Patriots select punter Bryce Baringer after taking kicker Chad Ryland earlier

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No team drafts specialists more often than the Patriots.

New England became the first team since the 2000 Raiders to select both a kicker and a punter in the same draft. In 2000, the Raiders selected kicker Sebastian Janikowski in the first round and punter Shane Lechler in the fifth round, and both played 18 seasons.

On Saturday, the Patriots selected Maryland kicker Chad Ryland in the fourth round and Michigan State punter Bryce Baringer in the sixth round.

New England now has drafted six specialists since 2010.

Baringer, the No. 192 overall pick, is the first punter off the board in 2023.

He averaged 46.0 yards on 161 career punts, including a 49.0 average in 2022.

62 responses to “Patriots select punter Bryce Baringer after taking kicker Chad Ryland earlier

  1. The 9ers have learned from Bill, and and took the top kicker, Jake Moody, aka “Money.” But Ryland, having kicked in cold weather at E Mich, has potential. They got the top punter, which is good as well. Punting was an abject disaster last season, and being unable to try 50+ yard FG’s (which Ryland is somewhat successful with, but not “money”) hurt them in games as well, forcing them to make different offensive and defensive decisions based on their inability to quite get into FG range at critical moments. Hopefully they work out well and they become Adam Vinatieri/Ryan Allen 2.0’s.

  2. Great news BB:
    took50years2021isablip, nhpats2011, Tom Brady , ztoa, TheFinalSay
    know better than you. Lets hire them next time

  3. Great news BB:
    took50years2021isablip, nhpats2011, Tom Brady , ztoa, TheFinalSay
    know better than you. Lets hire them next time

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Let me show you the right way of thinking:

    Pats became a dynasty because they had BOTH top defense and top offense.
    — It is not hard to build top defense if a coach spends as much as Belichick did. (a PAPER TIGER defense that couldn’t be relied on in playoff)
    — It is not hard to build top offense with a really good QB if a coach invests a lot on offense, like Sean Payton did.

    What is hard is to have BOTH top defense and top offense, and Belichick didn’t have to worry about offense when he had Tom Brady.

    Because Belichick’s defense couldn’t be relied on to win divisional title, because Belichick’s defense couldn’t be trusted in 4th quarters when game was on the line, because Belichick’s defense couldn’t be relied on to win two playoff games, therefore he was a product of Tom Brady.

  4. You laugh…..and then Baringer pins you deep, the defense forces a punt, Mac does enough to get into FG range ala TB12 used to do (he’s not TB12, don’t get it twisted), and Ryland nails the game winner. Then the tears begin. The old Pats didn’t blow teams out. They played the games out, put themselves in position to win, and then executed. The execution has suffered as of late, but having competent players helps. Folk has been nails, but not being able to kick 50+ yard FG’s in crunch time can hurt them a bit. We’ll see if Ryland can muster Folk like consistency while adding the long range game to our kicking game. Baringer doesn’t have to be great to be better than what they had last season for sure. Up yours Bailey.

  5. Tom Brady has ZERO winning seasons without elite coaching. Fact.

    Yeah he ain’t no GOAT don’t bring that garbage here.

  6. then Baringer pins you deep, the defense forces a punt, Mac does enough to get into FG range ala TB12 used to do (he’s not TB12, don’t get it twisted),

    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    Pats defense was worse than Packers defense on total yards allowed.

  7. I’m not really sure why taking a couple of the best K and P later in the draft is LOL worthy. Every teams needs them. Might as well try to get good ones. I guessing the idiots LOLing (you know who you are) just don’t get it – but then again, the rest of us already knew that.

  8. It’s like Belichick is intentionally trying to throw the draft, he wants to stick it to Kraft before he shows him the door at the end of the upcoming season.

  9. ztoa says:
    April 29, 2023 at 5:37 pm
    then Baringer pins you deep, the defense forces a punt, Mac does enough to get into FG range ala TB12 used to do (he’s not TB12, don’t get it twisted),

    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    Pats defense was worse than Packers defense on total yards allowed.

