After a score, why not just put the ball at the 25 and be done with it?

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The May 2023 ownership meetings primarily will be known as the time the NFL gave a middle finger to in-stadium fans. They also will be known as the time the NFL delivered perhaps the final death blow to the kickoff.

It didn’t happen all at once. It came by a thousand cuts. Or at least a few.

The NFL decided more than a decade ago that the kickoff return is the most dangerous play in sports. So the NFL embarked, in many cases, not on making it safer but by eliminating the number of times it happens.

At one point, a comprehensive revision to pre-kick player placement was used in an effort to salvage the play. Efforts also have been made to make the onside kick both safer and, for the team that uses it, more likely to be successful.

The latest move, allowing the receiving team that fields the ball short of the goal line to execute a fair catch and take possession at the 25, becomes the next step in the process of reducing the number of total kickoff returns.

So when will kickoff returns happen? The fair catch isn’t mandatory; teams could still decide to return a ball kicked into the field of play. But why do it, when you can start the drive 100 out of 100 times at the 25?

Yes, there’s always a chance for a muff. But there’s also a chance that a muff or a fumble will happen if the player intends to field the back and return it.

Some think there will be more squib kicks or other creative approaches aimed at putting the ball between the goal line and the 25 and making a tackle before the player gets to the 25. That entails plenty of risk. A squib kick could go out of bounds. An unexpected bounce could throw off the timing of the coverage, opening an unexpected lane for the returner.

Chances are the kickoff will become even more perfunctory and pointless. Teams will be starting from the 25. So why not just put it on the 25 and be done with it?

That likely will happen, with the NFL landing that plane along with the adoption of the fourth and 20 alternative to the onside kick. Once there’s an acceptable replacement for the ability of the team that is trailing to retain possession, the kickoff will go the way of the dodo bird.

And there’s one last reason to ditch the kickoff. At some point, the return happens so infrequently that it becomes an enhanced safety risk for players who don’t have the experience with full-contact returns. Also, as teams opt for a fair catch inside the 25, kick-coverage units that might have the ability to make a tackle inside the 25 will lose some of that edge, since they won’t be using it as often as they once did.

Bottom line? This collection of partial measures is indirectly eliminating the kickoff return from the game. At some point, it makes more sense to just get rid of it.

90 responses to “After a score, why not just put the ball at the 25 and be done with it?

  1. This is where we’re heading anyways. The NFL may as well rip off the bandaid and have it as an informal ceremony so the fans in the stadium have something to look at while they broadcast more commercials to the people on TV.

  2. I agree with Florio. Howver, we ALL know that the NFLPA (aka the ‘union’)will oppose this for sure because it would cost jobs of special teamers. Which means less dues revenue for the NFLPA, which ultimately means less vacation funds for NFLPA attorneys. In the name of PLAYER SAFETY, let’s get rid of the KO and KOR teams, which decreases the overhead for NFL teams.

  3. If you get rid of kickoffs, you have to get rid of running out the clock (clock would have to not be a running clock). Otherwise, how would trailing team get the ball back?

  4. don’t the spring leagues have something for k-offs and onsides that the NFL could try?

  5. The Steelers have consistently had the best and most dynamic kick returners in the history of the game. It’s really annoying to keep seeing all of these rule changes that make it harder for us. It’s only natural to wonder about the motivations behind so many rule changes that have targeted us, especially the rules that affect the defensive side of the ball.

  6. for player safety, the NFL has approved the use of Madden for its actual games, this way, no one gets hurt. The NFL still expects fans to show up to games, watch the players play Madden from the field, and spend 100s of millions on their product.

    Yes this is a ridiculous scenario but sooner or later the NFL will just be flag football or video simulation of it.

  7. why not just end the game if a team scores with less than 1 min and no time outs left.. you are proposing to remove the ability for a comeback attempt to steal a possession.

  8. A kick-off return for a TD will always be one of the most exciting plays in football, that’s why you should keep it.

  9. Nobody will care but this is what drives older fans like me away. Never completely away but I’m not really into it like I used to be. Too many rule changes that favor the offense, too much copying what they do in college, overtime for example. No Amazon, no streaming of playoff games. And yes, get off my lawn while you’re at it!

  10. If they eliminate the kickoff then you cant have the two commercial breaks before and after the kickoff.

  11. Just line them up at the line of scrimmage and kickoff. No one is ever pushing to get rid of the punt. Eliminate the high speed collisions and preserve the kickoff.

