Joe Barry: Packers have to find consistency on defense

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The biggest storyline of the Packers offseason has been the transition at quarterback from Aaron Rodgers to Jordan Love, but offense isn’t going to be the entire story of the 2023 season in Green Bay.

Defense will play a major role in the fate of the Packers this season and the unit’s work last year led to in-season chatter about changing defensive coordinators. Joe Barry remained in the role through the season and the Packers opted not to make a change this offseason after seeing improved results in the later weeks of the year.

On Tuesday, Barry identified the area he believes the Packers need to address in order to have a more successful season in 2023.

“You mentioned [Rodgers] and his honors. It really doesn’t matter on our side of the ball, the defensive side of the ball. That’s the thing that we’ve got to do week in and week out,” Barry said, via Jason Wilde of Madison.com. “We’ve got to show up and play our best version of football, our best version of defense. We can’t be up one week and down the next. We’ve got to find that consistency and show up every single week. The last five or six weeks of the season, we found that. We don’t have time to waste 10 weeks. We’re in May. That’s what OTAs are for. That’s what the offseason is for. That’s what training camp is for. But we’ve got to be much more consistent than we were a year ago, week in and week out.”

The effort to put forth a more consistent effort will include first-round defensive end Lukas Van Ness and four other draft picks. Preparing them for the fall will be a key part of the rest of the offseason work in Green Bay.

43 responses to “Joe Barry: Packers have to find consistency on defense

  1. One of the best Brett Favre soundbites;

    “Take two weeks off, then quit”

    Awful in every way. This man should not have a job in the NFL, at any level.

  2. Can Joe Barry fix that soft, undisciplined, cheap d on his 3rd attempt?

  3. cheeseisfattening says:
    May 17, 2023 at 10:23 am
    Can Joe Barry fix that soft, undisciplined, cheap d on his 3rd attempt?

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    As a Viking fan, you need to find a dictionary and look up the word “irony”.

  4. It’ll be fun to watch whether the Packers or Vikings will come out on bottom of the NFC North

  5. They looked pretty good while humiliating the Vikings 41-17. That was funny.

  6. The Eagles absolutely humiliated the Packers by running for over 350 yards against them. In a SINGLE game. Barry could have been fired after that debacle. That D needs to come out of the gate strong next year or Barry must go. No more excuses.

  7. How about Consistently Getting Rid of the ZONE DEFENSE. These corners were all drafted because of their outstanding man defense play and attributes. Play 7 yards off the line Consistently and you get a lot of completed passes crossing over the middle or wide out screens. I want to see our corners up on the line and in the faces of WR’s. Pop em’ before they can release. It screws up the route timing.

  8. In Minnesota, we’re hoping Donatell 2.0 can fix our historically porous defense.

  9. He can hire Donatell as an assistant
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    Been there. Done that. (4th-and-26)

    [Barry is MUCH worse]

  10. The defense suffered significantly when De’Vondre Campbell was out for several weeks. They were much better when he was on the field.

  11. Every year the Packers draft for defense in the early rounds and sign defensive free agents but luckily for the rest of the NFC North they repeatedly hire poor defensive coordinators to coach these high priced players. It’s sad when these recent DC’s make Dom Capers look good

  12. Can Joe Barry fix that soft, undisciplined, cheap d on his 3rd attempt?
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    Can’t tell if you’re going for an ironic laugh or if you’re actually serious?

  13. Tony Awesome says:
    May 17, 2023 at 10:45 am
    How about Consistently Getting Rid of the ZONE DEFENSE. These corners were all drafted because of their outstanding man defense play and attributes. Play 7 yards off the line Consistently and you get a lot of completed passes crossing over the middle or wide out screens. I want to see our corners up on the line and in the faces of WR’s. Pop em’ before they can release. It screws up the route timing.
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    I guess you also want to see the defense consistently beaten over the top. Jaire and Stokes were drafted because they are great CBs, not solely because of their man skills. Rasul was not drafted by the Packers.

  14. How many first-round picks are on that defense now? Eight? If they’re not a top-ten defense this year, someone needs to go – Barry or Gutekust, or maybe both.

  15. They will be consistent (ly) on the field because love is gonna stick em with lots of time on the field. Not gonna be pretty for the pack this year.

  16. Consistency is a direct result of poor coaching, usually it results in the, in this case, defense not being prepared and that coach’s utilization of putting players in positions to succeed instead of having to do something they simply don’t have the the ability to do. In simple turns Berry is a one-trick pony, but oddly he thinks he is better then everyone else so he is looking to put the blame on the players. But Green Bay does need to keep a fall guy on the staff to protect the GM and HC.

  17. Joe Barry: “It really doesn’t matter on our side of the ball, the defensive side of the ball. “.
    Here’s one of the problems for Joe Barry. Of course it matters what the offense does. If the offense is 3 and out over and over or if the offense is on the field for 40 minutes a game, it makes a difference in the way the D has to play.

  18. Unfortunately, Barry is not the guy for the job.

    Watched him as a Redskins fan, and he was awful. He led that wonderful 0-16 Detroit Lions defense as well.

  19. I wonder if the Packers can trade Joe Barry for a clown in the circus and a bag of peanuts.

  20. With Rodgers superior play allowing Gutey to expend all the high end draft capital on defense, the Pack D should be consistently top 10. The definition of insanity is to repeat past behavior with the expectation of different results — yet the Pack sticks with this D coordinator, adds yet even more defensive draft capital and expects different results. And yeah, the Vikes defense has sucked the last couple years, but the difference is that team is at least sane enough to address the primary cause.

  21. harryhodag says:
    May 17, 2023 at 11:54 am
    I wonder if the Packers can trade Joe Barry for a clown in the circus and a bag of peanuts.
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    That should be option 2, maybe without the clown. Option one should be getting 2 firsts in a trade with the Vikings. Those will be 2 high picks, and we know how them Vikings love them some Packers cast-offs.