    **********************

    NE is very situational. Bend don’t break, but they can make plays when needed, as long as they are not on the field constantly, like they were last season. I expect that will be different this year with O’Brian as OC. It will be more like 2021.

  10. I’m not really sure why taking a couple of the best K and P later in the draft is LOL worthy. Every teams needs them. Might as well try to get good ones. I guessing the idiots LOLing (you know who you are) just don’t get it.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    You don’t know who among available kickers will be good.
    You don’t know who among available receivers will be good.

    Which one will you try your luck? LOL.

  11. So no Safety, no Tackle, and no TE or MLB from this draft. Good thing they are top 2-3 in cap space next season, though they do need to make decisions on re-signing a lot of players. There should be some money for free agents, if available. It’s crazy how some teams just seem to zero in on players the Pats want and swoop down in front of them. Them’s the breaks though. I just thought they would be trading up a bit more, and when they did, it would be for a regular contributor vs a placekicker.

  12. ……
    silentphart says:
    April 29, 2023 at 5:00 pm
    BB is looking to draft a water-boy next
    ……
    Answer your phone!!!

  13. NE is very situational. Bend don’t break.

    +++++++++++++++++++

    In 2019 season, Pats defense allowed only 61 points in first 8 games, but allowed 164 points in the remaining 8 games.

    There is no “situation”, Belichick completely depended on offense to score 20+ against decent offense. When opponents didn’t do what he expected (the situation you talk about), like 2004 SB against Panthers, 2007 AFCCG against Peyton, 2018 SB against Eagles, he had no solution.

    Remember how his defense played against Bears? That is what you mean “situation.”

  14. One more pick….Noah Gindorff, TE ND State? The Seahawks just too Kenny McIntosh, RB Georgia….ugh. Good balanced runner. Ibrahim from Minnesota is still available though. But McIntosh is bigger. Bummer. Maybe Iowa State Safety Anthony Johns.

    Ibrahim….or Gindorff.

  15. The Seahawks also picked up Charbonnet from UCLA, the other RB I wanted. Darn you Pete Carroll! Darn you to heck!!!

  16. Jaylen Moreno-Cropper from Fresno State wouldn’t be a bad pick here as well. He has been catching passes from Jake Haener, who has similar arm talent to Mac.

  17. So we get another CB, Isaiah Bolden, coached by…..Deion Sanders at Jackson State after transferring from Florida. 6’2″ 200. Very good returner, but I can’t find much on him playing CB. Bill sure is loading up the back end of the defense and the special teams (his specialties). Hmmm.

  18. Whatever happened to that racist punter or kicker they drafted that was supposed to be the next best thing?

  19. It’s amazing that people are critical of these picks. Some of the biggest problems NE had last year were an inability to kick 50+ yard FGs, inability to kick touchbacks on kickoffs, and poor punting. They may not be glamour positions, but having or not having top players at those positions can change a game around.

  20. ztoa says:
    April 29, 2023 at 5:45 pm
    I’m not really sure why taking a couple of the best K and P later in the draft is LOL worthy. Every teams needs them. Might as well try to get good ones. I guessing the idiots LOLing (you know who you are) just don’t get it.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    You don’t know who among available kickers will be good.
    You don’t know who among available receivers will be good.

    Which one will you try your luck? LOL.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    That’s why I said “try” to get a good one.
    As for “LOLing idiots”, it seems you’re onboard with that.

  21. You don’t know who among available kickers will be good.
    You don’t know who among available receivers will be good.

    Which one will you try your luck? LOL.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    That’s why I said “try” to get a good one.
    As for “LOLing idiots”, it seems you’re onboard with that.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Ask yourself why those “easy” throws and “easy” routes have been gone since Brady left.

    You think “try” would work with ANY other QB? why didn’t other coaches “try”? Belichick could “try” because Brady had the skills to turn those cheap slot receivers into top play makers.

