What’s the end game for Lamar Jackson and the Ravens? No one seems to know

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If, as it currently appears, no other team makes a play for quarterback Lamar Jackson, his only viable option in 2023 will be to play for the Ravens. But Jackson currently has no contract with the Ravens.

So, before he can play for the Ravens again, Jackson and the Ravens need to work out a contract — for one or more years before July 17, or for one year only after July 17.

Let’s consider the possible outcomes for the looming negotiations between Jackson and the Ravens.

First, Jackson and the Ravens could agree to a multi-year deal (or a one-year deal) before the July 17 deadline.

Second, Jackson and the Ravens could agree to a one-year contract after the July 17 deadline and before the opening of training camp.

Those are the easy ones. The simple ones. The clean ones. It gets a lot less easy and simple and clean if Jackson and the Ravens don’t work out a contract before camp opens.

The Ravens have extended the non-exclusive franchise tag to Jackson. If/when he accepts it, he gets $32.4 million for 2023. But why would he play for $32.4 million? That number grossly understates his value. And that’s where it becomes critical for the two sides to come up with an arrangement that would pay Jackson more than $32.4 million.

Jackson may want $45 million. That’s what the exclusive franchise tender would have been. He could, in theory, want more than that. After July 17, he can ask for whatever he wants on a one-year deal.

The Ravens could try to come up with a sweetener. One possibility would be to offer a significant per-game roster bonus, incentivizing him to play as many games as possible. At $1 million per game, for example, he’d make up to $49.4 million in 2023.

Whatever it is, they’d have to reach an agreement on a one-year deal. Given that Jackson and the Ravens have spent more than two years unable to reach an agreement on anything, why would anyone presume that a contract would emerge now?

Absent a deal he likes, Jackson could stay away from all of training camp and report just before the start of the regular season, while still earning the full $32.4 million under the franchise tag. He also could skip games, at a cost of $1.8 million per week, eventually showing up by Week 10 or simply not showing up at all.

Given the determination (some would say stubbornness) that Jackson has displayed when it comes to, for example, not hiring an agent, why would he report and play for less than whatever he decides he wants? It would be foolish, then, to ignore the possibility that he could sit out all of 2023.

What would happen next? The Ravens could tag him again in 2024. Because he would have had no earnings for 2023, he wouldn’t get a 20-percent bump over $32.4 million (or whatever his pay ultimately could be), but the base franchise tag at the position for next year.

Which currently is expected to be in the range of $35 million. Even though the market could be upwards of $55 million by 2024.

And then Jackson and the Ravens would do it all over again. Will another team pursue him after he sits out a full year? Will Jackson and the Ravens work out a multi-year deal? If not, will they negotiate a one-year contract?

At some point, one side or the other needs to blink in order to get a deal done. At some point, one side or the other needs to significantly change its position. At some point, Lamar Jackson may to choose between capitulating and not playing.

What if he won’t give in? What if he wants what he wants and he won’t accept a penny less? What if the inexplicable lack of suitors makes him less likely to accept his CBA-driven fate and more likely to say “f–k you, pay me“?

What if his request to be traded by the Ravens means he’ll never play for the Ravens again?

He’s determined. He’s stubborn. If he doesn’t change his thinking, and if the Ravens and/or the rest of the league don’t either, what happens?

Here’s what could happen. And we need to at least keep an eye on this possibility.

Lamar Jackson may never play in the NFL again.

It’s not as crazy as it sounds. It wouldn’t be a sudden and abrupt decision. A consciously and deliberate storming out. It would be the end result of a day-by-day process based on neither Jackson nor the Ravens ever giving in, and no other team ever making a serious run at acquiring his contractual rights.

If Lamar Jackson doesn’t play this year and if he doesn’t play next year, when does he play? When do the Ravens relinquish his rights? When does someone else trade for him? When does he accept the best offer that another team will make?

This isn’t a prediction or a report or anything other than a recognition that this is a very unique and unpredictable situation. Something has to give. Jackson won’t be under contract with anyone until it does.

His career won’t continue until he signs a contract that he’s willing to accept. For now, it can’t be ruled out that he’ll never receive an offer he won’t refuse.

149 responses to “What’s the end game for Lamar Jackson and the Ravens? No one seems to know

  1. Past time to get rid of these franchise tags. Just makes a mess of things and restricts the players from making money. Their earning time is short and shouldn’t be impaired by some silly rule.

  2. “Lamar Jackson may never play in the NFL again.”

    That, I can agree on. While you should never sign a contract you don’t agree with or plan to honor, Lamar is his own worst enemy here.

  3. lamar is not worth 30 million a year.
    .
    his best years are already behind him.

  4. Colts are probably waiting to see how the draft unfolds and maybe make an offer after that, pushing out the draft picks they would have to give up to 2024 and 2025. Perhaps same with some other team as well.

  5. If/when he accepts it, he gets $32.4 million for 2023. But why would he play for $32.4 million? That number grossly understates his value.

    _____________

    Ah yes, why would anyone play football for only $32.4 million for one season.

    And I don’t know about “grossly” understating his value. That would have made him the 7th highest paid player in the NFL in 2022. Pretty sure there are 6 players that are worth more than Lamar.

    If you want to argue his value is greater than $32.4 million per year, fine, but “grossly” undervalued???

  6. Make him play for the $32M. If he doesn’t play tag him again with the same tag. If he doesn’t play again no one will touch him and he’d have to stay in Baltimore and hopefully they’ll finally designate him as what he is, a RB. For those that think he’s a QB (like Fields) answer one question honestly. Do you truly believe if you are down by 14 in the fourth that he can throw you back into it? Not a chance. Even their teams know this as they have the lowest pass percentage even when trailing. Lamar is paid for the play-offs yet he skips playing in them. When he does he just loses because his brand of football can’t win.

  7. If nothing else sign it and show up week 1. Ravens are dirt bags. Good luck getting another top 10 qb the way you treated Lamar.

