contract demands immediately turned off several teams. Jackson’s recent play, childish behavior and selfish attitude turned off several more. Show me a QB with the skills, character and attitude of Mahomes, Burrow, Lawrence, Herbert or Allen and I’ll show you teams lining up to sign them. Period

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    How do teams know Jackson wants a “brutal contract” if you don’t even ask? Teams have no idea what how much money it would take. The Rams and Packers won superbowls after giving Rodgers and Goff big money extensions and the eagles came within 3 points unlike Lawrence, Herbert, or Allen. This rants makes no sense. Other than Mahomes, what have the other guys accomplished more than Jackson? They have zero rings, zero MVPs, zero 1st team all pro seasons. Herbert, Allen and Lawrence are not as of passers. None are better runners. None have better winning percentages, Herbert and Burrow have suffered major injuries that required surgery unlike Jackson. Your made up metrics make no sense.

  49. pg33 says:
    March 25, 2023 at 4:18 pm
    I think it is clear, the Ravens don’t want him (vice versa, too). Based off Lamar’s recent behavior (bowing out of playoffs when medically clear, publicly airing laundry, using agents for ideas, using NFLPA… then violating NFLPA rules, etc.), it’s clear the Ravens have been dealing with a difficult person behind closed doors. I don’t blame them for trying to cut bait, especially when you consider they adopted a college offense to allow him to be successful (alienating WRs in the process)—no good deed goes unpunished.

    Baltimore made a miscalculation that other teams would pay the (2) firsts and a contract. Now they are stuck with him for another year.

    ________________________

    “Medically cleared” by who? The internet? Once again you are making things up. Lamar Jackson even played in a pro style offense in college under Bobby Pettrino. Hollywood Brown was top 10 in targets his last season with the Ravens. The street free agents alienated themselves by dropping the highest percentage of passes in NFL history. The Ravens adapted the Lamar Jackson is our only good player offense. And how are the Raven “stuck” when Jackson is even under contract? They could easily move on but they won’t because it’s hard to find a top 3 QB.

  50. The amount of patience and restrain the ravens front office has shown is considerable. They were able to hammer out a contract with Roquan Smith representing himself. It takes a great amount of time and determination to be able to hammer out the details and negotiating of a huge nfl contract like Lamar’s. I don’t know how the negotiating is going but if I had to guess he’s stuck on give me 5 years fully guaranteed. The ravens have sent over several offers which in itself take weeks and weeks to draw up and he simply looks at the bottom line and says no. If that is how the negotiations are going that is kind of rude imo. If he thinks by rejecting every offer that isn’t fully guaranteed that is just shortsighted. It sucks because he has costed himself lots of money and it sucks for the ravens who have spent lots of man hours trying to meet him halfway in negotiations with several offers. If this is in fact how the negotiations are going then it is no way to negotiate. It’s getting to an absurd level. I think you are going to have an upset player who severely has overplayed his hand and an upset organization who is going to have to rebuild the team due to their qb’s refusal to work with them. Nobody wins.

  51. They like who they like. Herbert leads the league in 4th quarter picks, barely above .500 and 0-1 in playoffs after finally making them. Allen makes bonehead mistakes, which are completely ignored and runs just as much as Lamar, but I guess he’s iron man because no one mentions him being injured, but a knee is still a knee. Lawrence has one good season and suddenly he’s the greatest thing since sliced bread. Lamar to his team to the playoffs in his first season while those guys all struggled. And Hurts is totally left out in the above thread. Hmm, I wonder why? If Lamar goes to the NFC, then a Super Bowl berth is given. It will be Hurts, Jackson and Prescott battling it out for years to come. The playoff record wasn’t a thing concerning contract talks until Lamar came along. People are just reaching for anything negative. Never heard mention of Cousins’ or Stafford’s dismal playoff record when it was their contract time. Let’s see if you mention playoffs when Herbert’s contract time comes.

  52. I find it funny how Jackson fans compare him to burrow and say he has no supporting cast, but then pile on Jones even though his supporting cast is just as bad is not worse. The goalposts are moved for that one huh.

  53. At this point, an agent won’t help. He wouldn’t get a big offer being under the tag, and very few teams having draft picks or cap space. His only decision is will he sign the Tag & play for $32M? If he plays under the tag but the Ravens are not in playoff hunt early, and if circumstances arise whereby a contender loses their QB, look for the Ravens to trade him for the right price.