    Who are on board of “idiots”?

  22. There are two trolls on this thread that comment about Belichick on nearly every Patriots thread. It’s pathological.

    Try meditation to clear your minds of the fixation. You’ll thank me.

    You do know Bill doesn’t read your comments. Heck, even I skip over them and I suspect most Patriots fans do as well.

  23. I suspect most Patriots fans do as well.

    ++++++++++++++++++

    then how did they get dislikes?

    Belichick’s defense couldn’t even win divisional title,
    Belichick’s defense couldn’t be trusted in 4th quarters when game was on the line,
    Belichick’s defense couldn’t be relied on to win two playoff games.

    Can’t face the facts? Come one, Man up!!!

  24. Who are on board of “idiots”?
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    You are!!!!! You’re the chairman of that board.
    I was talking about P’s and K’s not QB’s. You friggin dummy.

  25. You are!!!!! You’re the chairman of that board.
    I was talking about P’s and K’s not QB’s. You friggin dummy.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Hey, dummy, you don’t know even know what you were talking about.

    “LOL” is on picking P and K INSTEAD OF WR, not about what a good kicker can do.

  26. Here is what you wrote : “I’m not really sure why taking a couple of the best K and P later in the draft is LOL worthy.”

    Did you know what LOL is about? did anyone question about if K and P were good?

  27. ztoa says:
    April 29, 2023 at 9:17 pm
    Here is what you wrote : “I’m not really sure why taking a couple of the best K and P later in the draft is LOL worthy.”

    Did you know what LOL is about? did anyone question about if K and P were good?
    ——-
    How come cheatin Tom Brady can’t win without elite coaching? Guess he’s simply not that good and never was, I’m so happy the Patriots sent him packing. Should have done it a lot sooner.

  28. GMG,

    Dude, give it up, you will never be able to get under my skins because I know what made Brady special and how he turned Patriots around in 2001, it has nothing to do with Belichick.

    Ravens coach Billick once laughed at the idea that Belichick knew how great Tom Brady would be by pointing out “If he had known, he wouldn’t have waited till 6 round.”

    Those people didn’t stand up to the tidal wave of media controlled by those “system” experts because they couldn’t point out what Brady did special.

    Belichick is a moron on offense and his defense was a PAPER TIGER, face it.

  29. Brady the offensive genius looked like Andy Dalton in 2019 and 2022 without Gronk. So much for Brady turning cheap receivers into playmakers.

  30. There is a lot of #2 stirring during and after the draft but the simple fact is that the Patriots got better on defense (at cover corner, cover linebacker, setting the edge, rushing the passer and against passing offenses and mobile qbs); on offense to a lesser degree (at OL depth and slot receiver); on special teams (punting, field goals, kicking off, punt and kick returning, and gunner). They are bigger, quicker and more athletic with more depth.

    All of those should improve field position, increase time of possession and reduce their own turnovers.

    They will need the veteran OT they brought in to perform as well as Trent Brown, O’Brien to reinvigorate the offense, Klemm to develop the OL, Mac to get back on track, the running game to excel, 3rd down offense to improve and to eliminate to a reasonable degree penalties and foolish turnovers.

    Let’s play the games.

  31. It was in fact a very good draft by the Patriots. They hit all over on areas of need (which did include both of those kickers). Got a stud prospect DB that never should have been available, luck not skill that he was there at 14, but then to get a fourth and still get him was a cool move, sticking it to the jets was just a bonus. And then they did get some really good looking defensive players they needed before the kickers, and then also a nice assortment of OL and WR. Drafting is always a crapshoot so any of these guys could be busts or future HOF or anything in between. They were good guys to bet on, but from there its only time that can tell.

  32. ztoa says:
    April 29, 2023 at 10:56 pm
    GMG,

    Dude, give it up, you will never be able to get under my skins because I know what made Brady special and how he turned Patriots around in 2001, it has nothing to do with Belichick.