  12. dryzzt23 says:
    May 24, 2023 at 11:20 am
    I agree with Florio. Howver, we ALL know that the NFLPA (aka the ‘union’)will oppose this for sure because it would cost jobs of special teamers. Which means less dues revenue for the NFLPA, which ultimately means less vacation funds for NFLPA attorneys. In the name of PLAYER SAFETY, let’s get rid of the KO and KOR teams, which decreases the overhead for NFL teams.
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    That only way that would happen is if they reduce the 53 man roster.

    If anything getting rid of the kick off will add depth to the other positions. Any Kick-off only positions could be replaced with a O-Line man, or another QB.

  13. Why not just find something better to do on Sundays (and Monday nights and Thursday nights and sometimes on Saturdays)?

  14. Fair catches will be rare..pride and the desire to make a special play will always rule. Players have made their name in the return game

  15. How suspicious is it that BB drafts All Pro rookie, Marcus Jones, and now this rule immediately follows?

    The rule doesn’t even make sense either. A guy has more chance of a concussion fielding a punt in different parts of the field?

    How abusive can Goodell get here? They won’t fix the fields which cause far more injuries, yet they want to try to sell us on the idea that a punt fielded closer to the goal line somehow drives more injuries.

    Hogwash.

  16. The Steelers have consistently had the best and most dynamic kick returners in the history of the game. It’s really annoying to keep seeing all of these rule changes that make it harder for us. It’s only natural to wonder about the motivations behind so many rule changes that have targeted us, especially the rules that affect the defensive side of the ball.
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  17. nhpats2011 says:
    Why not just find something better to do on Sundays (and Monday nights and Thursday nights and sometimes on Saturdays)?
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    I’m getting closer to doing just that. The Bengals/Chiefs playoff game last season definitely was the start of the tipping point for me.

  18. What if the kick return and kickoff teams were wrapped in bubble wrap? This would reduce injuries and be funny at the same time.

  19. It will go away for good when it’s so boring that they can sell TV commercial time in it’s place.

  20. Why not just move the ball to the redzone every change of possession to cut down on even more tackling and collisions? It’s beyond stupid. Why penalize strategy and kicking? It’s football, not surrender ball. It’s ridiculous.

  21. NO !
    First because a good kickoff return is one of the most exciting plays in football
    Second, If you take kickoffs out completely, then we’ll have to have a “Make it Take it” play instead of onside kicks.
    That would suck because it would add a gimmick which would punish teams who outplayed their opponents for the first 58 minutes or so. Onside kicks are good because they make it possible but not likely for a trailing team to succeed in getting another possession.

    Safer kickoffs are the way to go. I’m sure there are people who have studied the experiments in the spring leagues. What have we learned?

  22. I still see multiple helmet-to-helmet hits every week on defenseless receivers.

    Rarely are players ejected. Rarely are players suspended. No cumulative foul system. No REAL punishment for these vile hits.

    So just spare me with all this. Cries for player safety are all for show.

  23. For onside kicks, make the QB throw a football threw a tire hole 40 yards down field. This is getting ridiculous

  24. I’m fine with it. The speed and size of the players has made kickoffs a tragedy waiting to happen.

  25. If the teams are rid of the KO & KOR special teamers, then simply sill those roster spots with whatever the team may want on the offensive &/or defensive side of the ball as the league is marching towards the 18 game season…

  26. So once you get rid of the kickoff, is punting next?? Seems a logical solution.

    No one seems to be talking about the XFL approach to kickoffs. That seemed workable. Just have the coverage teams closer together so the impact isn’t full throttle.

    Also – seems like a bigger issue about concussions is not related to return teams but repeated helmet to helmet contact of linemen. No one really talking about that one though.

  27. Change the kicks to punts and eliminate the 10 yd running start or just punt from a normal punt formation. Similar to what is done after a safety.

  28. So they are saying that punts are safe, but kick offs are not. OK. line up for a punt at the 50 to start the game, but make the ball free to both sides. Muff it or do not catch it, then the kicking team can recover and advance it.

  29. If you eliminate the kickoff, then Buffalo goes to the Super Bowl instead of KC.

  30. I agree with Florio’s bottom line on Kick-offs – its kind of a joke now. And with seemingly 90% of Punt returns becoming fair catches, its gonna be hard to make a roster for Special Teams ability.

