Many teams that opposed Thursday flexing got two short-week games

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The technical term would be, possibly, “f–k around and find out.”

Commissioner Roger Goodell wanted to incorporate late-season flexing into the Thursday night package. He fell two votes short, for now. As a more-than-acceptable consolation prize, Goodell got the ability to assign teams to a maximum of two short-week, Sunday-to-Thursday games.

This season, seven teams will play on twice Thursday after playing on the prior Sunday: Steelers, Bears, Saints, Commanders, 49ers, Lions, and Packers. Of those seven teams, PFT has learned that at least six of them opposed late-season Thursday flexing.

Per various league sources, the Steelers, Bears, Saints, Commanders, Lions, and Packers opposed flexing on Thursday nights.

Only eight teams were against it. The Jets, who opposed the proposal, got a short-week Black Friday game. (The Jets are nevertheless very happy with that assignment._

We’ve been unable to determine whether the 49ers voted against late-season Thursday flexing. The fact that the Giants also opposed the change would seem to suggest that the 49ers didn’t, since that would be nine total opponents, not eight. (The Panthers and Broncos reportedly abstained.)

The league denies that this was a case of retribution for opposing Thursday flexing.

“There was absolutely no consideration or discussion regarding a team’s position on this issue when developing the schedule,” Chief NFL Spokesman Brian McCarthy told PFT by email. “You’ve probably looked at the breakdown as well. Four of the teams are playing on Thanksgiving and also on Thursday night, which reflects their national appeal. Also, keep in mind that the vote to permit teams to play multiple short weeks passed.”

That vote passed by margin of 29-3. The Bears opposed it. The two other teams to vote no did not receive multiple short-week games.

The four teams that play both on Thanksgiving and on a short-week Thursday are the Lions, Packers, Commanders, and 49ers. (We’ll defer to others as to whether and to what extent each of those four teams currently have significant “national appeal.”)

With 22 teams voting in favor of late-season Thursday flexing, why not give the extra short weeks to the teams that had no apparent problem with having multiple short-week games? As national appeal goes, the Chiefs, Cowboys, Bills, Bengals, Eagles have cachet up the yang yang. Regardless, the fact that so many of the teams that said “no” to late-season Thursday flexing got multiple short-week games is one hell of a coincidence, at best.

As to the Giants, some would wonder why they didn’t get a pair of short-week games, too. The simple explanation could be that, because co-owner John Mara was so vocal in his opposition to late-season flexing (he calls it “abusive” to fans), it would have been too obvious if the Giants hadn’t gotten the short end of the short-week stick.

The purpose of this item isn’t to get to the bottom of the rabbit hole. We learned about the issue because one or more teams that receive multiple short-week assignments suspect a connection.

That alone makes it worthy of a mention, and of giving the NFL a chance to address the concern that is percolating among those who opted to block the plan to boost the Thursday night package.

55 responses to “Many teams that opposed Thursday flexing got two short-week games

  1. They still have 4 days. Plenty of time to get ready considering during a 3-hour game, the time the ball is in play equals about eleven minutes. NBA plays on 2 days rest and their games are constant.

  2. Sucks to voluntarily be a part of something so petty, but at least everyone involved (players, employees, owners) get pain handsomely for it.

    But being an NFL fan is like going to your friend’s house who has the perfect mancave with a nice pool table, some pinball machine and the best TV….but he’s kind of a jack ass.
    We love the games, but we become more and more aware of how “the sausage is made”.

  3. The owners should think long and hard about this level of pettiness before they renew (or don’t renew) Goodell’s next contract.

  4. The Steelers have been screwed over by the league more than any other team, and it isn’t even close

  5. 3 of those 4 teams have pretty longstanding national appeal: Packers, 49ers and WFT (a flagship franchise with a national fanbase and luster being restored with Dan Snyder being ousted – fans will come back in droves). The 4th – the Lions – are a young team on the rise that should generate excitement and may be able to build more national appeal if they can keep the momentum going.

  6. That’ll teach ’em to try to defend the interests of players and go up against large the corrupt political interests that is the NFL!

  7. Maybe Al Davis was right all those years. The NFL is run by petty vindictive men.

  8. Roger screwing teams?!?!

    Says the Browns fan who watched the suspension of D Watson for eleven games so the Browns would still get burnt on the salary cap last season.

  9. So basically, the Bears are going to get hosed by the refs even worse this season than usual. Got it.

  10. austinspencer says: “What happened to “player safety?””
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    Statistically, Thursday night games have a LOWER injury rate than both the Sunday or Monday games…

  11. And people wonder why the Pats were framed? It’s stuff like this.

  12. Is James Harrison still playing for the Steelers because I know old Roger loved screwing him over.

  13. Statistically, Thursday night games have a LOWER injury rate than both the Sunday or Monday games…

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    Statisically, players who haven’t rested their injuries enough are less likely to even play in the game.

  14. Ashley says:
    May 13, 2023 at 2:27 pm
    The owners should think long and hard about this level of pettiness before they renew (or don’t renew) Goodell’s next contract.

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    Goodell just does the will of the owners. People are petty. Billionaires on power trips even more so.

  15. NFL Teams might want to consider load management during these short weeks. Sit some of the key players the week before if you are playing an inferior opponent.

  16. The Steelers have been screwed over by the league more than any other team, and it isn’t even close

    No other team deserves it more!

  17. They could have just assigned Blakeman & Torber to officiate all their games

  18. Until the stands are emptied they won’t ever care folks. I’ve actually started to like watching baseball this year. Been to a few games, love the rules changes they made. Prices I can afford and the seats are good. Not saying I’m abandoning the NFL but if I can’t see on my TV it won’t be watched. The players are way over paid and the owners also. We the fans make the NFL.