  8. The chances that he never plays again are going up by the minute. For those who think it’s impossible for such a talent to be out of the game at such a young age, I got two words for you- Colin Kaepernick.

  9. Lamar will hold out. It doesn’t make sense to do that,.. but the manner in which he has been handling the situation,… I think that’s what he will do. HOLD OUT !

  10. Actually you are only worth, as far money goes, what someone is willing to pay you. Just because bob got 2$ doesn’t mean that you should get 2$. Lamar’s problem is he is the headache and he doesn’t even get that. Wow what a simple answer to say. I’m letting my agent figure this stuff out, right now I’m just getting ready to play in 2023 and be the best QB I can be. Lamar has done this to himself so let him figure it out.

  11. Where’s JIM Harbaugh when u need him

    “Who’s trading 2 first round picks and guaranteeing money to Lamar”

    Nobody!!!

  12. No team is going to “meet his value”. If he doesn’t move of his demands then his options are

    Play 1 year for 32.4 million(which isn’t as grossly low as you are pretending considering hi last 2 years)

    Or

    Sit out. I don’t think sitting out again will help him have a team “meet his value” but that’s for his team ,including Mom, to figure out.

  13. I find it funny that so many writers/commentators have put so much calculated thought into Jackson’s motivations and plans.
    Cause it sure looks like Lamar hasn’t had a clue as to the damage he’s been doing with his career/contract for the past few years…

  14. At this point who cares. Each day he continues on this route he’s severely hurting his career. If he wants to continue that way that’s on him. Not sure why this article is implying the ravens have to be hurting to get something done with him. Lamar is the only one who stands to lose big here. The ravens can find another QB who is a much more capable passer and much less of a headache.
    . It’s not a high bar.

  15. At this point, I see Jackson as nothing but a fool. He underestimated what it takes to negotiate and overestimated his value. And the more prime years of his career that go past the less chance he has to make generational money.

  16. Jackson had a much better offer and he turned it down. (Likely a better deal than anybody else will be offering him.) Bridges are burned and the Ravens have little incentive to give him anything more than the franchise tag stipulates. If he decides not to play then it’ll save the Ravens $32 million and be tens of millions more that Jackson will never get back. Jackson has totally backed himself into a corner.

  17. The “end game” is that Lamar finishes his “career” at McDonalds. Probably at a position that DOESN’T include him having to try to interact with customers!

  18. Poor Lamar… with all the terrible things going on in the world, the biggest problem, in his mind, is that the Ravens are ONLY willing to pay him more than 32 million for one year’s work. That’s rough… The greed is unreal with these athletes.

  19. “grossly undervalued”…..lmao….sure dont see anyone breaking their necks to sign him…this site kills me sometimes

  20. What’s the end game for Lamar Jackson and the Ravens? No one seems to know

    And that’s the bitch of it!

  21. Lamar needs to ask himself a simple question……..could I make 32 mil this year doing anything but playing football for the ravens?
    If the answer is no, and it clearly is, then he should sign the tender, play his tail off, and see what he can stack on top of that 32 mil in the future.

  22. Jackson will play for $32+ million because that is the best offer he is going to get NOW. He isn’t worth what he thinks he is or his media and fan backers think he is.

    He is worth exactly what any team (and right now there is only ONE) thinks he is worth and not one cent more.

    If he sits out 2023 he will be worth even less because there is no market for him right now. So after a year where he sits and Huntley STILL gets the Ravens to the playoffs you think he’s going to be worth MORE?

    Yeah right.

    Now that he knows he isn’t worth what he thinks he is, now that he knows he isn’t getting what he wants, it is time for him to sit down with the Ravens and sign a 4 year deal which gets him, let’s say $100 mil in guarantees (makes the math easy, he’d probably get a lot more).

    Why? Because that’s significantly north of what he’s going to get by sitting out or being tagged twice. And if he’s tagged twice he’ll be too worn down and under-performing to get really good money after that.

  23. Seems very odd that the Browns were willing to sell the farm to get Watson, yet no teams perhaps just a QB away from a run at the title steer clear of L Jackson. Must be more to the story than is known out in the public.

  24. Lamar has let the MVP award go to his head. Sorry, Lamar. Sports writers choose the MVP. NFL owners & GMs sign the contracts and write the checks. Start listening to them, not the writers who love you because you give them amazing highlights to gush over, and drama galore to write about.

  25. First pride, then the crash – the bigger the ego, the harder the fall.

    Disappointing too, because as far as any of us bourgeoisie can tell, LJ is an eminently likeable sports star.

  26. “Lamar Jackson may never play in the NFL again.”

    I’m a Ravens fan and I’m OK with that. Actually thrilled!

  27. 45-50 million seems to be a lot to fork over for a running back.

    Zeke was only going to get 10 and he got cut.

  28. “ But why would he play for $32.4 million? That number grossly understates his value”

    ———-
    How do you figure that? It could grossly over estimate his value. Given his postseason history, the Ravens are basically paying Jackson to play and win around 10 games next season. Is he worth $3.2M per win?

  29. Last time I checked it’s always better to receive 60% ($32 Million) of “Something” versus 100% ($45 Million) of nothing.

    Lamar needs to play the “Kirk Cousins” game. Sign & Play on the Franchise Tag

  30. 32 million sounds about right to me. Just because certain teams broke the QB market doesn’t mean that everyone else needs to follow suit. The Ravens would rather let him walk than commit cap space in future years when they don’t feel confident he will be worth it.

  31. He probably will say “F me pay me” Jacksons situation should give pause to other prima donna football players. I know each situation is unique…but LJ & his mom could not have done a worse job… this has now turned into a charade. Karma can be a bitch. Looks like Action Jackson will find this out…probably later rather then sooner.

  32. The most likely option is he signs a contract and has an injury. Similar to last year, he can not play bacause he is less than 100%. No sense risking an injury in a contract year.