    Ravens coach Billick once laughed at the idea that Belichick knew how great Tom Brady would be by pointing out “If he had known, he wouldn’t have waited till 6 round.”

    Those people didn’t stand up to the tidal wave of media controlled by those “system” experts because they couldn’t point out what Brady did special.

    Belichick is a moron on offense and his defense was a PAPER TIGER, face it.

    —————————-

    At least he sticks to the same screen name through everything. There is that.

  33. You only have to read 1 wlee post. After that it’s the same repetive copy and paste nonsense over and over.

  34. Belichick’s defense couldn’t even win divisional title,
    Belichick’s defense couldn’t be trusted in 4th quarters when game was on the line,
    Belichick’s defense couldn’t be relied on to win two playoff games.

    Anything that makes Belichick look bad is nonsense for his fans.

  35. ztoa says:
    April 29, 2023 at 10:56 pm
    GMG,

    Dude, give it up, you will never be able to get under my skins because I know what made Brady special and how he turned Patriots around in 2001
    ——

    I know what made Brady! Elite coaching – and don’t deny it he proved last year he’s NOTHING without it… and of course a little “help” from the deflator. 😉 😉 😉

  36. ztoa says:
    April 30, 2023 at 5:35 pm
    Belichick’s defense couldn’t even win divisional title,
    Belichick’s defense couldn’t be trusted in 4th quarters when game was on the line,
    Belichick’s defense couldn’t be relied on to win two playoff games.

    Anything that makes Belichick look bad is nonsense for his fans.

    ——
    Brady couldn’t even finish .500 without elite coaching. Game over. The end. I win.

  37. Football says:
    April 30, 2023 at 4:43 pm
    It was in fact a very good draft by the Patriots. They hit all over on areas of need (which did include both of those kickers). Got a stud prospect DB that never should have been available, luck not skill that he was there at 14, but then to get a fourth and still get him was a cool move, sticking it to the jets was just a bonus. And then they did get some really good looking defensive players they needed before the kickers, and then also a nice assortment of OL and WR. Drafting is always a crapshoot so any of these guys could be busts or future HOF or anything in between. They were good guys to bet on, but from there it’s only time that can tell.
    —-
    I think it was bookended great. The rest of the draft… meh. Developmental prospects. Can’t fault them though most teams pick up that kind of talent late.

    I’d love to know what elite offensive talent the critics thought the Patriots should have drafted instead. Thats because there wasn’t any outside the top 10. This was not a strong class. And no the Patriots defense is NOT “good” enough. Unless you think beating up on weak offenses and getting clowned by good offenses isn’t a problem. I disagree. There will be a lot more of the latter on the schedule this year. The defense has improved with this draft and it needed to.

  38. justmymeaninglessopinion says:
    April 29, 2023 at 8:11 pm
    bwaaaaahaaaa..is this what chess looks like. lmao

    ———————-

    Yes it is. People dont understand the moves at first, generally they dont get the point until later on.

  39. They had to get a kicker and their top choice got snatched from under them. There was good reason to believe their second top guy was not going to make it to them. If they lost him the third choice wasn’t that good, at that point they would have had to lust leave the hole in the roster and get a journeyman somewhere begore the season. This sounds like all the complaining as last time they drafted a kicker in the fourth, back in 2006.

  40. Brady couldn’t even finish .500 without elite coaching.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++

    If Belichick had known more about offense than Patricia did, he would be the one who called plays.

    As he didn’t, it implied that he was a moron on offense, given that he had Brady for 20 years.

    Hence he was not an elite coach. THIS IS NOT AN OPINION, that is LOGIC conclusion based on the fact, not something with ambiguity anyone can twist to fit your agenda.

  41. I don’t know how many more years you Belichick fans need to admit that Belichick’s defense was a PAPER TIGER, and can’t complete anything without offense.

