Ongoing Sunday Ticket antitrust litigation could reveal plenty of NFL secrets

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The NFL strongly prefers to resolve all claims against it secretly, so that the league can keep its secrets. Regarding the Sunday Ticket package, some fairly intriguing secrets could eventually be revealed.

During draft week (that’s my excuse for not getting to this sooner), Daniel Kaplan of TheAthletic.com posted an item regarding some of the information that has come to light during the ongoing Sunday Ticket antitrust litigation. Because the case is proceeding in open court and not through the league’s internal arbitration processes, things the league would rather be quiet are getting out.

First, a ruling from the presiding judge regarding a squabble about documents produced by the NFL disclosed the full list of options for Sunday Ticket, post-DirecTV. Beyond YouTube, the candidates were Apple, Amazon, Roku, and ESPN. The league also considered making the package directly available to consumers.

Second, further disclosures could show that the talks with Apple failed because Apple wanted to make the package significantly cheaper for consumers. The plaintiffs in the Sunday Ticket antitrust litigation essentially are arguing that the league has withheld documents that would show Apple wasn’t selected due to its plan to offer the package for less than consumers have been paying.

It has been suggested that Sunday Ticket can’t be offered at a significantly lower price, due to the NFL’s contracts with CBS and Fox. Beyond the price of the full package, Apple might have wanted to allow consumers to buy Sunday Ticket for all games of only one team, or one week or game at a time.

As it stands, Sunday Ticket continues to be an all-or-nothing proposition. One large, flat fee for everything. If you only want Packers games, you have to take the rest. If you only want certain weeks, you have to take them all.

Regardless of the outcome of the pending case, a potential P.R. disaster is looming for the league, if/when fans realize the lengths to which the “football is family” crowd has gone to make it unreasonably more expensive for families across the country to watch only the out-of-market games they want to see.

If, for example, the NFL could have gotten the same money from Apple for Sunday Ticket and consumers could have gotten the games for less, that’s about as bad of a look as the NFL could have to some of its most rabid and loyal customers.

35 responses to “Ongoing Sunday Ticket antitrust litigation could reveal plenty of NFL secrets

  1. So shady. I really hope Goodell gets exposed and doesn’t get renewed. Nobody likes him, outside of some owners.

  2. So you are trying to tell me the NFL Brass are a bunch of crooks? No way?!

  3. The single team option is much ado about nothing.

    I subscribe to MLB.tv and the NBA League pass. On MLB.tv, the difference between a single team and the whole league is $20 a year. For the NBA, it’s a dollar a month. BFD. Why would anybody think the NFL would adopt a different pricing model?

  4. Also as an attorney, perhaps Mr Florio can address why this is even something that can be litigated.

    Why does the NFL have to justify in a court of law why it chose to do business with one company to the other companies that it chose not to do business with? Seems very odd and certainly not the norm for businesses in this country.

  5. You mean a for-profit entity did everything it could to maximize its profits even if it wasn’t the best thing for its customers? I am absolutely shocked….

    I’m always amazed by the carping about ST. $22 a week to watch every game….or about what wings and beer go for nowadays

  6. Let’s dispense with the suspense: zero NFL secrets will be revealed.

  7. “The NFL strongly prefers to resolve all claims against it secretly, so that the league can keep its secrets.”

    Or in other words, the NFL is like every single person in America and don’t want their dirty laundry aired in public. Why is this a revelation?

  8. As long as I can continue to stream my eagles for free by a little hocus pocus via the internet, im good.

  9. Not for nothing…. But how does anyone expect the teams to pay a $250M payroll to players only and NOT expect them to make as much as they can after expenses? Not defending the league – lord knows I’ve bought more $18 beers than I’d like to admit… but I’d imagine they gotta do what they can to cover the massive overhead of the teams. 🤷🏽‍♂️

  10. Why should we expect anything from the NFL that would actually provide ‘perceived’ value to the consumer as opposed what is the status quo ?

  11. Goodell is one of the most vile and despicable human beings ever walk the earth.

    The product has progressively gotten worse year after year. And no Goodell Famboys need to chime in and tell everyone that Goodell invented fantasy football, the internet and gambling either.

    This level of disrespecting the customerr atrocious.

  12. A provider of a product attempting to get the highest possible price for said product? How is that a surprise when the same practice is undertaken by every world-wide business?

  13. I do agree with the Grifter, the Patriot product has gotten progressively worse since TB12 left. Oh, well.

  14. All of nothing is not more expensive than individual selection. Either way, they desire the same revenue so there’d be little to no advantage for lowering the price on custom packages. It’s like everyone that didn’t want to pay $100 for 400 channels now pay $120 for Netflix, Amazon, Hulu, etc etc

  15. All you children ripping the commish realize that the money goes to developing the league and product?
    Can’t believe the immaturity…

  16. I don’t know much about this. But I do know I’m sick and tired of lawsuits.

  17. Does anyone still think that with TV contracts and the international expansion that the NFL is not all about profit? I am a big fan of the product and don’t miss a game, but I don’t think Goodell and the NFL are worried about anything except revenue .That’s kinda the trade off?