  33. I do understand both sides, players wanting guaranteed money, owners wanting to forgo the risk of boxing themselves in. Cousins took a 3 year guarantee and no one blinked because his skillset was a pocket passer, who never got hurt. Lamar is not a pocket passer and no one knows if he can do that. His amazing skill is running and passing probably in that order. Yes, he was an MVP that was years ago and the Ravens won championships with Flaco and Dilfer. Teams are now focused on building great rosters around QB’s on their first contract and that trend will probably continue unless you are a top 5. Lamar, needs to meet in the middle with like a 3 year guarantee, then he can have a third contract. Each day that goes by makes it tougher for him.

  34. If he were to “only” make $32.4 million a year for the next 5 years, he could not spend it in a normal lifetime. To say anyone is grossly underpaid at $32.4 million is showing how we have been accustomed to these inflated salaries.

  35. “Mr. Jackson, the XFL is calling on Line 1. Oh, and the USFL is calling on Line 2. The AAF is calling on Line 3…wait, that line got disconnected.”

  36. If Lamar Jackson never plays again, it’s his doing…………

    Lamar Jackson needs to accept what his market value is. The Ravens have afforded him that opportunity as opposed to locking him into the organization this year.

    He needs to come to terms that he will not get a fully guaranteed long term contract.

    I say bet on yourself like Cousins did with the Redskins at the time.

    Go year to year guaranteed if you have to.

  37. I disagree that $32.4M grossly understates his value. To the contrary, I think it’s about right.

  38. I almost always side with the players in contract negotiations but it seems like Jackson has unrealistic expectations, at least based on what has been reported. We have no idea what is going on behind in private. It feels a bit like Leveon Bell who I think misplayed his hand and didn’t benefit financially from sitting out a year.

  39. Cold but true. Excellent, even-handed, level headed report on the possibilities. Good article.

  40. The short game is either that Lamar caves and plays on the franchise tag and is probably a free agent next or he sits out and his decline is even more pronounced than it already is (unless he uses that year to learn how to pass the ball). Either way, in the long-term he will never sniff that guaranteed contract. If he sits out and the ravens let him become a free agent next year he will have even less leverage than he does now which is basically zero. The farther he gets from his 2019 MVP the more it will be seen as an anomaly since he cannot seem to win big games or even play well in them. My guess is that next year he will get whatever he can from a sorry Commanders team with a new owner who wants to make a splash and will drift into irrelevancy. In five years he will be the most exciting backup in the league.

  41. At the moment it looks like he‘s playing for the Ravens or no one else next year and it looks more likely he‘s not playing at all next year.
    It looks like he‘s Kaepernicked, but I can’t fault the owners letting him know that he‘s not doing business the way they are willing to go along with. The Ravens played this well: they let somebody else do the negotiating and they are willing to let him go. The other owners don’t want to risk signing him and let the Ravens match their offer or simply don’t believe in him that much that they would give two first rounders for him. The teams that would sign him don’t have the cap room (Rams, Dolphins,…).

  42. So let me get this situation straight. An injury prone player wants a team to give him a fully guaranteed contract, plus give up two first round picks to the Ravens for the ‘privilege’ of having him as their quarterback. Teams, who by the way just saw how well this same type of move worked out for the Browns, are certainly not willing to be part of the ‘Lamar fiasco’. The sports media, who are totally clueless about actual sports strategy, stupidly claims teams should be falling all over themselves to sign Jackson. I say that Baltimore should hold firm, and if anything, the lack of interest the rest of the NFL has in signing Jackson should make them think twice about giving him a long term deal.

  43. The fact that the Jets won’t even pretend that Jackson is an option to drive down the price for Rodgers is All the proof I find necessary for collusion. The Ravens actions have always seemed like they knew something nobody else did and it was they are going to send a message to the rest of the player about fully guaranteed contracts especially with so many QBs looking for contract extensions.

  44. What’s going to happen is he is going to play for 32 million. It’s as much money as he has made in his entire career to this point. No way he leaves it on the table. And it’s fair actually.

  45. Frankly it doesn’t seem like he wants to be there or maybe he just has his mind on his money and his money on his mind. Pretty sure he already turned down a contract that would set him and generations after him up for life. Sometimes you need to realize when enough is enough.

  46. Stubbornness.
    Ego.
    Spite.
    Feelings.
    Resentment.

    Professional athletes foster all of these traits to gain a psychological edge on the field. In the conference room, however, they are practically guaranteed to prevent a deal being signed.

    THAT is why players need agents. They need a third party on their side to honestly evaluate value and the market and to unemotionally negotiate.

    I’m sure LJ thinks he is right and believes he is justified in his position. I’ll be interested in hearing what he thinks in 2043 if he quits football because “no one respects my value”.

  47. Jackson will grudgingly accept the non-exclusive franchise tag of $32.4 million for 2023. As we have seen, this number does not grossly understate his value. He will play one year in Baltimore. In 2024, Baltimore will not franchise him a second time (too $$$) and he will become a FA getting the long term deal that he wants. This is the “Kirk Cousins” game as described above. Perfectly clear.

  48. “Grossly understates” is grossly incorrect. “Slightly understates” could be right. This is capitalism, services are worth people are willing to pay for them. And it’s very clear no one is willing to pay him more than $32 mil a year, not matter how much he or the media whines about it.

  49. Here’s what I know.

    The Ravens have offered Jackson $32 million for one year. If a person were to make $320K/yr, it would take that person 100 years to make what Jackson will make in one year.

    Does he have a brain cell working?

  50. Lame just finished writing “The Dummies Guide to Contract Negotiating”. He is now the documented dumbest dummy to ever write such a book and as such it should be viewed as a “how not to” guide. He has burned both ends of a bridge and left himself standing on the center piling without any hope but jumping. Great job, you big dummy!

  51. I don’t get all the negativity. Lamar knows he wants and so do the Ravens. There are a lot of unique situations surrounding this deal, but to call him an idiot is way off base, especially since the outcome of this has not been determined. He can push a button and he gets 42 mil a year just like that, but if he wants more or better terms, that’s on him. I’m a Ravens’ fan and I’m not overly concerned about it either way, but I am enjoying the show. I admire a man sticking to his principles. It’s his life, not yours.