  19. The Seahawks also have two Thursday night games but they’re both in a row, vs 49ers on Thanksgiving (11/23) and at Dallas (11/30) after the Rams on 11/19

  20. Rotate the Thanksgiving games yearly and s___can all the other Thursday games. Despise seeing my team play on Thursday…..

  21. I would like to know the owners who pushed for this behind the scenes. I doubt Goodell is stupid or petty enough to risk angering a bunch of the guys that are responsible for re-upping his contract. I have a few guesses myself.

  22. @daddachef…. I’m in the same boat with baseball. The rule changes are great, it’s way more affordable and guess what NFL kids can go to these games! It’s not a bunch but of drunk jerks mouthing off. I hardly ever see kids at football games. If kids don’t go the nfl is going to miss a generation.
    Remember when Facebook was cool?! Now it’s just a place for “old people” to complain. Nfl will be a memory in a decade or so. Remember folks, baseball was king until about 30 years ago. Football was not the spectacle it is a now 30 years ago. Everyone gets there turn sports fans

  23. smartestguyintheroom says:
    May 13, 2023 at 2:37 pm
    3 of those 4 teams have pretty longstanding national appeal: Packers, 49ers and WFT (a flagship franchise with a national fanbase and luster being restored with Dan Snyder being ousted – fans will come back in droves).
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    You should be forced to change your username after making a comment as asinine as this!

  24. wttoolman says:
    May 13, 2023 at 5:48 pm

    The Cowboys play 3 games in 11 days. Let that sink in.//////////////////////Because Jerrah loves the spotlight !

  25. So both New York Teams opposed the proposal, but neither got stuck with two Thursday night games? Wow. Must be some kind of cohencidence.

  26. plus3 says:
    May 13, 2023 at 3:27 pm
    Statistically, Thursday night games have a LOWER injury rate than both the Sunday or Monday games…

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    Statisically, players who haven’t rested their injuries enough are less likely to even play in the game.

    702Rate This

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    Tell that to Tua, after his “Back Injury”

  27. “NBA plays on 2 days rest and their games are constant.’

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    and rest days, no defense, and a sport so physical they play in shorts. Must be rough.

  28. Nothing like a little retaliation to ensure even more owners don’t vote against the commish’s plans in the future.

  29. haswussup says:
    May 13, 2023 at 6:31 pm

    So both New York Teams opposed the proposal, but neither got stuck with two Thursday night games? Wow. Must be some kind of cohencidence.////////////The Networks’ HQs are located in NYC , the League HQ is located in NYC > They’re all Giants and Jets fans PERIOD , FULL STOP !

  30. The Falcon, Raiders, Buccaneers, Chargers, Patriots, Eagles, Rams, Dolphins, and Vikings comprise about 30% of the NFL, but none of them got stuck with two Thursday night games. I wonder why the names of one of these lucky franchises did not come up in what I’m sure was a random impartial draw. They must have had their lucky red string charm bracelets on or something.

  31. We have enough tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theorists these days. Y’all Flex-Anon.

  32. I love the regular Seinfeld drops on these articles. I got cachet up the ying yang baby!

  33. Thaswussup, have you seen the eagles schedule? I’m not complaining, a first place schedule is a pretty good indication of success but with the teams on their schedule, it would be kinda messed up to make it any harder than it already is

  34. Everyone complains about the short week, what about the mini bye to follow?? Since each team playing Thursday is coming off a short week, there is no advantage for either, but both will have at least some advantage the next game. I wish the Vikings had two Thursday games!!! Geez, people – this isn’t such a screw job.

  35. Giants may not have two Thursday games, but that Week 2/3 schedule means they most likely can’t go home. They play the Cards in Glendale in the late afternoon window on Sunday, then play the 49ers in Santa Clara that following Thursday night. The smart thing to do is find a Tier-1 college facility on the west coast where they can practice in between those two games, because flying to NJ Sunday night, then back out to California a couple of days later is just nuts.

  36. One of the ironies of life is that those responsible for leading towards failure never spot the signs until too late. Expanding the season, expanding the playoffs, expanding midweek games are all obviously detrimental to what makes the NFL season uniquely special. Over-saturating the market has doomed baseball’s viewing figures. The model Goodell is chasing is the soccer Champions League but even that dominant force is now fracturing. The path the league has set serves gains for the short term but makes long term decline highly likely.

  37. Greed and stupidity will begin to chip away at this leagues teflon image. It’s coming. Kudos to the teams that oppose the flexing. It can’t always be about the most money. People buy planes tickets, hotel, car rentals and to have a game flexed to Thursday from Sunday would cause those people to lose money. Hey, it doesn’t matter if the paying customer gets screwed, we don’t want the owners to lose anything.

  38. Everyone is happy. They’re all getting rich from TV revenue. They might pretend like they’re complaining, but they’re smiling from ear to ear on payday. Dan Snyder paid $800 million for his team. DeBartolo paid $13 million for the 49ers. Art Rooney paid $2,500 dollars for the Steelers. None of these guys are asking about the NFL’s return policy.

  39. Some of these comments are more interesting and entertaining than the article. What’s really funny is how it’s apparent that most commenters hate statistics. 🤣

  40. they opposed the rule change BECAUSE they were the most likely teams to be flexed! Teams with national appeal that also stink.. excluding 49ers

  41. >They still have 4 days. Plenty of time to get ready considering during a 3-hour game, the time the ball is in play equals about eleven minutes. NBA plays on 2 days rest and their games are constant.

    This is less about preparing and more about recuperating from the physical abuse players’ bodies take from playing football.

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