  54. Lamar Jackson will come to regret these decisions he’s making, if he isn’t already.

  55. mikecrabtreeschain….continue to comment. We all laugh at your ignorance. And we all need to laugh more.

  56. bossman says:
    March 25, 2023 at 4:41 pm
    It’s no surprise that teams haven’t lined up to negotiate a deal. The price is too high regarding what they’d have to give up to the Ravens, for starters. Beyond that, said team would have to deal with Lamarr and his mom to ‘negotiate long-term deal. It’s not going to happen. He will likely sit out the entire upcoming season because his mom told him it would be the ‘smart thing to do. Him and his mom drug their feet during the whole draft process prior to the Ravens picking him, so why would they or anyone else think any such process would go smoother this time. Jackson will end up a case referred to in rookie orientation meetings of what NOT to do as a professional athlete making career financial management decisions

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    More likely it will referred to when collusion is discussed in law schools. Name another time in the history of sports when a contract negotiation is 100% based on media reports likely from the Ravens? No one knows how much Lamar jackson is seeking to play for their team and all the teams who tried to acquire Watson have said that they are not going to ask. But even assuming that he does want more money than Watson, 2 first round picks is less than what trey Lance went for. Its nothing. Take the Carolina panthers for example who came out and said Jackson is “too expensive” despite not contacting him to see relying totally on Adam shefters word. They trade 2 firsts 2 seconds and their best offensive player for a lottery ticket. Even if Jackson wants $46 Million a year (which is more than Watson). The lottery ticket will cost $12 million, they are paying DJ Moore $15 million, they are paying Adam Thielen $8 million whom they likely would not have acquired if the kept Moore. So they are saving only $11 million dollars correct? until you add in the value of the second round picks. The Browns in what was generally regarded as a great move that became nick Chubb essentially by buying a second pick for $17 million in the Brock Osweiler trade. So if a second round picks are worth 17 each the panthers are losing money. All actions indicate collusion.

  57. Josh Morgan says:
    March 25, 2023 at 5:18 pm
    The amount of patience and restrain the ravens front office has shown is considerable. They were able to hammer out a contract with Roquan Smith representing himself. It takes a great amount of time and determination to be able to hammer out the details and negotiating of a huge nfl contract like Lamar’s. I don’t know how the negotiating is going but if I had to guess he’s stuck on give me 5 years fully guaranteed. The ravens have sent over several offers which in itself take weeks and weeks to draw up and he simply looks at the bottom line and says no. If that is how the negotiations are going that is kind of rude imo. If he thinks by rejecting every offer that isn’t fully guaranteed that is just shortsighted. It sucks because he has costed himself lots of money and it sucks for the ravens who have spent lots of man hours trying to meet him halfway in negotiations with several offers. If this is in fact how the negotiations are going then it is no way to negotiate. It’s getting to an absurd level. I think you are going to have an upset player who severely has overplayed his hand and an upset organization who is going to have to rebuild the team due to their qb’s refusal to work with them. Nobody wins.
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    No. it’s the Raven mismanagement that lead them essentially made them give Roquan Smith a blank check because they couldn’t use the franchise tag because they failed to sign Lamar jackson. They basic framework for contracts don’t take weeks and they had 2 years to figure this out.

  58. I gotta say that “mikecrabtreeschain” proves that loyalty to a team can make a person blind to facts. Nobody can convince him that Lamar Jackson (with his one whole playoff win) isn’t better than Tom Brady. Delusional. Sad. Pathetic.

  59. Jimmypinthe416 says:
    March 25, 2023 at 5:43 pm
    I find it funny how Jackson fans compare him to burrow and say he has no supporting cast, but then pile on Jones even though his supporting cast is just as bad is not worse. The goalposts are moved for that one huh

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    Whose moving goalposts? Nobody Jones supporting cast was good. Just better than Jackson. Barkley is best weapons on either team and Jones only looks competent when he is healthy. Toney, Golliday, and Evan engram looked much better in other uniforms than they did with Jones. Jones has a slightly better supporting cast and has been a much worse quarterback.