  52. I have to laugh at the idiots who think Baltimore did Lame dirty. They tailored an entire offense around his ONLY skill – running. While they wasted millions on wide receivers paid to watch Lame run, he is ONLY able to run. He can’t read a defense and is slow to process what is on the field and doesn’t wait for passing routes to develop. He is a selfish player. The Baltimore team tolerated him and he is a dumber version of Kirk Cousins with the same number of playoff wins.

  53. Lamar Jackson clearly has no love for the game. You play Football because (A) You Love It (B) To win that Trophy. If you are only in it for the money you dont belong

  54. My prediction: He sits out. Ravens are not going to give him a massive guaranteed contract. No team, barring a retirement, is going to have the cap space to sign him. After the draft everyone is pretty locked in to their roster and cap. Next year we repeat the same thing. The only way he gets traded is before or during the draft.

  55. I saw somebody blame guys like Patrick Mahomes for not demanding a fully guaranteed contract. Patrick Mahomes loves the game. Patrick Mahomes clearly picked playing over money. Patrick Mahomes wants that trophy. Money can come in many other forms thats not a guaranteed contract. Patrick Mahomes & others understand this. Lamar Jackson does not

  56. The lack of an active market for Lamar Jackson, is not inexplicable at all. The only thing inexplicable is his decision making process. Until that changes, nothing is going to change.

  57. You are only worth what someone is willing to pay you.
    As of today he is “only” worth $32.4 million a year
    per the Ravens tag. He is undervalued based
    on PFT’s opinion and maybe some others. He
    obviously overstated his value.

  58. mikecrabtreeschain says:
    March 30, 2023 at 11:48 am
    The fact that the Jets won’t even pretend that Jackson is an option to drive down the price for Rodgers is All the proof I find necessary for collusion. The Ravens actions have always seemed like they knew something nobody else did and it was they are going to send a message to the rest of the player about fully guaranteed contracts especially with so many QBs looking for contract extensions.

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    Im pretty sure the Ravens knew anyone taking him owes them 2 first round picks. Pretty sure the Jets knew that too. Granted Green Bay’s price has stayed high too. What the Jets did was see who blinks, and also knowing the the draft pick compensation is not a negotiable iitem. Pretty sure every team knew that in fact.

  59. Passing yards, rushing yards, touchdowns, etc. are statistics that cannot be argued. Being voted MVP is subjective and therefore meaningless.

  60. LJ would be a FOOL to sit out a year and not take the $32.4 million, but it would not surprise me at all if his “agent” talks him out of it.

  61. “But why would he play for $32.4 million? That number grossly understates his value.”

    The “grossly understates” aspect is somewhat debatable, but even if one accepts that $45-$50 million year is an accuracte assessment of his market value, does he really end up with more money in the bank if he foregoes $32.4 million and sits ala Le’Veon Bell? Right now, teams are not lining up to sign Jackson, so why would sitting out help his cause? Sign a one- year deal and show the critics that they are wrong.

  62. His value is not what HE thinks it is. It’s what the market will bear. If I was the Ravens and Lamar refuses to sign the one year tag contract, I would offer him a 4 year contract for an average of $29 million per year.

  63. As a Ravens fan, I know I can’t tolerate this drama for the rest of this year and all of next year. I’m sick of it already.

  64. Mahomes 2023: He’ll be paid about 40,000,000 (if I’m to believe what I found online)

    If Jackson were to play for 32.4 million, I’d say that’s about right – comparatively speaking.

  65. This is so sad it’s almost heartbreaking. This clown has messed this up so bad it’s pathetic. And he is not only hurting himself. I would hate to be him a decade or decades from now when his child or grandchild sits on his knee and says “thanks Dad, Thanks grandpop. You really screwed that up”

  66. “no one seems to know” certainly hasn’t stopped anybody from producing multiple articles per day on the back of some vague, cryptic tweets by a man child

  67. I feel bad for Ravens fans because Baltimore offered Lamar a more than generous guaranteed offer and he and/or his mother refused it. Now through not hiring an NFL recognized representative he’s backed himself into a corner with one way out – to sit out 2023. If I’m Harbaugh I say enough of this BS and start planning on my QB2 as my starter and turn the page on Lamar Jackson and his idiocy.

  68. TheRandomOne says:
    March 30, 2023 at 12:06 pm
    I saw somebody blame guys like Patrick Mahomes for not demanding a fully guaranteed contract. Patrick Mahomes loves the game. Patrick Mahomes clearly picked playing over money. Patrick Mahomes wants that trophy. Money can come in many other forms thats not a guaranteed contract. Patrick Mahomes & others understand this. Lamar Jackson does not

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    Amen to that

  69. That gym commercial, full of f-bombs and rude curses. Who is Lamar selling himself to? As a Ravens fan from Baltimore City, I guess i am not in the right demographic anymore.

  70. TheRandomOne says:
    March 30, 2023 at 12:06 pm
    I saw somebody blame guys like Patrick Mahomes for not demanding a fully guaranteed contract. Patrick Mahomes loves the game. Patrick Mahomes clearly picked playing over money. Patrick Mahomes wants that trophy. Money can come in many other forms thats not a guaranteed contract. Patrick Mahomes & others understand this. Lamar Jackson does not
    ___________________________________

    These two men do not have the same path. Mahomes comes from money, but still it’s a personal choice. Why not leave it up to them and not cast stones. Mahomes was hoodwinked in my estimation. The team still lost Tyreek Hill. These owners and GMs have you guys so fooled with all this salary cap and team friendly deal nonsense. They can move money around ten ways to Sunday and at the same time lining their pockets off of these players. How many of are going to take a pay cut, so the company you work for can be #1? Thought so.