  31. Next: Just take the defense off the field. Prettiest play to score is ranked out of 10 by judges.

    LOL

  32. I’m not sure the new rule will eliminate returns. Teams still return kicks from the end zone. If the kick only goes to the five yard line, why not take a chance?

  33. Let the kicker kick it, but back it up to the 20 and kick from there. The defense lines up but no one other than the kicker can move until the ball stops moving. If it goes into the end zone, its a touchback. If it goes out of bounds, place it at the 40. Otherwise, the receiving team gets the ball where it stops moving.

  34. Yet they adopt flex scheduling for Thursday nights meaning teams can’t plan to heal up and are run right back out there 3 days later. Screws the fans too who might have bought tickets, airfare, hotel, taken time off work all ahead of time. All that money goes down the toilet when that Thursday game is flexed back to Sunday. In short, NFL doesn’t care about the players or the fans. They care about avoiding CTE lawsuits in 20 years. That’s it.

  35. I live in Canada and watch both NFL and some CFL . In the Canadian game after a field goal has been made the team receiving the ball can elect to start their possession on the 35 yard line instead of a kickoff. If the NFL eliminated kickoff after a field goal this would cut kickoffs by over 50 %

  36. Nothing kills a last second comeback like eliminating the chance for a big return and not to have to go 75 yards with next to no time left on the clock.

  37. Other commenters have done a great job here pointing out the hypocrisy and suggesting better ideas that are safe and still provide excitement.

    If the league keeps following its path of making the game more boring while extracting maximum money, the eventual destination is “why even play the game?”, accompanied closely by “why bother to watch?”

    They may think they’ll never get to that point, but they will. Mightier things than the NFL have fallen into ruin.

  38. Keep tweaking the rules and they may have to change the name of the game . It is FOOTBALL!

  39. I can’t be the only Steelers fan on here wondering what this dude is smoking.

    “The Steelers have consistently had the best and most dynamic kick returners in the history of the game”

  40. I know, I’m old and crotchety. It burns me that these guys want to make $50M+/year with no risk. You want flag football, great. Expect your salaries to be slashed by 90% or more. There are men and women who are getting shot at and/or have explosive devices going off around them that earn less in their entire service than some of these guys earn in one game where they’re on the field for less than 1/2 the game.

  41. In the meantime the draft media needs to quit acting like a prospect’s additional value as a kickoff returner is actually a thing.

  42. Because it’s simple and obvious, and the NFL can’t do simple and obvious

  43. To answer the headline question…Because kickoffs and punt returns bring a special action to the game that cannot be seen anywhere else, in any other sport. This “idea” would forever change the makeup of team rosters. Gone will be the gunners that may not be quite ready for prime time, but are exceedingly valuable in the field position game. Gone will be the players that excel in speed and change of direction because there will be no need for returners. Can you imagine an NFL history that doesn’t include the next Devin Hester? That would be a crime. It’s football, and football has something special. It’s called Special Teams and all 4 phases are exceedingly important and quite exciting. Don’t take that away from fans.

  44. Lol at people comparing nfl to military. Give it a rest. Military is where you go when you don’t have these skills. They take just about anybody. The nfl does not. We’ve made our choice.

  45. Why not just flip a coin to decide who wins the game then nobody gets hurt and we can concentrate all our attention on saying the player are underpaid.

  46. Let’s call soccer, football, like it is in most of the rest of world, and give gridiron football a new name.
    #NoFunLeague

  47. NFL owners and management…swallow your pride and implement the XFL’s kickoff…problem solved!

  48. Dumb suggestion. There are still touchdowns and excellent field position happening on kickoffs.

  49. The XFL actually got kickoffs right. Of course, there’s zero chance the NFL will adopt anything a “rival” league tries. Instead, they will remove one of the most potentially exciting plays in the game.

  50. Bills would have lost to NE in the final game without those two KO return TDs.

  51. All in the name of player’s safety. Um, how about just taking away Thursday night football to let the players heal properly. That would probably make a dent on injuries better than killing the kick off.

  52. Why would a kick-off returner ever call for a fair catch? I doubt we will even see one fair catch between the goal line and 25 yardline this coming season. I would say Vegas has the O/U at 4.5.

  53. I don’t know why people are getting so upset over a kick off. It’s such a violent play where the juice is not worth the squeeze. Find another way to give a team the chance to win back the ball other than the onside kick. Start at the 25 otherwise.

  54. Reset the rules back to how they were 30-40 years ago and put ” high likelihood of concussions, serious injury,etc.” on the header of every single contract.