  60. chue says:
    March 25, 2023 at 5:50 pm
    mikecrabtreeschain….continue to comment. We all laugh at your ignorance. And we all need to laugh more

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    That’s cool. Got nothing better to do right now than educate. Notice how no one can ever dispute the facts, reason or logic though.

  61. Funny how the narrative has changed. Last year most analysts were saying Jackson was playing this brilliantly. Now they’re blaming the NFL.

  62. “To work, this approach would require extreme discretion by all involved”

    This is where I laughed.

  63. chue says:
    March 25, 2023 at 6:06 pm
    I gotta say that “mikecrabtreeschain” proves that loyalty to a team can make a person blind to facts. Nobody can convince him that Lamar Jackson (with his one whole playoff win) isn’t better than Tom Brady. Delusional. Sad. Pathetic

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    Loyalty to the facts. I leave the real reason why you guys hate Lamar jackson unspoken and burn down your excuses. You the only fact you guys use is playoff wins. And by that metrics Russell Wilson is better than Joe Burrow and Colin Kaepernick is better than Josh Allen. I’ll leave unspoken until someone admits the Common denominator to all the most hated QBs here.

  64. nite2al says:
    March 25, 2023 at 12:57 pm
    ariani1985 says:
    March 25, 2023 at 12:08 pm

    Why so much attention for an average QB?
    _________________

    Wins 74%, MVP, slew of NFL records including 2 perfect passer rating games in a season, made playoffs 4 out 5 years, beat Mahomes and Burrow the last time he played them, better QBR than Burrow with garbage receivers and most importantly, respected by coaches and players. Burrow missed a full season, not one word said, so disingenuous. I speak facts, you guys speak feelings.

    61215Rate This—— I don’t care if Lamar has some good stats What’s his record in the playoffs? When did Joey B miss an entire season? He missed the end of a season with a torn ACL. Since then he hasn’t missed a single game due to injury. What’s Lamar’s injury record the last two seasons?

  65. Here’s a fact for you “crabby”….Lamar Jackson (and his ONE PLAYOFF WIN) career QB rating = 96.7, Joe Burrow career QB rating = 100.4 (2 AFC Championship Games in his first two full seasons). Accept the FACTS!

  66. pedrocreek says:
    March 25, 2023 at 2:34 pm
    4evrnyt says:
    March 25, 2023 at 12:11 pm
    Complaining that you’re only getting 360million out of your 400million dollar deal is pretty stupid.
    ————————
    Actually at the NFL Agent’s 3% max, it would be $380million at the most!…..smh…
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    SMH. Actually, at 3%, the agent’s take would be 12 million, so Mr. Jackson would have 388 million

  67. chue says:
    March 25, 2023 at 6:56 pm
    Here’s a fact for you “crabby”….Lamar Jackson (and his ONE PLAYOFF WIN) career QB rating = 96.7, Joe Burrow career QB rating = 100.4 (2 AFC Championship Games in his first two full seasons). Accept the FACTS

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    I accept they both have a zero rings. Burrow has zero MVPS and has made Zero All pro teams. Not even a second. You are just alot more impressed moral victories than I am. I get it. Your team has been awful for 30 years and you crave attention.

  68. QBS with a playoff win % under .300 and a playoff passer rating under 70 (min 4 playoff starts). Dalton, Lamar, and Billy Kilmer. Let me know if I missed anyone else.

  69. So, if the Lamar insists on ‘x’ and the Ravens are only willing to pay ‘y’ and ‘x’ is greater than ‘y’ One of the two sides, or both need to move or no deal is made.

    I can respect Lamar’s position, he’s not got Desean Watson’s issues and has achieved more than him, so why shouldn’t he get that contract, BUT I can also respect the (unspoken) Ravens position ‘We’re not going to pay you a significant slice of the cap for five years with no way out if you could get a career ending injury game one next year, we’re not as dumb as the Browns’

    If Lamar was willing to look at it from both sides, there’s probably a deal to be had with three years guaranteed and extra years rolling in to guarantee later, but all evidence suggests he’s put out “I want this” (whatever that is) and is not willing to accommodate the team protecting itself.

    As for the collusion argument, I don’t but it, effectively each team would have to be willing to pay 2 first round picks and more money than the Ravens are willing to for Lamar (otherwise the Ravens just match it) – who would do that, why waste your time and unsettle your QB to get nowhere?