  71. Lamar: It’s going to take at least $45M to fix this haircut.
    Ravens: Damn, did you cut your own hair too?

  72. There is also a scenario where Jackson signs his tender and suffers a series of minor injuries, muscular in nature so they don’t show up on medical imaging, that lead Jackson to not play because he isn’t “100% healthy”. That way, Jackson gets paid a lot of money and sticks it to the Ravens until they trade or cut him.

  73. TV contracts pay the bills, not season ticket holders.

    The latest broadcast contracts are worth over 100 BILLION bucks, but Lamar is greedy? No, he just knows his worth. He puts butts in seats and eyes on TV screens and should be rewarded accordingly.

  74. I think if they can’t work out a long term deal (which I don’t think they will), Baltimore should offer him a one year deal at the pro-rated value of their best offer to him. So if they offered $133 for 3 years, offer $44.3 million for one year.

  75. The only reason any of this is a possibility is because the guy would lose to a spoon in a butter cutting contest.

  76. Carolina could trade the first pick in the draft for an extra first rounder and some change then trade for Lamar 🤷‍♂️

  77. Lamar can do anything he wants. He should be looking at hiring an agent or negotiate, a deal in the range of 40-50 Million if he can get it. Do a deal for three years and then renegotiate. He is not getting a fully guaranteed contract. The current franchise tag is more than he has made in entire football career. Cousins played on two franchise tags and still ended up getting a guaranteed contract. LJ is better than Cousins, and possibly Watson but life is not fair, just because someone else gets a guaranteed contract does not mean you will/should get one. As a Steelers fan, I hope he sits out, I am here for the dysfunction of the Rat birds.

  78. Just trade him already. If someone offers a first round pick, a couple of conditional second round picks and maybe a third rounder, take it and move on.

  79. Heck of a hill to die on. If he never played again, he’d truly confirm what most people now only suspect. He flunked elementary school math and never caught up.

  80. If indeed the Ravens offered $132M for three years guaranteed, Jackson should have taken it. The Ravens know exactly what happens when a team sandbags themselves due to a oversized contract (Flacco), and they aren’t going to do it again. Three years is just about right given the observable “athletic window” of a scrambling quarterback at this point in their career. As for ‘grossly undervalued,’ no, he isn’t. Not being available for the very important final third of two straight seasons far outweighs being awarded NFL MVP several years ago. Cam Newton was awarded the NFL MVP in Feb. 2016 yet was released just over 4 years later. In a similar manner Jackson has a year left: he’ll sign the tag and play for $32M vs. not sign and not play for zero. Then the real fun begins.

  81. The difference between Patrick Mahomes and Lamar Jackson, aside from the obvious QB skill level gap, is that Mahomes is also making money through endorsements that his AGENT gets him.
    Jackson turning down $44.33 million/yr over 3 years was a bad move when Mahomes is averaging $45 million/yr. Jackson overvalued himself and is going to pay dearly for it.

  82. Sign it. That’s 32m, then advise $1m per games played or will see u At training camp, then next year if tag him add 20% per rules; then play last year, then walk.

  83. bradygirl12 says:
    March 30, 2023 at 11:24 am
    Poor Lamar… with all the terrible things going on in the world, the biggest problem, in his mind, is that the Ravens are ONLY willing to pay him more than 32 million for one year’s work. That’s rough… The greed is unreal with these athletes.
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    I’m not sure what you’re talking about. Lamar’s (or any pro athlete’s) focus is his vocation, not “the world”. People are so quick to call players “greedy”, but give the billionaire owners a pass all the time. The real world has no bearing on the NFL or how its athletes are paid. A business with huge revenue pays huge salaries to its stars. That’s not the same world you and I live in, and it’s pointless to compare the two.

  84. fsstnotch says:
    March 30, 2023 at 1:08 pm
    The difference between Patrick Mahomes and Lamar Jackson, aside from the obvious QB skill level gap, is that Mahomes is also making money through endorsements that his AGENT gets him.

    ————-

    Have you listened to Lamar speak? Unless it’s a silent cameo nobody is going to use the guy for endorsements….

  85. Lamar accepted employment into the NFL under the CBA. He could have negotiated and signed a deal 2 years ago meaning he would have those dollars in the bank invested earning more dollars and not playing with the risk. He would be entering his third year with an eye towards his third contract. That is what a smart business person does. Lamar unfortunately has been one business train wreck and tweet after another. He has devalued himself to the point that the Ravesn can’t get any value for him since he has become a disrupter having missed many practices last year. Hopefully he understands the mess he is in and replaces pride with business logic and rebuilds his value for himself and the team that drafted him. Oh yeah maybe he can find a self made billionaire to give him some advice.

  86. He will defeat Thanos, save the universe and then just play football for fun. That’s his end game.

  87. Lamar wants to play football. He loves the game, by all accounts. I can’t see a scenario I which he walks away. He has an anti-establishment streak for sure, and a huge chip on his shoulder re: compensation, some poor economic judgement, but he is a baller at heart, not a revolutionary.
    End game: I see him re-signing with the Ravens. That’s where the money on the table is.

  88. The real problem is, Jackson will be unhappy – and make sure everyone on the Ravens know he is unhappy- unless he gets his way, like a child throwing a temper tantrum. 99% of people paying attention to this story believe Jackson needs an agent – Jackson doubles down on his refusal to hire one. He doesn’t handle criticism well. He holds grudges. He can’t be bothered to support his team by traveling with them to a playoff game, because he wasn’t playing. And because Jackson isn’t happy, he will make sure everyone around him is miserable as well.

  89. It certainly does not grossly understate his value. He is 1-3 in the playoffs. Not to mention bagging his team last year. I would say he is overpriced if anything.

  90. Why is everybody saying he shot himself in the foot by not having an agent? It’s his career and his money, if he’s comfortable representing himself and all that brings so be it. It’s really none of our business. Maybe in his mind he’s made enough money for a good life and he wants to stand on principle even if he never plays again. Kaepernick did it and he’s comfortable with it.