  18. America’s corporate culture has gone from “The Customer is always Right” attitude to “The Customer is always a sap” attitude.

    Corporate leaders better start turning the tide on their own, or us saps might start to turn it for them. History dictates the second option never ends well for the leaders

  19. The NFL does so well monetarily you would think they would simply market (sell) their own cable box so fans can hook it up and the NFL would charge for whatever game(s) the fan would like to see.

  20. Yeah, the people who created the $1,000 phone is looking out for the little guy. I’m surprised you actually believe this.

  21. forgotmypassword says:
    May 6, 2023 at 5:21 pm
    America’s corporate culture has gone from “The Customer is always Right” attitude to “The Customer is always a sap” attitude.

    Corporate leaders better start turning the tide on their own, or us saps might start to turn it for them. History dictates the second option never ends well for the leaders

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    Exactly. What’s even more strange is how many people post here who approve of Goodell’s behaviors or any fascist oligarch behaviors.

    Creepy.

  22. johnwick says:
    May 6, 2023 at 5:45 pm
    The NFL does so well monetarily you would think they would simply market (sell) their own cable box so fans can hook it up and the NFL would charge for whatever game(s) the fan would like to see.
    _________
    This is a good idea.

  23. Honestly some of the above is nonsense.

    If Apple had the most profitable bid (and certainly they are profitable enough to not worry about if Sunday Ticket makes them money or not) the NFL would have accepted it, plain and simple. When has the NFL EVER turned down top dollar? The NFL put a bid with specific conditions (standard business practice everywhere for the unaware), Apple apparently came back with a counter offer the NFL didn’t like. Bye-bye no Anti-trust issue here.

    Secondly the NFL has ALWAYS marketed it’s product as all or nothing. That is how they justify equal revenue sharing of all TV moneys. So even though Dallas\Giants is going to get a bigger TV rating than say Detroit\Panthers everybody gets the same revenue from the game. While I’d love individual team memberships the second that starts JJ is going to say ‘Wait, Dallas has the most subscribers I want ALL that money.’ And frankly the other 30 billionaire owners aren’t going to agree to that so why (from an NFL perspective) crack the lid on that Pandora’s box?

  24. Diehard NFL fan. Washington fan living in Texas. At least FIVE games televised every week..,,.plus Redzone!!
    Sorry. The Sunday Ticket never made economic sense and they blew their chance to make it cheaper as well as modified.

  25. Whew! When I lived in Virginia, the only way I got to watch The New Orleans Saints was by buying Directv’s satellite and paying an exorbitant fee to get every game (even though I didn’t want every game). Thank goodness I got old enough to retire and move back to New Orleans, where because I live in a local area, an antenna works just fine. I no longer have to use my retirement fixed income money to pay those pirates. I cut all cable and sattelites and still get almost 60 channels, which is enough for me. That doesn’t even include streaming. Don’t tell the NFL though, they will probably figure out a way to cut my signal and force me to spend my social security on their product.

  26. I’ve been a ST subscriber every year since it’s existence. This year however I’m strongly considering not getting it. YouTube’s price is ridiculous and you will only be able to stream two games at once. I have 7 TVs. This was never a problem with DirecTv. I said this months ago and I’ll say it again, the league screwed this up and they are gonna realize that quick and in a harsh way. Fans who were actually purchasing ST year after year are not happy with YouTube.

  27. Oh this could be a larger problem than what most realize. If you follow the political landscape of our country you can see that masses are choosing to boycott (ex Bud light). Not apples to apples, but $ is getting tighter for so many and when you can show that the NFL is increasing profits at the expense of those who provide its profits can be extremely problematic!! Will be an interesting situation to follow! Mike forget the draft and keep us posted!!!!

  28. NFL fans blame Goodell for everything. He deserves it. But the reality is he’s an employee. These owners are the REAL corporate culprits. These oligarchs have gotten away with fleecing the fans for far too long. The nfl supports the xfl only so it doesn’t appear as a monopoly. But in reality it’s going to become the nfls minor league for players,refs and rule and policy experiments. Congress needs to prevent the nfl of setting up these kangaroo arbitration courts to hide and control thier narratives. If fans don’t ever take a stance there will never be any change.

  29. I became a customer of DirecTV back in 1995 so I would have the ST and I was always honest with them when I said if they ever lost the ST, they would lose me as a customer. Done deal, I no longer subscribe to DirecTV.

    I will not be getting the ST through Youtube as it requires me to become a subscriber there to get a better price. They have also jacked the price up. Sorry, my answer is no. I’m retired and living on a fixed pension, every penny counts now and I’m tired of having my pockets picked every time I turn around.

    At least with DirecTV I was able to work out a deal with them every August just before the season started. There is no such deal with youtube.

    Well done NFL, you lost at least one long time customer because of your corporate greed.

  30. Please do a real investigation of the Patriots for their past cheating…

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