  70. Crabby baby says “you crave attention”! Glorious. He’s got 20 comments on here. He must love to think he knows something. Hey Crabby….you don’t.

  71. bengal4573 says:
    March 25, 2023 at 6:30 pm
    nite2al says:
    March 25, 2023 at 12:57 pm
    ariani1985 says:
    March 25, 2023 at 12:08 pm

    Why so much attention for an average QB?
    _________________

    Wins 74%, MVP, slew of NFL records including 2 perfect passer rating games in a season, made playoffs 4 out 5 years, beat Mahomes and Burrow the last time he played them, better QBR than Burrow with garbage receivers and most importantly, respected by coaches and players. Burrow missed a full season, not one word said, so disingenuous. I speak facts, you guys speak feelings.

    61215Rate This—— I don’t care if Lamar has some good stats What’s his record in the playoffs? When did Joey B miss an entire season? He missed the end of a season with a torn ACL. Since then he hasn’t missed a single game due to injury. What’s Lamar’s injury record the last two seasons?

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    Burrow has missed 7 regular games due to injury. Jackson has missed 11. Not much of a difference especially considering Jackson has played 2 more seasons, Jackson is younger, and Burrow had by far the more serious injury

  72. If you’re the owner, it’s all about the stock’s trajectory. Unfortunately, Jackson’s performance has fallen off. Add the inability to finish the past two seasons as well as questionable judgement of not showing up to support your team in a playoff game. Jackson’s behavior during this contract process has been nothing short of immature. That’s just not someone the owner is going to spend guaranteed money on.

  73. confusedbritfan says:
    March 25, 2023 at 7:33 pm
    So, if the Lamar insists on ‘x’ and the Ravens are only willing to pay ‘y’ and ‘x’ is greater than ‘y’ One of the two sides, or both need to move or no deal is made.

    I can respect Lamar’s position, he’s not got Desean Watson’s issues and has achieved more than him, so why shouldn’t he get that contract, BUT I can also respect the (unspoken) Ravens position ‘We’re not going to pay you a significant slice of the cap for five years with no way out if you could get a career ending injury game one next year, we’re not as dumb as the Browns’

    If Lamar was willing to look at it from both sides, there’s probably a deal to be had with three years guaranteed and extra years rolling in to guarantee later, but all evidence suggests he’s put out “I want this” (whatever that is) and is not willing to accommodate the team protecting itself.

    As for the collusion argument, I don’t but it, effectively each team would have to be willing to pay 2 first round picks and more money than the Ravens are willing to for Lamar (otherwise the Ravens just match it) – who would do that, why waste your time and unsettle your QB to get nowhere?

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    Because just last season the Falcons for example were willing to unsettle a borderline hall of famer for DeShaun Watson. Why would they not unsettle a worst QB in Desmond Ridder for a better QB in Lamar jackson? If Ridder can’t handle Lamar talk in March how is going to handle pressure from Aaron Donald in December? What has Sam Howell accomplished to have his feelings catered to? 2 firsts for any starting QB is a bargain.

    As for the Ravens. It’s been reported they offered $200 million guaranteed. If Jackson suffers a career ending injury at 200 are they really any less screwed than 231? . It’s 100% collusion. The owners don’t want fully guaranteed contracts to become a thing. It’s 32 owners vs 1 player right now. Other QB would have to join in. But no agent would allow that because agent depend on relationships with owners for their careers. Any agent would be blackballed for getting involved. This is real power and corruption not some blown call.

  74. mikecrabtreeschain says:
    March 25, 2023 at 7:50 pm
    Burrow has missed 7 regular games due to injury. Jackson has missed 11. Not much of a difference especially considering Jackson has played 2 more seasons, Jackson is younger, and Burrow had by far the more serious injury. Which makes the fact that Joe Burrow’s accomplishments (a higher career QB Rating, multiple playoff wins compared to Lamar’s single win, Burrow’s all time completion percentage record, two AFC Championship Games the last two seasons) all the more impressive.
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    Finally! Crabby is making sense. Good job. You really CAN be taught. Thank you and good night.