  91. inexplicable lack of suitors? Giving up significant draft capital and a huge contract for a player that has NEVER played a full season and has shown a massive amount of ego. You can find a headstrong diva in every draft that can run the football from the QB position. And it’ll cost less than ANY Lamar deal.

  92. I think you hit the nail on the head. If a team like the Colts don’t trade for him, I don’t think he ever plays again. The trolls should be happy. They have all of these superstars like Derek Carr to look at, lol. You know. They watch the games for the owners and the uniforms. The Ravens revealed their hand. they wanted to run him into the ground like Cam newton without paying him like Cam Newton, and Jackson isn’t playing ball with the plan. They keep saying his style of play is unsustainable, but it’s very good now at 26 unless you think QBs winning 75% of their games is the norm. So he’s right to ask for $50 mil a year the next four years until then. You can revisit it again in 2027 if that’s your concern or do what you probably are thinking you’ll do anyway,dump him once he’s out of his prime to run like he does to go with his passing.

  93. Lamar Jackson, Esquire, Attorney At Law, is in his conference room studying his 100-page legal contract and he would like to discuss page 47, paragraph 3, section IV, lines 16-17, indemnification & intellectual property, responsibilities of Party A & Party B, pursuant to Page 15, paragraph 9, Section III, lines 21-21, to wit …

  94. kohila says:
    March 30, 2023 at 11:14 am
    Make him play for the $32M. If he doesn’t play tag him again with the same tag. If he doesn’t play again no one will touch him and he’d have to stay in Baltimore and hopefully they’ll finally designate him as what he is, a RB. For those that think he’s a QB (like Fields) answer one question honestly. Do you truly believe if you are down by 14 in the fourth that he can throw you back into it? Not a chance. Even their teams know this as they have the lowest pass percentage even when trailing. Lamar is paid for the play-offs yet he skips playing in them. When he does he just loses because his brand of football can’t win

    __________________________________________
    You can believe whatever you want as people tend to do when it comes to Lamar jackson but I believe the facts which say you are wrong. This has nothing to do with on field performance. This is a labor dispute about fully guaranteed contracts

    Since LJ became starter in W11 of 2018 there have been 25 QBs with at least 50 dropbacks in 4th quarter, 1-score, 2-min situations

    Among the 25 QBs, LJ ranks
    No. 2 in QBR (100)
    No. 3 in Comp%
    12 in yards per pass attempts
    Second-most rush yards of ANY player in same situation

  95. At this point he’s not going to hire an agent. It would be an admission of foolishness. Sad that his stubbornness is costing him tens of millions of dollars. He can’t possibly be willing to tank his career over having an agent, can he?

    Can he?

  96. I agree with others, this is a bit premature. There’s a decent chance Indy waits until after the draft to make an offer. They might offer less than what the Ravens offered, and he might take it out of spite (if I’m Lamar, I’d rather be in Indy’s offense earning incentives). But I don’t agree with the notion that Jackson is being grossly underpaid. He’s had 1 bad year, 1 amazing year, 1 very good year, and 2 mediocre years. He was mediocre in 2 contract years. The performance arrow has been pointing down and he is starting to break down. Teams aren’t foolish.

  97. “Why is everybody saying he shot himself in the foot by not having an agent? …It’s really none of our business.” It IS your business, because you are a sports fan and YOU clicked into this story and YOU felt strongly enough to comment. That is dollar signs in an industry that exists around the sport. THAT is all of our business. Perhaps more importantly is the fact that Lamar is CLEARLY not happy with his financial position and that’s the core of this whole situation. And more than that, he’s CLEARLY already lost out on millions of potential dollars by not doing a deal two years ago.

  98. bordercollie says:
    March 30, 2023 at 12:53 pm
    Just trade him already. If someone offers a first round pick, a couple of conditional second round picks and maybe a third rounder, take it and move on.

    ==========================================================================

    Baltimore would love trade him, but none of the other teams want to “meet his value” so the other teams aren’t going to trade for a guy they can’t sign.

  99. mikecrabtreeschain says:
    March 30, 2023 at 2:22 pm

    You can believe whatever you want as people tend to do when it comes to Lamar jackson but I believe the facts which say you are wrong. This has nothing to do with on field performance. This is a labor dispute about fully guaranteed contracts.

    —————

    I don’t really agree with you, but you have to concede that the owners are no doubt fine with fully guaranteed contracts for 1%, 10%, or maybe even 15% of the cap ($33.8 million this year), it’s the 20% or 22% of the cap that a $45 or $50 million contract represents.

    If you can admit that to yourself, that this is an issue of magnitude, not principle, perhaps you can see that this isn’t some scheme by a management bloc but legitimate concerns about tying up that much cap, for that long, in a player with his recent injury history.

  100. The end game is that he becomes Colin Kaeprnick 2.0. Sits out next season and becomes irrelevant.

  101. Among the 25 QBs, LJ ranks
    No. 2 in QBR (100)
    No. 3 in Comp%
    12 in yards per pass attempts
    Second-most rush yards of ANY player in same situation

    ———-

    Then why aren’t teams jumping to sign him?

  102. I’ll repeat what I have written on this subject again…….even if it gets expunged from the conversation. The Ravens are one of the best run, and smartest organizations in all of Americans pro sports. They know what they are doing, and they are doing it with intent of NOT PAYING A QB THAT CANNOT WIN WITH HIS ARM IN THE LONG RUN. They have gotten by and stayed competitive with the athletic running style QB, but they KNOW THEY WILL NEVER WIN THE BIG PRIZE WITH A QB that cannot consistently beat teams thru the Air. The Ravens need to cross this bridge this off season. They are doing it as we speak. And they hope that they can take multiple #1 picks from a competitor that is silly enough to give that to them for the QB that cannot beat NFL teams consistently enough via Passing the football. Period. There is NO IMPASSE here. The Ravens are making the decision they have to make to move forward. And I note how many other NFL teams have come running thru a brick wall to try and be the top (errr….only) bidder for that same players services.