  22. In Barry We Trust. Every NFL team has been scored against. A losing or winning season involves the entire team. Offence, defence, special teams, coaching staff, etc. So it’s not all on Barry.

  23. The definition of insanity is to repeat past behavior with the expectation of different results
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    The formula was changed.

    They spent big FA $$ on Campbell, Amos, teh Smith Bros and Douglas. Thompson wasn’t using free agency after his initial rebuild. Peppers was the only guy he signed, and that was beacuse he knew the coaching staff, and gave Thompson a discount.

    Pettine shouldn’t have been scapegoated the way he was. That unit was trending in the right direction.

    LaFleur brought in his buddy, and if he can’t perform, it should cost then their jobs.

  24. Find it in the draft. Draft better defensive players and suddenly everything is working fine.

  25. Can Joe Barry fix that soft, undisciplined, cheap d on his 3rd attempt?
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    Cheap?

    Every position group has a player in top 10 contract value

    Clark, Campbell, Alexander, Amos (was, anyway..)

    Gary is about to break the bank.

    8 1st rounders

    I doubt you could find a team in teh League right now that has invested more heavily in their defense.

  26. Jim Leonhard, please! I just don’t get what LaFleur sees in Barry. Could lead to his downfall as head coach. Unless Barry is going to be the scapegoat firing for a sideways 2023 season–planning in advance. It does happen.

  27. purpleguy says:

    And yeah, the Vikes defense has sucked the last couple years, but the difference is that team is at least sane enough to address the primary cause.
    +++++
    Viking fan wants to celebrate Kwesi hiring Flores, but pretend like Kwesi didn’t hire Donatell.

    Kwesi traded 3 draft picks to obtain Nick Mullens and Jalen Reagor when he should have been rebuilding. And drafted noone who contributed except Ed Ingram – who gave up 11 sacks. Kwesi IS the primary cause. You’ll see.

  28. Here’s a falacy ” If you fast your fast and if your not your not going to become fast no matter how hard you try” Other wise someone would have beaten Usaine Bolt”.
    Saying you’ve got to play better defense is in the same league, either you have the players who can play or you dont and the Packers dont. They got has beens, cast offs and guys who arent very bright playing D, so they arent going to show up and be good because you want it. Barry is the worst d coach in football on top of it.

  29. Capers, Pettine and now Barry all had one thing in common, a defense loaded with guys you never heard of and schemes created to make up for the lack of coverage, speed, and pass rushing skills.
    The Pack lost those home field play off games having a weak sister pass d that never in 9 years did anything. but give up big yardage and big plays to top QB’s..

  30. As much as I’d like to blame Joe Barry who seems, at best, an average but rarely innovative coach/coordinator, this is on Matt LeFleur. He had to have seen all he needed to see last year to know Barry wasn’t the answer. Also, there were many very good candidates available,….and yet, he stuck with his guy. Playing now with 8 first round picks, if Barry doesn’t do better with this talent, that stink gonna be all over Coach Frenchie.

  31. Capers, Pettine and now Barry all had one thing in common, a defense loaded with guys you never heard of and schemes created to make up for the lack of coverage, speed, and pass rushing skills.
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    Capers was given significant input on his players. They wasted tons of capitol on guys that couldn’t play in the 3-4.

    In fairness, he did catch some really bad breaks. Nick Collins neck injury. Woodson was pushed out too soon, especially in relation to Collins. Raji retired very early. Matthews broke down. Sam Shield concussions. That Super Bowl D crumbled in a hurry.

    I think Pettine could have kept this D competitive, but we’ll never know.

    Barry should be gone already.

  32. Joe Barry’s resume wasn’t exactly glowing when the Packers hired him as DC. There had to have been better options out there. He now has 8 former 1st round picks on that unit. No more excuses!

  33. The only consistency which GB will find with Barry as DC is inconsistency.

  34. Barry should absolutely have been canned last season.

    Lost count of how many times I observed GB defensive personnel, pre-snap: gesticulating around, swiveling their melons back & forth wide-eyed, waving arms & jumping up & down….. CLEARLY clueless about the play call, or a specific match-up, or assignments in general.

    With those personnel & all that talent, shoulda been a Top 10 defense for sure, possibly Top 5….. but the coaching was putrid.

    The stats and results don’t lie.

    REPLACE JOE BARRY IMMEDIATELY, or suffer the consequences.

  35. As many 3 and outs as that new offense is gonna give you, the Packers D will have a ton of opportunities to showcase their skill level.

  36. blizzardwarning says:
    May 17, 2023 at 1:42 pm
    Jim Leonhard, please! I just don’t get what LaFleur sees in Barry. Could lead to his downfall as head coach. Unless Barry is going to be the scapegoat firing for a sideways 2023 season–planning in advance. It does happen

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    Leonhard turned down the pack (no surprise) that’s why they panicked and hired Barry. And he back for another season. Next year pack use their number 1 pick for yet another defensive player.

  37. Fubared says:
    May 17, 2023 at 2:26 pm
    Capers, Pettine and now Barry all had one thing in common, a defense loaded with guys you never heard of and schemes created to make up for the lack of coverage, speed, and pass rushing skills.
    The Pack lost those home field play off games having a weak sister pass d that never in 9 years did anything. but give up big yardage and big plays to top QB’s

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    Capers nor petitine never had this much draft capital. Those last few years for capers were really bare with talent. I have no doubt both would be doing a better job than Barry. But then again so could the pan handler at the street corner.

  38. “If Barry wants to leave we’ll take him. Our soft, 32nd ranked D could use as many ex-Packers we can find.”
    -Viking Defense

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