  75. Let’s do some math. 32 teams in the NFL. Let’s remove the ones firmly committed to a QB for this season: Miami, Buffalo, Jets (kinda), Cleveland, Cincy, Jags, Chiefs, Broncos, Chargers, Giants, Eagles, Cowboys, Packers, Vikings, Bears, Lions, Saints, Seahawks, Cardinals and Rams. So, that’s 20 gone out of 32. Down to 12. Now, those that don’t have cap space this season: Commanders, Buccaneers, 49ers, Titans, Raiders. That’s down to 7: Patriots (Really, BB won’t give up 2 draft picks, plus guarantee that money, and he likes Mac Jones), Steelers (The have a young QB that seemed to be on the rise), Baltimore (well…), Texans (At a place to draft a young QB), Colts (Maybe the same thing), Titans (Possible destination, but they may want to see their young QB that they already put draft stock into), Redskins (possibility, but with ownership turmoil, maybe they are afraid of hurting the sale by signing him), Panthers (Young QB on the roster and the first overall pick)
    So, that really only leaves Atlanta. Now do they want to give up TWO first round picks, plus guarantee all that money, plus redo their offense around Jackson or just take a chance with Ridder. Just face it, he’s probably going back to the Ravens.

  76. Lamar has exactly 1 more playoff wins than me! Let that sink in!

    Same number of playoff wins than Marcus Mariota b.t/w There is no “team” in Lamar

  77. it’s one thing not to have an agent when negotiating with one team. Lamar is negotiating with the entire league right now. Please tell me he at least has a lawyer on his team

  78. chue says:
    March 25, 2023 at 6:56 pm

    Here’s a fact for you “crabby”….Lamar Jackson (and his ONE PLAYOFF WIN) career QB rating = 96.7, Joe Burrow career QB rating = 100.4 (2 AFC Championship Games in his first two full seasons). Accept the FACTS!
    __________________

    So did Mark Sanchez. So, what’s your point? 100% players would rather have an MVP trophy than be a Super Bowl loser!

  79. mikecrabtreeschain says:
    March 25, 2023 at 6:12 pm
    chue says:
    March 25, 2023 at 5:50 pm
    mikecrabtreeschain….continue to comment. We all laugh at your ignorance. And we all need to laugh more

    ____________________

    That’s cool. Got nothing better to do right now than educate. Notice how no one can ever dispute the facts, reason or logic though

    ———

    Here are a few facts:

    1) it’s a passing league

    2) Lamar has only manages to pass for over 3000 yards once

  80. chue says:
    March 25, 2023 at 8:31 pm
    mikecrabtreeschain says:
    March 25, 2023 at 7:50 pm
    Burrow has missed 7 regular games due to injury. Jackson has missed 11. Not much of a difference especially considering Jackson has played 2 more seasons, Jackson is younger, and Burrow had by far the more serious injury. Which makes the fact that Joe Burrow’s accomplishments (a higher career QB Rating, multiple playoff wins compared to Lamar’s single win, Burrow’s all time completion percentage record, two AFC Championship Games the last two seasons) all the more impressive.
    ______________________________________________
    Finally! Crabby is making sense. Good job. You really CAN be taught. Thank you and good night.

    ______________________________

    Congrats on achieving things legends like Mark Sanchez and Kerry Collins accomplished. On the Bengals curve that’s really impressive. If Burrow does something multiple Hall of famers have never accomplished like make 1st team all pro, Win an MVP or win a superbowl which (jackson has already accomplished 2/3) you let me know. Chue. Until keep polishing those participation trophies maybe in 30 more years you will “almost” win another superbowl.

  81. nhpats2011 says:
    March 25, 2023 at 9:26 pm
    mikecrabtreeschain says:
    March 25, 2023 at 6:12 pm
    chue says:
    March 25, 2023 at 5:50 pm
    mikecrabtreeschain….continue to comment. We all laugh at your ignorance. And we all need to laugh more

    ____________________

    That’s cool. Got nothing better to do right now than educate. Notice how no one can ever dispute the facts, reason or logic though

    ———

    Here are a few facts:

    1) it’s a passing league

    2) Lamar has only manages to pass for over 3000 yards once

    _____________________________

    And here I am thinking its a winning league. Must be why Derek Carr, Jameis Winston, Carson Wentz and Baker Mayfield are so successful. I bet no team would release those guys.

  82. No. Hiring an agent now would mean he is admitting he was wrong to not hire one in the first place. Also, how you gonna fire your mom?

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