  103. Aren’t we all getting sick of this B.S. situation. I say: If he don’t want to play.

  104. lamar knowing his worth is great in lamarland but not in the nfl it seems. we all feel we are worth more than we get paid by our employer, and it is everyones perogative to ask for more, but when your owner or industry says NO then you have 2 choices. first, quit and do something else or second, take what the industry is willing to pay you.

    most of us are in much different situations then these players but when you peel it away we are all just a commodity to an employer and some commodities are more expensive than others. there is always someone waiting in line for your job and they will usually do it for less. This is what lamar is finding out the hard way, his style of play the good and bad(mostly bad) that comes with it are not in demand.

    there does not seem to be a lot of demand for an injury prone running qb who can’t thrive in a normal offense and who’s stats are not on the level of his peers.

    lamar feeling he is too good to play on the tag for 32M is a joke, it has to be. how many other players have played on the tag while trying to get a long term deal done, but that is not good enough for lamar the great. if he is so sure of himself why doesn’t he bet on himself like Flacco did way back when?? His excuse for not betting on himself is that he is afraid of getting hurt without a long term/guaranteed contract and not being able to take are of his family.

    By my estimated calculations(i am rounding up) he has earned 10M during his time in the NFL, has a deal with Oakley(which we dont know value of), then add 32M for playing this season on the tag and you get a total of 42M without Oakley. lets ballpark Oakley at an estimated 3M, so that means he has earned 45M by the time he is 27.

    if the worst case scenario happens(and i hope it does not) and he gets a career ending injury this season he will have earned and estimated 45M, if you cant take care of your family with that much $ then something is wrong. 99% of the population take care of our familes on a hell of a lot less. so i dont want to hear that argument anymore.

    look at his stats as a whole, not cherry picking certain numbers and you see he is an average qb. 1 stat i love seeing is how many times he is saked, his amazing athletic ability does not stop him from getting sacked a lot.

  105. The Ravens, it would seem, have offered the ‘Value” for the player, as no one has matched what they already offered (still unclear if they ever changed last year’s offer that he turned down). Whatever they offered, he asked to be traded as he said he’s worth more in his mind (we know how well that is working). The Ravens can’t keep the $32.4 mil cap space on ice forever. So either he signs after camp is over or just before season starts (why would he pass on $32.4 when he could rightly say he’s not ready to play yet, etc.). At some point Ravens would release him, you think. Can’t hold 13-14% of the cap open for a guy who won’t play. Then he can sign some very minimal deal for this year as a backup and maybe start later in year. Stats won’t be good, so won’t help him in his quest for bigger bucks. And I’m sure most of the rest of the league doesn’t care much for his decision making skills but gladly pick him up on the cheap with no compensation due. Then we’ll see if he really is dug in and just refuses to sign. What teams out there need a QB, are willing to redo O around his skill set, and have the cap space for anything near what he wants? (I’m asking, I don’t know all the teams’ situations)

  106. “What’s the end game for Lamar Jackson and the Ravens?”]

    Divorce. Unreconcilable differences.

  107. Even if Lamar is worth what he thinks he’s worth, teams, besides the Ravens, would have to pay that plus two firsts. NOBODY is dumb enough to do that.

  108. look at this, derek carr is not loved as a franchise qb by many and does not get much respect so lets look at a few numbers since 2019 when lamar took over as starter

    games played: lamar- 54/ carr- 64
    sack %: lamar- 7.4%/ carr- 5,4%
    qbr: lamar- 96.7/ carr- 95.6
    int’s: lamar- 38/ carr- 45
    passing attempts: lamar- 1485/ carr- 2158
    interception %: lamar-2.3%/ carr- 2%

    and here is the tell tale stat
    game winnig drives: lamar- 9/ carr- 17

    come on now and tell me he is worth 50M per year. his numbers are average, the only stat that isa bove average for qb’s is games missed due to injury

  109. He should switch to his natural position- running back.
    ——————
    This is a fallacy. If we entertain your suggestion, Lamar would probably be a WR. Lamar is least suited to play HB. The benefit to playing WR would be getting hit by DBs and occasionally LBs. Playing QB and HB, you are getting hit by DL and LBs. He is not built to take a pounding from DL and LBs, few if any are.

  110. monarch76 says:
    March 30, 2023 at 11:14 am
    If nothing else sign it and show up week 1. Ravens are dirt bags. Good luck getting another top 10 qb the way you treated Lamar.

    ===

    The way they treated him? They offered $133 million guaranteed to a guy who’s never won anything and hasn’t even finished the last two seasons.

  111. I’m hoping he sits this one out. He has an inflated opinion of himself that is not shared by the rest of the sane world. It would be better for the Ravens to let him go and play the backup than to mortgage the next 10 years on a bad signing.

  112. End game is BAL withdraws the tag
    LJ gets picked up by Colts (or maybe another team)
    He gets substantially less than what he’s asking for

  113. Lamar should get Leveon Bell to act as his agent. That should simplify things. 🙂

  114. nhpats2011 says:
    March 30, 2023 at 2:54 pm
    Among the 25 QBs, LJ ranks
    No. 2 in QBR (100)
    No. 3 in Comp%
    12 in yards per pass attempts
    Second-most rush yards of ANY player in same situation

    ———-

    Then why aren’t teams jumping to sign him?

    ____________________

    Collusion

  115. end game is he re-signs with the ravens, but the ravens being a classy organization will sweeten the deal a little so he can save face with the social media world and he can show the world you dont need an agent when you have a momager!

  116. The end game is that he becomes Colin Kaeprnick 2.0. Sits out next season and becomes irrelevant.
    ——————
    There are some striking similarities. Kaepernick was a huge pain in the 49ers butt. His stats were in decline and he was breaking down. I always believed Kaepernick started a ruckus, in part, because he knew his QB1 days were long gone—he’d rather manufacture an exit than fail miserably. After all, Kap was the one who terminated his contract with 49ers. Lamar is a much better player and I doubt he’ll resort to making money by calling his parents racist for telling him to get a haircut.