  55. uMMM… Yeah, let’s just do away with the main reason the sport in which we hold the ball with our hands is called Football. Nonsensical changes. Given this new rule, I’ll expect kickers to get better at pinning them between the 25 and the goal line. Getting rid of kicks is just too stupid to contemplate. I hate these new rule changes.

  56. A lot of people are in their feelings about a rule that likely will not have much impact on the game. How many people are calling fair catch on a kickoff inside the 25?

  57. They are eliminating kickoffs because of injuries, yet they allowed the “Weekend at Bernie’s” play? Keep eliminating parts of the game… see if the actual fans stick around (not the bettors). Imagine no Devin Hester, that’s reality now. Here, I was thinking the NFL should punish touchbacks, because every kicker can reach the stands nowadays—I was trying to force the kickoff play to occur.

    This is stupid. All game there is going to be this repeating tradition of a non-play kickoff.

    Goodell does whatever he wants. It’s his league. The owners answer to him. It’s his sport. Everything changes with the snap of his fingers.

  58. NFL truly is the No Fun League. I’d rather watch the CFL, XFL or the USFL than this junk.

  59. Won’t happen – will lose that set of commercials
    that immediately follow the kick
    that immediately follow the score.

  60. Here’s an idea. Once the Kicker kicks off he’s immediately ineligible to be a part of the play. He has to run off the field after he kicks off. That would make returning Kickoffs more enticing and give the receiving team an advantage. Lord knows the NFL has taken every single advantage away from the returners.

  61. Keep this up NFL and you will become baseball , they are headed for a big fall because they are so greedy and show time and time again they could care aless about the fans .

  62. I wonder what the true impact of this fair catch rule will be? Even with the current rule, I see a lot of kickoffs returned from the endzone despite the smart play being to let it bounce and take it on the 25. For those who claim that it is the most exciting play in football, it might be for well under 1% of the returns, otherwise it is a lot of effort to just get the ball close to the 25 and hope that you don’t get a holding call.

  63. After a score, why not just hand the ball to the ref and be done with it?

  64. Special teams have always been the bastard step-children – most teams don’t have a coach who has ever kicked or punted at any level.

  65. Remember that Nyheim Hines KO return to start the first home game after Damar Hamlin’s collapse. That was magical (and then he did it later that game for extra magic). It’s too big a play in the fabric of the game to get rid of entirely. Devin Hester is a hall of famer based on his KO and Punt returns.

  66. Just shorten the field from 100 yards to 40 yards and give the team the ball at midfield ( the 20 yard line ).

  67. footballer23 said “The Steelers have consistently had the best and most dynamic kick returners in the history of the game”. Sorry the Bears own this category hands down.

  68. It’s a compelling sport precisely because it involves risk and danger. That’s why we’re here. Feels weird explaining that to a football league, but then again they also didn’t know footballs get softer if you take them outside on a cold day so it’s possible none of them ever played the sport in the first place.

  69. how about put it on the 5.
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    can’t just always try to make the game easier

  70. Here is a completely new idea….. HOW ABOUT A COMPLETE STOP ON ALL THE DUMB RULE CHANGES! The NFL became the most popular sport in the country’s history because of what is was and the rules it historically utilized. The constant push to change the game is going to eventually destroy what made it great. Doesn’t take Einstein to figure this out.

  71. The NFL is a scandals corrupt business. They take after Washington.

  72. Keep this up NFL and you will become baseball , they are headed for a big fall because they are so greedy and show time and time again they could care aless about the fans
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    The pitch clock is the best thing to happen to that sport in a LONG time.

    .. the Mariners game was 2 hours flat yesterday.

  73. footballer23 says:
    May 24, 2023 at 11:32 am
    The Steelers have consistently had the best and most dynamic kick returners in the history of the game. It’s really annoying to keep seeing all of these rule changes that make it harder for us. It’s only natural to wonder about the motivations behind so many rule changes that have targeted us, especially the rules that affect the defensive side of the ball.

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    Seriously!!!!???? THe NFL is deeeffiinniitteely making these rules just to hurt the Steelers. Sure, keep thinking that. It is funny to see a Steelers homer try to find a reason for them losing without looking at the obvious- they’re not that good! Btw with all those great kickoff returners, how many kickoff returns did the Steelers have last year? Thats what I thought. Just face it, the Steelers are mediocre in a very good AFC and the NFL doesn’t have to target them with rules. They only rig games that good teams play in

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