    Even 1990s in Giants, they were 13-3 because Giants offense scored 20+ in 12 of 16 games and Giants won all of them, and in playoff, they had chance because Parcel’s offense played 39 minutes in NFCCG and 40+ minutes in SB.

  42. Belichick didn’t need to draft Tommy. Pennington and Bulger would have had the same outcome. Not even a tiny bit of doubt about that, weaklings like Brady who throw 2 yard passes are a dime a dozen

  43. It is science.

    When an offense moves little by little, it will take LOT MORE GOOD PLAYS to score than by throwing deep. Any hiccup will kill a drive, even a 5 yard penalty on 2nd down or 3rd down may kill a drive.

    Statistically, it is almost impossible for a QB to score enough (like 24 points) by small plays. That is why opponent defense allows a QB to throw 2 yards on first down, allows a QB to throw 5 yards on 3rd and 7. (Keep ball in front of you) The goal of defense is NOT keeping opponent to catch the balls, but to stop opponents to get first down.

    For an offense to succeed with small plays, it completely depends on QB’s ability of anticipating and throwing a little bit faster that gives his receivers spaces for YAC.

    A design like throwing 5 yards on 3rd and 7 won’t work if the QB can’t pull trigger a little quicker. On the other hand, if a QB can pull the trigger a little faster, his coaches will design plays that will use his ability. Therefore, there was never erhardt-perkins system, a name created by those systematically born system experts who watched football to get high.

    So unless Pats get a serious deep threat, there is no chance for offense, except one year wonder when opponents don’t have videos on QB, like RG III. Didn’t you see that even Matthew Stanford fell off cliff after 1 season in Rams?

  44. Football says:
    April 30, 2023 at 7:26 pm
    They had to get a kicker and their top choice got snatched from under them. There was good reason to believe their second top guy was not going to make it to them. If they lost him the third choice wasn’t that good, at that point they would have had to lust leave the hole in the roster and get a journeyman somewhere begore the season. This sounds like all the complaining as last time they drafted a kicker in the fourth, back in 2006
    ———-
    Even Kiper said Gostkowski was a reach in the 4th round. Lol

  45. It is science, not argument like “I can’t see earth is round”.

    When an offense moves little by little, it will take LOT MORE GOOD PLAYS to score than by throwing deep. Any hiccup will kill a drive, even a 5 yard penalty on 2nd down or 3rd down may kill a drive.

    Statistically, it is almost impossible for a QB to score enough (like 24 points) by small plays. That is why opponent defense allows a QB to throw 2 yards on first down, allows a QB to throw 5 yards on 3rd and 7. (Keep ball in front of you) The goal of defense is NOT keeping opponent to catch the balls, but to stop opponents to get first down.

    For an offense to succeed with small plays, it completely depends on QB’s ability of anticipating and throwing a little bit faster that gives his receivers spaces for YAC. A design like throwing 5 yards on 3rd and 7 won’t work if the QB can’t pull trigger a little quicker. On the other hand, if a QB can pull the trigger a little faster, his coaches will design plays that will use his ability. Therefore, there was never Erhardt-Perkins system, a name created by those system experts.

    So unless Pats get a serious deep threat, there is no chance for offense, except one year wonder when opponents don’t have videos on QB, like RG III. Didn’t you see that even Matthew Stanford fell off cliff after 1 season in Rams?

    Stop dreaming, Pats fans.

  46. Belichick just set the Patriots back several years once again. Mac Jones will not improve with a defensive-minded coach who is terrible at drafting. He went defense the first three rounds for a defense that’s already great. Way to get yourself fired. Brady made his entire head coaching career. He’s an overglorifed defensive coordinator.

  47. He went defense the first three rounds for a defense that’s already great
    ——
    The defense is absolutely not “already great”.

  48. Maybe if Tom Brady had the talent to be good without elite coaching and cheating he would have elevated his teammates last season to be a winner instead of riding on their coat tails like he’s done for his entire career.

    Since he is not, that was the result. Zero winning seasons without elite coaching. ZERO.

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