  117. But why would he play for $32.4 million? That number grossly understates his value.

    ***********

    This is incorrect. Lamar’s union negotiated the rules for franchise tag values. It is based on the top 5 QB salaries averaged over the previous 5 years. If you want argue that Lamar has been a top 5 QB during that time then this is a fair value for him, considering his union agreed to the number. If you want to argue that Lamar has not been a top 5 QB then he would be OVERVALUED at the $32M.

    But in no way shape or form is Lamar being undervalued at $32M.

  118. mikecrabtreeschain says:
    March 30, 2023 at 3:50 pm
    nhpats2011 says:
    March 30, 2023 at 2:54 pm
    Among the 25 QBs, LJ ranks
    No. 2 in QBR (100)
    No. 3 in Comp%
    12 in yards per pass attempts
    Second-most rush yards of ANY player in same situation

    ———-

    Then why aren’t teams jumping to sign him?

    ____________________

    Collusion

    ———-

    Teams not wanting to retool their offenses to accommodate Lamar’s limited skill set is not collusion

  119. doubled61,

    They used to be. Decosta’s drafts have been mediocre at best. He hasn’t found pass rusher. He hasn’t found receivers. The offensive line has gone from one of the best in the league to average.
    Jackson has put a lot of deodorant on his draft misses. Newsome used to restock their talent well wit draft picks. Decosta is failing in this role. I have other news for Raven fans. Harbaugh isn’t going to be there this time next year regardless of the outcome. At the end of the day, the things that made the Ravens successful won’t be there anymore. Newsome, Harbaugh, and Jackson all won’t be there in a calendar year, and you’re just going to be left with a mediocre GM and a low key crazy owner, who is the root of all of this to begin with because believe me, the football people would have signed him months ago. Should make you happy though. You all cheer for your owners and your uniforms, lol.

  120. This article makes many points that just don’t make sense. The first is that they need to without a contract for Lamar to play. He can just play on the offered tag.

  121. The Ravens certainly don’t know .. as their QB is currently negotiating by Twitter

  122. I do love Lamar’s stans on this thread really twisting themselves trying to make it seem like Lamar has played this right. Just in the same way they try to tell us he’s actually good in the post season, and he’s not a turnover machine, and his MVP 5 years ago still means a lot today! I know, the reality has hit Lamar and his fans pretty harshly. But it’s not surprising as nearly everyone in football knows he’s a horribly flawed QB and his performance is all smoke and mirrors.

  123. Next comes the collusion lawsuit, no doubt. I wonder if he will represent himself.

  124. Just because Jimmy Haslem made a terrible mistake doesn’t mean the rest of the league has to.

  125. Seems very odd that the Browns were willing to sell the farm to get Watson, yet no teams perhaps just a QB away from a run at the title steer clear of L Jackson. Must be more to the story than is known out in the public.

    —————–

    The story here is that the Browns were idiots to sign Watson to that contract. Pretty much everyone is in agreement there.

  126. If Lamar had an agent, he could have negotiated an early contract extension, and depending on the length of it he could be ready for a new contract in a couple of years. he would already have money in his pocket. Instead he is losing money by the day.

    In 2020 Patrick Mahomes signed a team friendly 10 year, $450,000,000 contract with the Kansas City Chiefs, including a $10,000,000 signing bonus, $141,481,905 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $45,000,000.

    Mahomes puts the team first, plays injured, has 2 SB rings, 2 league MVPS, and 2 SB MVPS. Lamar can’t finish a season, puts himself above his team, and is trashing his reputation and soon his entire career. Lamar is not worth more than Mahomes. Someone should tell him.

  127. duffelbagsports says:

    Why is everybody saying he shot himself in the foot by not having an agent? It’s his career and his money, if he’s comfortable representing himself and all that brings so be it.
    __________________________________________________________________________________

    Lamar has failed to learn an important life lesson. You pay people to look out for your interests in areas where you are not equipped to do it yourself. You pay a mechanic to fix your car if you are not mechanically inclined. You pay a real estate agent to look out for your interests when you are buying a house, if you are not adept with real estate transactions. You pay a lawyer to represent you in court, if you have to go to court and have any sense at all. In any area where you do not have expertise, the problem isn’t what you don’t know, the problem is what you don’t know you don’t know.

    The problem Lamar faces is not what he doesn’t know about negotiating a contract, it’s what he doesn’t know he doesn’t know about negotiating a contract. And it’s biting him hard. It’s sad. He could have so much more money and opportunity right now if he hadn’t invested himself emotionally in his decision to not have an agent.

  128. What should be the Ravens end game?
    Hope Lamar sits out all 2023, get the first overall pick and take Caleb Williams.
    Cheap rookie contract in 2024 with tons of salary cap space, instead of a 10 game qb soaking up 25% of the salary cap. This isn’t genius level stuff.

  129. $32 million grossly understates Lamar’s value? This guy is such a shill for literally anything.

  130. rthom127x says: Hope Lamar sits out all 2023, get the first overall pick and take Caleb Williams

    ********************************************************************************

    Would be nice but even w/out LJ, Ravens will finish middle of the pack. The defense & running game with Huntley won’t be much different than the same with an injured LJ sitting out 3-4 games

  131. Every starting NFL QB is overpaid and Lamar Jackson knows it. July 17 is a lifetime in negotiations. He’s already turned down 44.33/year over three years so they are closer to his demands than we know. You can get the franchise tag deal for one season at 32 million out of your minds now.
    I suspect the lull in news is due to the draft and waiting for the Rodgers – Jets deal to inform the market. The owners in Washington, Atlanta and Nashville can keep telling us how happy they are with their incumbent QBs all they want. No one believes it. Rodgers is projected to play for 50 million this year. Suddenly Jackson’s price doesn’t seem so unreasonable. He’ll get paid because Baltimore isn’t going anywhere with their other QBs or a recycled veteran.

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